Advanced Nudity Detection

[nilead]

12 hours ago, Fraying9981 said:

thanks, isn't it possible to get NoModesty for DD/ZaZ devices? = if the keyword is present, don't play the animation.

I believe there was a NoModesty keyword or some such? Just KID it to anything with zaDevice or whatever it is the common keyword among those and its done.  Not a perfect solution but a real quick one.

[NymphoElf]

4 hours ago, nilead said:

I believe there was a NoModesty keyword or some such? Just KID it to anything with zaDevice or whatever it is the common keyword among those and its done.  Not a perfect solution but a real quick one.

 

You missed the entire conversation

[Fraying9981]

47 minutes ago, NymphoElf said:

 

You missed the entire conversation

 

Do you know Atlas?

 

[Arkbar.]

Hahaha,

Don't worry I'm no where near into a hurry for DD support, I don't even have a working SL/dd instalation at the moment, however I try to keep it in mind as I support it in bare ( so far no complaints)

 

Maybe you'd like to check the dd ng discord to voice your concerns, or have them guide you in the best way to add support so you don't have to constantly change the code. At least for and modesty animations, you should only need to fix it once regardless of future updates. Any other scenario is either you are missing something, or they are doing something wrong

[NymphoElf]

12 hours ago, Arkbar. said:

Maybe you'd like to check the dd ng discord to voice your concerns, or have them guide you in the best way to add support so you don't have to constantly change the code.

 

There isn't really anything they can do for this specific case. It just feels like every time I think I've gotten everything something else comes up.

 

If their naming convention for objects, keywords, etc was properly standardized instead of the mess that it is, it wouldn't be quite as annoying. IMO Devious Devices needs to be completely restructured for better accessibility. I also don't think every object needs to effectively exist twice but I'm not 100% sure how the animations play into that. Perhaps it's a leftover workaround from the LE days.

 

There are so many mods that could use a complete do-over, and sadly not enough people willing to make it happen.

[BasicallyBasic]

Hello, just recently got the mod working in terms of the Nudity Detection but I think I'm running into a problem with the Simple Dynamic Modesty tracking. Might be related to the bug being fixed in 2.4.0, I don't know.

 

When using Simple Dynamic Modesty, while wearing a visible Thong at Bottom rank 1 (Comfortable), it's ticking towards a downgrade to rank 0, while it feels like I should be at neutral or even making progress towards the next rank, on account of me also spending some time naked during the time spent testing. Or am I misinterpreting this line from the guide (bolded for emphasis)?:
"Bottom 1 (Comfortable) - Covers Genitals if Genitals are exposed in any way

• Upgrade by spending time Showing Genitals and not being Bottomless
  • If Bottomless, it will take 2 hours to make progress instead of 1
• Downgrade by keeping Underwear and Genitals Covered"

I read this line as "Downgrade by keeping Underwear Covered AND Genitals Covered", and yet I'm regressing in rank despite my character showing off her underwear (thong) quite ostensibly.

Does the condition for this have to fulfill all the conditions for a Modesty animation to play? As in if I'm not visible to anyone, then that counts as keeping myself covered, and therefore time is tracked towards downgrading?

Or does the condition specifically care about AND_Underwear and AND_Thong doesn't count?

 

Or maybe there's an incompatibility? I use Dynamic Timescale, which alters the ratio between 'in-game time' and 'real-time'. Could that mess with this mod's time tracking?

 

 

I'm really sorry if this has been answered before, I tried to look through the pages and find something about this before posting, but must've missed it if it's been discussed.

 

 

[NymphoElf]

@BasicallyBasic There are timer bugs fixed in 2.4.0 so please be patient 

[BasicallyBasic]

6 minutes ago, NymphoElf said:

@BasicallyBasic There are timer bugs fixed in 2.4.0 so please be patient 

Ah, great! Thanks for the response, I can now rest at ease, knowing I'm not just being stupid  

I will be patient ^^

 

Love this mod btw, it took me some time to get it up and running, but the functionality (timing bugs aside) is exceptional and was well worth the effort to set up.

[NymphoElf]

1 hour ago, BasicallyBasic said:

Ah, great! Thanks for the response, I can now rest at ease, knowing I'm not just being stupid  

I will be patient ^^

 

Love this mod btw, it took me some time to get it up and running, but the functionality (timing bugs aside) is exceptional and was well worth the effort to set up.

 

Thank you!  I'm glad the effort is worth it. It's impossible to make something everyone will enjoy, so that's why I opted for a user-based setup. Plus KID makes it effectively "one and done" so you don't have to keep setting it up again for each playthrough.

 

If you're interested, you can try the Betas of upcoming AND versions by joining my Discord. Latest version is 2.4.0 BETA 5

Edited October 28, 2025 by NymphoElf

[BasicallyBasic]

59 minutes ago, NymphoElf said:

 

If you're interested, you can try the Betas of upcoming AND versions by joining my Discord. Latest version is 2.4.0 BETA 5

 

I'll do that if I end up not liking the direction this current playthrough takes!

