Animal Research: The Insatiable Scholar

[killer905]

1 hour ago, sophie01 said:

Thank, you for the reply. I read through some other posts here and i think I found the issue however I'm unable to fix it due to my lack of knowledge.

 

The issue is after Tirwin and the wolf sex scene ends, they walk back to the cage and just stand there and the quest won't progress. I saw in a previous comment it was due to the script not knowing the animations had ended due to SexLab P+ however I don't think I have Sexlab P+ but I wouldn't know how to check (I'm new to Sex labs mods) I'm on version 1.6.1170 with all the correct versions of the mods needed. This mod and the requirements are the only sexlabs mods I have installed currently.  

The symptoms are too similar to another user who had SexLab P+. Check in modlist if you have this mod, otherwise post screenshots of everything with Sexlab in the name. Or take the path of least resistance and install the latest version 2.15.6. If you already have it, search for a newer version on his Discord, which according to the post https://www.loverslab.com/topic/234579-animal-research-the-insatiable-scholar/page/104/#findComment-7214891 is version 2.16.

 

[sophie01]

2 hours ago, killer905 said:

The symptoms are too similar to another user who had SexLab P+. Check in modlist if you have this mod, otherwise post screenshots of everything with Sexlab in the name. Or take the path of least resistance and install the latest version 2.15.6. If you already have it, search for a newer version on his Discord, which according to the post https://www.loverslab.com/topic/234579-animal-research-the-insatiable-scholar/page/104/#findComment-7214891 is version 2.16.

 

Hi again thank you for the reply. I don't have Sexlab P+ installed unless I'm being really dumb and it's something obvious right in front of me. I went through every sexlab file installed and there is no sexlab P+ installed.  (I can send screenshots of everything with sexlab in the name but there's a lot of files to read through. Lots are the txt folders with different languages.)

 

Is sexlab P+ it's own mod or an abbreviation? I've googled it and searched on loverslab but nothing comes up.

 

I assume I'm just being dumb or done something wrong.   I'm sorry if it's frustrating.

[killer905]

50 minutes ago, sophie01 said:

Hi again thank you for the reply. I don't have Sexlab P+ installed unless I'm being really dumb and it's something obvious right in front of me. I went through every sexlab file installed and there is no sexlab P+ installed.  (I can send screenshots of everything with sexlab in the name but there's a lot of files to read through. Lots are the txt folders with different languages.)

 

Is sexlab P+ it's own mod or an abbreviation? I've googled it and searched on loverslab but nothing comes up.

 

I assume I'm just being dumb or done something wrong.   I'm sorry if it's frustrating.

Wait... you didn't use ModOrganiser 2 (MO2), Vortex or NMM (Nexus Mod Manager) to install mods? I mean you manually put everything in the data folder?

SexLab P+ replaces the regular Sexlab, improving it. 

 

[sophie01]

21 minutes ago, killer905 said:

Wait... you didn't use ModOrganiser 2 (MO2), Vortex or NMM (Nexus Mod Manager) to install mods? I mean you manually put everything in the data folder?

SexLab P+ replaces the regular Sexlab, improving it. 

 

Interesting I couldn't find Sexlab P anywhere. I use vortex for simple mods but it messes up from time to time so I don't trust it when it comes to more game changing mods. Also when I started modding it was before Vortex was recommended and I never got on with MO2. A few months ago Vortex broke the game so bad I had to reinstall windows so I'm only just remodding Skyrim again.

 

I'll install Sexlab P+ now and see if it fixes the issue . 

 

Thank you so much for the help.

[killer905]

26 minutes ago, sophie01 said:

Interesting I couldn't find Sexlab P anywhere. I use vortex for simple mods but it messes up from time to time so I don't trust it when it comes to more game changing mods. Also when I started modding it was before Vortex was recommended and I never got on with MO2. A few months ago Vortex broke the game so bad I had to reinstall windows so I'm only just remodding Skyrim again.

 

I'll install Sexlab P+ now and see if it fixes the issue . 

 

Thank you so much for the help.

