Hey look it's another thread for bitching about nexus.

[Monsto Brukes]

You don't have to own/run a high traffic website to know that whoever is managing infrastructure needs to be fired. I'm positive that site makes $10s of Ks per month and there's no reason at all for it to be going up n down more than a cheap hooker.

 

It should absolutely be cloud hosted, especially after the latest "host any mod" update. Monolithic structure at this point is nothing but a hindrance to growth. They just keep shooting themselves in the foot.

 

And nevermind all the social issues. . . 

 

"why do you give a shit? It's not your site."

 

 

Because it's a pain in the ass. It's the only store in the area that sells that things you want, but the clerk is apparently a tool (i've never had dealings) and you never know when they're going to be closed for no reason. 

 

[edit] so it's not down anymore by the time I finished this rant. . . just give it a minute, it will be down again.

 

[PantherXoXTaco]

 

 

[Koko.Hekmatyar]

I've actually reached the apathetic stage with regards to The Nexus and it's MANY glitches.

[Kendo 2]

...you don't like it don't go there then 

Agreed.  A clueless and self-entitled membership base fueled by an incompetent and self-entitled staff, servers that are always down, selling membership info to third parties, a bugged mod manger that is three years old yet in perpetual beta, etc...YEAH, don't go there.

[flutie]

Imagine that, its down again

[MikeMetal]

Oh look, one of those threads again. The day nexus would die many of here would complain, even if by not posting and keeping to theirselves.

 

I hate Nexus, the administration and the generic immature members there, but I'm no blind to realize it's the biggest modding network for Bethesda games and there are hardly any alternatives with so much content. Don't upload mods there if you don't like dealing with their policy. Just download and keep your mouth shut, nothing to worry about injustice or power abusing.

 

You can't download ? Just take a break, I too feel like cursing the living shit out of their network when I'm on a modding spree and it goes down but I go listen to a song, chat a bit, play other things etc until it gets back and resume that again.

[PantherXoXTaco]

You get used to it, after some many times.

 

 

[jonas_opines]

I'm positive that site makes $10s of Ks per month 

 

Are you positive because you have a reasoned opinion, bolstered by available evidence and financial analysis, or are you positive because this is what you believe? 

[Monsto Brukes]

 

I'm positive that site makes $10s of Ks per month 

 

Are you positive because you have a reasoned opinion, bolstered by available evidence and financial analysis, or are you positive because this is what you believe? 

 

 

Experience. Educated opinion.

 

Doesn't matter. the point is that it's a site that is more than financially viable. Therefore, infrastructural problems like these (500s? db timeouts?) are a sign of poor management. 

[Monsto Brukes]

Oh look, one of those threads again. The day nexus would die many of here would complain, even if by not posting and keeping to theirselves.

 

I hate Nexus, the administration and the generic immature members there, but I'm no blind to realize it's the biggest modding network for Bethesda games and there are hardly any alternatives with so much content. Don't upload mods there if you don't like dealing with their policy. Just download and keep your mouth shut, nothing to worry about injustice or power abusing.

 

You can't download ? Just take a break, I too feel like cursing the living shit out of their network when I'm on a modding spree and it goes down but I go listen to a song, chat a bit, play other things etc until it gets back and resume that again.

 

Your words are reasoned and your demeanor is befitting of a gentleman. My ire, however, is steeped in the truth positive that "the shit only goes down at the exact moment that I want to use it."

 

Such as when i'm in the middle of posting somethign to a mod thread. . . Nav to the page, dig around, read some posts, click add reply, type 2 sentences, click post aaannnnddd spin spin spin spin spin spin. If it'd gone down 2 minutes earlier or later, I would have been able to just not care. Go make a sandwich. But instead, there's a hanging sense of "tune in next week".

 

It's like someone flipping channels, they land on an NFL game, and just as the qb throws the ball, they change the channel. going back doesn't help, because the play is over. That moment can never be completed.

 

And it's annoying.

[Kendo 2]

Experience. Educated opinion.

Doesn't matter. the point is that it's a site that is more than financially viable. Therefore, infrastructural problems like these (500s? db timeouts?) are a sign of poor management. 

Net 15 popups payout at around $5.00.  Consider the number of popups people see in an average browsing session at Nexus. Multiply that by the number of non-premium visitors per day.  Go ahead and figure in new premium memberships and the interest on all of it.  Yeah, Nexus runs in the black in every month.

File hosting services are dirt cheap now and Dark0ne has a pack of fools working for FREE (the dumbasses even espouse it, like they are PROUD of being pimped).  It is obvious the money generated by the site isn't going back in to it, but Dark0ne is quick on the draw when it comes to bleating about how poorly Nexus does financially.  Funny that he can afford Sumnmer vacations on an island in Greece every year but Nexus is hurting for funds...uhuh...RIGHT.  

