Animal Research: The Insatiable Scholar

[Jubei69]

22 minutes ago, killer905 said:

Ghosts shouldn't be hostile when they get out of bed (depending on the PC's gender), and the fact that Tirwin isn't having sex with anyone is strange, to say the least, and you're the first one to point this out. Unfortunately, I don't have an answer to this problem, and the only thing that comes to mind is that Tirwin has glitched.

I finally fixed Tirwin by moving the stage forward to 280. That did the trick but then, after the rest of the stages worked, we finally went upstairs with Otto, only to find the damn book was missing lol. Still, at least that was easy to fix. It could be too many script-heavy mods running perhaps, though I don't understand why I'd have no issues prior to this? I just hope that's the end of my problems, coz I've really enjoyed playing both this & Balazar's Bitch for the first time.

[killer905]

43 minutes ago, Jubei69 said:

I finally fixed Tirwin by moving the stage forward to 280. That did the trick but then, after the rest of the stages worked, we finally went upstairs with Otto, only to find the damn book was missing lol. Still, at least that was easy to fix. It could be too many script-heavy mods running perhaps, though I don't understand why I'd have no issues prior to this? I just hope that's the end of my problems, coz I've really enjoyed playing both this & Balazar's Bitch for the first time.

As you can see, using `setstage` isn't always helpful. I assume you obtained the book some other way, right?

The Otto event itself has a lot of scripts, but as I mentioned, you're the first one to have these kinds of issues with this quest.

It’s possible that over time, your save file has too many scripts running in the background, or even a slight lag can mess up NPC behavior or the quest itself.

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[Jubei69]

7 minutes ago, killer905 said:

As you can see, using `setstage` isn't always helpful. I assume you obtained the book some other way, right?

The Otto event itself has a lot of scripts, but as I mentioned, you're the first one to have these kinds of issues with this quest.

It’s possible that over time, your save file has too many scripts running in the background, or even a slight lag can mess up NPC behavior or the quest itself.

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I don't like using the console, coz to me it kinda defeats the object. I wanna experience the mods, not having to skip through them. Unfortunately, that's not always possible. Especially if, like me you only bother with mods that can be part of a playthrough. I'm not one of those people who download a mod just to play that one alone. Like I said, hopefully that'll be the end of my issues & I can get back to enjoying it again.

[Gristle]

4 hours ago, Jubei69 said:

 On top of that, there were people banging on the bed in both the bedroom & the bed in the cell so they'd somehow managed to teleport in there, despite both doors having master locks on them lol. Due to this, there was hardly anyone left in the main room, coz they'd all gotten locked in there after teleporting. 

The scripted sex in the Dremora party room area all takes place at designated locations and none of those are on beds (except for the one PC-ghost scene). Do you have another mod running that's making NPCs have sex? If so, I would say that's causing at least some of the problems. 

[Gristle]

11 hours ago, lekhanhtrung1989 said:

Yes. Ingun: Come here, Bravil. But Bravil didn't come to her, he remained seated in the stable.

That dialogue should set the stage to 90. Can you run 'sqv VAR_Spriggan' to check?

 

If it's stage 90, Ingun should remove her clothes. Does that happen?

 

[lekhanhtrung1989]

14 hours ago, Gristle said:

That dialogue should set the stage to 90. Can you run 'sqv VAR_Spriggan' to check?

 

If it's stage 90, Ingun should remove her clothes. Does that happen?

 

She didn't take off her clothes.

[Goblets]

I finished the latest update yesterday and it was so good! im so impressed by your creativity! thanks for doing updates still!

 

Is there any plans to add more things to tirwin outside of the story? like banter with other followers and such?

[killer905]

1 hour ago, Goblets said:

I finished the latest update yesterday and it was so good! im so impressed by your creativity! thanks for doing updates still!

 

Is there any plans to add more things to tirwin outside of the story? like banter with other followers and such?

We have banter with other followers on the list, but the main issue here is that there are a lot of followers in the Vanilia game. We could provide general dialogues for all followers, dialogues based on the follower’s voice type, or each individual follower could have their own dialogues—meaning some would praise what others do, others would be less enthusiastic, and still others would be surprised that a High Elf would stoop to having sex with animals, realizing that High Elves aren’t much different from humans.

Option 1 is out because it doesn’t make sense, and options 2 and 3 would take time to implement, but right now we’d rather focus on the main storyline and add other things later ;3

[Goblets]

18 minutes ago, killer905 said:

We have banter with other followers on the list, but the main issue here is that there are a lot of followers in the Vanilia game. We could provide general dialogues for all followers, dialogues based on the follower’s voice type, or each individual follower could have their own dialogues—meaning some would praise what others do, others would be less enthusiastic, and still others would be surprised that a High Elf would stoop to having sex with animals, realizing that High Elves aren’t much different from humans.