Erm, huh? I use Vortex for all mods, and I haven't had any problems. The only problem might be that one wrong click can save game files in the Vortex staging folder. But that's only a problem if you choose to save changes when it detects differences in files between Data and staging.

[sophie01]

On 1/18/2026 at 7:23 PM, killer905 said:

Erm, huh? I use Vortex for all mods, and I haven't had any problems. The only problem might be that one wrong click can save game files in the Vortex staging folder. But that's only a problem if you choose to save changes when it detects differences in files between Data and staging.

I've spent around eight hours trying to make Sexlab P+ work but it won't. Looking back here I noticed that it's not in requirements. I think I have made it more confusing than it needs to be. 

 

Everything is now installed with Vortex. All required animations are downloaded and work with regular Sexlab. This quest works until any sex scene ends with Tirwin. The wolf scene she goes back to standing with the cage. I used the dialogue to ask for the next book skipping some to see what would happen and the quest played until the end of the sex scene with the Deer and she just stands next to it again.

 

Are these issues because I have a mistake or that Sexlab P+ is a requirement. Or is there a simple fix? Just a little confused. I like this mod and I'd love to play it properly  Sorry to be a pain

Edited January 19 by sophie01

[XCOMfighter]

I fixed SLAL and the frame rate issue, but the animations still won't play?

[killer905]

8 hours ago, sophie01 said:

I've spent around eight hours trying to make Sexlab P+ work but it won't. Looking back here I noticed that it's not in requirements. I think I have made it more confusing than it needs to be. 

 

Everything is now installed with Vortex. All required animations are downloaded and work with regular Sexlab. This quest works until any sex scene ends with Tirwin. The wolf scene she goes back to standing with the cage. I used the dialogue to ask for the next book skipping some to see what would happen and the quest played until the end of the sex scene with the Deer and she just stands next to it again.

 

Are these issues because I have a mistake or that Sexlab P+ is a requirement. Or is there a simple fix? Just a little confused. I like this mod and I'd love to play it properly  Sorry to be a pain

The minimum requirement is the basic version of SexLab:

 

As I wrote, the problem you describe is that sex between the wolf and Tirwin takes place, but nothing else happens after completion. At this point, Tirwin should approach you, but she will not do so unless the end of the scene is detected. So far, this has only affected SexLabP+ users.

 

My suggestion is to join Discord SexLab P+ (it's in the description of this mod), download version 2.16 and see if it solves your problem. Otherwise, you will have to use another mod that allows you to force Tirwin to have sex, i.e. force her to masturbate or have sex with the PC or another NPC, which allows the mod to detect the end of the sex scene, but this option is annoying.

[killer905]

3 hours ago, XCOMfighter said:

I fixed SLAL and the frame rate issue, but the animations still won't play?

It would be helpful to provide more information (which creature is causing the problem, what were the circumstances, the name of the task, etc. Simply writing ‘it doesn't work’ doesn't give us much to go on to help you), but if you are a SexLab P+ user, please read the post above that I wrote.

 

Alternatively, answer these questions:
- Do you have FNIS, NEMEZIS or Pandora to register custom animations? If you use Pandora, which version?
- Do you have the appropriate animations, e.g. from the Billy, Anubis etc. packs?
- Is the option in Sexlab for sex with Creatures enabled?
- Have the animations been registered in SLAL?
- Which version of Skyrim do you have, SE or AE?

 

Or try to start sex with a PC and a problematic creature. If it starts, it's the old version of SexLab P+.

[sophie01]

5 hours ago, killer905 said:

The minimum requirement is the basic version of SexLab:

 

As I wrote, the problem you describe is that sex between the wolf and Tirwin takes place, but nothing else happens after completion. At this point, Tirwin should approach you, but she will not do so unless the end of the scene is detected. So far, this has only affected SexLabP+ users.

 

My suggestion is to join Discord SexLab P+ (it's in the description of this mod), download version 2.16 and see if it solves your problem. Otherwise, you will have to use another mod that allows you to force Tirwin to have sex, i.e. force her to masturbate or have sex with the PC or another NPC, which allows the mod to detect the end of the sex scene, but this option is annoying.

