Devious Devices - Captured Dreams Shop v4.15 - files removed

[Douma]

I love the updates (and the mod in general). Impressive work!

 

Though I seem to be having a problem with the embassy quest. I went in, past the chapter with Elenwen, then I got used by the guards and spend the next night in the cell. But the next morning, when I am supposed to "try new furniture", I got stuck in an endless loop where the thalmor assistant just keeps doing the animation of handling me more things but nothing happens. And it stays there with nothing else occurring.

 

I tried to move around by forcing human control on the Zaz menu, and it appears to be some problem with the furniture, because I can seem to interact with any of it. And as a matter of fact, the scen gets stuck with my character right in front of the wooden rack.

 

Any ideas what the problem could be? I have the latest updates of everything.

 

Thanks!

Edited October 19, 2014 by Douma

[big tim]

 

Had the bandits show up, Boss wanted my delivery, said NO and he walked away.

EXPQuest01, used the 600 stage and up, no quest markers. Master's dialog still stops, Jarl reference None.

Thanks

 

The jarl reference is probably what is causing the issue. since there isn't a scene for Dengeir setting the global should work:

Set CDxEQ01jarl to 2

 

That should let the dialogue for Dengeir to be used.

 

 

Thanks, I will try it now. Haven't got to the second quest but love what I see so far.  Well thought out.

I thought I had screwed up the 2nd delivery but it seems it is planned to make you ask again and get cuffs for not listening.

[formanfred]

Hi Vel; thank you for this update I am amazed at how much content there is , I had a problem with things not starting using a game save from using version 2.82 so I reinstalled skyrim and everything works a lot better,thank you again for all your hard work and your testers  also.

[Veladarius]

how much do i need to wait for Elisif to reconsider in quest 3? i have waited 3 hours at a time for several in game days and it gives me the option to talk with her after each 3 hour wait but its the same dialogue of she needs more time to think

 

Likely you don't have the speechcraft skill to convince her. It uses a combination of your speechcraft, some dialogue choices (a +20 to -5), your relationship rank (+20 per rank) and a bit of randomness (+/- 15) that is combined to come up with a value, if it is greater than 75 then it will continue.

 

 

Had the bandits show up, Boss wanted my delivery, said NO and he walked away.

EXPQuest01, used the 600 stage and up, no quest markers. Master's dialog still stops, Jarl reference None.

Thanks

 

Bandits not acting correctly is probably leftover AI behavior from a previous version, they are very difficult to get them to change.

 

 

With an existing game, the bandits don't seem to exist(?) at all. Like someone mentioned, they didn't show up, and I was seeing errors about them being none when they were trying to be moved with MoveTo(). I don't have the specific log anymore though, too many game restarts testing other stuff.

 

Also:

 

 

Not sure if this was mentioned somewhere, but after spending the first night in the Thalmor Embassy basement, Elenwen comes to let the PC out of the cell, but doesn't actually open the door. Last thing that happens is the "you're gonna have a busy day" line, after that she just stands there doing nothing.

 

 

 

The bandits are handled almost entirely through their aliases. When bandits are not being used the aliases are cleared so they don't try to show up when they should not (had that happen), when the delivery starts the bandits are forced into the aliases and moved but only the active bandits should be moved (should not attempt to move unused ailases). As it is, the aliases allow them to be dead, disabled or optional (needed since they are not filled initially) so they should fill with no issues. While aliases and I get along a bit better it is still a love / hate relationship on both sides (lots of begging, pleading and threatening).

[Veladarius]

 

 

Had the bandits show up, Boss wanted my delivery, said NO and he walked away.

EXPQuest01, used the 600 stage and up, no quest markers. Master's dialog still stops, Jarl reference None.

Thanks

 

The jarl reference is probably what is causing the issue. since there isn't a scene for Dengeir setting the global should work:

Set CDxEQ01jarl to 2

 

That should let the dialogue for Dengeir to be used.

 

 

Thanks, I will try it now. Haven't got to the second quest but love what I see so far.  Well thought out.

I thought I had screwed up the 2nd delivery but it seems it is planned to make you ask again and get cuffs for not listening.

