Animal Research: The Insatiable Scholar

[Voronves]

10 minutes ago, Angel019 said:

Hello, just a quick question, i started a new playthrough with this mod and got Tirwin to follow me however i noticed that i can't ask to trade with her and my issue is that i play with iNeed mod and basically she gets hungry and thirsty and i can't give her waterskin or any food, do i need to progress with her to unlock trading option? 

Yea i think after the ragnar quest she allows you to change her inventory.

[kamithemoon]

6 hours ago, ylt_enes said:

mc-creature: no issues

mc-npc: no issues

npc-creature: there are issues here — they’re preparing, but it ends immediately; they don’t even start the scene. There are only undressing scenes. However, it works in some scenes, but only for two creatures: Ashspawn and Netch. Aside from these two, nothing else works

This really seems like an issue that you should ask about on the Creature Framework thread instead of here.  I can't imagine what might interfere with NPC-creature scenes.

 

Have you done your due diligence and ruled out mod conflicts?  This means disabling all other mods except for this what is required for this one and testing your issue.  If it then works as intended (which it should), then you readd mods in batches until an added batch breaks your game with your initial issue.  Then you fine tune by removing the last batch and adding back each mod individually until you find the conflict.

[Unknown34]

11 hours ago, killer905 said:

He should cast a paralysis spell on PC and Tirwin, and then transform into a vampire lord.

He doesn't do that. i will have to check but my problem maybe the fact that i have HVl installed so i'll removed it and see.

[killer905]

59 minutes ago, Unknown34 said:

He doesn't do that. i will have to check but my problem maybe the fact that i have HVl installed so i'll removed it and see.

HVI?

[Gristle]

On 5/7/2026 at 6:13 PM, kamithemoon said:

I wouldn't mind if what happens here is that Tirwin is disabled and you remain yourself and look like yourself.  And everyone else just treats you like Tirwin.  It's kinda what happens in movies anyways when body switching happens.  Like Quantum Leap or something.

My initial thought was to just make the invisible PC follow Tirwin closely with a third-person view. That would be easy, but I suppose that's not natural for a VR player, who probably wants to see everything first person (and without a randomly moving camera).

 

So, like you said, it might be best to just force the game into a first-person perspective (maybe not even needed for VR?), leave control with the PC, leave the camera on the PC, make Tirwin follow invisibly, and ignore the fact that you might be looking at the wrong forearms and hands (or more, with VR mods?). I suppose that could be minimized by blocking combat controls. The dialogue is already set up to be with the PC, so no changes there. The trigger boxes are set up to detect Tirwin, but that's a simple change to detect the PC.

 

Finally, there are the sex scenes. Upon starting a sex scene, I could make the PC invisible, make Tirwin visible, start the sex scene with Tirwin, and then let the invisible PC do whatever they want during the sex scene.  Or, I could lock the PC into a viewing position. Then, when the sex scene ends, I could unwind that.

 

Any thoughts on the above?

[SlightlyGingered]

After getting Tirwin's room setup and going through that whole scene she says she needs to go to a General Goods store to buy stuff for her room. Is there a specific location I'm supposed to go to? Tried several Gen Goods stores but nothing has triggered so far and I don't see any special "Tirwin" specific goods added to the vendor's wears.

[killer905]

1 hour ago, SlightlyGingered said:

After getting Tirwin's room setup and going through that whole scene she says she needs to go to a General Goods store to buy stuff for her room. Is there a specific location I'm supposed to go to? Tried several Gen Goods stores but nothing has triggered so far and I don't see any special "Tirwin" specific goods added to the vendor's wears.

Once you enter any General Store, Tirwin should initiate the conversation with the shop seller herself.

[kamithemoon]

3 hours ago, Gristle said:

My initial thought was to just make the invisible PC follow Tirwin closely with a third-person view. That would be easy, but I suppose that's not natural for a VR player, who probably wants to see everything first person (and without a randomly moving camera).