I've gotten just far enough into it and feel committed enough that I don't wanna have to start over from scratch and spend hours setting up my MCM settings again right now

[Fraying9981]

I second that i love the mod too especially since i started using skyrimnet, and can feed the llm with super precise instructions based on the appearance of a character thanks to and.

 

I wish there were a scalable way to generate keyword list.

Maybe with a bodyslide bot that would load the preview for each outfit piece, take a screenshot, assign the and keyword based on the screenshot? X)

Im tempted to look into it at this point

[nunyabidnez]

I think perhaps my question might be more of a KID or SPID question, but it's kinda specific to AND.  Preface by saying I'm not terribly experienced with KID and SPID, I typically just use whatever Nexus or the modders here provide.  For AND, should I make one KID ini with all the armors and clothing I'd like AND to track, or should I make separate ones for each individual set?  Thanks in advance for any guidance, forgive my ignorance.

[NymphoElf]

16 minutes ago, nunyabidnez said:

For AND, should I make one KID ini with all the armors and clothing I'd like AND to track, or should I make separate ones for each individual set?

 

It's technically up to you. Neither way is right or wrong. I personally prefer using separate files for each armor set or mod because it's easier for me to organize and I don't have to sift through thousands of lines just to find what I want.

 

But again, it's up to you and your preferences.

Edited October 29, 2025 by NymphoElf

[nunyabidnez]

24 minutes ago, NymphoElf said:

 

It's technically up to you. Neither way is right or wrong. I personally prefer using separate files for each armor set or mod because it's easier for me to organize and I don't have to sift through thousands of lines just to find what I want.

 

But again, it's up to you and your preferences.

 

Thank you!

[IBAGadget]

What I started doing was creating a KID file that contains all the armor/clothing items I use from specific MA's - for example, I've combined all my separate KID files for C5Kev's outfits into one file. All my COCO outfits are in another file, etc. 

[Fraying9981]

On 10/27/2025 at 8:59 AM, Arkbar. said:

Your best bet right now is

https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/158250

 

All other options have too many drawbacks.

(Please report your results) 

 

So i ran prioarity check (didn't run changes for real), and it's quite good to find duplicates.

Interestingly AND and DFFMA conflict? Is this normal?

 

Spoiler

❌ Duplicate priority conflicts detected:
 - Priority 0: mods: Advanced Nudity Detection 2.0, Comprehensive First Person Animation Overhaul - CFPAO, Crawling Bleedout, Devious Devices NG v0.4.2, Drunk or drugged animations OAR, Dynamic EVGAT SkyClimb and Parkour animations, Dynamic Feminine Female Modesty Animations OAR, EVG Animated Traversal, EVG Conditional Idles, EVG Conditionals extended (injured-stamina-magicka-nakedness), Gesture Animation Remix (OAR), Look Around - Searching Animations For NPCs, OAR Sexy Move v1, PAH Diary Of Mine 7.9.4a_SE_fomod, Random death animation, SLO Aroused NG-151502-3-1-5-1754227575, Seamless Varied Masculine Idles OAR, UNDERDOG - Death Animations OAR, Vanargand Animations II - Unarmed Pugilism Stance
 - Priority 1: mods: Comprehensive First Person Animation Overhaul - CFPAO, OAR Sexy Move v1
 - Priority 2: mods: Comprehensive First Person Animation Overhaul - CFPAO, OAR Sexy Move v1
 - Priority 3: mods: Comprehensive First Person Animation Overhaul - CFPAO, OAR Sexy Move v1
 - Priority 4: mods: Comprehensive First Person Animation Overhaul - CFPAO, OAR Sexy Move v1
 - Priority 6002107: mods: Drunk or drugged animations OAR, SkyrimNet_iActions_0.3.0 (drunk state)
 - Priority 2100000001: mods: Devious Devices NG v0.4.2, PAH Diary Of Mine 7.9.4a_SE_fomod
 - Priority 2100000002: mods: Devious Devices NG v0.4.2, PAH Diary Of Mine 7.9.4a_SE_fomod
 - Priority 2100000005: mods: Devious Devices NG v0.4.2, PAH Diary Of Mine 7.9.4a_SE_fomod
 - Priority 2100000006: mods: Devious Devices NG v0.4.2, PAH Diary Of Mine 7.9.4a_SE_fomod
 - Priority 2100000007: mods: Devious Devices NG v0.4.2, PAH Diary Of Mine 7.9.4a_SE_fomod
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 - Priority 2100000301: mods: Devious Devices NG v0.4.2, PAH Diary Of Mine 7.9.4a_SE_fomod
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 - Priority 2100000502: mods: Devious Devices NG v0.4.2, PAH Diary Of Mine 7.9.4a_SE_fomod
 - Priority 2123000909: mods: Advanced Nudity Detection 2.0, Dynamic Feminine Female Modesty Animations OAR
 - Priority 2123000910: mods: Advanced Nudity Detection 2.0, Dynamic Feminine Female Modesty Animations OAR
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[Arkbar.]

