limonotu Posted October 18, 2014 Posted October 18, 2014 Another issu from me, sry: the Travish's quest never begin with this new version. The Master says me at every discuss with her a date when M.Tavish will coming. But the text of the quest which appear give me another date (for exemple, Master says 1st of this month and the quest the 10th). Maybe because I update during the waiting of another visit of Tavish (the quest was in my list). But for both, nothing appens, Master continues to indicate me the date at every beginning of dialog with her even if I outdate the two dates. Maybe i need to clean my save from the mod, but when i tried, a empty menu in MCM still and nothing is reset when I reinstall (I tried 'restart quest' in MCM but seem don't work whith me...) A small problem that increased my impatience to test the new content. Thank you infinitely for this update ! PS, don't forget to rest your eyes after reading this message, sorry for this grammatical barbarism moment...
arrow72 Posted October 18, 2014 Posted October 18, 2014 Awesome work Vel! And judging by the past pages.... you did right in not releasing earlier lol
Veladarius Posted October 18, 2014 Author Posted October 18, 2014 @ Veladarius Something seems to be wrong with the dialogue setup. On a delivery to Haelga I accidentally tabbed out of the conversation and when I tried to go back to it the delivery topic was gone. The QnA Time topic is gone as well after several days have passed. It used to be that the topic was available every 24 hours. Did that change? I tried to get the QnA with De'Zra but it wasn't there, and when I tried to ask her a question the dialogue immediately shut down. These are all subsequent to the new esp you provided but it wouldn't be surprising if they were in the original esp as well. The next two items aren't bugs (I think) but: What do I have to do to get a tip on a delivery job? Fast traveling to the destination is about as fast as I can get to a customer. Also, the customers say I don't look like a courier, even if I'm stripped down to just DD stuff. Based on the attire of the dead couriers I've found, it would appear I'm the only one who has to do deliveries with CD stuff locked on, so maybe I really don't look like a courier! Maybe I'll wear fur armor on the next delivery. I will double check the dialogue, De'Zra didn't have much of a change in hers though so I am not sure why there would be an issue. What triggers the expansion buildings getting built? The men are out there working by camps, but its been a while and nothing has been done. For the Expansion of the grounds, once you hit level 8 (or if already level 8 visit the shop or gain a new level) it will start. The first few days you will see some guys behind the shop camping, they are removing trees and brush. After a few days the Mine entrance will appear then the new Smithy and the men will start clearing the side and front areas. The barracks is the next to be built then various landscaping then the Manor and last is the VIP house. The 4 quests are also scattered around in there and construction pauses until those are done (it will restart on quest 2 after a day). Overall there are about 18 stages and it advances 1 stage per day so it will take a while before it is done. 3.0 Major bug : Sticking Scenes and Jail door ajar, not easy replicable with some added minor bugs Spoilers: Elwyn scenes are volatile, I got stuck between the two elewyn sex scenes, characters wouldn't move, no conversation, just stuck staring at each other. Quick load and wait did nothing. This bug wasn't replicable though, I got past it twice. However, once you get taken down to the cell, and you choose to continue, you wake up and nothing happens, elewyn gets stuck under the stairs and time to reload and hope the scene doesn't freeze again. I was able to leave the jail cell without tlc because there is a gap between where the door is and where it should be, it seems to be placed 1ft inside of the cell instead of between the walls. The gap was wide enough I was able to run around it, and enter the rest of the room, where I could talk to the bugged Elwyn with gag mod effects. Additional minor bugs: The idle animation for the player during the Elwyn introduction isn't the standard animation, it looks like the city guard animation? The smith, or her sister, can be found walking around outside, which is fine, but her default dialog makes no sense in this context. Images: https://imgur.com/a/6T3C1 Papyrus added for good measure. I have done everything I can for the AI pathfinding to not screw things up including making preferred pathing in many interiors. As I have found, you can save during any of the scenes (except during sex or having items added/removed) with no problems so I recommend it (and often on quest 2 of the expansion) As for the door, it is a game engine issue not the placement. Here is a view of the cell from the CK: I have had issues where it seemed like the door was in the cell (invisible barrier) but it was still in its proper place. Got through the second quest just fine (amazing!). Third quest starts okay, but once the Master gives me the items nothing happens. Quest