kklae Posted February 12 Posted February 12 2 hours ago, killer905 said: There will be an opportunity to return to the Dremora Party, but we prefer to focus on the main storyline and, at the same time, add the possibility of revisiting creatures we have already encountered. That's perfect! Looking forward to your next update!
eflat01 Posted February 12 Posted February 12 2 hours ago, killer905 said: There will be an opportunity to return to the Dremora Party, but we prefer to focus on the main storyline and, at the same time, add the possibility of revisiting creatures we have already encountered. Should take notes in your spreadsheet for these requests/plans then latter will be easier than going through one by one to see which could be radiant to some extent. Yes, Sanguine certainly would be excited to have more debauchery. I go to the Nightgate a lot because I have cutting room floor which adds Heljarchen back into the game. I'm tempted to add a mod to change the inn's cell but haven't so far to avoid conflict ... of course I'm sure I'd just patch it if need be.
killer905 Posted February 12 Posted February 12 2 hours ago, eflat01 said: Should take notes in your spreadsheet for these requests/plans then latter will be easier than going through one by one to see which could be radiant to some extent. Yes, Sanguine certainly would be excited to have more debauchery. I go to the Nightgate a lot because I have cutting room floor which adds Heljarchen back into the game. I'm tempted to add a mod to change the inn's cell but haven't so far to avoid conflict ... of course I'm sure I'd just patch it if need be. There's a relevant thread in Gristle's club I just need update there topic. 1
killer905 Posted February 13 Posted February 13 43 minutes ago, Arushera said: Hi i think i encountered a bug when i offered myself to do Ash Hopper instead of Tirwin but the SL still trigger TirwinxHopper instead, is there any way for me to fix this through SSEdit? If you suggest to Tirwin that the PC offered to Ash Hopper, Tirwin will ultimately be the first to have sex with this creature, and only then will the PC have the opportunity.
Arushera Posted February 13 Posted February 13 3 hours ago, killer905 said: If you suggest to Tirwin that the PC offered to Ash Hopper, Tirwin will ultimately be the first to have sex with this creature, and only then will the PC have the opportunity. My bad i accidentally skipped a line in her dialogue lol
sophie01 Posted February 13 Posted February 13 I'm at Black - Briar Lodge but the quest marker is by the steps off the ground and it won't progress. Also back at Volkihar the quest in Harkons room when it says to go and talk to Serana, I was able to sneak past Harkon and try to talk Serana but there was no dialogue options is that a problem or are you supposed to fail that quest and have Harkon see you? 1
killer905 Posted February 13 Posted February 13 23 minutes ago, sophie01 said: I'm at Black - Briar Lodge but the quest marker is by the steps off the ground and it won't progress. There should be a guard at the entrance. 23 minutes ago, sophie01 said: Also back at Volkihar the quest in Harkons room when it says to go and talk to Serana, I was able to sneak past Harkon and try to talk Serana but there was no dialogue options is that a problem or are you supposed to fail that quest and have Harkon see you? Harkon must spot you and Tirwin and catch you. I admit, I'm even curious how you managed to do it. 1
sophie01 Posted February 13 Posted February 13 2 minutes ago, killer905 said: There should be a guard at the entrance. Harkon must spot you and Tirwin and catch you. I admit, I'm even curious how you managed to do it. No guard. There's one inside but talking to them doesn't have dialogue. Do I need to wait outside for them to come out at a specific time? As for Harkon he enters the room and I immediately crouched then as he started to come further into the room and start going up the stairs to the top half I just kept nudging around the edge then was able to jump off the ledge over the railing and through the door. I thought I was being clever. I thought that the vampire lord quest could have been completed with the PC as it was mentioned. That would be interesting lol.
killer905 Posted February 13 Posted February 13 12 minutes ago, sophie01 said: No guard. There's one inside but talking to them doesn't have dialogue. Do I need to wait outside for them to come out at a specific time? No specific time. His name is Khorst xx3952E2 load save before you go Black - Briar Lodge resurrect or enable can help and then fast travel there. 14 minutes ago, sophie01 said: As for Harkon he enters the room and I immediately crouched then as he started to come further into the room and start going up the stairs to the top half I just kept nudging around the edge then was able to jump off the ledge over the railing and through the door. I thought I was being clever. I thought that the vampire lord quest could have been completed with the PC as it was mentioned. That would be interesting lol. It seems that Harkon was too preoccupied with his thoughts to notice the vampire cattle or another vampire by the wall And so, the next element that was not anticipated, but to be honest, should be heading your way.