Thank you for the reply  I was going over the issues I was having with Sexlab P+ in their discord yesterday for over five hours trying all the fixes they suggested. I went back to regular Sexlab and it gives me this one issue apposed to the multiple issues I have with Sexlab P+

 

I've attempted to force Tirwin into other sex with the MC and also to masturbate however she goes back to the cage after. As you said the end of the scene is not being detected for some reason. 

 

I don't mean to be repetitive or annoying, I'd like to fix it not only for myself but for anyone else who may get this issue. I'll uninstall then reinstall everything with fresh downloads and then another new save. Maybe that might do something. As you mentioned it's usually Sexlab P+ that has this issue so I'm unsure why I have the issue.

 

Thank you again for the help.

[XCOMfighter]

7 hours ago, killer905 said:

It would be helpful to provide more information (which creature is causing the problem, what were the circumstances, the name of the task, etc. Simply writing ‘it doesn't work’ doesn't give us much to go on to help you), but if you are a SexLab P+ user, please read the post above that I wrote.

 

Alternatively, answer these questions:
- Do you have FNIS, NEMEZIS or Pandora to register custom animations? If you use Pandora, which version?
- Do you have the appropriate animations, e.g. from the Billy, Anubis etc. packs?
- Is the option in Sexlab for sex with Creatures enabled?
- Have the animations been registered in SLAL?
- Which version of Skyrim do you have, SE or AE?

 

Or try to start sex with a PC and a problematic creature. If it starts, it's the old version of SexLab P+.

Turns out I didn't have creature animations turned on in SexLab. Thanks.

[killer905]

6 hours ago, sophie01 said:

Thank you for the reply  I was going over the issues I was having with Sexlab P+ in their discord yesterday for over five hours trying all the fixes they suggested. I went back to regular Sexlab and it gives me this one issue apposed to the multiple issues I have with Sexlab P+

 

I've attempted to force Tirwin into other sex with the MC and also to masturbate however she goes back to the cage after. As you said the end of the scene is not being detected for some reason. 

 

I don't mean to be repetitive or annoying, I'd like to fix it not only for myself but for anyone else who may get this issue. I'll uninstall then reinstall everything with fresh downloads and then another new save. Maybe that might do something. As you mentioned it's usually Sexlab P+ that has this issue so I'm unsure why I have the issue.

 

Thank you again for the help.

If you have returned to the regular Sexlab, it is best to make a new save or try uninstalling it in the SexLab MCM Menu, save, closing the game, load the save, and install SexLab in MCM. It is best to do this on a save before reaching the bandit camp where the wolf is.

[sophie01]

On 1/20/2026 at 7:36 PM, killer905 said:

If you have returned to the regular Sexlab, it is best to make a new save or try uninstalling it in the SexLab MCM Menu, save, closing the game, load the save, and install SexLab in MCM. It is best to do this on a save before reaching the bandit camp where the wolf is.

I was able to get it to work. So far it's been working well. The fix was uninstalling all mods other than LAL, Race Menu and some requirements, etc. I started a new game and it started working. Still not exactly sure what was is different this time... Everything is the same as before  Thank you for your patience.

 

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On the ship is there a way to not have the male character have sex with the PC? I tried killing them all, then swimming to shore, but it seems unavoidable. My player is set to lesbian in SexLab with the gender enforcement on but no luck. Other than setting as none essential, killing him and then marking for delete. But then that causes the script to stop after the sex scene I'm guessing because that character is needed to continue the scene with Tirwin.

 

Edited January 24 by sophie01

[killer905]

1 hour ago, sophie01 said:

I was able to get it to work. So far it's been working well. The fix was uninstalling all mods other than LAL, Race Menu and some requirements, etc. I started a new game and it started working. Still not exactly sure what was is different this time... Everything is the same as before  Thank you for your patience.

