RadiantProstitution Tweaked

[Vyxenne]

I hope the Inn passive quest is fixed as well as adding more extra stuff to the mod, honestly. I'd rather have fixed what exists already rather than getting new stuff while old is still broken.

^^^^^This^^^^^

 

The whole thing is just so unpredictable and wonky- one day, feature "A" is broken but feature "B" works fine, the next time I play (without having changed anything whatsoever) feature "A" works fine but feature "B" is broken... and this seems to be every feature of the mod one or two at a time from session to session. I've never actually had all of it work right at the same time. Right now, here's what's broken:

 

1. I got the freelance job from Hulda, went and did some quests and had about 15-20 clients in the process, came back to Hulda to quit and pay her. After I did that, now she has no work for me at all. The dialog simply isn't there.

 

2. Almost all the Innkeepers (other than Hulda) have work for me, and almost all of them say "something interesting came in" but then they have nothing but Food Job, Freelance and some of them have Home Delivery. No randoms at all, ever. Resetting everything doesn't fix it. Stopquest/Startquest mf_prostitute_handler doesn't fix it. Rebuilding SexLab doesn't fix it and in addition wipes out my stats so it takes me a while after that to even get back enough Rank to hope to see the more advanced quests.

 

3. I haven't been able to get a Military Camp job since version 1.06 came out. On the two occasions when one seemed to be available, I selected it and the Innkeeper said "As long as the war lasts we will have plenty of these jobs" but then there is no job, no co-worker, no quest, no objective marker, nothing, and the Innkeeper is back to "Are you still offering work?" I don't even get the dialog any more since I finished the civil war. There are still loads of camps with soldiers in them. How would the mod know that I finished the Civil War? Seems like this should still work as long as there are populated military camps everywhere.

 

4. Last night I got into a loop- I serviced a client, and as soon as I collected gold, I saw "looking for a client" followed immediately by "hello, gorgeous" from the same client I had just satisfied. He should have been on cooldown, but he wasn't. This continued through 15 iterations (I stayed with it to see how long it would continue) until I finally manually shut it down with Stop Current Animations in SexLab then Reset All Quests in RP.

 

Basically, the only thing that works reliably for me is Freelancing. I've never tried the Food Job because I'm just not interested in that.

 

I haven't been posting these troubles as they occurred because I was pretty sure an update to fix them was imminent and didn't see any point in adding to the general noise about unexplained failures like these. But now it seems no fixes are incoming and we're building on a somewhat buggy framework to add new content? Maybe I've misread something.

 

TLDR: Please, please, please get the current features of the mod working reliably for everybody before adding more content on top of a buggy foundation.

 

Thanks

[Skyrimfloo]

I used the passive in the inn today and it appeared to be working flawlessly. 

 

Lucky you. In my case, I've tried on almost every version and it never does. Last time, I started a new game having only the USKP and this mod with its requirements, and it doesn't work still. Either the quest doesn't start properly, or I get it started but nobody calls my character out until I'm rejected an active solicitation (which kinda breaks the purpose of the passive mode).

 

Personally, the only part I'm really interested of this mod is the inn jobs, and while I enjoy the other missions, I would like to have the initial function of the mod working properly, otherwise I'm stuck at bugfixed v0.81b.

 

I don't wanna sound demanding, of course, I would understand if fixing the inn job wasn't a priority. I'd simply drop the issue and retire to my cave with the legacy version and enjoy the fact that it does work where I want it to. But it would be nice that the legacy version was kept in the downloads section, since it's a bugfix of the original mod that we can't find in the old thread, and I suppose I'm not the only one who would rather have the inn job working instead of a ton of bugged extra content. That one did properly fix issues with the old version, such as the multiple passive solicitations glitch, and it's nice to have it around.

[Vyxenne]

 

 

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PS: for radiant prostitution a few pages behind there are two huge posts with very good suggestions on how to implement interesting and "realistic" features..Idk if they will ever be implemented  but they make a good read anyway, i commented on them if you want a quick search.

