akpwow Posted February 4 Posted February 4 2 hours ago, JemappelleRedacted said: This is Violate's "Strip Victims" setting, you can turn it off and it'll use AAF's strip settings (and should allow manual adjustments). Might reset this myself actually, sick of getting redressed lol. Thx mate, its working 1
MSM_Alice Posted February 4 Author Posted February 4 (edited) Patch to address the newly added player audio lines sometimes being cut short. The player voice lines in the " one liner" system were left using "gametime" based timers, which are less precise/consistent. Since the player wasn't really using the " one liner" system that Qoq uses with a significant frequency before, this hadn't been very visible . I simply had forgotten to switch them over to real-time timers as I did for QoH. They are switched over now, all should be good. See download below Edited February 4 by MSM_Alice
MSM_Alice Posted February 4 Author Posted February 4 (edited) Sorting out a few loose ends made the progression of this new "ticks" system to also take into account rest/sleep and arousal if over 2 thirds. Download link here: https://www.loverslab.com/topic/245511-msma-sexfight-like-succubus-drain-and-bimbofication/page/114/#findComment-7233060 Edited February 5 by MSM_Alice
Mimirue17 Posted February 4 Posted February 4 found if you enter a shower (cwss one at least) you immediately get the size vs athletic comments still, the after sex ones are very rare now as long as you equip your gear if you were not redressed after scene automatically.
Mimirue17 Posted February 4 Posted February 4 also found the additional comments - they were from some of the new DR animations from their patreon version.
MSM_Alice Posted February 4 Author Posted February 4 (edited) 20 hours ago, Mimirue17 said: found if you enter a shower (cwss one at least) you immediately get the size vs athletic comments still, the after sex ones are very rare now as long as you equip your gear if you were not redressed after scene automatically. Try this one. I have added a condition that should prevent the weight effects from starting as long as the player is using ANY furniture. Download link here: https://www.loverslab.com/topic/245511-msma-sexfight-like-succubus-drain-and-bimbofication/page/114/#findComment-7233060 Edited February 5 by MSM_Alice
Mimirue17 Posted February 4 Posted February 4 11 minutes ago, MSM_Alice said: Try this one. I have added a condition that should prevent the weight effects from starting as long as the player is using ANY furniture. MSMA_Act1_[In_Development]_1_0421.zip 244.82 MB · 0 downloads This has indeed worked! Tried a few items and none of them had the weight effects messages pop up at start or exit of the furniture. Thanks! 1
MSM_Alice Posted February 4 Author Posted February 4 15 minutes ago, Mimirue17 said: This has indeed worked! Tried a few items and none of them had the weight effects messages pop up at start or exit of the furniture. Thanks! But they still work normally when out of the furniture, correct ?:D
JemappelleRedacted Posted February 4 Posted February 4 I'm just imagining the next line being incoherent screaming after " I NEEED COOOOCK!!!" gets repeatedly interrupted by gunfire, a dead raider, and a little "there is no one to surrender to" message 😅 Clarification: is loss of control supposed to be immune to Synthetic Cum craving soothing? Once I activated the system (upgrade rather than new game, so B7 and pretty much ALL the cravings unquenchable) I've been auto surrendering to everything even after immediately downing a SynthCum bucket. Chocolate Starfish has been misspelled "My cholcoate starfish is lonely" message, at B7 this makes sense though
MSM_Alice Posted February 5 Author Posted February 5 (edited) 10 hours ago, JemappelleRedacted said: I'm just imagining the next line being incoherent screaming after " I NEEED COOOOCK!!!" gets repeatedly interrupted by gunfire, a dead raider, and a little "there is no one to surrender to" message 😅 Clarification: is loss of control supposed to be immune to Synthetic Cum craving soothing? Once I activated the system (upgrade rather than new game, so B7 and pretty much ALL the cravings unquenchable) I've been auto surrendering to everything even after immediately downing a SynthCum bucket. Chocolate Starfish has been misspelled "My cholcoate starfish is lonely" message, at B7 this makes sense though No, it is not supposed to do auto surrender based on that. Try this one, please let me know if any better. On a separate note: I also added an alt start dialogue for the non-vanilla player story background ( but a new game is needed for experiencing that). Download link here: https://www.loverslab.com/topic/245511-msma-sexfight-like-succubus-drain-and-bimbofication/page/114/#findComment-7233060 Edited February 5 by MSM_Alice