 

 

You should not have to get the cuffs but if there is a delay in the scripts it can drop you out of the dialogue.

 

Hi Vel; thank you for this update I am amazed at how much content there is , I had a problem with things not starting using a game save from using version 2.82 so I reinstalled skyrim and everything works a lot better,thank you again for all your hard work and your testers  also.

 

Some parts seem to work better on a new game as there are a lot of things that don't like to change. I replaced things with new items instead of changing them wherever I could as that worked better but it was not possible in every case.

[Mignonette]

At the testing furniture scene, when she says in you go after putting on the blindfold, nothing happens and everyone just stands there, while one of them occasionally makes the animation to hand something over.

[Veladarius]

At the testing furniture scene, when she says in you go after putting on the blindfold, nothing happens and everyone just stands there, while one of them occasionally makes the animation to hand something over.

 

Check your log for errors, there is likely something slowing down or stopping the scripts.

[mendalion]

why do i have to always start quests with setstage CDxExpQuest0x?

I started the first one like that, now I wonder if I have to start others because of that, and if I can fix it at this point. I certanly don't wanna start it over.

[badbat111]

no just get to level 8 then the grounds will start to change

[mendalion]

I didn't say that grounds don't change. Quests don't start on their own. And why ppl keep talking about those levels? There are no levels in the ledger.

I auto started quest 3 now, and there is a mine and ppl walking inside and outside it. That looks normal.

 

And that freaking free trial quest ruins everything. Its about 3 weeks past, and that bitch won't remove them. I like the idea, but can we have an mcm option to make it not last for eternity?? I'm not into that if you don't even know if they will be removed, and it breaks with assist customer, and other remove and equip quests. So u can have free trial quest active, and have nothing equiped.

[Verstort]

3.1 Moderate bug: Haron Herran never shows up

 

After failing a delivery quest, my character is punished and left in the cage but haron never shows up.

 

Waited 24 hours, character locked and I got the "Haron is coming to release me" or similar message but waiting 5 minutes shows nothing, tried sleeping or using the wait function, nothing happened.

 

Background: character has rank > 13 with all parties, disposition 15, eradi is slave in my house

 

There's no quest in my log for this event, never bothered to check before. If it's a quest, with stages, what's the name so i can look up the stages before and after the haron message?

 

Pap log of crashless run where I start the save at the autosave before the first sleep, sleep 24 hours, get the message, then sleep 24 hours. LL won't let me attach files for some reason

 

Pap log 1 is from quick test, loading from autosave right before first sleep, 24 hour sleep, then second 24 hour sleep. Pap log 2 is from second attempt, waiting in game after the Herran is coming message, then sleeping until > 48 hours, no Herran on the horizon.

 

 

[NarcosisElemental]

Hmm..Think I found something that nobody else has reported. Everything works like a charm for me untill the Embassy quests where the Thalmor get either Bath Salt fever or all go psychotic. During the scenes where the AI controls my character the Thalmor Soldiers..all of them except for the female ones go into some sort of Testosterone Induced rage and start fighting each other. Funny to watch the first time because none of them actually die. Has to console "KillAll" and ressurect them all..but then the scripts for what they are suppose to do don't work anymore. I don't know if it is the Overhaul mod (Requiem) I am using or what. That is the only mod that would alter enemies/friendly AI's that I have installed. Going to try to do a vanilla run through since Requiem really doesn't do anything interesting that Deadly Dragons/Deadly Monsters can't do.

[Veladarius]

I didn't say that grounds don't change. Quests don't start on their own. And why ppl keep talking about those levels? There are no levels in the ledger.

I auto started quest 3 now, and there is a mine and ppl walking inside and outside it. That looks normal.

 

And that freaking free trial quest ruins everything. Its about 3 weeks past, and that bitch won't remove them. I like the idea, but can we have an mcm option to make it not last for eternity?? I'm not into that if you don't even know if they will be removed, and it breaks with assist customer, and other remove and equip quests. So u can have free trial quest active, and have nothing equiped.

