Debaster Posted April 15, 2014 Posted April 15, 2014 Will followers screw up the military quest? I went with serana waifu and none of the soldiers had any dialogue options for RP. I also didnt see this other whore.
germanicus Posted April 15, 2014 Posted April 15, 2014 icladel - it is, but you don't have so many (8) random quests.
nutluck Posted April 15, 2014 Posted April 15, 2014 Ok later I might have time to test, is home delivery the only one people are having trouble with on the 1.7b update?
germanicus Posted April 15, 2014 Posted April 15, 2014 nutlock - 7a and 7b versions has serious issues with home deliveries. first, there is only one quest (1stranger+1wench), animations partially works, partially not, when finished the task customers are repeating the same line all the time at the end of the quest, Sl doesn't record/count every home delivery... And few small things that are tolerable. I do not know for other random quests since I haven't reached them.
nutluck Posted April 15, 2014 Posted April 15, 2014 You can just use the console commands to force the other quests to start. Just do the following. open console command ~ type in the following and then hit enter help mf_prostitute that will pull up a list of all the quests, then find a quest you want to start and type this as a example startquest mf_prostitute_stablebang I think I got the name of the quest right, doing it from memory but it is something like that. That is the name of the horse quest. Anyways that is what I have been doing for awhile now to test all the quests, it takes a lot less time than hoping to get each of the random ones to test. After this mod is done with testing and I am doing a actually next play thru I of course will just play it out. But for now I have a saved test game I use just for testing varies mods.
germanicus Posted April 15, 2014 Posted April 15, 2014 Thanks for the tips nutluck. I know those console commands, but I want the game to trigger various home deliveries. Home delivery quest had single to single (MM, FM, FF), threways (FFM, MMF, MMM, FFF), now, it does have only one (competition with other wench). No other variation in home delivery is triggered. I also have one save just to do the testing. The inn's quests (autonomous and active) are working great now. I purposely stuck to home deliveries to see all the problems.
Vyxenne Posted April 15, 2014 Posted April 15, 2014 OK, I give up. There's nothing of RP left that works for me except Freelance (and maybe Food, which I've never bothered trying because being a waitress is not something I want to do with my game time.) I can't get any Camp Jobs at all. The subject just never comes up, possibly because I finished the Civil War... or because RP is broken. There are no more non-quest-related female NPCs left in Inns that I haven't already recruited, and since they don't give me any gold for their tricks, the whole recruiting thing is kind of pointless anyway. I can't get any random quests (Orcs, Horse, Bandits, Giants) at all. The subject just never comes up. And now, the only other quest I used to enjoy, Home Delivery, is completely infuriating and very un-fun because it takes up 20-30 minutes real time (hours and hours of game time) and without me having any control at all, another hooker and her client show up every time and the guys make a bet that I can't possibly win (just like the co-worker always wins the Camp Job bet even though she never has a client at all, ever) because me not getting paid is scripted into the quest now. So Home Deliveries are broken now like everything else. At least with the Camp Jobs, I had the option to decline the bet once I learned that it was impossible to win it... with the new Home Delivery, I have no option, and I simply don't get paid after hours and hours of sex... and then, to add insult to injury, I have to tell the Innkeeper "I got out-whored" which is a lie and not at all what happened, and the Innkeeper tells me to "do better next time" which is impossible since I have no control whatsoever over the outcome. Truly infuriating. I've tried and tried to make this work- other than clean installs, Savetools and starting new games, nobody has any help that makes any of this work. I've uploaded Papyrus logs and posted screenies of everything that's going wrong, and nobody knows what any of it means or how to fix any of it. So I think I'm uninstalling RP and just using MatchMaker to have sex since the only point to using RP is now gone. Thanks to all, I made some friends here and I'll miss you guys.
RDKateran Posted April 15, 2014 Posted April 15, 2014 Camp Job is designed to only appear before the Civil War quests even begin; the moment you pick a side you lose the quest option. If you've already completed the civil war, that's why you don't have access to the camp job.
