ODell22d Posted April 27, 2014 Posted April 27, 2014 I have a question with some trouble I had with my first quest from the master... I got my first quest from the master to deliver a package to Markarth to Hroki I believe and upon getting to the gates of the city there was a small band of thieves The Boss and Brute or something and a mage or something... Anyhow the boss ran up to me and started a dialog asking me if I work for the CD shop and I went with one option and it led to him saying to hand over the package or pay with my life... I stood my ground told him to take it if he can and here is where it went wrong I believe... He did nothing after that nor did his followers the other bandits? He actually started saying "Can I help you? and following me... then he stopped and I went on in and made the delivery but I don't want to miss out on part of this quest so whats the deal here what went wrong can anyone help me figure this out? I'm going to try and mess around with my load order and move it down as far as possible... but no luck so far so please help! Thanks for your time and from what I can tell is a TOP mod one of my favorites at this point
Czium Posted April 27, 2014 Posted April 27, 2014 I also have the fast text issues. Thats usually handled by Fuz Ro Doh isnt it? I installled it and it fixed all my issues. Thanks!
Veladarius Posted April 27, 2014 Author Posted April 27, 2014 is there a all in one esp for the addons? No, I have not made one as some are unp and others are cbbe. If you use Wrye Bash you can create a bashed patch and it can merge them into it and they can be disabled (not uninstalled). I had posted directions on how to do it a while back, it is fairly simple. Here my menu of gaging on ZAZ: For Sound volume or Sound frequency, when i click on it, i slide appears, but even if I move the cursor, nothing changes, stay on 'percent_0'. When i talk to a slave gagged ('Mmmph!" on the dialog) and when i wear a gag (or the both), absolutly no sound. You may want to try reinstalling ZAZ, it looks like it didn't initialize correctly. I have a question with some trouble I had with my first quest from the master... I got my first quest from the master to deliver a package to Markarth to Hroki I believe and upon getting to the gates of the city there was a small band of thieves The Boss and Brute or something and a mage or something... Anyhow the boss ran up to me and started a dialog asking me if I work for the CD shop and I went with one option and it led to him saying to hand over the package or pay with my life... I stood my ground told him to take it if he can and here is where it went wrong I believe... He did nothing after that nor did his followers the other bandits? He actually started saying "Can I help you? and following me... then he stopped and I went on in and made the delivery but I don't want to miss out on part of this quest so whats the deal here what went wrong can anyone help me figure this out? I'm going to try and mess around with my load order and move it down as far as possible... but no luck so far so please help! Thanks for your time and from what I can tell is a TOP mod one of my favorites at this point I have had that happen on occasion, not sure what causes it. The boss is set to be hostile as soon as the dialogue starts.
limonotu Posted April 28, 2014 Posted April 28, 2014 Can you tell me what is and how can i use the ' Capturred Dreams Slave Pen ', 'Master's Chastity Key', 'Master's Key', 'Captured Dreams Entrance','Master's Restraint Key', 'Storage Key' ? So many different key (i don't know if slave pen and entrance are really keys). This works with the stuff 'offering' by the Master, the items of her shop, the global stuff by Devious Device ? For example, thieves steal my delivery, i return to CD shop, Master punish me and Harren send me to a cage in the wild with a complete stuff on me. I struggle, take off the armbinder, picklock the cage, return again to CD shop, steal all the keys in Master's Inventory and....any options on the items to remove it with a key...I can't talk with the gag and i don't know how to return in a normal situation.
Veladarius Posted April 28, 2014 Author Posted April 28, 2014 Can you tell me what is and how can i use the ' Capturred Dreams Slave Pen ', 'Master's Chastity Key', 'Master's Key', 'Captured Dreams Entrance','Master's Restraint Key', 'Storage Key' ? So many different key (i don't know if slave pen and entrance are really keys). This works with the stuff 'offering' by the Master, the items of her shop, the global stuff by Devious Device ? For example, thieves steal my delivery, i return to CD shop, Master punish me and Harren send me to a cage in the wild with a complete stuff on me. I struggle, take off the armbinder, picklock the cage, return again to CD shop, steal all the keys in Master's Inventory and....any options on the items to remove it with a key...I can't talk with the gag and i don't know how to return in a normal situation. The Slave Pen key is for the cage door in the basement where the slaves are kept. Captured Dreams Entrance is the front door key. Master's Key is for some items in her room (not really used at this point). Master's Chastity Key and Masters Restraint Key are for the Custom items. All the items placed on the player at the end of the punishments are standard item from Integration and use the standard Chastity and Restraint keys from it. The gag you will need to remove yourself, the current release doesn't have anything in it to remove them. Everything else can be removed by either speaking with Slave Kara and she will tell you who to speak with about removing the other items.