Yes, 
DFFMA OAR configurations are completely overwritten by AND OAR configurations.

 

DFFMA, use  some modesty/nomodesty keywords to determine whether or not to cover, AND redoes all of this to use both AND status and the modesty ranks to determine whether or not to use the modesty animations. If this is a problem for priOARity, just delete the conflicting configuration files from DFFMA 

[Fraying9981]

10 hours ago, Arkbar. said:

Yes, 
DFFMA OAR configurations are completely overwritten by AND OAR configurations.

 

DFFMA, use  some modesty/nomodesty keywords to determine whether or not to cover, AND redoes all of this to use both AND status and the modesty ranks to determine whether or not to use the modesty animations. If this is a problem for priOARity, just delete the conflicting configuration files from DFFMA 

 

thanks! that's most helpful.

 

I have ran PriOARity, not yet tested in game, but it does solve conflicts and allow to reorder manually which is great. Some users reported increase in performance because apparently conflicts generate stutter.

[nilead]

- Adds MCM ability to permanently store Female NPC Modesty Data in a separate Json File which is automatically imported on new saves.
>>Females that are on the Permanent/Persistent List can be removed from the save-specific list, but will be re-imported from the Permanent Females file if detected by the system again.

 Now this is a very wellcome change, and a very impactfull one. Cheers.

[MysticDaedra]

I see that it says to delete older JSON files, but I can't find any. Should this be cause for concern? There is no Advanced Nudity Detection folder under data/SKSE/plugins/StorageUtilData.

Edited November 1, 2025 by MysticDaedra

[Arkbar.]

The delete of the json files is mostly for people who were using the betas. 

previous releases did not have NPC/Follower modesty configuration, therefore no json files. 

 

I don't recall if the previous release also had NPC modesty, the Discord betas for sure had

[NymphoElf]

7 hours ago, MysticDaedra said:

I see that it says to delete older JSON files, but I can't find any. Should this be cause for concern? There is no Advanced Nudity Detection folder under data/SKSE/plugins/StorageUtilData.

 

You should be fine.

[habilon]

Hey there, just seeing the big 'dont use 2.4.0' and wondering how bad is it, like what can I expect to have happen if I tried to use my save I just finished updating mods in yesterday?

curious as if its game breaking then new save it is, if it just makes the mod not work properly after updating it to 2.4.2 then I would continue using my current save to save me the hours of reconfiguring my mods in a new save again.

 

to be clear all I did in game was update the mods, didnt leave the cell I was in nor do anything with my character, I just got back from vacation, did mod updates, and quit out.

[NymphoElf]

19 minutes ago, habilon said:

Hey there, just seeing the big 'dont use 2.4.0' and wondering how bad is it, like what can I expect to have happen if I tried to use my save I just finished updating mods in yesterday?

 

So, my mod is flagged as "Light" which requires something called a "Form ID" to be within a specific range. If it is not within that range, the game can overwrite the parts outside of that range with other data and cause potentially major issues with the save, and trying to remove the mod or add new ones WILL corrupt the save, causing unpredictable issues.

 

However, let's say you've been doing a playthrough for a while and have made 20 saves BEFORE adding 2.4.0 (meaning save 21+ is unrecoverable) - you can go back to save #20 if you haven't deleted it yet instead of throwing ALL of them out.

 

24 minutes ago, habilon said:

curious as if its game breaking then new save it is, if it just makes the mod not work properly after updating it to 2.4.2 then I would continue using my current save to save me the hours of reconfiguring my mods in a new save again.

 

to be clear all I did in game was update the mods, didnt leave the cell I was in nor do anything with my character, I just got back from vacation, did mod updates, and quit out.

 

If you made any extra saves after adding 2.4.0, the extra saves need to be deleted. If you didn't then you should be able to replace 2.4.0 without issues.

[habilon]

49 minutes ago, NymphoElf said:

 

So, my mod is flagged as "Light" which requires something called a "Form ID" to be within a specific range. If it is not within that range, the game can overwrite the parts outside of that range with other data and cause potentially major issues with the save, and trying to remove the mod or add new ones WILL corrupt the save, causing unpredictable issues.

 

However, let's say you've been doing a playthrough for a while and have made 20 saves BEFORE adding 2.4.0 (meaning save 21+ is unrecoverable) - you can go back to save #20 if you haven't deleted it yet instead of throwing ALL of them out.

 

 

If you made any extra saves after adding 2.4.0, the extra saves need to be deleted. If you didn't then you should be able to replace 2.4.0 without issues.

 

Ok so the issues are unknown but could corrupt the game, yeah I dont have any saves before adding it, dumb move on my part to update and then update and update and overide my saves as I went T.T but alas this is all part of modding for me and risks I take. thanks for the quick reply