Vyxenne Posted April 16, 2014 Posted April 16, 2014 Will followers screw up the military quest? I went with serana waifu and none of the soldiers had any dialogue options for RP. I also didnt see this other whore. I'm pretty sure Serana's last name is Volkihar, not "waifu"...
orcking12 Posted April 16, 2014 Posted April 16, 2014 It would be cool to add a reason for the dragonborn to be doing prostitution not anything eleborate persay but just an immersive reason for example: 1. Option one for this, when the dragon sleeps in an inn she could be poisened or collared at night by the local inn keeper and raped, then the inn keeper finds the dragon born and decideds to use her as a whore instead of free her untill enough money has been made. 2. The Dragonborn could recieve a letter saying severl young girls have gone missing and that this group wants the dragonborns image ruined and would like her to start horing at different inns. The inn keeper when asked would tell the dragonborn about her daughter and others that have gone missing. 3. The Dragonborn recieves a large tax some and is arrested raped by the guards then sold to a local inn keeper. 4. the dragonborn is approached by either the storm cloacks or imperials and asked to go unercover as a whore in the opposing capitol. these could be just simple dialouge options that could be toggleable in the menu and would add some immersion because unless its a new character that is weak and broke or just a really really slutty dragonborn that doesn't care about the money just sex its not immersive initiating the prostitution.
germanicus Posted April 16, 2014 Posted April 16, 2014 It would be cool to add a reason for the dragonborn to be doing prostitution not anything eleborate persay but just an immersive reason for example: 1. Option one for this, when the dragon sleeps in an inn she could be poisened or collared at night by the local inn keeper and raped, then the inn keeper finds the dragon born and decideds to use her as a whore instead of free her untill enough money has been made. 2. The Dragonborn could recieve a letter saying severl young girls have gone missing and that this group wants the dragonborns image ruined and would like her to start horing at different inns. The inn keeper when asked would tell the dragonborn about her daughter and others that have gone missing. 3. The Dragonborn recieves a large tax some and is arrested raped by the guards then sold to a local inn keeper. 4. the dragonborn is approached by either the storm cloacks or imperials and asked to go unercover as a whore in the opposing capitol. these could be just simple dialouge options that could be toggleable in the menu and would add some immersion because unless its a new character that is weak and broke or just a really really slutty dragonborn that doesn't care about the money just sex its not immersive initiating the prostitution. You have very interesting ideas. I would love to see that in the game.
NismoMan Posted April 16, 2014 Posted April 16, 2014 Actually below are my notes regarding the latest update: Are quests are now working for me so far including passive solicitation that I had a problem with before. +1 Home Delivery: I have only played this twice... all of which are the betting competition, I don't know if I'm striking luck here, but yeah, I need to play it some more to confirm whether it's the only home delivery quest available with the latest update. The betting home delivery quest might need some tuning in regards to the on going conversations; a bit more control over this would be nice. maybe the ability to adjust the number of "sequences" or "poisitions" in MCM would help cover everyone's needs instead of letting it go for an extreme 20 / 30 minutes? Home Delivery: After winning / losing the competition; a dialogue is still available with the client that when chosen could restart a broken version of the whole quest ( I don't remember the details of the line, but I believe it says "Continue listening..." or something, is it broken? because throughout the whole dialogue between the two guys I've never gotten this "continue listening..." option. I've noticed an increased number of CTD's when an RP job is active, mostly I go about 6 hours of gameplay with little or no issues at all and CTD'ed about 3 times only over the last two weeks, but I did CTD and Froze about 4 times in my last run. It might be good to backtrack some of the changes in 1.7a and b? They seem to have added a fair amount of content over the previous updates. I usually don't think much of CTD's and Frozen games, this is Skyrim after all and I am in fact running a high number of mods (over 280 on my last count back in Feb), ultra settings, 4k textures everywhere, ENB, and a gazillion SL plugins, HDT and much more (I have a good rig that runs it all at 30 to 60 fps with the occasional 25's under ungodly circumstances) and things are bound to break