eric_starbuck Posted April 28, 2014 Posted April 28, 2014 Just a quick question: When I lose the package and get punished and caged. I tried to wait for the guard return the day after but he never comes back. The only option is to get free by myself?
Veladarius Posted April 28, 2014 Author Posted April 28, 2014 Just a quick question: When I lose the package and get punished and caged. I tried to wait for the guard return the day after but he never comes back. The only option is to get free by myself? Yes. You can struggle from the armbinder (TAB key) until you get out. There is a satchel in the back corner of the cage with keys so you can pick the lock once you have the armbinder off.
limonotu Posted April 28, 2014 Posted April 28, 2014 Sorry but this gag has take out all my patience, 20 mins to try all the choice in different order, i left all my lockpicks and just a change whith the spell 'destruction' which tell i'm not accurate enough. Need a clue: should i have to focus on special choice ?
Veladarius Posted April 29, 2014 Author Posted April 29, 2014 Sorry but this gag has take out all my patience, 20 mins to try all the choice in different order, i left all my lockpicks and just a change whith the spell 'destruction' which tell i'm not accurate enough. Need a clue: should i have to focus on special choice ? Gag's require a key to unlock them, that is how they are set up in Integration. If you absolutely need out of it you can use the console to get it, search for Restraint.
Regallag the Perv Posted April 29, 2014 Posted April 29, 2014 Sorry but this gag has take out all my patience, 20 mins to try all the choice in different order, i left all my lockpicks and just a change whith the spell 'destruction' which tell i'm not accurate enough. Need a clue: should i have to focus on special choice ? Check the settings in devious devices MCM menu (note: you can't do this when you have a device on). With the default setting you won't be able to get those things off unless you have REALLY HIGH skill levels. Also DD's MCM has a toggle for people using Sky-Re, make sure it's set properly.
carnifex Posted April 29, 2014 Posted April 29, 2014 Another thing I'd like to see explored in the future is why those bandits are so relentlessly pursuing Master's deliveries. I mean, they clearly aren't your average roadside brigands, as they are clearly more powerful and organized than that. Plus, they know exactly what they're there for. Which is pretty odd given the nature of delivered merchandise - you'd think a well trained, well organized group of thugs would have better ways to make money than stealing something so bizarrely specific as BDSM/chastity fetish accessories. I don't see a large black market existing for stolen bondage gear In all seriousness, I know they're there just so the quest has a believable fail state and the PC can be punished, and I'm fine with that, but it could be interesting to spin that into a quest, possibly one only triggering after a number of failed delivery/reclaiming quests. Maybe there's a competitor trying to undermine Master's business? Or maybe there's a nobleman/woman who's really into this stuff but had offended Master to the point of no longer being welcome in the shop, and is sending those thugs both to get the merchandise for him/herself and to spite the Master?
Veladarius Posted April 29, 2014 Author Posted April 29, 2014 Another thing I'd like to see explored in the future is why those bandits are so relentlessly pursuing Master's deliveries. I mean, they clearly aren't your average roadside brigands, as they are clearly more powerful and organized than that. Plus, they know exactly what they're there for. Which is pretty odd given the nature of delivered merchandise - you'd think a well trained, well organized group of thugs would have better ways to make money than stealing something so bizarrely specific as BDSM/chastity fetish accessories. I don't see a large black market existing for stolen bondage gear In all seriousness, I know they're there just so the quest has a believable fail state and the PC can be punished, and I'm fine with that, but it could be interesting to spin that into a quest, possibly one only triggering after a number of failed delivery/reclaiming quests. Maybe there's a competitor trying to undermine Master's business? Or maybe there's a nobleman/woman who's really into this stuff but had offended Master to the point of no longer being welcome in the shop, and is sending those thugs both to get the merchandise for him/herself and to spite the Master? It is something that I have thought about but haven't really explored yet. Right now they are likely financed by a rival who wants her to leave Skyrim for whatever reason.