 

These are the values that go with what is in the ledger:

relationship with Master - CDxRankMaster

1-4 Bad, 5-7 Poor, 8-12 Average, 13-16 Good, 17-20 Excellent

 

Submissive/Dominant - CDxPlayerDisposition

1-4 Submissive, 5-7 mildly submissive, 8-12 average, 13-16 mildly dom, 17-20 dom

 

The quests during the expansion do not start immediately, the first is about 5 days in and the second is several days after that. The first quest should be triggered the day before the mine shows up, you should receive a letter by courier.

 

This script will correct a few issues with the trigger, there were some settings that should have released the player but didn't.

FT Trigger.zip    just extract it to the data folder.

 

To get the items off, make sure your disposition is 5 or higher (still a 20% chance she won't let you out)

If you don'e want to wait then use the reset in the MCM menu and it will remove everything, you can also disable it if you want once it is reset.

 

 

3.1 Moderate bug: Haron Herran never shows up

 

After failing a delivery quest, my character is punished and left in the cage but haron never shows up.

 

Waited 24 hours, character locked and I got the "Haron is coming to release me" or similar message but waiting 5 minutes shows nothing, tried sleeping or using the wait function, nothing happened.

 

Background: character has rank > 13 with all parties, disposition 15, eradi is slave in my house

 

There's no quest in my log for this event, never bothered to check before. If it's a quest, with stages, what's the name so i can look up the stages before and after the haron message?

 

Pap log of crashless run where I start the save at the autosave before the first sleep, sleep 24 hours, get the message, then sleep 24 hours. LL won't let me attach files for some reason

 

Pap log 1 is from quick test, loading from autosave right before first sleep, 24 hour sleep, then second 24 hour sleep. Pap log 2 is from second attempt, waiting in game after the Herran is coming message, then sleeping until > 48 hours, no Herran on the horizon.

 

If you don't see the quest any longer then it has cleared. One of the other AI packages may be interfering with him showing up for some reason though he would show up during my testing. You should be able to remove the armbinder and unlock the door yourself though (intended way of getting out, Herran was a failsafe).

 

 

Hmm..Think I found something that nobody else has reported. Everything works like a charm for me untill the Embassy quests where the Thalmor get either Bath Salt fever or all go psychotic. During the scenes where the AI controls my character the Thalmor Soldiers..all of them except for the female ones go into some sort of Testosterone Induced rage and start fighting each other. Funny to watch the first time because none of them actually die. Has to console "KillAll" and ressurect them all..but then the scripts for what they are suppose to do don't work anymore. I don't know if it is the Overhaul mod (Requiem) I am using or what. That is the only mod that would alter enemies/friendly AI's that I have installed. Going to try to do a vanilla run through since Requiem really doesn't do anything interesting that Deadly Dragons/Deadly Monsters can't do.

 

Them starting to fight is rather odd as they are all custom and are only in the Captured Dreams factions (if any). All the npc's used in the shop and inside the embassy are custom.

[Mignonette]

Alrighty fixed my stuff after resetting animation registry and reloading.

[mendalion]

De'zra doesn't move after saying: "There follow me I'll get you settled" in the 4th quest.

She was outside house at the back of it, to the left of the mines.

One of the entries to the Manor was corrupted, specifically the stairs. The main arc of the Shop was in the air.

 

[jordisslave]

Have narrowed down the paralysis problem that no-one else is having:

 

If I put on any CD collar while in the shop then I just get repeated paralysis effects that don't stop.  Any ideas?  Anyone?

[Verstort]

 

3.1 Moderate bug: Haron Herran never shows up

 

After failing a delivery quest, my character is punished and left in the cage but haron never shows up.

 

Waited 24 hours, character locked and I got the "Haron is coming to release me" or similar message but waiting 5 minutes shows nothing, tried sleeping or using the wait function, nothing happened.

 

Background: character has rank > 13 with all parties, disposition 15, eradi is slave in my house

 

There's no quest in my log for this event, never bothered to check before. If it's a quest, with stages, what's the name so i can look up the stages before and after the haron message?