jedidm Posted February 5 Posted February 5 This Mod is outstanding! I have reached Bimbo level 3 so far, love the Music, it is a nice touch. I am also testing the act1 latest release on old gen .163 and so far so good. I am personally horrible at paying attention to the notifications while playing, so a hard reminder when a bimbo level is reached or being reached for those wanting to not go above bimbo4 and or a reliable way to downgrade. Marina's & some of the other AI voicing could use some polish, I find her dialogue a little bit grating. I am in love with the sex fight mechanic!! the wasteland has needed something like this for a while and I am stoked to see the rest of this story unfold. keep up the AMAZING work. & a Shout out to ALL the other Modders keeping the AAF running. I cannot play Fallout without it. 1
MSM_Alice Posted February 5 Author Posted February 5 (edited) 32 minutes ago, jedidm said: This Mod is outstanding! I have reached Bimbo level 3 so far, love the Music, it is a nice touch. I am also testing the act1 latest release on old gen .163 and so far so good. I am personally horrible at paying attention to the notifications while playing, so a hard reminder when a bimbo level is reached or being reached for those wanting to not go above bimbo4 and or a reliable way to downgrade. Marina's & some of the other AI voicing could use some polish, I find her dialogue a little bit grating. I am in love with the sex fight mechanic!! the wasteland has needed something like this for a while and I am stoked to see the rest of this story unfold. keep up the AMAZING work. & a Shout out to ALL the other Modders keeping the AAF running. I cannot play Fallout without it. Thank you so much! I hope you have the music pack zip installed, otherwise you're only geting some of the music, but not all. Yes, some NPCs voices were generated with XavSyth before I discovered FallTalk. Some do use newer engines that are more expressive, but Marina and the bimbo limbo stooges, Wedge and Sturges, are still on their XAvSynth-generated voices. Eventually, I will migrate all of them to FallTalk. If you want to listen to the differences specifically for Marina, here is where you can : - if you start a new game and select the non-vanilla story background, and you get to Marina and go through her first conversation, there is that line where she says she that to keep you safe, she will "reprogram the Mr Handy nearby" (Codsworth) to think you are its master. That one line that says that is done with Falltalk, while the rest are XAVSythm, which I agree can sound a bit robotic at times. That one line, I think, sounds definitely better than the rest. There is no path to bimbo delevel mechanic, and at this time, I am not planning one. The bimbo level-up, being a serious thing and being permanent, is part of the story premise. Loading an earlier save (and not activating the saveflow system that monitors cross-save activity) is the only way to de-level. Edited February 5 by MSM_Alice 1
chyoashaun Posted February 5 Posted February 5 Downloaded and tried your new update. Very cool mod. Did it on an existing very early game (level 15ish, just finished the sanctuary chain to build radio tower and got to drumlin diner). I am still a level 0 bimbo, and has been over 1 day of game time. It did the version update after game load at drumlin diner, and walked south to the house, and raiders were present. I have to setting for surrender to 4, and do not have any cravings, and the last aaf scene was with wedge about 5- 10 minutes prior to the save / install. But as soon as the raiders saw me and started coming towards me, my character immediately auto surrendered, said they needed to have sex, and into went into progressing into an aaf scene. Not sure if this is intended- I'd like to try the 5 surrender setting, but without actually having any cravings and being at level 0 bimbo, that seems pretty extreme to surrender already. Also note, my SA arousal was at 0 at the time, but sex level did get to 88 after last run in with wedge. I did try reloading, and dropping it to both 1 and 2 for the surrender setting, and the character did not autosurrender and I made it through combat.
