SLUTS Redux 2

[Hex Bolt]

7 minutes ago, Psalam said:

I don't need to. The "arms" of the cart will move with me - the cart doesn't move.

 

This happened six times (all in one run). I was going for the blue uniform bonus.

That's strange.  Just the other day, I did this and had some problems where I just had to click on the cart to tether again.  I'll do some more testing.

[Psalam]

29 minutes ago, Hex Bolt said:

That's strange.  Just the other day, I did this and had some problems where I just had to click on the cart to tether again.  I'll do some more testing.

I thought that it was strange too. That's why I thought that I'd better let you know. As I mentioned, I can work around it.

[CaptainJ03]

10 hours ago, Psalam said:

I've tried the new version and the SDB animation works perfectly! Now you know there is a "but" coming. But, after the animation plays the cart is frozen (won't move). I've used my tricks and can get past this but I thought that you would want to know.

I can confirm that for AE. The butt slap animation breaks the connection to the cart. I've reverted to the previous version of the mod, as the Arch Mage isn't doing SLUTS runs in this playthrough.

 

When doing multiple runs, I quicksave after I've gotten the contract, exit, resume. Haven't tried your Shift-E, Shift-Space cycle yet.

[Hex Bolt]

1 minute ago, CaptainJ03 said:

I can confirm that for AE. The butt slap animation breaks the connection to the cart.

Thanks.  I'll prioritize a fix.

[Psalam]

4 hours ago, CaptainJ03 said:

I can confirm that for AE. The butt slap animation breaks the connection to the cart. I've reverted to the previous version of the mod, as the Arch Mage isn't doing SLUTS runs in this playthrough.

 

When doing multiple runs, I quicksave after I've gotten the contract, exit, resume. Haven't tried your Shift-E, Shift-Space cycle yet.

As I mentioned, they're not really mine. Those are just the hotkeys given by the mod. The cycle just seems to be a near universal fix.

[Hex Bolt]

Okay, I have a fix, but I want to test it a bit more before publishing it.  So far, with this fix I haven't seen the butt slap untether the PC from the cart.  As I'd suspected, it's a simple change to the script that SLUTS uses to interface with the butt slap mod.

 

A detail to be aware of is that the interface duplicates some of the butt slap code, and that's where I made the fix.  So, if SLUTS initiates the butt slap, it's fixed, but if Slap da Butt decides to do the slap, it will still untether you.  However, you're unlikely to see that while you're on the job.  The only time I saw it happen was when I was near the dispatcher and he got handsy before I could talk to him.  Being untethered didn't matter then, because the cart was right there and the next stage was going to tether me to the cart again.  If you're concerned about that, set the butt slap chance to 0 or make the cooldown long.  SLUTS ignores those parameters and always gives pony girls a butt slap sendoff.

[Hex Bolt]

Version 2.0.8

 

Fixed:  Butt slaps would untether you from the cart.
Fixed:  Hidden cargo weight could sometimes get swept into the escrow chest on multi-leg runs.

[CaptainJ03]

14 hours ago, Hex Bolt said:

Version 2.0.8

 

Fixed:  Butt slaps would untether you from the cart.
Fixed:  Hidden cargo weight could sometimes get swept into the escrow chest on multi-leg runs.

Thank you for the quick update. This works now (on AE)

[Psalam]

A quick check on LE (one run) makes it appear to be fixed there as well. Thanks.

[Psalam]

Okay, I just completed a series of seven (7) runs without a single SDB related issue. As far as I'm concerned that means the problem is solved.

 

I did have some cart physics issues (as I did in previous versions); twice in seven runs. Both corrected with the method I described above.

 

And, as long as I'm here, I want to point out that since the tail plug now provides a speed boost it no longer gives the previous chance for increased sexual arousal and orgasm. I believe the logic that prompted the change would be that anyone in a SLUTS yoke didn't want to be there and a speed boost is far more helpful than an orgasm.

 

However, most of the time (Submissive Lola and Simple Slavery excluded) all of the runs my character makes (26 in a typical game) are made voluntarily. So, having the sexual pleasure as motivation is part of my gameplay. As a result what I have done is use Add Item Menu to add a vaginal plug (this could be done by console command if you're trying to avoid mod bloat). Specifically I have been using "Laura's Pleaser" from the Laura's Bondage Shop mod. With this, my character averages one orgasm per run - which helps for motivation - along with the money. If you choose to do this be aware that you have to add the plug after the carriage driver has taken away all your items, or it will be taken away too. Fortunately, once you have the plug and insert it (which can be done with the yoke active despite the warning that it can't), it will remain in place for as many continuous runs as you make.

 

As usual, thanks for this great mod @Hex Bolt!