 

So, like you said, it might be best to just force the game into a first-person perspective (maybe not even needed for VR?), leave control with the PC, leave the camera on the PC, make Tirwin follow invisibly, and ignore the fact that you might be looking at the wrong forearms and hands (or more, with VR mods?). I suppose that could be minimized by blocking combat controls. The dialogue is already set up to be with the PC, so no changes there. The trigger boxes are set up to detect Tirwin, but that's a simple change to detect the PC.

 

Finally, there are the sex scenes. Upon starting a sex scene, I could make the PC invisible, make Tirwin visible, start the sex scene with Tirwin, and then let the invisible PC do whatever they want during the sex scene.  Or, I could lock the PC into a viewing position. Then, when the sex scene ends, I could unwind that.

 

Any thoughts on the above?

From what I learned from AI, camera controls are hard locked to the player so you don't need to do any adjustments to perspective and any adjustments won't take.

 

Invisibility shaders do work, iirc.  So you could turn the PC invisible and that should hide your forearms and hands.  We can actually see our whole body if we look down.

 

An interesting thing we can do in VR is grab NPCs and drag them along (using PLANCK).  So if trigger boxes are set for Tirwin, they might not need to be changed and we could just try to lead her to where she needs to be or manually drag her to there, though it might need to be obvious where she needs to go.  Otherwise, setting things up to detect the PC would work fine as well.

 

For the sex scenes, if the PC is invisible the entire time, then you could just set it up to be performed with Tirwin as normal.

[Gristle]

7 hours ago, kamithemoon said:

From what I learned from AI, camera controls are hard locked to the player so you don't need to do any adjustments to perspective and any adjustments won't take.

 

Invisibility shaders do work, iirc.  So you could turn the PC invisible and that should hide your forearms and hands.  We can actually see our whole body if we look down.

 

An interesting thing we can do in VR is grab NPCs and drag them along (using PLANCK).  So if trigger boxes are set for Tirwin, they might not need to be changed and we could just try to lead her to where she needs to be or manually drag her to there, though it might need to be obvious where she needs to go.  Otherwise, setting things up to detect the PC would work fine as well.

 

For the sex scenes, if the PC is invisible the entire time, then you could just set it up to be performed with Tirwin as normal.

OK, so it sounds like the best VR approach to Tirwin's dream sequence is:

 

* Turn PC invisible

* Turn Tirwin invisible, set Tirwin to follow PC (not strictly necessary, but it will make Sexlab faster)

* Change triggers to PC triggers

* On sex start, make Tirwin visible, let sex play out with Tirwin and the NPC - PC can move around and watch

* On sex end, make Tirwin invisible again

 

There's a final scene where Tirwin wields a dagger, but there's actually already a backup for that, since killer905 was having trouble keeping the dagger wielded. Probably best just to use that backup for VR.

 

[2624909257]

11 hours ago, killer905 said:

一旦进入任何一家杂货店，蒂尔温应该主动与店主交谈。

I also encountered this problem. How can I solve it?

[killer905]

2 hours ago, 2624909257 said:

I also encountered this problem. How can I solve it?

The Belethor shop is work 100%, but if it isn't, you can use the `setstage` command. Everything is explained here: 

 

[killer905]

4 hours ago, Gristle said:

OK, so it sounds like the best VR approach to Tirwin's dream sequence is:

 

* Turn PC invisible

* Turn Tirwin invisible, set Tirwin to follow PC (not strictly necessary, but it will make Sexlab faster)

* Change triggers to PC triggers

* On sex start, make Tirwin visible, let sex play out with Tirwin and the NPC - PC can move around and watch

* On sex end, make Tirwin invisible again

 

There's a final scene where Tirwin wields a dagger, but there's actually already a backup for that, since killer905 was having trouble keeping the dagger wielded. Probably best just to use that backup for VR.