eric_starbuck Posted April 29, 2014 Posted April 29, 2014 Just a quick question: When I lose the package and get punished and caged. I tried to wait for the guard return the day after but he never comes back. The only option is to get free by myself? Yes. You can struggle from the armbinder (TAB key) until you get out. There is a satchel in the back corner of the cage with keys so you can pick the lock once you have the armbinder off. Yes, I did this way, but from the dialogue line I thought that the guard would have come after a day if I couldn't set my PG free.
carnifex Posted April 29, 2014 Posted April 29, 2014 Another thing I'd like to see explored in the future is why those bandits are so relentlessly pursuing Master's deliveries. I mean, they clearly aren't your average roadside brigands, as they are clearly more powerful and organized than that. Plus, they know exactly what they're there for. Which is pretty odd given the nature of delivered merchandise - you'd think a well trained, well organized group of thugs would have better ways to make money than stealing something so bizarrely specific as BDSM/chastity fetish accessories. I don't see a large black market existing for stolen bondage gear In all seriousness, I know they're there just so the quest has a believable fail state and the PC can be punished, and I'm fine with that, but it could be interesting to spin that into a quest, possibly one only triggering after a number of failed delivery/reclaiming quests. Maybe there's a competitor trying to undermine Master's business? Or maybe there's a nobleman/woman who's really into this stuff but had offended Master to the point of no longer being welcome in the shop, and is sending those thugs both to get the merchandise for him/herself and to spite the Master? It is something that I have thought about but haven't really explored yet. Right now they are likely financed by a rival who wants her to leave Skyrim for whatever reason. Great minds think alike I can see potential in expanding that, especially for dominant characters - but after a few punishments from the Master, even my submissive girl would probably love to have that rival brought to Master in chains
aqqh Posted April 29, 2014 Posted April 29, 2014 Not that i intend to break your dreams but it was simply discussed earlier Now about those thieves, QUEST IDEA INCOMING: It appears that they have really good intel for a bunch of random thugs. How do they know you're the delivery girl? How do they know what town the package is going to? How do they know when it's being delivered? Maybe one of Master's "servants" is trying to hurt her business, maybe some wizard is magically spying on the shop, maybe there's just someone hiding in the bushes to see who comes and goes. Master must know who's bleeding her dry, and YOU have to find out. Downsides: This really can't be a repeatable quest, it would have a whole lot of stages, and finishing it would make the delivery quest waaaay too easy.
Veladarius Posted April 29, 2014 Author Posted April 29, 2014 Just a quick question: When I lose the package and get punished and caged. I tried to wait for the guard return the day after but he never comes back. The only option is to get free by myself? Yes. You can struggle from the armbinder (TAB key) until you get out. There is a satchel in the back corner of the cage with keys so you can pick the lock once you have the armbinder off. Yes, I did this way, but from the dialogue line I thought that the guard would have come after a day if I couldn't set my PG free. He is supposed to come back and let you out of the cage but sometimes the trigger in the door thinks it has been opened and resets as if you freed yourself.
traveller_phi Posted April 29, 2014 Posted April 29, 2014 He is supposed to come back and let you out of the cage but sometimes the trigger in the door thinks it has been opened and resets as if you freed yourself. READ: Sometimes he just feels lazy and figures you can get your own self out of the cage.
Veladarius Posted April 29, 2014 Author Posted April 29, 2014 He is supposed to come back and let you out of the cage but sometimes the trigger in the door thinks it has been opened and resets as if you freed yourself. READ: Sometimes he just feels lazy and figures you can get your own self out of the cage. It was suggested that I put it in for people that couldn't get free for whatever reason, I was just going to let them rot .