Option 1 is out because it doesn’t make sense, and options 2 and 3 would take time to implement, but right now we’d rather focus on the main storyline and add other things later ;3

Thanks for the reply! i think tirwin is great as a follower and in that case i hope she gets such an update incase you guys got the time to do so!

 

Untill then i praise your current work on tirwins story because it's so well made and interesting arc to follow and will look forward for the next update!

[GunpowderWizard]

Great mod! Seeds of Lust is bugged for me. The Lodge doors are all black and uninteractable once inside, leading to pathing errors for the Ingun NPC(who's refID is different from vanilla Ingun obviously.) when she is going outside, as well as requiring me to teleport back and forth with coc. Also, the NPC that is supposed to be outside doesn't spawn. I tried the refID posted in the solution from April first and it says it is not found. I am on Special Edition (AE specifically), could that be why? Any help would be great appreciated!

I could definitely use setstage to jump the mod forward but then there is a bug with Storm that marks him as 'steal' when I interact with him. I'd love to be able to avoid that.

[killer905]

6 hours ago, GunpowderWizard said:

Great mod! Seeds of Lust is bugged for me. The Lodge doors are all black and uninteractable once inside, leading to pathing errors for the Ingun NPC(who's refID is different from vanilla Ingun obviously.) when she is going outside, as well as requiring me to teleport back and forth with coc. Also, the NPC that is supposed to be outside doesn't spawn. I tried the refID posted in the solution from April first and it says it is not found. I am on Special Edition (AE specifically), could that be why? Any help would be great appreciated!

I could definitely use setstage to jump the mod forward but then there is a bug with Storm that marks him as 'steal' when I interact with him. I'd love to be able to avoid that.

Black door? maybe screanshot, please. For me for now sounds like mod conflict.

 

 

(xx) is the load index of Animal Research.

 

before you reach building

Open console

PRID xx39A41B

enable

If he still not there or dead use
 

Disable

Resurrect

Enable

[GunpowderWizard]

12 hours ago, killer905 said:

Black door? maybe screanshot, please. For me for now sounds like mod conflict.

 

 

(xx) is the load index of Animal Research.

 

before you reach building

Open console

PRID xx39A41B

enable

If he still not there or dead use
 

Disable

Resurrect

Enable

Very well may be. If that's the case, probably not gonna be able to find a solution since it is 1000+ mods to parse through.

That PRID command doesn't seem to be working unless I am doing it wrong.

I attached two screenshots. The first shows the uninteractable black door. The second is showing me near Riften well and far away from the lodge, doing the command and getting an error message.

If you think this is just mod conflicts being funky because of the surplus of mods then its cool and I'll skip and deal with the setstage stuff. Just wanted to know if this was an error encountered before, or if you know of a solution. Thanks for your help!
 

[killer905]

5 minutes ago, GunpowderWizard said:

Very well may be. If that's the case, probably not gonna be able to find a solution since it is 1000+ mods to parse through.

That PRID command doesn't seem to be working unless I am doing it wrong.

I attached two screenshots. The first shows the uninteractable black door. The second is showing me near Riften well and far away from the lodge, doing the command and getting an error message.

If you think this is just mod conflicts being funky because of the surplus of mods then its cool and I'll skip and deal with the setstage stuff. Just wanted to know if this was an error encountered before, or if you know of a solution. Thanks for your help!
 

 

 

You MUST replace xx!

So it should NOT look like PRID xx39A41B, but rather like PRID 459A41B.

XX is your modorder ID in Vortex or MO2 for Animal Research.

[GunpowderWizard]

3 hours ago, killer905 said:

You MUST replace xx!

So it should NOT look like PRID xx39A41B, but rather like PRID 459A41B.

XX is your modorder ID in Vortex or MO2 for Animal Research.

Ah! I see! I was able to do it and get the quest going. For the black doors, though, the issues seem unrelated. Most likely a conflict with another mod. 

Best solution I found to bypass this was to teleport the Ingun NPC using the console menu and clicking on her, teleporting outside using COC BlackBriarLodgeExterior, teleporting her to you using moveto player and then using the built-in TP spell for Tirwin, all at the stables outside. In case anyone else stumbles across this issue in the future  

If you don't want to click on Ingun inside the lodge, you can use her refID, which is AC38B0BB, for the PRID command. That is at least what it said in the console when I highlighted her.

Thank you for your help, I would have had no clue to replace the 'xx's with something in my load order! Have a great day!

Edited April 5 by GunpowderWizard

[lekhanhtrung1989]

On 4/4/2026 at 5:27 AM, Gristle said:

That dialogue should set the stage to 90. Can you run 'sqv VAR_Spriggan' to check?

 

If it's stage 90, Ingun should remove her clothes. Does that happen?