down a bit; it's just that it's been evident in my latest 4 hours gameplay with RP the only new addition to my load order. Home Delivery: I've noticed once when I failed at the betting competition that the cool down counter might be broken; after speaking with the inn keeper and telling her that I've been out-whored, all RP dialogues are then removed from the conversation tree, ie. The "Are you still offering work" disappears and never comes back. I hope you'll find the above useful; I'll dig a little deeper into the other quests as well to make sure all is fine; I was paying special attention to the latest update additions that I wasn't focusing much on what was working fine before Best of luck mate, I know things might get overwhelming sometimes and you should know that we appreciate the time and effort spent on this baby. Thanks
NismoMan Posted April 16, 2014 Posted April 16, 2014 It would be cool to add a reason for the dragonborn to be doing prostitution not anything eleborate persay but just an immersive reason for example: 1. Option one for this, when the dragon sleeps in an inn she could be poisened or collared at night by the local inn keeper and raped, then the inn keeper finds the dragon born and decideds to use her as a whore instead of free her untill enough money has been made. 2. The Dragonborn could recieve a letter saying severl young girls have gone missing and that this group wants the dragonborns image ruined and would like her to start horing at different inns. The inn keeper when asked would tell the dragonborn about her daughter and others that have gone missing. 3. The Dragonborn recieves a large tax some and is arrested raped by the guards then sold to a local inn keeper. 4. the dragonborn is approached by either the storm cloacks or imperials and asked to go unercover as a whore in the opposing capitol. these could be just simple dialouge options that could be toggleable in the menu and would add some immersion because unless its a new character that is weak and broke or just a really really slutty dragonborn that doesn't care about the money just sex its not immersive initiating the prostitution. My Dragonborn has no reason... she just loves cocks and getting paid for having them is a certainly good bonus
Fredfish Posted April 16, 2014 Posted April 16, 2014 Will followers screw up the military quest? I went with serana waifu and none of the soldiers had any dialogue options for RP. I also didnt see this other whore. I'm pretty sure Serana's last name is Volkihar, not "waifu"... See definition of Waifu here http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=waifu
traveller_phi Posted April 16, 2014 Posted April 16, 2014 It would be cool to add a reason for the dragonborn to be doing prostitution not anything eleborate persay but just an immersive reason for example: 1. Option one for this, when the dragon sleeps in an inn she could be poisened or collared at night by the local inn keeper and raped, then the inn keeper finds the dragon born and decideds to use her as a whore instead of free her untill enough money has been made. 2. The Dragonborn could recieve a letter saying severl young girls have gone missing and that this group wants the dragonborns image ruined and would like her to start horing at different inns. The inn keeper when asked would tell the dragonborn about her daughter and others that have gone missing. 3. The Dragonborn recieves a large tax some and is arrested raped by the guards then sold to a local inn keeper. 4. the dragonborn is approached by either the storm cloacks or imperials and asked to go unercover as a whore in the opposing capitol. these could be just simple dialouge options that could be toggleable in the menu and would add some immersion because unless its a new character that is weak and broke or just a really really slutty dragonborn that doesn't care about the money just sex its not immersive initiating the prostitution. A lot of these do seem to imply that the dragonborn is weak or broke anyway. I prefer to use an alternative start from LAL (deviant or not) and avoid the main questline until the dragonborn character is established. A down on her luck girl is much easier to push in this direction than the legendary dragonborn on an epic quest. I don't mean to be too critical, but these are the questions that your scenarios raise for me. 1. Innkeepers that regularly enslave and whore their customers don't stay in business long. Word does eventually get out. And if an inkeeper has both morals low enough and skills high enough to do this to the dragonborn, there are a lot more lucrative options open to them. It might work if the "inkeeper" is actually an agent for a powerful organization that would like to see the dragonborn's quest delayed for fail, and have the "kept as a whore" story as a cover so the dragonborn doesn't suspect that the secret organization is behind it. 2. Comes back to my alternative to 1., but after their cover is blown. Still it seems that a dragonborn who was not already slutty enough to want to become a prostitute on her own would be busy tracking down the kidnappers rather than whoring it up. After all tracking down the kidnappers would have law enforcement support. Also who is this organization that is powerful or secretive enough not to fear eventual retaliation from the dragonborn, but only wants her reputation sullied, not killed or recruited into the organization? 