 

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On the ship is there a way to not have the male character have sex with the PC? I tried killing them all, then swimming to shore, but it seems unavoidable. My player is set to lesbian in SexLab with the gender enforcement on but no luck. Other than setting as none essential, killing him and then marking for delete. But then that causes the script to stop after the sex scene I'm guessing because that character is needed to continue the scene with Tirwin.

 

It's probably about the “chase” task. In the case of Male PC, the Male PC and Female NPC scene should start. In the case of Female PC, it will be Male NPC. If you have Male PC with Male NPC, SexLab simply detects your Male NPC as female. You need to change this so that it detects Male PC as male instead of Female.

Killing them makes no sense, because you'll ruin the quest, and secondly, you'll prevent yourself from returning to Skyrim if they are dead/have disappeared from Tamriel. Of course, this is if you use fast travel in this way.

The only thing I can possibly recommend is to press End on your keyboard to end the animation for the PC.

[Niadrion]

Was thinking on something that might be a nice addition for this mod, mostly for Tirwin.

Would it be possible to make her an ability to tame creatures or animals of a type that she had "fun" with? or make it possible to command her to have "fun" with X creature to tame it?

[killer905]

9 hours ago, Niadrion said:

Was thinking on something that might be a nice addition for this mod, mostly for Tirwin.

Would it be possible to make her an ability to tame creatures or animals of a type that she had "fun" with? or make it possible to command her to have "fun" with X creature to tame it?

It's possible, but Tirwin casting such a spell herself would be problematic when the PC has to KILL the creature as part of the quest, and the option (dialogue) to have sex with the creature would have sex if it is under the influence of “tame,” whether it's a spell or a shout.

That is why we chose the option of returning to creatures such as Angi -> Sabrecat, RIa -> Bear, etc.

[tlrd]

Would it be a bad idea to give Tirwin an outfit using Boutique - Outfit Creation and Distribution Suite?

[killer905]

2 hours ago, tlrd said:

Would it be a bad idea to give Tirwin an outfit using Boutique - Outfit Creation and Distribution Suite?

I wouldn't recommend using this, but Tirwin will let you give her an outfit as long as she's not “naked.” This option will only be available after a specific task, but in cities she will wear her mage outfit or custom outfit anyway, as long as she doesn't have the status of naked/topless/skimpy.

[sophie01]

On 1/24/2026 at 8:33 PM, killer905 said:

It's probably about the “chase” task. In the case of Male PC, the Male PC and Female NPC scene should start. In the case of Female PC, it will be Male NPC. If you have Male PC with Male NPC, SexLab simply detects your Male NPC as female. You need to change this so that it detects Male PC as male instead of Female.

Killing them makes no sense, because you'll ruin the quest, and secondly, you'll prevent yourself from returning to Skyrim if they are dead/have disappeared from Tamriel. Of course, this is if you use fast travel in this way.

The only thing I can possibly recommend is to press End on your keyboard to end the animation for the PC.

Thank you for the reply I'm female playing as female PC. I'm a lesbian and just don't want my PC to be with males. I guess I'll have to play the scene and end it a soon as possible I guess.

[BrummBear]

On 1/18/2026 at 4:09 PM, killer905 said:

The symptoms are too similar to another user who had SexLab P+. Check in modlist if you have this mod, otherwise post screenshots of everything with Sexlab in the name. Or take the path of least resistance and install the latest version 2.15.6. If you already have it, search for a newer version on his Discord, which according to the post https://www.loverslab.com/topic/234579-animal-research-the-insatiable-scholar/page/104/#findComment-7214891 is version 2.16.

 

 

as a side note to your discussion with sophie01 i want to point out that there is actually a bug in the current sexlab p+ (2.16.0) that causes it to lose its actors and thus not advancing the quests of this mod after the animation. in fact everything that triggers on animation end for a specific actor doesnt work anymore. this happened to me now 3 times and i started to simply live with it and advance stages with "setstage" command after the animation. this causes me to miss a tiny bit of the quest but it is what it is. P+ is simply so much better than the old sexlab that i dont wanna miss it. 