 

Not everyone wants to turn Radiant Prostitution into an actual Prostitution Simulator. Most of the fun I'm having with RP is role-playing my inner slut without suffering the awful consequences of actually engaging in prostitution in real life, including:

 

• Sexually transmitted diseases
• Unwanted pregnancy followed by abortions or neglected children
• Ruined body at an early age
• High likelihood of rampant drug use
• Pimps stealing or extorting my money
• Law enforcement encounters, jail time, my first prison tattoo
• Much higher-than-normal chance of being raped, beaten and/or murdered
• Social unacceptance and prejudice

 

...the list goes on and on.

 

Rather than trying to deal with any of the above, I'm playing a prostitute like Morena Baccarin's 'Companion' character Inara in Firefly: uber-respectable, highly skilled, legal and widely renowned. It's my game, and that's how I choose to do prostitution. Thankfully, Radiant Prostitution pretty much allows me to do that without rubbing my nose in reality.

 

So please, if the community decides that RP should become more realistic and Kori agrees to do it, make it a toggle so that realistic prostitution is not forced on those of us who do NOT want it in our chosen game and mod.

 

 

Ehm..maybe before writing you should have actually go read those posts. There is nothing like that, not one of the things you listed. I used the word "realistc" between quotes for a reason, what I meant was probably more like "immersive" or simply "better", following the direction this mod has since its first development. Here, I'll link those posts: http://www.loverslab.com/topic/24450-radiantprostitution-tweaked/page-45?do=findComment&comment=720713

That's really good feedback in my opinion, and I don't want it lost..then of course anyone is free to disagree.

 

How sweet of you to tell me what I should have done.

 

I tried to find the posts you made reference to- I went "a few pages behind" (about 5-6) and didn't find anything like that. So I posted my opposition to RP becoming a prostitution simulator.

 

Now that you provided a link to the posts you were talking about, I see why I didn't find them. They are buried 20 pages back. That's not "a few pages" in my book.

 

And, not having found the posts to begin with, I certainly didn't imply that the dire consequences I listed were being recommended for inclusion in the posts I couldn't find. I listed them as "realistic" consequences of a life of prostitution and expressed my hope that they don't find their way into RP.

[most_wanted]

@Vyxenne

You should have done a search on my nickname, that's what I was implying with this part

 

 

 i commented on them if you want a quick search.

 

PS: just kidding, I should have linked it myself probably

[magicrealm]

Korial i have a bug Report.

in the quest where you are robbed and then buy the stuff back at a vendor, the quest items are vanished. in my case i didnt get back my Barenziahs Stones. please take a look at that.

[korialstraszbob]

Issue:

Received quest from Hulda to "Talk to the Hostler"

 

I've done this one before so I knew what was supposed to happen.

 

Problem:

The Hostler is dead.

Apparently killed by Vampires, but he no longer exists in the game. I get no pointer to him when that quest is active, and he never shows up for work. So.... there was no way for me to complete this quest. 

 

Here's what I did:

I went into console and searched for mf_prosti

Found the quest

typed stopquest (quest_ID) and it showed the message that it was complete.

 

After that, I could no longer get the dialogue from Hulda about still offering work. 

 

So I reset quests. That got me the dialogue back but I wonder what else I may have screwed up doing it that way

 

The problem is that RP still thinks that the quest is active instead of just stopping it set the quest stage to 100 that will end the quest.

 

Korial i have a bug Report.

in the quest where you are robbed and then buy the stuff back at a vendor, the quest items are vanished. in my case i didnt get back my Barenziahs Stones. please take a look at that.

 

mh that should not happen as all items get transferred to the vendor chest but will check that.

[xboronx]

The passive customer solitication almost works now, they keep appearing .

 

How can you dismiss unwanted customers from following you though? There are two problematic occasions that occured to me:

1. A customer tried to approach while i was talking to the innkeeper to end my job. Now he keeps following me and iniates dialogue, but since i stopped working the radiant prostitution dialogue is missing.