[D_ManXX2]

people are forgetting that nexus users base is over 30.000 users at once. right now loverslab is already struggling if more then 1000 people are viewing here like today or weekends are even worse.

 

Can you imagine if nexus went down and all those 30.000 would come here at once ???

[LaurieNymph]

I've actually reached the apathetic stage with regards to The Nexus and it's MANY glitches.

This.It is what it is.Just got to live with it or hope somewhere down the road another site opens with all the mods they have there.

[Guest]

I feel like the folks who own the nexus, must be new to owning a popular site. 

[Monsto Brukes]

I feel like the folks who own the nexus, must be new to owning a popular site. 

 

Sites like this are not started by experienced people, they're started by fans. With some luck, they grow. With good management, they grow well. Planetquake > Gamespy Network is a great example.

 

with inexperience comes learning opportunity. Make a mistake? take a note, don't do it again. The problem is that these people are crap at identifying mistakes. On the site I owned, the traffic I had (12m pages a day, 100k daily unq, 10k concurrent users... I sold it which is why i have 1k msgs here LOL) was such that I had to keep in mind that 1 users opinion was representative of 1000 people. That pissing on 1 person for crap reasons pissed on 1000 people. That banning people at the drop of a hat, without even the pretense of decorum, hurts growth and gives traction to competition.

 

Even corporate moderation, a team of Filipinos surf the site with scripts, would be better. I wonder if Gamespy has offered to buy it yet. They'd be tons better at the whole thing. 

[Ravana]

I look forward to a day a decent competitor shows up to hold mods for games and act as a good receptacle for them, or for Nexus to come under new management.

 

I admit, I chuckled and finally gave up hope for them when news came out that they realized they were DDoSing themselves with Nexus Mod Manager. And then news came out that they were taking on more load by opening up more mod sites for more games. That just oozed amateur to me, and I laughed and said a silent prayer for the poor bastards who actually pay their hard-earned cash for this garbage.

 

And as far as I'm concerned, Monsto and anyone else who complains has a good right to complain - It's really the only place that anyone can even get mods, short of the Steam Workshop or interpersonal trading, and face it, all the good stuff is only on Nexus. As much as we hate it, we have to put up with it, and we're sure as hell going to bitch about it because it at least makes us feel better. It's no different than any other company doing business like a crapchute despite it's infrastructure size and user base - You sign up for that outfit, and you're gonna get flak for every stupid thing you do. And DDoSing yourself is the ultimate in web stupidity.

[Hentai-chan]

I just stopped reading half-way through. Not that I disagree. Because I'm lazy lol. I get the gist, though. The Nexus having crappy management, I mean. I see a mod update on NMM and say to myself "Let's check it out!" And what do I see? You guessed it: They're doing maintanence. And if they're not the off-chance is that I get an error trying to connect to the server. For that very reason, I can't the topless version of Tsun's Armor.

 

And secondly, what's up with that mods request section? I really think that they made the thread so people won't bother making requests to modder and waste their precious time. It's just stupid, really. I can't really say anything bad about the community purely because I didn't hang around long enough.

 

You ask me, in the short time I've been here, I'd prefer LoversLab to Nexus everytime. Any mod I may want available at any time I want.

 

Note: You might think, it's controversial of me to say such thing to Nexus while using their manager but my using the manager is completely for different reasons.

[Kaz Aanh]

So many people are downloading and refreshing mods/pages at once. So its clear why their website goes offline pretty much often.

 

And also if they have problems with keeping site online why DO they add more "nexus" support to games. Damn logic.

 

Fix this crap nexus. . . oh wait they won't.

[Lagoon0654]

Would be nice if I could login via their mod manager for once, though.

Shits been down for like a week or two for me.

 

Though the program keeps saying my password is wrong which is crap since I can login their site/forums just fine...

...By fine I mean when they're actually running.

 

 

Ah well.

[Vioxsis]

Would be nice if I could login via their mod manager for once, though.

Shits been down for like a week or two for me.

 

Though the program keeps saying my password is wrong which is crap since I can login their site/forums just fine...

...By fine I mean when they're actually running.

 

 

Ah well.

 

You will have to download the new version from nexus, the old one won't connect after the domain change.

I would link you to the download page but its down at the moment....  

[Lagoon0654]

 

Would be nice if I could login via their mod manager for once, though.

Shits been down for like a week or two for me.

 

Though the program keeps saying my password is wrong which is crap since I can login their site/forums just fine...

...By fine I mean when they're actually running.

 

 

Ah well.

 

You will have to download the new version from nexus, the old one won't connect after the domain change.

I would link you to the download page but its down at the moment....

 

wtf I DLed the last version like, two weeks ago..