[Hex Bolt]

1 hour ago, Psalam said:

I want to point out that since the tail plug now provides a speed boost it no longer gives the previous chance for increased sexual arousal and orgasm. I believe the logic that prompted the change would be that anyone in a SLUTS yoke didn't want to be there and a speed boost is far more helpful than an orgasm.

I don't believe the tail plugs ever did have a vibration effect.  Looking at the earlier Esturk version, it did not.  I'd assumed that this was to avoid having the vibration animation occur at a bad time.  The pony plug has the plug keyword, which should increase arousal slowly, but it does not have vibration keywords, so no orgasms (as you'd mentioned).

 

1 hour ago, Psalam said:

However, most of the time (Submissive Lola and Simple Slavery excluded) all of the runs my character makes (26 in a typical game) are made voluntarily. So, having the sexual pleasure as motivation is part of my gameplay.

I had added the option for sex with the dispatcher under the needs topic ("[Communicate with your eyes since the bridle is in your mouth]").  Wouldn't that work for you?  I think it fits the company's goals.  Dispatchers get a nice perk, and pony girls get exercised regularly.  Having to finish the run to get relief keeps the pony girl motivated to arrive quickly.

 

Viewed that way, does it satisfy your concern?

[badbat111]

could you have sex at the end of the run before they remove the gag the npc does make comments like sorry i only give to the temple XD

[Psalam]

31 minutes ago, Hex Bolt said:

I don't believe the tail plugs ever did have a vibration effect.

You're probably right although I'd swear that it used to.

 

32 minutes ago, Hex Bolt said:

I had added the option for sex with the dispatcher under the needs topic ("[Communicate with your eyes since the bridle is in your mouth]").  Wouldn't that work for you?  I think it fits the company's goals.  Dispatchers get a nice perk, and pony girls get exercised regularly.  Having to finish the run to get relief keeps the pony girl motivated to arrive quickly.

 

Viewed that way, does it satisfy your concern?

Let me say, this is NOT a concern. This is me expressing how I "play" my game, nothing more.

 

My character can get sex (and she does a great deal). Largely, this comes from my own mod. It also comes from many of the other fine mods found here on LL like Radiant Prostitution. No, what I found (for me) was that the person who was interested in doing SLUTS voluntarily enjoys the sex aspect of the run itself. So, my character can say that when she's in SLUTS mode she gets the best orgasms of her life. This does not mean that I don't appreciate what you're saying and it is a good thing for the involuntary mode (as I mentioned above).

[Hex Bolt]

24 minutes ago, badbat111 said:

could you have sex at the end of the run before they remove the gag the npc does make comments like sorry i only give to the temple XD

I prefer not change the flow for completing the delivery and getting the pony gear removed.  It would be bad if that part does not work reliably.  You can ask for sex (or other needs) at the start of a delivery, but when you've finished the job, the company is no longer obligated to take care of your needs (unless you'd like to volunteer for another delivery).

 

If you're talking about involuntary sex, I'd rather not add that.  As far as I know, sex with the dispatcher is either consensual or it occurs when you deliberately provoke him (in which case he misunderstands your action as a request for sex).  There's enough of the involuntary kind from defeat mods during a run.

[xyzxyz]

When I asked for my stuff back the worker equiped both nipple rings and nipple clamps on the player. the dialogue only said rings but they got replaced by the clamps. I have both in my inventory now

[Hex Bolt]

2 hours ago, xyzxyz said:

When I asked for my stuff back the worker equiped both nipple rings and nipple clamps on the player. the dialogue only said rings but they got replaced by the clamps. I have both in my inventory now

I haven't touched that part of the mod, so it's probably been that way for a long time.  I've added an entry in the to-do list to look at it.

[xyzxyz]

14 minutes ago, Hex Bolt said:

I haven't touched that part of the mod, so it's probably been that way for a long time.  I've added an entry in the to-do list to look at it.

Wasn't the "get your chest with equipment back at delivery point for a favour" your addition?

[Hex Bolt]

2 minutes ago, xyzxyz said:

Wasn't the "get your chest with equipment back at delivery point for a favour" your addition?

No.  I don't even use that option.  When I finish a run, I accept the challenge of returning to get my stuff naked and with nothing.  Mods like Deviously Helpless or crime laws against nudity can make that interesting enough.

Edited August 14 by Hex Bolt

[badbat111]

i cant send the file in mail i edited the original cart to have a roofed canopy by extracting the carts from skyrim meshes and textures copyed and pasted the canopys to the cart edited the size and edited the position in nifskope sadly looks bad but it might help with my suggesting from the pm

sluts cart roof.zip

Edited August 14 by badbat111

[CaptainJ03]

2 hours ago, Hex Bolt said:

I haven't touched that part of the mod, so it's probably been that way for a long time.  I've added an entry in the to-do list to look at it.

from memory, as I haven't used that option in  a while: When you get locked in a dress, you'll get one, but that gets unequipped in an instant, and you'll end up in the other one of the same colour. Never bothered me enough to mention it, and I don't remember if that was consistent behaviour.