marker doesn't update, and going to the indicated target doesn't do anything. Have to repeat that the second quest was freaking well done, though. That is the issue that one of the testers had but could not tell what was causing the issue. The quest should give you the items at stage 20 then set to 50 and update the objective. If you (or anyone else having the issue) can do this and tell me if elisif's Alias is filled or says none: sqv cdxExpQuest02 3.0 Mild bug: Dialog loop possible spoiler warning: When taking the second master's request to the embassy, if you choose the ... option instead of "yes, master" she snaps at you to pay attention, but the dialog option that comes up after that doesn't include anything but "...", so it not only loops infinitely, but doesn't give you the option to leave the loop. However, if you leave the dialog, and re-initiate dialog with master, the "yes, master" option comes back. In my case I had to reload a save to get the dialogue back. @ Veladarius: I reset and disabled the Free Trial. My inventory is clear of all the items Master put on but the Chastity Belt quest is still active. Master also continues to force greet the Free Trial opening dialogue. In this case tabbing out of that dialogue removes it from the topic list and I can start the dialogue for the tasks Master sends by courier. Hopefully that made sense. For the free trial, if you want to disable it reset it then set it to disabled. The variable used to set it to disabled is used for other things as well and is being set to the default value on reset. excuse me i already asked 3 times and got ignored. Since i am having troubles with the mod could anybody tell me how to start the new quests please? I have only delivery (not working) and recover. And i also have the old buildings and nothing new. i got a letter from the master in my inventory after i opened it it got a new job I don t have any but i can add them via console to start the quest. Wich one is? is "a task for master" the first one? The first quest starts a few days after the expansion begins, it is not immediately available (stage 125 of CDxExpMain) For anyone getting stuck at the cell door on the second quest, typing following into console seems to work to skip the problem spot. setstage cdxexpstage02 215 The quest stage seems to be getting stuck on 210, and the following 212 -> 215 stages aren't clearing. 215 makes her open the cage door and continue the questsline however. NO! Check your quest journal. You have to sit on that chair in the cell. For whatever reason sitting on that chair triggers the next quest stage. The chair and bed will act as an activator, once placed in the cell you are given free control so it makes a good place to save and stop if need be. When it is ready to advance if you put your cursor over one of them to activate them (bed for night, chair for day) it will say "Activate to continue"
Kimy Posted October 18, 2014 Posted October 18, 2014 I am getting the old shop too, even when starting a new game. Odd...the resources for this should no longer be there, no? Is there any workaround for this? the new shop doesnt appear until you get to level 8 and do her quests (it also takes a number of days between each quest) Haha, and I already was wondering what Skyrim magic was at work here to preserve old game assets in my installation.
Veladarius Posted October 18, 2014 Author Posted October 18, 2014 Another issu from me, sry: the Travish's quest never begin with this new version. The Master says me at every discuss with her a date when M.Tavish will coming. But the text of the quest which appear give me another date (for exemple, Master says 1st of this month and the quest the 10th). Maybe because I update during the waiting of another visit of Tavish (the quest was in my list). But for both, nothing appens, Master continues to indicate me the date at every beginning of dialog with her even if I outdate the two dates. Maybe i need to clean my save from the mod, but when i tried, a empty menu in MCM still and nothing is reset when I reinstall (I tried 'restart quest' in MCM but seem don't work whith me...) A small problem that increased my impatience to test the new content. Thank you infinitely for this update ! PS, don't forget to rest your eyes after reading this message, sorry for this grammatical barbarism moment... Check the variable for the return month: help CDxAssistCustStartMonth (you don't need to type it all in but the more you do the less other things show up) If it is 12 or higher set it to the current or next month if past the date (help gamemonth will give you the current month)
dsfargeg222 Posted October 18, 2014 Posted October 18, 2014 Had to start a new game, old one got stuck in an infinite Tavish is coming on day x loop. New game I've done 8 errands and relationship with master seems stuck at average. The only thing that seems to happen is the free trial which happens far too often for my tastes. Character is now also level 8, but apart from a few gentlemen appearing behind the shop, nothing seems to happen. The only courier deliveries that has happened is the ads, which is always delivered 3 times for some reason.