2. A few NPCs which initiate quests are problematic. The Vigiliant of Stendarr in Markath approached me, but i only get his quest dialogue then where he asks me about the daedra house. But i don't want to start that quest at the moment. So he is now my permanent annoying follower too.

[Vithiss]

Sapphire, in Riften, while in the Bee&Barb, before doing the quest for the stable boy is another npc that will do this, though I have avoided the problem in the past by refusing her when she approaches. There are others too, but I can't recall any other specifics.

The Battle-Born boys, Jon and the other one, also have dialog that will preempt RP if it is the first time you talk with them, but with both of them, you can get through it and go on with RP. Seems to be the same behavior, but there's no quest or anything tied to the second sort of thing, allowing RP to continue.

Also, this has been happening for as long as I've used a RP version with passive mode, not a new thing in my experience anyway.

Hope that's helpful.

[korialstraszbob]

Korial i have a bug Report.

in the quest where you are robbed and then buy the stuff back at a vendor, the quest items are vanished. in my case i didnt get back my Barenziahs Stones. please take a look at that.

 

Ok just tested this and items not flagged as quest item should not be removed at all.

The Stone apparently are not flagged as quest items and get remove.

 

But in all cases i just tested the stones where in the vendor chest in both states (Unusual Gem and Stone of barenziahhanan). you could you try to reconstruct that and check the papyrus log ?

 

[RockMic]

It seems to work perfectly only one thing I can not get the quest of the bandits, all the other 3 or 4 times with no problems but the bandits anything 0.

[Teruke]

I enjoyed it, it has the banging, it has some dialogue, it's great! Would be even cooler if replay experince would be factored more through new dialogue, maybe having the quest npcs recognise you once you'll revisit their request and have different things to say to you, not anything over complicated same outcome but diff lines i suppose. Good job!

[magicrealm]

just started a new game. i will repüort about the Stones as soon as i come to that letter., today or tomorrow.

[most_wanted]

I enjoyed it, it has the banging, it has some dialogue, it's great! Would be even cooler if replay experince would be factored more through new dialogue, maybe having the quest npcs recognise you once you'll revisit their request and have different things to say to you, not anything over complicated same outcome but diff lines i suppose. Good job!

 

Yeah, good idea. Or simply, without the need to be in a mission, whenever you start speaking with them (or click on them). They would have to be "marked" in some way when you have some "action" with them (different type of marks depending on what they did) and after, when you interact with them, they will "greet you" with the proper comment (even crude ones). That would add a  lot of immersion.

Kori probably knows if something like that is possible, I don't have any idea.

[germanicus]

Just to inform that there were some "bugs" in the latest version (which I weren't experienced in previous ones): bugs are happening in inns when it comes to the payments and home deliveries when said to inn keeper "I give up, I can't find the house." Few times, when I suppose to charge client, he plays, but the game didn't register that, so the client is following me all the time. Also, the game reports that the home delivery quest is done, but the quest it is still active in quest menu. Both bugs were "healed" by resetting quests in the MCM RP menu.

[RDKateran]

Having trouble getting any bonus quest to start.  I can only whore my character out in taverns; Home Delivery, Camp Job, and Random quests fail each and every time.

[Teruke]

Having trouble getting any bonus quest to start.  I can only whore my character out in taverns; Home Delivery, Camp Job, and Random quests fail each and every time.

 

if you're using the latest version of ZazAnimationPack then that will happen, use the previous version and all should be fine.

[Vyxenne]

I noticed another symptom of the overall problems I'm having with RP and I'm hoping someone can look at this and maybe get a clue what (if anything) I can do to fix it. I'm not attaching any papyrus logs because there is no crashing since I turned off Beds in MCM. What I have is RP simply doesn't work.