LatencyRemix Posted February 5 Posted February 5 (edited) I just started a new game to try this out with cbbe/twb and update the 420 version. Is the popup surrender thingy new in this version? Or maybe in survival mode things are just harder but kinda annoying every enemy after one shot is asking if you want to surrender or fight. Also I did a funny XD 5X slider value for morphs *Edit* I read up a bit, trying the 1-430 to see if this stops it for doing fight/surrender. *EDIT* 1-430 fixed the surrender to everyone all the time. Edited February 5 by LatencyRemix
brostermac Posted February 5 Posted February 5 How do you disable pop-up surrender while shooting, it's annoying and even it already set to zero it still tehre
JemappelleRedacted Posted February 5 Posted February 5 2 hours ago, LatencyRemix said: Is the popup surrender thingy new in this version? No, auto-surrender has been around for a while, the craving induced loss of control is new and uses the existing system. It might creep back after enough ticks, even with cravings satisfied on 1.430 32 minutes ago, brostermac said: How do you disable pop-up surrender while shooting, it's annoying and even it already set to zero it still tehre MCM>MSMA General Settings, top of the list is Combat Submit, Surrender and Infiltration. Auto Surrender is the first option, set to 0. If it's the craving system loss of control, same MCM page between "Sex and Bimbo Report settings" and "Equipment and Hologram settings" (so about 70-80% of the way to the bottom) is Bimbo Craving settings: at the bottom of that section, Unattended cravings push player into promiscuity set to 0 should turn off the new system. 5 hours ago, MSM_Alice said: Try this one, please let me know if any better Didn't seem to change anything, got the cravings and ran into a dog pack>auto surrender, reloaded>spawned and drank a SynthCum>dog pack>auto surrender. Got a log if you want it.
MSM_Alice Posted February 5 Author Posted February 5 (edited) @LatencyRemix Thank you for reading the updates and using the latest version It was indeed a temporary bug there. @chyoashaun @brostermac Let me know if 1. You are using 1.0430 or later 2. Is it a new game on this version or not ( an upgrade) 3. You have these two settings in the MCM set correctly for what you want to achieve The main setting that decides the surrender behavior on combat start is this one The secondary setting that can override that setting above it, forcing a surrender on top of it and skip the popup, based on whether or not you have ignored some cravings and they got too intense, is this one: Remember that if you use the optional MSMA HUD as a safety feature for it, on each game load, until the HUd initalises to 100%, some popups (including the surrender popup) might be suppressed. Edited February 5 by MSM_Alice
MSM_Alice Posted February 5 Author Posted February 5 6 minutes ago, JemappelleRedacted said: No, auto-surrender has been around for a while, the craving induced loss of control is new and uses the existing system. It might creep back after enough ticks, even with cravings satisfied on 1.430 MCM>MSMA General Settings, top of the list is Combat Submit, Surrender and Infiltration. Auto Surrender is the first option, set to 0. If it's the craving system loss of control, same MCM page between "Sex and Bimbo Report settings" and "Equipment and Hologram settings" (so about 70-80% of the way to the bottom) is Bimbo Craving settings: at the bottom of that section, Unattended cravings push player into promiscuity set to 0 should turn off the new system. Didn't seem to change anything, got the cravings and ran into a dog pack>auto surrender, reloaded>spawned and drank a SynthCum>dog pack>auto surrender. Got a log if you want it. Thank you. I do want the log, and I will put more checks. Will also test with animals as i onyl tested with humans. There might be a need for some time to pass ( 20 second after drinking the container) for those cravings that prompt action overrides to update to the new reality. To offset that will force-update their value on contrainer drink
JemappelleRedacted Posted February 5 Posted February 5 6 minutes ago, MSM_Alice said: There might be a need for some time to pass ( 20 second after drinking the container) for those cravings that prompt action overrides to update to the new reality. To offset that will force-update their value on contrainer drink I actually drank it, dismissed Heather, told Woofles to stay, checked the cravings report, then ran from the side door of the Public Library to the dogs next street towards the river so it was well more than 20sec. Didn't try humans because there were none when I got the warning 😅 Papyrus.0.log