 

and now for sophie, switching from old sexlab to p+ requires you to redo basically your whole nsfw installation and you need to be carefull on several steps. if someone takes you by the hand and leads you trough the process it should be no issue, the biggest issue is all the old mod clutter you find here and all over the internet. but not waiting 10+ seconds for an animation to start is simply worth it, if u ask me.

Edited January 26 by BrummBear

[killer905]

2 hours ago, sophie01 said:

Thank you for the reply I'm female playing as female PC. I'm a lesbian and just don't want my PC to be with males. I guess I'll have to play the scene and end it a soon as possible I guess.

We didn't take that into account. I don't know if the setting in SexLab that PC is Male (even if PC is female) but the mod checks gender in dialogues as well, so it won't work that way. So the option is that you can only end the sex scene as quickly as possible.

However, I have in mind that a lesbian PC doesn't have much choice, just like Tirwin herself, and has sex on the ship.

[killer905]

34 minutes ago, BrummBear said:

 

as a side note to your discussion with sophie01 i want to point out that there is actually a bug in the current sexlab p+ (2.16.0) that causes it to lose its actors and thus not advancing the quests of this mod after the animation. in fact everything that triggers on animation end for a specific actor doesnt work anymore. this happened to me now 3 times and i started to simply live with it and advance stages with "setstage" command after the animation. this causes me to miss a tiny bit of the quest but it is what it is. P+ is simply so much better than the old sexlab that i dont wanna miss it. 

 

and now for sophie, switching from old sexlab to p+ requires you to redo basically your whole nsfw installation and you need to be carefull on several steps. if someone takes you by the hand and leads you trough the process it should be no issue, the biggest issue is all the old mod clutter you find here and all over the internet. but not waiting 10+ seconds for an animation to start is simply worth it, if u ask me.

In short, SexLab P+ in 2.16 breaks even more than before? Interesting, because one user wrote that version 2.16 already works correctly with AR.

Nevertheless, the broken features in P+ should be fixed, rather than leaving it up to the authors of other mods to come up with workarounds to make it work with P+.

That's my opinion, but not everyone may agree with it.

[eflat01]

On 1/25/2026 at 2:02 AM, tlrd said:

Would it be a bad idea to give Tirwin an outfit using Boutique - Outfit Creation and Distribution Suite?

 

I use SPID all the time, but they added an outfit system for Tirwin so I would not recommend using SPID, Skypatcher or the mod above mentioned on Tirwin at all, it will screw up AR when she's changing clothes, undresses, re-dresses etc... You really should not spid/skypatch any outfit to a follower in a framework  or any custom follower with an outfit system. 

 

I do Spid an outfit to Naryu. You can spid outfits to the other npc's the mod adds. The base game npcs used in the mod are often duplicates so they end up dressed however you dressed them in base game.

Edited January 27 by eflat01

[BrummBear]

On 1/26/2026 at 3:03 AM, killer905 said:

In short, SexLab P+ in 2.16 breaks even more than before? Interesting, because one user wrote that version 2.16 already works correctly with AR.

Nevertheless, the broken features in P+ should be fixed, rather than leaving it up to the authors of other mods to come up with workarounds to make it work with P+.

That's my opinion, but not everyone may agree with it.

 

they are actually fixing this with 2.17 afaik. but im not involved. my coding knowledge is also very limited ^^ do you know of a way to send the "animation ended" flag or whatever it is the mod needs via console? advancing stages via console often leads to me missing things. like i have no idea where that report came from i just chased after.

[killer905]

8 hours ago, BrummBear said:

 

they are actually fixing this with 2.17 afaik. but im not involved. my coding knowledge is also very limited ^^ do you know of a way to send the "animation ended" flag or whatever it is the mod needs via console? advancing stages via console often leads to me missing things. like i have no idea where that report came from i just chased after.

2.17? Well, I must be blind, because I don't see that version on Discord or LL.

I don't know the command to send this flag to SexLab, but people manage to do it with, for example, simple sexing, Mass marker, Debug from Sexlab, or SLEL. Also, any mod that allows or forces solo sex or sex with another NPC/PC or even a creature. Any of these mods causes SexLab to detect the end of sex and move the stage to the next stage.