zouzou Posted October 18, 2014 Posted October 18, 2014 Hi Veladarius, thx for the update, this mode keep getting better and better. On question, how can I get my follower free? I failed on delivery quest (before strt bulding the expension) and I never get dialogue to free her. On other thing, my other follower (I used AFT) is still free (but I used to that, most of mode don't work well with AFT).
limonotu Posted October 18, 2014 Posted October 18, 2014 Check the variable for the return month: help CDxAssistCustStartMonth (you don't need to type it all in but the more you do the less other things show up) If it is 12 or higher set it to the current or next month if past the date (help gamemonth will give you the current month) Well, I write "help CDxAssistCustStartMonth" in the consol just after the Master gave me the quest (appaers in quest menu) and for "Global Variable", CDxAssistCustStartMonth=0.00.... I think it's a problem... For "help gamemonth", it says me '11' for the global variable. And Master still agress me with her "M.Tavish will be returning and have requested another session with you." at the beggining of every speech with her. Maybe it's new dialogs to don't forget the date, but I interpret it as a bug right now. Again, She says me he's here for the 1st of the month, the quest menu says 10th. And I want for a small question: for example, when i was punished on the precedent version to was late for the rendez-vous with Tavish, the Master locked me in belt, bra and cuffs. But when I leave the cell at the morning and pay my debt to her, I keep the cuffs on me. Isn't DD Captured Dreams Items ?
flim Posted October 18, 2014 Posted October 18, 2014 Something to highlight. I think before this happen, I chose 2nd option before, "yes, master". master mention something to try the device and in the end, the female character get lock up in full gear (without armbinder and gag etc) and said she will be free in a week. some day later, I select another delivery quest. I not know what I did. delivery quest is completed but when return to master, she took the receipt but quest is not shown complete and character is in full gear. so keep selecting " I finish that job" option but nothing change. character is still in full gear, quest is still shown not complete. Do you think that previous option is interrupting the complete quest command? just my thought
gooberboy9999 Posted October 18, 2014 Posted October 18, 2014 Do errands, about 6 should do (so long as you succeed on them all) and then head to a major city to find a story-quest Courier. They'll come running up to you and hand you a note from Master. You read it, and are given a quest to go talk to her. Ha, I feel like a moron. This was probably my problem. I just assumed those notes were the standard ones you get (the ads fort the shop) and never read them.
Veladarius Posted October 18, 2014 Author Posted October 18, 2014 Check the variable for the return month: help CDxAssistCustStartMonth (you don't need to type it all in but the more you do the less other things show up) If it is 12 or higher set it to the current or next month if past the date (help gamemonth will give you the current month) Well, I write "help CDxAssistCustStartMonth" in the consol just after the Master gave me the quest (appaers in quest menu) and for "Global Variable", CDxAssistCustStartMonth=0.00.... I think it's a problem... For "help gamemonth", it says me '11' for the global variable. And Master still agress me with her "M.Tavish will be returning and have requested another session with you." at the beggining of every speech with her. Maybe it's new dialogs to don't forget the date, but I interpret it as a bug right now. Again, She says me he's here for the 1st of the month, the quest menu says 10th. And I want for a small question: for example, when i was punished on the precedent version to was late for the rendez-vous with Tavish, the Master locked me in belt, bra and cuffs. But when I leave the cell at the morning and pay my debt to her, I keep the cuffs on me. Isn't DD Captured Dreams Items ? I think it is just the dialogue repeating, the month number is correct as they are numbered 0 - 11 Something to highlight. I think before this happen, I chose 2nd option before, "yes, master". master mention something to try the device and in the end, the female character get lock up in full gear (without armbinder and gag etc) and said she will be free in a week. some day later, I select another delivery quest. I not know what I did. delivery quest is completed but when return to master, she took the receipt but quest is not shown complete and character is in full gear. so keep selecting " I finish that job" option but nothing change. character is still in full gear, quest is still shown not complete. Do you think that previous option is interrupting the complete quest command? just my thought I uploaded an esp a little ways back that should correct that.
Veladarius Posted October 18, 2014 Author Posted October 18, 2014 I found the issue with the Free Trial firing off so quickly. If you want to disable it for a while do the following: set cdxFTRelStatus to 7 that should keep it from triggering, resetting the quest should enable it again.