MSM_Alice Posted February 5 Author Posted February 5 (edited) 2 hours ago, JemappelleRedacted said: No, auto-surrender has been around for a while, the craving induced loss of control is new and uses the existing system. It might creep back after enough ticks, even with cravings satisfied on 1.430 MCM>MSMA General Settings, top of the list is Combat Submit, Surrender and Infiltration. Auto Surrender is the first option, set to 0. If it's the craving system loss of control, same MCM page between "Sex and Bimbo Report settings" and "Equipment and Hologram settings" (so about 70-80% of the way to the bottom) is Bimbo Craving settings: at the bottom of that section, Unattended cravings push player into promiscuity set to 0 should turn off the new system. Didn't seem to change anything, got the cravings and ran into a dog pack>auto surrender, reloaded>spawned and drank a SynthCum>dog pack>auto surrender. Got a log if you want it. Please try this one; it should correct the need for the wait of ~30 seconds (after drinking the concentrate) for intense cravings to cool down, the cooldown should be instantaneous now. Please let me know if it is correct now. If it's still wrong, if it is wrong only for animals, or also for humans. Edit: in my tests, this latest version it seems to work okay now for both. Download link here: https://www.loverslab.com/topic/245511-msma-sexfight-like-succubus-drain-and-bimbofication/page/114/#findComment-7233060 Edited February 5 by MSM_Alice
Mimirue17 Posted February 5 Posted February 5 (edited) hmm, having an issue with the auto loss of control - have it set to 2 (auto surrender to enemies if intense enough I think) and 150, 200 for the ticks. Have 3 times told someone to grab all their friend and screw my brains out no attachments - but every time scene change and black screen - nothing happens. If you use the debug setting and remove blackscreen (ISM) one I think, you are in the random shack and there are 6 people there all standing around with the person you talked to right in front of you. There is nothing starting in the AAF window - and if you hit enter the only ones that show up are you and the person you initiated scene with. This is in DC which may or may not effect things. Any Ideas? edit: this was on 1_0430 Edited February 5 by Mimirue17
MSM_Alice Posted February 5 Author Posted February 5 4 minutes ago, Mimirue17 said: hmm, having an issue with the auto loss of control - have it set to 2 (auto surrender to enemies if intense enough I think) and 150, 200 for the ticks. Have 3 times told someone to grab all their friend and screw my brains out no attachments - but every time scene change and black screen - nothing happens. If you use the debug setting and remove blackscreen (ISM) one I think, you are in the random shack and there are 6 people there all standing around with the person you talked to right in front of you. There is nothing starting in the AAF window - and if you hit enter the only ones that show up are you and the person you initiated scene with. This is in DC which may or may not effect things. Any Ideas? edit: this was on 1_0430 Hmm.. do you have a valid 8P animation that could be used there? (NPCs plus you) In theory, the MSMA redefinitions should make sure one is available. Can you send me the log so I can see what it says in terms of what animation was attempted? Maybe should just remove any tag requirement there, just to be safer.
MSM_Alice Posted February 5 Author Posted February 5 (edited) 30 minutes ago, Mimirue17 said: hmm, having an issue with the auto loss of control - have it set to 2 (auto surrender to enemies if intense enough I think) and 150, 200 for the ticks. Have 3 times told someone to grab all their friend and screw my brains out no attachments - but every time scene change and black screen - nothing happens. If you use the debug setting and remove blackscreen (ISM) one I think, you are in the random shack and there are 6 people there all standing around with the person you talked to right in front of you. There is nothing starting in the AAF window - and if you hit enter the only ones that show up are you and the person you initiated scene with. This is in DC which may or may not effect things. Any Ideas? edit: this was on 1_0430 Does this address it ? Edit- scratch that I found the issue.. just a moment See the next post for the download. Edited February 5 by MSM_Alice
MSM_Alice Posted February 5 Author Posted February 5 29 minutes ago, Mimirue17 said: hmm, having an issue with the auto loss of control - have it set to 2 (auto surrender to enemies if intense enough I think) and 150, 200 for the ticks. Have 3 times told someone to grab all their friend and screw my brains out no attachments - but every time scene change and black screen - nothing happens. If you use the debug setting and remove blackscreen (ISM) one I think, you are in the random shack and there are 6 people there all standing around with the person you talked to right in front of you. There is nothing starting in the AAF window - and if you hit enter the only ones that show up are you and the person you initiated scene with. This is in DC which may or may not effect things. Any Ideas? edit: this was on 1_0430 This should cover all cases of the Craving-induced prostitution gangbang black screen stalls: MSMA_Act1_[In_Development]_1_0433.zip 2
Mimirue17 Posted February 5 Posted February 5 30 minutes ago, MSM_Alice said: This should cover all cases of the Craving-induced prostitution gangbang black screen stalls: MSMA_Act1_[In_Development]_1_0433.zip 245.39 MB · 1 download yes, this indeed fixed the issue and the scene progressed as intended! excellent work as usual
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