3. Ok, the local jarl wants to turn the dragonborn into a whore. Massive abuse of power there ... must be a sudden onset of insanity. Rulers do not stay in power long displaying such overt disregard for the responsibilities of office in order to indulge in random whim. Why does the Jarl want the dragonborn turned into a whore? To high profile of a case for an underling to do this without the Jarl's notice. 4. This is the most reasonable option in the list. Still it requires that the dragonborn not be opposed to whoring it up anyway. A commander is not going to risk alienating a powerful fighter such as the dragonborn by making this an order, and would have to come before the other side learns that the dragonborn has joined the opposition. It is relatively easy to explain why an anonymous down on her luck girl would turn to prostitution to make ends meet. Much more difficult to pull off after the legendary dragonborn starts on her quest. The above reasons mostly push the question of "why does the dragonborn randomly decide to whore herself out" to "why is someone able and willing to randonly make the dragonborn whore herself out". If someone could tie up all the loose strings, it would result in an epic mod, but would also be an epic undertaking. Who is this secret, powerful organization that desires the corruption of the dragonborn? To what profitable end are they willing to humiliate the dragonborn and risk her retribution? Is it a plot to corrupt her to the point that she will willingly join them, or is the point to lead her down some path that she unwittingly makes a choice that furthers the organization's goals. Will the organization succeed or will the dragonborn eventually uncover the plot and foil them?
NismoMan Posted April 16, 2014 Posted April 16, 2014 Here too regarding the home delivery quest; 3rd time in a row. apparently the latest update comes with a lot of issues and yes; many runtime errors. I've noticed this though which I found to be really strange: After completing a round at the inn entertaining patrons, I've spoke to the Argonian keeper (Riften) and ended my run. I then requested a home delivery and did not meet the client at first, I saved, closed the game and then ran the game again, loaded and when I went to the client (Bollie in my case) I've found the "are you looking for a good time" option under the dialogue options and it's not just him, but everyone. went to Keerava (YES! that's her name... I guess) and no extra option to end the walking prostitution and found only the one related to the Home Delivery (I couldn't find the client's house... or something). I believe 1.7a is more stable than 1.7b.. at least for me. Hope this helps [EDIT] I've went back to a clean save, reset the quests, re-registered them and started the natural, of which everything went fine until I went back to the inn to end it, but it didn't end and I'm stuck now; I tried using sqs to list the active missions but the Natural wasn't among the listed active missions but it's still available in the journal.
jxm Posted April 16, 2014 Posted April 16, 2014 It would be cool to add a reason for the dragonborn to be doing prostitution not anything eleborate persay but just an immersive reason for example: 2. Comes back to my alternative to 1., but after their cover is blown. Still it seems that a dragonborn who was not already slutty enough to want to become a prostitute on her own would be busy tracking down the kidnappers rather than whoring it up. After all tracking down the kidnappers would have law enforcement support. Also who is this organization that is powerful or secretive enough not to fear eventual retaliation from the dragonborn, but only wants her reputation sullied, not killed or recruited into the organization? Thalmor. Elenwen. Of course such a "reason" would make most sense once a certain part of the main quest is triggered. After that I could actually imagine the Thalmor are looking for some kind of revenge. And the Thalmor also seem to be elitist enough to not want any outsider, even powerful ones, within their ranks. And hurting the Dragonborns reputation out of fear that s/he becomes some kind of figuerehead for Thalmor-Resistance might also be a reason. However, I think giving "reasons" for why the Dragonborn becomes the Dragonwhore is a but out of scope of this mod. Though I wouldn't mind a bit of story-background as well, I have to say...