ODell22d Posted April 29, 2014 Posted April 29, 2014 I have a question about when you get punished... I got whipped with a cane and no whip marks appeared on my character... Does this have whip marks like in the prison overhaul? If not it should those are key!
Veladarius Posted April 29, 2014 Author Posted April 29, 2014 I have a question about when you get punished... I got whipped with a cane and no whip marks appeared on my character... Does this have whip marks like in the prison overhaul? If not it should those are key! I think they are from the ZAZ animations, not sure. I am trying to figure out how it is triggered to appear. They are part of the weapon data so it should do it, I will check into it a bit more.
TheOzoneHole Posted April 30, 2014 Posted April 30, 2014 Okay, so I tried out the "failed to retrieve delivery" last night. Overall, it worked just fine; but there are a few things I noticed. 1. Immersive Patrols really screw up the AI for starting the scene, since cheerful charlie seems to think he's a stormcloak and likes killing Imperial soldiers. Master just runs away. 2. Vigilant of Stendar Elites (Better Vampires) who are trying to kill the player for being a werewolf or vampire will simply come up and stand outside the cage and stare at the pc but this makes chuckles run off yelling "A fight! A fight!". Only solution seems to be using the console to kill the Vigilantes. 3. Whip marks, not showing up. (Can we get this as like an overlay or tattoo for RaceMenu? Please?) 4. Power attacks when whipping are trying to knock me off of stone ridge in front of the shop. Didn't notice a problem during the midday punishment, but the night/evening punishment is really a problem. Also, maybe reset the player's location during the fade out rather than just before the whipping starts? 5. Can't move the camera far enough away during the time in the cell at night. Body disappears, which is kind of a pain, might be the way the cage is done. Also, did you set it to start raining during the punishments? It just dumped on my char the second and third day but cleared up not long after she was let go.
Veladarius Posted April 30, 2014 Author Posted April 30, 2014 Okay, so I tried out the "failed to retrieve delivery" last night. Overall, it worked just fine; but there are a few things I noticed. 1. Immersive Patrols really screw up the AI for starting the scene, since cheerful charlie seems to think he's a stormcloak and likes killing Imperial soldiers. Master just runs away. 2. Vigilant of Stendar Elites (Better Vampires) who are trying to kill the player for being a werewolf or vampire will simply come up and stand outside the cage and stare at the pc but this makes chuckles run off yelling "A fight! A fight!". Only solution seems to be using the console to kill the Vigilantes. 3. Whip marks, not showing up. (Can we get this as like an overlay or tattoo for RaceMenu? Please?) 4. Power attacks when whipping are trying to knock me off of stone ridge in front of the shop. Didn't notice a problem during the midday punishment, but the night/evening punishment is really a problem. Also, maybe reset the player's location during the fade out rather than just before the whipping starts? 5. Can't move the camera far enough away during the time in the cell at night. Body disappears, which is kind of a pain, might be the way the cage is done. Also, did you set it to start raining during the punishments? It just dumped on my char the second and third day but cleared up not long after she was let go. 1. The NPC's in the shop only use custom factions, they have no affiliations with the Imperials, stormcloaks or anyone else. 2. I have not run into the Vigilant's around the shop, they are likely set as random road encounters. 3. The whip marks are part of the cane from the ZAZ Animations and should be applied by it, I am not sure why it isn't since I have made no changes to the weapon. The only thing I can think of is that I have the whipping set to do no damage so it doesn't make the marks. If it was set to do damage and Herran pulls out a real weapon most players would be dead pretty quick. 4. I use the SetVehicle command to keep the player in position. It works in some scenes and not in others but it is applied the same way and at the same point. Still trying to fix this. 5. Since the cage is considered a solid object the camera can't move back far enough. I did not set any weather to happen at any point.
TheOzoneHole Posted April 30, 2014 Posted April 30, 2014 I don't know what caused Herran to join the Imperial/Stormcloak murder party, but he drew sword and ran off. And since it was the stormcloaks who walked away...? The VoSEs show up at random, it isn't anything to do with CDS, just an fyi that, since they are there to kill the player, Herran will run off but the Vigil won't/didn't actually do anything. And here I thought that you just wanted to torture my char some more by making it rain all over her all the time.
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