 

I have TWO (not one, but TWO) RP master quests active, which might explain why I keep getting

• duplicate dialogs- it can't be just "Skyrim being stupid" because I have played several other quest mods and they don't give me duplicate dialogs
• some innkeepers don't have the "still offering work" dialog when they should
• some innkeepers say "something interesting came in" but then all they have is the Inn job and rarely, a Home Delivery
• some innkeepers DO have work for me when they shouldn't because I'm already working for another innkeeper
• no innkeeper offers any Camp or Random quests at all

 

Resetting all quests, searching for new quests and/or stopquest/startquest mf_prostitute_handler do not fix this. Here's a screenie of what I'm seeing in my quest journal:

 

 

Thanks in advance to anyone who has an idea how to fix RP.

[germanicus]

I would recommend uninstalling the mod and run the Save tool mod to clean all run errors. It can be downloaded from Nexus page. There are three steps of cleaning and "how to" is included in the readme file. After you clean the save, install the mod and do required steps. Anyway, this is the first time I saw a double quest in the menu.

 

I checked and the author of the mod alow sharing his mod. So, here it is:

 

Savetool-52363-1-00.zip

[Guest]

I'm ctding when I simply click to put on the Tavern outfit. I have the SOS patch installed, so Idk what gives. I did enlarge breasts in Bodyslide and batched outfits, so could that be it? Frustrating as hell

 

 

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[Vyxenne]

I would recommend uninstalling the mod and run the Save tool mod to clean all run errors. It can be downloaded from Nexus page. There are three steps of cleaning and "how to" is included in the readme file. After you clean the save, install the mod and do required steps. Anyway, this is the first time I saw a double quest in the menu.

 

I checked and the author of the mod alow sharing his mod. So, here it is:

 

Savetool-52363-1-00.zip

 

I already have the Savetool and have uninstalled > Savetool-cleaned > reinstalled RP twice since 1.06 came out. I guess I should try that again, but it's discouraging that RP seems to shoot itself in the foot and just steadily degrade itself as we play it...

 

Someone else mentioned that the latest Zaz Animation Pack causes RP to screw up, so I think I'll try to find an earlier version of that while I'm at it.

 

Thanks for the helpful response.

[germanicus]

I have newest Zaz pack and all works fine with all 4 of my characters. It might be the truth that the Zaz animation pack has to do with but I doubt because I guess we all would have the same issue. But, on the other hand, I'm not an expert.

 

Here is the previous version of Zaz if you need:

 

ZazAnimationPack_V0054.7z

[RDKateran]

Downgrading didn't help me at all for the zaz pack.  It can't be that causing the problem.

[Teruke]

for me, RP wasn't registering quests, when you clicked "GO" it would find 0, and when I downgraded it managed to find them, ofc I had to use a new game! but this was my case, yours could stem from something else.

[Vyxenne]

I have newest Zaz pack and all works fine with all 4 of my characters. It might be the truth that the Zaz animation pack has to do with but I doubt because I guess we all would have the same issue. But, on the other hand, I'm not an expert.

 

Here is the previous version of Zaz if you need:

 

ZazAnimationPack_V0054.7z

 

Thanks, germanicus... I found that I was running ZaZ version 05.4. I also found that they released a newer version only a week or so ago, AFTER all the statements that it was causing RP to crash were posted, so I figured ZaZ was updated in response to those reported issues.

 

So after uninstalling RP and running the Savetool then re-installing RP, I installed the new ZaZ version 05.51. After running Generate_FNIS_for_users I loaded my latest save, but once I got in-game I found that I still had duplicate RP quests in my journal, same as shown in my previous screenie.

 

I'm on my way in-game now to run around from Inn to Inn and see what jobs (if any) are being offered to see if un/re installing RP and updating ZaZ had any effect, but based on still having two RP umbrella quests I doubt that anything has changed.

 

[Vyxenne]

for me, RP wasn't registering quests, when you clicked "GO" it would find 0, and when I downgraded it managed to find them, ofc I had to use a new game! but this was my case, your's could stem from something else.

 

For me, RP has consistently found 7 quests for the past 2-3 versions since that MCM feature was implemented. Unfortunately, no innkeeper will actually GIVE me any of them, but they are apparently being found.