Gristle Posted February 13 Author Posted February 13 35 minutes ago, sophie01 said: As for Harkon he enters the room and I immediately crouched then as he started to come further into the room and start going up the stairs to the top half I just kept nudging around the edge then was able to jump off the ledge over the railing and through the door. I thought I was being clever. I thought that the vampire lord quest could have been completed with the PC as it was mentioned. That would be interesting lol. That's clever - and unanticipated. It could be made that sneaking past Harkon allows a PC to go straight to Serana, and of course that would skip over the scene with Harkon (I understand this was desired for you). The bigger issue is it would skip over being thrown into the cell and being visited by Valerica, where she gives you some important information. I don't know a good alternate way to deliver that information to the PC. Valerica would have to be waiting in the hallway near the exit in that alternate case. It's possible, but it would be a bit of work, and a bit harder to explain Valerica's second conversation.
sophie01 Posted February 13 Posted February 13 38 minutes ago, killer905 said: No specific time. His name is Khorst xx3952E2 load save before you go Black - Briar Lodge resurrect or enable can help and then fast travel there. It seems that Harkon was too preoccupied with his thoughts to notice the vampire cattle or another vampire by the wall And so, the next element that was not anticipated, but to be honest, should be heading your way. Thank you I'll give that a go Maybe Harkon was sleepy and was just trying to get to the coffin and not looking out lol.
sophie01 Posted February 13 Posted February 13 16 minutes ago, Gristle said: That's clever - and unanticipated. It could be made that sneaking past Harkon allows a PC to go straight to Serana, and of course that would skip over the scene with Harkon (I understand this was desired for you). The bigger issue is it would skip over being thrown into the cell and being visited by Valerica, where she gives you some important information. I don't know a good alternate way to deliver that information to the PC. Valerica would have to be waiting in the hallway near the exit in that alternate case. It's possible, but it would be a bit of work, and a bit harder to explain Valerica's second conversation. Yeah I can't even imagine what goes on to make the quests work and so on. I forgot that failing quests was even a possibility by design but then I remembered a few vanilla quests that do it. When I went back to Harkon thinking he was meant to see me the quest failure made me think that talking to Serana was like a separate branch in the story. I see the issue in needing the PC to end in the prison cell. Other than getting caught with Tirwin when you're in vampire lord form and getting thrown in the prison. But it does seem like it would be a lot of work no matter what idea could work.
Donuts4me Posted February 14 Posted February 14 7 hours ago, killer905 said: Harkon must spot you and Tirwin and catch you. I admit, I'm even curious how you managed to do it. 6 hours ago, sophie01 said: As for Harkon he enters the room and I immediately crouched then as he started to come further into the room and start going up the stairs to the top half I just kept nudging around the edge then was able to jump off the ledge over the railing and through the door. I thought I was being clever. I thought that the vampire lord quest could have been completed with the PC as it was mentioned. That would be interesting lol. 6 hours ago, Gristle said: That's clever - and unanticipated. It could be made that sneaking past Harkon allows a PC to go straight to Serana, and of course that would skip over the scene with Harkon (I understand this was desired for you). The bigger issue is it would skip over being thrown into the cell and being visited by Valerica, where she gives you some important information. I don't know a good alternate way to deliver that information to the PC. Valerica would have to be waiting in the hallway near the exit in that alternate case. It's possible, but it would be a bit of work, and a bit harder to explain Valerica's second conversation. LOL. I actually did the exact same thing a long time ago back when you first released that quest and totally forgot to report it. I was curious if there was a way to avoid 'failing' that stage. My character has a lot of good sneaking bonuses. So, I figured it was a fluke.
killer905 Posted February 14 Posted February 14 @Gristle I found minor issues where loading a save and selecting a different option does not block the quest. Done on PC female 1) If the PC drinks with the drunks on the way to Riverwood, the ‘Make sure Tirwin is okay’ stage remains unchecked, and I had a conversation with Tirwin. 2) If I chose the option to keep Tirwin tied up, the carrage driver only has the dialogue ‘No rides for you until I get my show!’. Loading the save and selecting the Tirwin solution option allowed me to talk to the carrage driver.
eflat01 Posted February 14 Posted February 14 (edited) 22 hours ago, killer905 said: Harkon must spot you and Tirwin and catch you. I admit, I'm even curious how you managed to do it. Yes, I should had mentioned that but it slipped my mind because I realized the one quest step in there is meant to be failed, because I check in CK to see all possible options after the first play-thru. It should not dawn on most players to avoid it though because most like myself will take every opportunity to get Tirwin F'd. 😜 How you manage that is have a very sneaky PC build and very good timing. Edited February 14 by eflat01
sophie01 Posted February 14 Posted February 14 14 hours ago, Donuts4me said: LOL. I actually did the exact same thing a long time ago back when you first released that quest and totally forgot to report it. I was curious if there was a way to avoid 'failing' that stage. My character has a lot of good sneaking bonuses. So, I figured it was a fluke. Hahah that's funny. My sneak is pretty mid. Like I haven't used commands to improve it and I've not been trying to make sneak good, it is what it is. I was just trying to avoid him regardless because I don't like him and it seemed fun haha.