Veladarius Posted October 18, 2014 Author Posted October 18, 2014 Check the variable for the return month: help CDxAssistCustStartMonth (you don't need to type it all in but the more you do the less other things show up) If it is 12 or higher set it to the current or next month if past the date (help gamemonth will give you the current month) Well, I write "help CDxAssistCustStartMonth" in the consol just after the Master gave me the quest (appaers in quest menu) and for "Global Variable", CDxAssistCustStartMonth=0.00.... I think it's a problem... For "help gamemonth", it says me '11' for the global variable. And Master still agress me with her "M.Tavish will be returning and have requested another session with you." at the beggining of every speech with her. Maybe it's new dialogs to don't forget the date, but I interpret it as a bug right now. Again, She says me he's here for the 1st of the month, the quest menu says 10th. And I want for a small question: for example, when i was punished on the precedent version to was late for the rendez-vous with Tavish, the Master locked me in belt, bra and cuffs. But when I leave the cell at the morning and pay my debt to her, I keep the cuffs on me. Isn't DD Captured Dreams Items ? The cuffs and gag used in the scene should be standard ones. If the standard ones were replaced at the end with CD ones then those are likely custom keyed ones but should have been removed when you paid off the debt (all CD items should be removed then).
limonotu Posted October 18, 2014 Posted October 18, 2014 I think it is just the dialogue repeating, the month number is correct as they are numbered 0 - 11 So I might understand it as I need to return to the shop between the beginning of the month and the 11th ? Sry but I don't understand how to interpret those numbers, and the two different dates are unclear, and Tavish is always very late.
Veladarius Posted October 18, 2014 Author Posted October 18, 2014 Do errands, about 6 should do (so long as you succeed on them all) and then head to a major city to find a story-quest Courier. They'll come running up to you and hand you a note from Master. You read it, and are given a quest to go talk to her. Ha, I feel like a moron. This was probably my problem. I just assumed those notes were the standard ones you get (the ads fort the shop) and never read them. Quest related notes should have an objective saying to read them. I was trying to get it to recognize whether or not you had read it when you would go see the Master but the dialogue did not want to work right.
Veladarius Posted October 18, 2014 Author Posted October 18, 2014 I think it is just the dialogue repeating, the month number is correct as they are numbered 0 - 11 So I might understand it as I need to return to the shop between the beginning of the month and the 11th ? Sry but I don't understand how to interpret those numbers, and the two different dates are unclear, and Tavish is always very late. There are 2 values that it looks at, the month and day but you normally don't see the month value. Whatever the date she told you then you need to be there on that day or up to 2 days after (if the 1st then the 1st - 3rd). He does not always show up immediately in the morning on the start day so you may have to try a few times (the trigger for it is outside the shop front door). If you have the quest marker set to show then it will pop up when he is there.
dsfargeg222 Posted October 18, 2014 Posted October 18, 2014 Mr. Tavish was supposed to show up on the 15th of the month, never showed. Mistress keeps repeating the important customer is coming dialogue every time you initiate conversation with her. Free trial was active when this happened, not sure if it had anything to do with it. There's a bit of the old Greengrocer's Apostrophe going on when the master locks you in for delivery quests, should be First things first, not First thing's first.
limonotu Posted October 18, 2014 Posted October 18, 2014 So I need to return to the shop between 11th and 13th with this variable ? I wait outside of the shop and come in the night for better chance, that's it ?
Veladarius Posted October 18, 2014 Author Posted October 18, 2014 3.0 Mild bug: Dialog loop possible spoiler warning: When taking the second master's request to the embassy, if you choose the ... option instead of "yes, master" she snaps at you to pay attention, but the dialog option that comes up after that doesn't include anything but "...", so it not only loops infinitely, but doesn't give you the option to leave the loop. However, if you leave the dialog, and re-initiate dialog with master, the "yes, master" option comes back. In my case I had to reload a save to get the dialogue back. @ Veladarius: I reset and disabled the Free Trial. My inventory is clear of all the items Master put on but the Chastity Belt quest is still active. Master also continues to force greet the Free Trial opening dialogue. In this case tabbing out of that dialogue removes it from the topic list and I can start the dialogue for the tasks Master sends by courier. Hopefully that made sense. The dialogue with the ... is supposed to be hidden and only shown if you drop out of the conversation. It is the first time I have tried using it so I am not sure why it won't hide it.