 

Pap log of crashless run where I start the save at the autosave before the first sleep, sleep 24 hours, get the message, then sleep 24 hours. LL won't let me attach files for some reason

 

Pap log 1 is from quick test, loading from autosave right before first sleep, 24 hour sleep, then second 24 hour sleep. Pap log 2 is from second attempt, waiting in game after the Herran is coming message, then sleeping until > 48 hours, no Herran on the horizon.

 

If you don't see the quest any longer then it has cleared. One of the other AI packages may be interfering with him showing up for some reason though he would show up during my testing. You should be able to remove the armbinder and unlock the door yourself though (intended way of getting out, Herran was a failsafe).

 

I went back to try escaping and got the nifty idea of trying to intentionally get caught with one of my followers so that I might see if they got suspended from the ceiling, but I ran into an issue.

 

I just tried at least 7 delivery quests, all with 100% bandit chance, and only the last one had bandits. It was the same spot I got caught at last time: Morthal.

 

I wasn't paying attention earlier when people were trying to figure out why they weren't getting bandits, but maybe only certain areas have issues?

 

To be clear, since I was trying to get caught, but wanted to do so quickly, I would fast travel to a spot close to the delivery but not on top of it, 2-3 fast travels away and outside of a city for instance. None showed up the +3 times I was told to go deliver in Solitude, once in whiterun, twice in markarth.

 

 

[carnifex]

Wow, the Thalmor embassy quest was massive.

 

The game crashed on me a few times but I'm almost certain it wasn't related to your mod, just my Skyrim working as usual.

 

Thanks for the great mod!

[wooaa]

Hi. Amazing mod, just one small problem. After the thalmor embassy, i seem to be stuck with an invisible ( does not show up on inventory) vaginal peicsing, is their any way to use the console to forcibly remove this invisible tormentor? 

[justbob2]

I have a question and a suggestion regarding the "Surprise" after the 4th Quest:

 

SPOILER:

First, the question: After being given the task as Erani's caretaker, I can't find her anywhere in the complex!? Is there a specific place she goes to wait for me?

And for the suggestion: I have been playing as submissive as possible in an attempt to become an "official" slave of the Master. As such, being tasked to be a "master" to another slave does not seem to be in character. Conversely, if you are playing a more dominant path, this job is a perfect reward.

 

Perhaps you could use the (Submissive/Dominant - CDxPlayerDisposition) trait you described above to determine whether or not you get this caretaker task.  Or, you could give the submissive player the option to refuse this quest, prompting the Master to formally enslave the player as a result. (then make Erani HER caretaker!)

 

[Veladarius]

De'zra doesn't move after saying: "There follow me I'll get you settled" in the 4th quest.

She was outside house at the back of it, to the left of the mines.

One of the entries to the Manor was corrupted, specifically the stairs. The main arc of the Shop was in the air.

 

If the expansion is done (should be by that point, CDxExpMain at stage 475) you can set CDxExpMain to 980 and it will enable all the parts of the expansion. Also, if you wait she should move automatically.

 

 

Have narrowed down the paralysis problem that no-one else is having:

 

If I put on any CD collar while in the shop then I just get repeated paralysis effects that don't stop.  Any ideas?  Anyone?

 

The effect on the collar happens if you do something that is considered an attack on the Master, either by spell, ranged weapon or melee. More than likely something from another mod is doing something to trigger it. Probably the easiest way to disable it is to remove the scripts CDxMasterHit and CDxSlaveHit, those are the scripts that are doing it.

 

 

 

 

3.1 Moderate bug: Haron Herran never shows up

 

After failing a delivery quest, my character is punished and left in the cage but haron never shows up.

 

Waited 24 hours, character locked and I got the "Haron is coming to release me" or similar message but waiting 5 minutes shows nothing, tried sleeping or using the wait function, nothing happened.

 

Background: character has rank > 13 with all parties, disposition 15, eradi is slave in my house

 

There's no quest in my log for this event, never bothered to check before. If it's a quest, with stages, what's the name so i can look up the stages before and after the haron message?