 

2 hours ago, Hex Bolt said:

When I finish a run, I accept the challenge of returning to get my stuff naked and with nothing. 

With nothing? When I'm having a cart attached, I'm a serious killer, Thalmor patrols or the occasional Sabre Cat are very accidential roadkills. Got something to get dressed and stuff to sell, so that I could even take the carriage back home.

[Hex Bolt]

2 hours ago, CaptainJ03 said:

With nothing? When I'm having a cart attached, I'm a serious killer, Thalmor patrols or the occasional Sabre Cat are very accidential roadkills. Got something to get dressed and stuff to sell, so that I could even take the carriage back home.

Difference in mods and play style.

 

I use Deviously Helpless Extended (I built that version specifically to use with SLUTS) and set the capture range so that if anyone gets as close as the rear of the cart, I'm caught.  Animals are dumb enough to get run over, but people are not (at least with my setup).  I assume that they grab on and climb over or just sprint around to grab the pony girl, giving them credit for more sense than the AI allows them.  People must be avoided, or I lose cargo.

 

I don't let myself loot anything on the way, a self-imposed restriction because it doesn't seem like it would be possible in a yoke.  Even if I could grab something, pony gear doesn't have pockets, and anything tossed onto the cart would probably fall off during the next animal kill or evasive maneuver.  That's not even considering that the Company probably designed the carts to make that difficult so as to discourage pony girls from delays trying to get loot onto the cart -- or that dispatchers might confiscate any extra cargo not on the manifest as a matter of company policy (or personal profit).  Just my personal assumptions.

 

So, I arrive at the dispatcher with nothing.  For a single-leg haul, the return trip might have some animal carcasses littering the road, but nothing wearable without access to crafting stations to use the pelts.  For multi-leg hauls, I might not even be going that direction to the escrow chest.

 

Got love sickness during the haul from one of those bandit encounters?  Well, good luck trying to fight off villains using spells while suffering from those debuffs, because with Deviously Helpless set so you're vulnerable when naked and barefoot (and especially when love sick too), you have to fight (to do damage to cancel the automatic capture) or simply avoid threats and go well around.

 

So, circling around the bad guys and oh look, there's a bear!  He runs faster, and apparently, it's mating season all year round.

 

Get bone break fever from trying to be a hero and fight the bear while under love sickness debuffs.  Should've just surrendered and accepted what's coming.  With iNeed's Dangerous Diseases feature, that can't be cured by touching a shrine (what a wonderful world if all disease could be cured so easily!).  Pay a priest or buy a potion, and that just about wipes out the profit for that run.  Good times.

 

I prefer that kind of challenge.  Not saying it's better than other people's choices, it's just what I like.

Edited August 14 by Hex Bolt

[xyzxyz]

Lucius Pullo in falkreath has no dialogue to free me from the car and check it out. I can't deliver to him

[Hex Bolt]

1 hour ago, xyzxyz said:

Lucius Pullo in falkreath has no dialogue to free me from the car and check it out. I can't deliver to him

He should work.  Lucius is actually the template used for the other 3 dispatchers that this mod adds for towns that don't have a carriage.

 

Get Stage sluts_mission_scenes should be 20, and you should be wearing the SLUTS pony gag.  Check your quest log to be sure that you're at the correct destination (I've made that mistake before when reloading after a break of several days).

[CaptainJ03]

7 hours ago, xyzxyz said:

Lucius Pullo in falkreath has no dialogue to free me from the car and check it out. I can't deliver to him

One of the few who works without a flaw because he has no Doppelgänger (*)

 

What dialogue does he have? If you're at the wrong destination, you should have five or six options in square brackets, asking for somewhere to sleep, food, cure disease, sex...

If he has neither these nor the chance to deliver your load, your game is borked.

 

(*) I'm using this mod together with some carriage an travel overhaul on AE, so the big cities have two dispatchers, and sometimes you get a ten yard haul from one to the other. Not the fault of this mod, though, you can't patch everything.

 

[xyzxyz]

10 hours ago, Hex Bolt said:

He should work.  Lucius is actually the template used for the other 3 dispatchers that this mod adds for towns that don't have a carriage.

 

Get Stage sluts_mission_scenes should be 20, and you should be wearing the SLUTS pony gag.  Check your quest log to be sure that you're at the correct destination (I've made that mistake before when reloading after a break of several days).

Stage is 20

For some reason they had equipped a red bone gag so maybe he was missing a trigger?

Edited 24 minutes ago by xyzxyz