Veladarius Posted October 18, 2014 Author Posted October 18, 2014 Ok, I am having some trouble with the quests: Using an old (but clean) character, I started and did both the Delivery and the Recovery quests, but could only do one of each. Further more, neither of the quests had a description in the journal. When asking Master about slaves, after her first responce, there is nothing more in the dialogue tree. Integration and Expansion are both 2.8.2. incidentally. Load Order: GameMode=Skyrim Skyrim.esm=1 Update.esm=1 Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp=1 Dawnguard.esm=1 Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp=1 HearthFires.esm=1 Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp=1 Dragonborn.esm=1 Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp=1 hdtHighHeel.esm=1 SexLab.esm=1 SexLabAroused.esm=1 Devious Devices - Assets.esm=1 ZaZAnimationPack.esm=1 Devious Devices - Integration.esm=1 Devious Devices - Expansion.esm=1 HighResTexturePack01.esp=1 HighResTexturePack02.esp=1 HighResTexturePack03.esp=1 Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp=1 SkyUI.esp=1 Auto Unequip Ammo.esp=1 dcpack1.esp=1 Train over 9000!!!! times.esp=1 Devious Deviants.esp=1 NoNakedComments.esp=1 Captured Dreams.esp=1 DisableRangedKillCams1.6.esp=1 Master Trader Mod.esp=1 PerkPointPotion.esp=1 Papyrus Logs: The log has nothing but errors from Integration, is the MCM menu for it working?
Veladarius Posted October 18, 2014 Author Posted October 18, 2014 So I need to return to the shop between 11th and 13th with this variable ? I wait outside of the shop and come in the night for better chance, that's it ? Don't wait inside as the trigger that sets everything up is outside.
thetwo2012 Posted October 18, 2014 Posted October 18, 2014 That is the issue that one of the testers had but could not tell what was causing the issue. The quest should give you the items at stage 20 then set to 50 and update the objective. If you (or anyone else having the issue) can do this and tell me if elisif's Alias is filled or says none: sqv cdxExpQuest02 Assuming you meant cdxExpQuest03: All three aliases (Elisif, Player, and Master) are NONE. Quest is enabled, stage is 50.
zjzc Posted October 18, 2014 Posted October 18, 2014 What a breakthrough! so excited a major update is here and thanks so much for building it!
Guest Posted October 18, 2014 Posted October 18, 2014 Nothing to add or maybe "I agree with everything" you all said, the free trial has started and all quests have stopped. All my character can say now is "nevermind" after asking about employment. Thanks for the hint about waiting outside. --- Can I ask an existential question? OK forget it's a game and pain/pleasure is virtual, forget the animations that severely get screwed up when wearing bound-items, [insert something here about imagination and the word immersive] Is someone (besides my character) happy I'm wearing whatever I'm wearing? Master seems slightly disgusted and just says "suit yourself". All my other mods are on hold because (A) they wouldn't work or they wouldn't work right (eg, "milk economy", "random attack"). If this were a book, it would have to have an ending. Like, I'm palmed off to Herran, who's cruel, and I escape, Or Kara escapes taking me with her, or Master makes me a sales-rep after some grueling test. But right this second I'm waiting the required game-week to see what happens. "let me get those off you" "off you go" nevermind. Or am I supposed to explore something? I did not notice the VIP mansion, I'm gonna go look for it.
Veladarius Posted October 18, 2014 Author Posted October 18, 2014 That is the issue that one of the testers had but could not tell what was causing the issue. The quest should give you the items at stage 20 then set to 50 and update the objective. If you (or anyone else having the issue) can do this and tell me if elisif's Alias is filled or says none: sqv cdxExpQuest02 Assuming you meant cdxExpQuest03: All three aliases (Elisif, Player, and Master) are NONE. Quest is enabled, stage is 50. Try this esp, I made an adjustment to Elisif's Alias so hopefully that will allow it to fill properly. Captured Dreams.esp
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