[RitualClarity]

people are forgetting that nexus users base is over 30.000 users at once. right now loverslab is already struggling if more then 1000 people are viewing here like today or weekends are even worse.

 

Can you imagine if nexus went down and all those 30.000 would come here at once ???

 

I think if Ashal made the money that was generated by the Nexus site would be able to get the services working properly to get the site to a point where it can handle it. ON a side note. LL seems to be running just fine this weekend. No timeouts or other issues. Give Ashal some time and he can fix most all the issues that occur here with the limited funds he gets for this site.

 

Nexus should be ashamed of themselves for having such an unstable system. I would be willing to accept their shortcomings except they continue to expand when they can't handle the current traffic. Not only is that stupid but it is  inexcusable. If you read my other post on banned from Nexus  you will realize that I am very tolerant on their abuses and actions. Indeed most everything they do regardless of the level of quality I am very tolerant. So when I state that they are seriously screwing up with their services that can only hurt themselves in the long run you can understand how serious I take this situation.

 

Nexus. Stop expanding. Fix the dam systems. Stabilize the services. Then move on and improve the other aspects of the site and add features and games. Until you do you are only shooting yourself in the face with a very large shotgun and turning it into a bloody mess. For the love of GOD stop adding services when you full dam well know you don't have the infrastructure to handle it..

[ratrace]

The biggest mistake these Nexus guys could ever have made was introducing the crappy, ever-beta NMM. It promises easy mod installation and uninstallation (but fails on the latter miserably) and, what's most important: It dDoS-es their site (bombing it with requests thus making it unavailable or "just" extremely sluggish - not working login function on the site anyone?). When you fire this codecrap up, it logs on to the Nexus to check for mod updates (and downloads them in case it's configured that way). Additionally to that, the Nexus proprietors seem to have fallen to megalomania and now support "every game" - and cannot even keep their site running as it is now.

 

I've always been patient, it's for free, it's the biggest mod site, takes a lot of work, no one else does that yadayadayada, but I'm running out of patience as well. The Nexus have grown too big, and obvious they bit off more than they can chew. Their servers are offline regularly because they are "working on it" - which may be the case, but apparently this work doesn't do much for the site performance.

 

It all has become annoying. To all the people who say that we all would complain if the Nexus was down forever: Surely. We all would complain if MS Windows would stop working forever as well. That doesn't mean we have to love it and take all shit that's thrown at us. In case of the Nexus I've seldomly experienced such indifference towards the users of the site. There are modders who trusted the Nexus enough to upload their work there sinceits very first days. They and the community (derogatively called "leechers") made the Nexus what it has become. Take both away and the Nexus is a big, puffed up nothing.

 

It becomes more and more a big "fuck you, we don't give a shit". Just like Microsoft or other companies that have grown too big. In that way the Nexus have a quasi-monopoly on mod hosting.

 

Back to NMM: This residue-leaving, game-breaking, site dDoS-ing, malfunctioning pile of code junk should be taken down and buried in the ever growing crippleware cemetary - at least the programmers should remove the mod update function. Those who wish to fuck up their game with it may do so - I'm not judging - but I don't see what is so desirable about keeping people from manually checking for mod updates at the cost of the site performance - apart from the fact that updating mods is not always and in any case first choice. Sometimes an update makes things worse or can screw up your game. To the NMM users: Deactivate that function and check the comment section first and don't be a pathological updater. In fact there is only a handful of mods that I woulld blindly update - the Unofficial Patch series for example.

 

Why the fucking hell do people use mod managers that do not show conflicting files, master file errors etc.? These two functions alone are essential for a working game. With Wrye Bash for example, you can easily merge your favourite texture overhauls together and see which files are replaced by another file, so you can configure everything as you see fit and comfortably create your own texture overhaul out of many replacers.

 

Same with master file errors. Game crashing at startup? Wrye Bash is literally jumping in your face as soon as you look at the esps in the mods tab, should there be an esp with a missing or wrong master oder screwed up master file order. NMM does not, it lets you eat shit. In case of wrong master file order this can be even hazardous to your game sooner or later. The game will start up, but you will run in to problems in the long run.

[Molevalence]

Heh I am a registered member on Nexus and it wont even let me see adult content. Says I have to register again... man its all messed up that website.

[RitualClarity]

 

It dDoS-es their site (bombing it with requests thus making it unavailable or "just" extremely sluggish - not working login function on the site anyone?).When you fire this codecrap up, it logs on to the Nexus to check for mod updates (and downloads them in case it's configured that way).

What the fuck!!!.

 

Who's stupid idea is that. I thought it did it when you told it to. If it does it right off the bat than that has to be the most stupid thing I have heard this year, and I have heard of many stupid things. Many, many stupid things.