Skyrimfloo Posted April 16, 2014 Posted April 16, 2014 OK, I give up. There's nothing of RP left that works for me except Freelance (and maybe Food, which I've never bothered trying because being a waitress is not something I want to do with my game time.) I've tried and tried to make this work- other than clean installs, Savetools and starting new games, nobody has any help that makes any of this work. I've uploaded Papyrus logs and posted screenies of everything that's going wrong, and nobody knows what any of it means or how to fix any of it. So I think I'm uninstalling RP and just using MatchMaker to have sex since the only point to using RP is now gone. Thanks to all, I made some friends here and I'll miss you guys. Did the old bugfixed version that was taken out some updates ago, work for you? I think it was a bad move to take it out, honestly. I keep the installer on my modlist, and I would attach it here if anybody else wants it, since now all you can get are the latest versions.
PubliusNV Posted April 17, 2014 Posted April 17, 2014 It would be cool to add a reason for the dragonborn to be doing prostitution not anything eleborate persay but just an immersive reason for example: 2. Comes back to my alternative to 1., but after their cover is blown. Still it seems that a dragonborn who was not already slutty enough to want to become a prostitute on her own would be busy tracking down the kidnappers rather than whoring it up. After all tracking down the kidnappers would have law enforcement support. Also who is this organization that is powerful or secretive enough not to fear eventual retaliation from the dragonborn, but only wants her reputation sullied, not killed or recruited into the organization? Thalmor. Elenwen. Of course such a "reason" would make most sense once a certain part of the main quest is triggered. After that I could actually imagine the Thalmor are looking for some kind of revenge. And the Thalmor also seem to be elitist enough to not want any outsider, even powerful ones, within their ranks. And hurting the Dragonborns reputation out of fear that s/he becomes some kind of figuerehead for Thalmor-Resistance might also be a reason. However, I think giving "reasons" for why the Dragonborn becomes the Dragonwhore is a but out of scope of this mod. Though I wouldn't mind a bit of story-background as well, I have to say... It's not hard to make up scenarios on your own. The storyline of my current playthrough is that the PC is a Thalmor official who was sent to Skyrim to audit the books, found a corrupt official stealing money, then was drugged, bound, and dumped in the wilderness by that official before she could turn him in (using LADL). She starts out with bounties on her in all holds, no armor or weapons, and no money. She can't trust the Jarls, since they think she's a criminal, and she can't trust any Thalmor. What's a girl to do to make enough money to get herself some armor and a shield?
germanicus Posted April 17, 2014 Posted April 17, 2014 Korial - first of all, thank you for fixing home delivery quests. One question - Using Tes edit5 I changed some of your lines in dialog options. (Made some talk more dirty ). Tes edit5 regularly made back ups every few minutes. But, whenever I upgrade your mod with the new version, my lines are erased by the new installation. So, how can I get back my backup lines from Tes edit5 backup folder and made them work again? Thanks.
afa Posted April 17, 2014 Posted April 17, 2014 For the people commenting on the "nature" of the all powerful dragonborn becoming a whore, anyone played the oblivion mod LoversGGBlackmail?
demon717 Posted April 17, 2014 Posted April 17, 2014 I did a clean install of with a fresh character and whenever I try to start a home delivery, camp, or letter quest, I get a message that says no match for home delivery or no quest was started. I've received this error with all versions of 1.07. I downgraded to 1.05f and used the same character and everything worked fine with that version. Then I went back to 1.07c and kept getting the same errors as before.
NismoMan Posted April 17, 2014 Posted April 17, 2014 I did a clean install of with a fresh character and whenever I try to start a home delivery, camp, or letter quest, I get a message that says no match for home delivery or no quest was started. I've received this error with all versions of 1.07. I downgraded to 1.05f and used the same character and everything worked fine with that version. Then I went back to 1.07c and kept getting the same errors as before. Which SKSE version are you using? Make sure it's 1.7Alpha. Also, use the batch file included in the downloaded archive before installing RP. Once in game, if you still have an error of quests not available, try going into the MCM menu and click "reset quests" close MCM, get back in and press on the "Go" button to register the quests. Hopefully this should help
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