 

I had to use the console to get through 2 screens
Bravil: setstage var_spriggan 100
Storm: setstage var_spriggan 170
As ingun couldn't trigger the script that had sex with them.

[Ilver]

I'm stuck. The quest marker is outside Black-Briar Manor, but there's nothing there. I reloaded my save, restarted the game—nothing helped. I went inside the building—the book is nowhere to be found.
Maybe there should be a conversation with Tyrwin at this marker, but it didn't.

[killer905]

33 minutes ago, Ilver said:

I'm stuck. The quest marker is outside Black-Briar Manor, but there's nothing there. I reloaded my save, restarted the game—nothing helped. I went inside the building—the book is nowhere to be found.
Maybe there should be a conversation with Tyrwin at this marker, but it didn't.

There should be an NPC in front of the building, H name is Khorst. If he’s not there, I recommend loading a save file and skipping the dialogue. Alternatively, enable him.

 

(xx) is the load index of Animal Research.

 

before you reach building

Open console

PRID xx39A41B

enable

If he still not there or dead use
 

Disable

Resurrect

Enable

[kamithemoon]

On 4/4/2026 at 11:20 AM, Goblets said:

I finished the latest update yesterday and it was so good! im so impressed by your creativity! thanks for doing updates still!

 

Is there any plans to add more things to tirwin outside of the story? like banter with other followers and such?

I have been the strongest proponent for follower banter and such but thinking more about it, I can see how that would take away from development of the main quest and also that it is unlikely that banter could be written for my favorite followers anyways.  Luckily, there are options and we now have Followers Chat which you could use to design your own banter and for whatever follower combination you desire.  So I suppose, what I would encourage is for folks to write their own banter then upload them as additional patches for Tirwin.

[Bot222]

hello, can someone help with this
im on the mission seeds of lust but when i ask tirwin to play with the hunting dog after getting the book, i dont see any dogs and the scene doesnt start? 

[killer905]

2 hours ago, Bot222 said:

hello, can someone help with this
im on the mission seeds of lust but when i ask tirwin to play with the hunting dog after getting the book, i dont see any dogs and the scene doesnt start? 

There should be two dogs and two horses outside (Frost may not be there if you've completed the “Promises to Keep” quest)
Bravil - xx39A425
Poe - xx39A424
Storm - xx097E1F

 

On all try

Enable

moveto player

[Soronarr]

On 2/15/2026 at 7:47 PM, Gristle said:

There should be a quest marker on the wolf itself. To proceed without the quest marker, the bandit camp is the vanilla bandit camp just below Dragonsreach on the north side of Whiterun. It is in a recessed area under a small cliff. 

 

Just below Dragonsreach? As in NORTH? Not seein anyting dammit.

 

I do have whiterun outskirts (patched) and Boreal whiterun (that jsut adds trees)

 

EDIT: NEvermind. Found it

Edited April 8 by Soronarr

[eflat01]

On 4/5/2026 at 4:47 PM, GunpowderWizard said:

Ah! I see! I was able to do it and get the quest going. For the black doors, though, the issues seem unrelated. Most likely a conflict with another mod. 

Best solution I found to bypass this was to teleport the Ingun NPC using the console menu and clicking on her, teleporting outside using COC BlackBriarLodgeExterior, teleporting her to you using moveto player and then using the built-in TP spell for Tirwin, all at the stables outside. In case anyone else stumbles across this issue in the future  

If you don't want to click on Ingun inside the lodge, you can use her refID, which is AC38B0BB, for the PRID command. That is at least what it said in the console when I highlighted her.

Thank you for your help, I would have had no clue to replace the 'xx's with something in my load order! Have a great day!

 

Even with 1000+ mods you can still use SSeEdit to identify conflicts with the cell and the worldspace between mods.  Usually most people only have a few which touch a cell or worldspace block. Sporting well over 1000 mods myself.

 

Also this mod https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/19250 can help you know what mod is the "last mod" affecting an item by clicking the item in the console. 

Edited April 8 by eflat01

[raeder87]

I have completed the seeds of lust, but when i talked to tirwin about the next book, he mentioned we should ask the innkeeper in dawnstar, but no new quest started and the npcs there dont have new lines either. I tried an earlier save but same happened. and if its bugged, is there any quest id i can manually trigger?

[killer905]

18 minutes ago, raeder87 said:

I have completed the seeds of lust, but when i talked to tirwin about the next book, he mentioned we should ask the innkeeper in dawnstar, but no new quest started and the npcs there dont have new lines either. I tried an earlier save but same happened. and if its bugged, is there any quest id i can manually trigger?

In Dawnstar, the innkeeper should be Thoring, but if it is Karita instead, the quest may not trigger. Also, make sure Thoring is alive; if not, resurrect him using the command BEFORE starting the quest.

[guyaun]

When this prompt popped up during my gameplay, the edges of my screen got blurry. What should I do?