 

Pap log of crashless run where I start the save at the autosave before the first sleep, sleep 24 hours, get the message, then sleep 24 hours. LL won't let me attach files for some reason

 

Pap log 1 is from quick test, loading from autosave right before first sleep, 24 hour sleep, then second 24 hour sleep. Pap log 2 is from second attempt, waiting in game after the Herran is coming message, then sleeping until > 48 hours, no Herran on the horizon.

 

If you don't see the quest any longer then it has cleared. One of the other AI packages may be interfering with him showing up for some reason though he would show up during my testing. You should be able to remove the armbinder and unlock the door yourself though (intended way of getting out, Herran was a failsafe).

 

I went back to try escaping and got the nifty idea of trying to intentionally get caught with one of my followers so that I might see if they got suspended from the ceiling, but I ran into an issue.

 

I just tried at least 7 delivery quests, all with 100% bandit chance, and only the last one had bandits. It was the same spot I got caught at last time: Morthal.

 

I wasn't paying attention earlier when people were trying to figure out why they weren't getting bandits, but maybe only certain areas have issues?

 

To be clear, since I was trying to get caught, but wanted to do so quickly, I would fast travel to a spot close to the delivery but not on top of it, 2-3 fast travels away and outside of a city for instance. None showed up the +3 times I was told to go deliver in Solitude, once in whiterun, twice in markarth.

 

 

Was this updated on an existing game and not a new game? It seems that on an existing game the bandit's AI is retaining some of the original AI package and does not want to release it. The only idea I have at this point is to make new bandits are replace the ones in the quest with them (also means I have to rebuild a number of parts as I will need new script properties and a few other things) but I have no idea if that will work either.

[badbat111]

the npc in the thalmore quest was they real npc or custom made ? if its the real npc then it might be why people have had troubles since there normal dispotion and stuff might be effecting the scripts

[Mignonette]

The 3rd quest seems to be giving me problems. I accepted the quest and all but I don't have a quest marker and such. I've tried going to her anyways but she just gives me her normal dialogue. 

[Verstort]

Hi. Amazing mod, just one small problem. After the thalmor embassy, i seem to be stuck with an invisible ( does not show up on inventory) vaginal peicsing, is their any way to use the console to forcibly remove this invisible tormentor? 

 

Move most of your other gear into a chest or something before starting this, save too.

 

Two solutions:

 

 

 

From console ( ~ ), click on your character and type "inv" or "showinventory"

 

Use page up and page down to view the whole list

 

You're looking for invalid items, items with bad references that say "worn" on the right of them.

 

type "player.removeitem <id> <quantity>" where quantity can be 1 or any number if you think you have more than one. I often put in 10, since nothing bad happens if you try to remove too many.

 

Taking off and moving the rest of your gear helps narrow the list, and helps keep you from deleting other items that you want that have bad refs normally.

 

 

 

Second solution:

 

 

 

After putting away EVERYTHING you can, add one chastity key and one restraints key to your character, you can use "help chastity" to find the reference to the key and use "player.additem <id> <quantity>" to get one if you don't have one already.

 

Beware, in some DD complaint mods have added FAKE keys, if the key doesn't remove items, or it has a different load order, first two numbers on the left of the ID, than DD and DDexpansion items, it might be a fake, which won't work for this trick.

 

Once you have put all of your gear away, and you have one of each key type:

"player.unequipall" or "unequipall" followed by

"player.removeallitems" or "removeallitems"

 

This removes everything except quest items, the keys are necessary for unequipall, since it uses the same system that checks for keys as part of DD

 

The keys are removed too.

 

 

 

 

If these don't work, revert save :/

[Veladarius]

the npc in the thalmore quest was they real npc or custom made ? if its the real npc then it might be why people have had troubles since there normal dispotion and stuff might be effecting the scripts

 

They are all custom or copies, all the original factions and such have been removed.

 

 

The 3rd quest seems to be giving me problems. I accepted the quest and all but I don't have a quest marker and such. I've tried going to her anyways but she just gives me her normal dialogue. 

 

v3.1 should have fixed that, make sure that CDxExpQuest03 is at stage 50 otherwise you may have dropped out of the dialogue with the Master early.