sophie01 Posted February 14 Posted February 14 22 hours ago, killer905 said: No specific time. His name is Khorst xx3952E2 load save before you go Black - Briar Lodge resurrect or enable can help and then fast travel there. It seems that Harkon was too preoccupied with his thoughts to notice the vampire cattle or another vampire by the wall And so, the next element that was not anticipated, but to be honest, should be heading your way. I'm getting "Unknown variable" using either resurrect or enable xx3952E2 either before the quest loads or just after it loads. Not sure what to do :?
killer905 Posted February 14 Posted February 14 28 minutes ago, sophie01 said: I'm getting "Unknown variable" using either resurrect or enable xx3952E2 either before the quest loads or just after it loads. Not sure what to do :? I have hope you change xx to your modorder ID, right? if you don't know. Just click on Tirwin and first two ID is modorder for Animal Research.
sophie01 Posted February 14 Posted February 14 10 minutes ago, killer905 said: I have hope you change xx to your modorder ID, right? if you don't know. Just click on Tirwin and first two ID is modorder for Animal Research. Sorry yes I did. It's 0e. Or at least that is the first two of Tirwin's ID. Another weird thing that may or may not be related... I have a save file after the warewolf scene ends and before this next quest begins but now it crashes if I go back to the save. Any ones before that point work and the auto saves after work too other than the issue of the Uknown Variable.
eflat01 Posted February 14 Posted February 14 (edited) 40 minutes ago, killer905 said: I have hope you change xx to your modorder ID, right? if you don't know. Just click on Tirwin and first two ID is modorder for Animal Research. 1 hour ago, sophie01 said: I'm getting "Unknown variable" using either resurrect or enable xx3952E2 either before the quest loads or just after it loads. Not sure what to do :? xx3952E2 is the npc's Form ID what you want is the Ref ID which is xx39A41B (xx) is the load index of Animal Research. PRID xx39A41B Disable Resurrect Enable Sometimes when bored. i'll PRID npcs and MoveTo player ... just to annoy them then watch them run back to where their current package puts them. Edited February 14 by eflat01
killer905 Posted February 14 Posted February 14 26 minutes ago, sophie01 said: Sorry yes I did. It's 0e. Or at least that is the first two of Tirwin's ID. Another weird thing that may or may not be related... I have a save file after the warewolf scene ends and before this next quest begins but now it crashes if I go back to the save. Any ones before that point work and the auto saves after work too other than the issue of the Uknown Variable. It's hard for me to say what the cause might be, but personally, I haven't had this problem at this point. The only thing I can suggest is to load a different save before the werewolf. 25 minutes ago, eflat01 said: xx3952E2 is the npc's Form ID what you want is the Ref ID which is xx39A41B (xx) is the load index of Animal Research. PRID xx39A41B Disable Resurrect Enable Sometimes when bored. i'll PRID npcs and MoveTo player ... just to annoy them then watch them run back to where their current package puts them. Damn my bad xD
sophie01 Posted February 14 Posted February 14 1 hour ago, eflat01 said: xx3952E2 is the npc's Form ID what you want is the Ref ID which is xx39A41B (xx) is the load index of Animal Research. PRID xx39A41B Disable Resurrect Enable Sometimes when bored. i'll PRID npcs and MoveTo player ... just to annoy them then watch them run back to where their current package puts them. 54 minutes ago, killer905 said: It's hard for me to say what the cause might be, but personally, I haven't had this problem at this point. The only thing I can suggest is to load a different save before the werewolf. Damn my bad xD Is load index the same as load order? The mod index is 0e and the load order is 17 but if I use either of these at the start I still have the same issue. I must be making a simple mistake somewhere
killer905 Posted February 14 Posted February 14 21 minutes ago, sophie01 said: Is load index the same as load order? The mod index is 0e and the load order is 17 but if I use either of these at the start I still have the same issue. I must be making a simple mistake somewhere So like eflat01 say 0E39A41B I will check if it is possible to select it with a command.
sophie01 Posted February 14 Posted February 14 8 minutes ago, killer905 said: So like eflat01 say 0E39A41B I will check if it is possible to select it with a command. Hmm still the same issue. In the console commands I'm typing... Enable 0E39A41B Or I'm changing enable to resurrect. Am I missing something there?
eflat01 Posted February 14 Posted February 14 (edited) 46 minutes ago, sophie01 said: Hmm still the same issue. In the console commands I'm typing... Enable 0E39A41B Or I'm changing enable to resurrect. Am I missing something there? 0E is the index not the load order. That's zero E, btw ... a hexidecimal number. To open the console it's the ~ key. PRID is a command to select something and should select a ref id (do not click a mouse or target anything else because that may change what's selected) PRID 0E39A41B (will be used on that ref id as long as you do not select anything else) Reserrect (will resurrect a dead npc) Enable (will enable a ref id or in this case the npc) moveto player (will move the npc to the player) What I would do is try the moveto player command first, then disable and enable, Resurrect only if they're dead. I usually use this https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Console to look up console commands I can't remember Edited February 14 by eflat01
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