 

One option would be to have the PC appear as a ghost (it’s possible to do this) during a dream sequence. Tirwin would then move on her own to specific locations or follow the PC (the ghost). The part involving the dagger would also be fairly straightforward, as Tirwin could go to the NPC herself and cause harm.

[Rebecca.Dova]

In the school scene, after Tirwin transitions to male, only the scene with the mouth works; nothing happens in the other scenes. Could this be a problem?

 

[killer905]

1 hour ago, jerryrhp said:

In the school scene, after Tirwin transitions to male, only the scene with the mouth works; nothing happens in the other scenes. Could this be a problem?

 

I recommend the Billyy pack, which includes Invisible Furnishing.

As for the missing animations that the script is looking for, they should trigger a fallback animation with the FM tag.

[Rebecca.Dova]

4 minutes ago, killer905 said:

I recommend the Billyy pack, which includes Invisible Furnishing.

As for the missing animations that the script is looking for, they should trigger a fallback animation with the FM tag.

 

i have Billyy´s and Anub´s pack

[killer905]

35 minutes ago, jerryrhp said:

 

i have Billyy´s and Anub´s pack

"Invisible Furnishing" from Billyy too?

[Rebecca.Dova]

20 minutes ago, killer905 said:

"Invisible Furnishing" from Billyy too?

Yes!

[killer905]

57 minutes ago, jerryrhp said:

Yes!

hard to say why only blowjob work for you if tiwin is male ;/

[Rebecca.Dova]

29 minutes ago, killer905 said:

hard to say why only blowjob work for you if tiwin is male ;/

 

Another thing, in the elemental scenes, there are no scenes with the fire Astronach, but there are with the other two.

 

[Gristle]

1 hour ago, jerryrhp said:

 

Another thing, in the elemental scenes, there are no scenes with the fire Astronach, but there are with the other two.

 

The fire atronach is female, but the animations are almost all set up for male fire atronachs. So, you have to turn off "Match Creature Gender" in the Sexlab MCM.  Same for spriggans.

 

[Gristle]

On 5/10/2026 at 5:19 AM, killer905 said:

One option would be to have the PC appear as a ghost (it’s possible to do this) during a dream sequence. Tirwin would then move on her own to specific locations or follow the PC (the ghost). The part involving the dagger would also be fairly straightforward, as Tirwin could go to the NPC herself and cause harm.

The PC could appear as a ghost, but then the VR player would look down and see a ghost body that would look like the PC. I think it's better to just make the PC invisible. VR is first person, so you don't need to see the PC. Yes, Tirwin could move on her own, but I think this might take away some of the fun of "playing" the quest (and would be more work). Also, the PC has to be close to Tirwin whenever an NPC enters a conversation with her, or else it won't work, because these are actually force greets to the PC. Without this, the player can't make dialogue choices. I guess the NPC would just wait for the PC to "catch up", so it could work, but it may be a lot more obvious that the NPC is force greeting the PC and not Tirwin -- they might turn away from Tirwin to face the PC.

[Rebecca.Dova]

After the last quest, I already completed Tirwin's room. When I dismiss her, she starts walking back to Whiterun and doesn't stay in the room.

Another question: will there be more quests after this? In the future?

[killer905]

On 5/13/2026 at 1:42 PM, jerryrhp said:

Another question: will there be more quests after this? In the future?

In Tirwin room? yes.

[Rebecca.Dova]

3 hours ago, killer905 said:

In Tirwin room? yes.

 

I finished the whole mod, currently Tirwin has his room at home and there are no more quests to do, now I'm waiting for new quests and animals...
I thought the Tirwin's Dream part was sensational!!!

[eflat01]

On 5/13/2026 at 7:42 AM, jerryrhp said:

After the last quest, I already completed Tirwin's room. When I dismiss her, she starts walking back to Whiterun and doesn't stay in the room.

Another question: will there be more quests after this? In the future?

 

Had you dismissed her in the room?