Advanced Nudity Detection

[telord]

I have massif stutter ingame that are all pointing to A.N.D., i looked up my savegame and i got 120 suspend stack about "OnObjectEquipped" and "OnObjectUnequipped".

Also, for some reason, i can't use the MCM menu, it end up lagging if i open it up and then no more MCM menu are usable anymore until i go out and restart the game.

Is there any compatibility issue with AND? Any mod that could conflict with it that could create that?

Brand new game, barely been playing for 15min and it start stutering. Doesn't matter if i'm outside or inside, stutter happend every 120sec or so.

Not my CPU/GPU struggling as i was in a cave with lots of headroom, but the game still stutered,

I'm on skyrimVR by the way.

I included my savefile in case that can be usefull.

 

Save17_9F59E439_0_54656C6F7264_HelgenKeep01_000057_20251201043739_2_1.rar

[NymphoElf]

16 hours ago, telord said:

I'm on skyrimVR by the way.

 

I don't support VR.

 

16 hours ago, telord said:

"OnObjectEquipped" and "OnObjectUnequipped"

 

You or some other mod is equipping and unequipping items too fast. This mod doesn't equip or unequip things.

[telord]

Damn, i was so looking forward to have AND and OSL Aroused working together. 

Sad, your mod sound amazing.

Tks for the answer

 

Edit: NVM, i was using 2.5.1 for some reason, i guess this is something i dll way back with intention to maybe using it, and after OSL Aroused started supporting AND, i got it installed without downloading the newer version. 
It seem to work fine now, i'm in VR and detection is working on my PC, so it's probably working on NPC too.
Tks for an awesome mod XD

Edited December 2, 2025 by telord

[no_way]

can a piece of armor/clothing occupy more than one layer?   I'm trying to set up all my revealing outfits for top/bottom to cover like bra/panties, but ALSO be chest curtains for the top and miniskirts for the bottom, so that it kind of randomizes if bystanders notice your cleavage/ass and report you to the guards in Sexy Adventures

[Fraying9981]

Hi,

 

I'm sorry I did not find this info in the readme files, but is there a shame tracking for NPCs too, not just the player?

 

Also is it safe to update mid game from 2.0 to 2.5.7?

[monsta88]

Hi there!

 

Would you consider this as Miniskirt, or Microskirt?

 

 

 

In case of Micro, do I need to add other keywords, like in case of Mini? From the Keyword guidebook:

AND_Miniskirt(_Male)

• Counts as a Pelvic Curtain and Ass Curtain at the same time. Therefore the PelvicCurtain and AssCurtain keywords are not needed when this keyword is used, but still needs both PelvicFlashRisk and AssFlashRisk keywords for full functionality.

AND_Microskirt(_Male)

• Only prevents character from being considered Bottomless, and therefore prevents being Nude. Does not prevent any other conditions. There is no transparent version because it’s unnecessary.

 

 

[IBAGadget]

I would call that a MicroSkirt, and you don't need any other keywords - it doesn't really cover anything, so everyone is going to be able to see your underwear (or lack thereof). If you are not wearing any underwear, then everyone is going to be able to see your ass and genitals.

[monsta88]

31 minutes ago, IBAGadget said:

I would call that a MicroSkirt

 

I went with that too, but I added AssFlashRisk_High and PelvicFlashRisk_High too, because as the picture shows, it does cover most of the ass, at least when not moving.

[IBAGadget]

8 hours ago, monsta88 said:

 

I went with that too, but I added AssFlashRisk_High and PelvicFlashRisk_High too, because as the picture shows, it does cover most of the ass, at least when not moving.

The FlashRisk is pointless, because the MicroSkirt is not considered Curtains that periodically hide what's underneath - it's short enough that what a curtain would cover is always exposed, even if you are standing still.

[ibnwater]

Will this work on LE?

 

2 LE mods have directed me to this mod, now here I is see it is for SSE. On page 6 someone said that it works fine on LE, but a lot can change in a short time.

 

Can someone in the knowing let me know if this current version works on LE?

 

Thanks in advance!

[IBAGadget]

21 minutes ago, ibnwater said:

Will this work on LE?

 

2 LE mods have directed me to this mod, now here I is see it is for SSE. On page 6 someone said that it works fine on LE, but a lot can change in a short time.

 

Can someone in the knowing let me know if this current version works on LE?

 

Thanks in advance!

According to the main page that you should have already read:

 

Regular Edition Compatible

No

 

also, if you looked at the mod on Nexus (where the latest version is located), you would see that it requires certain SSE mods that are incompatible with SLE

[Meowmixcatnip]

are there any repositories where people are sharing their ini files? that would be wonderful 

[NymphoElf]

On 12/15/2025 at 12:04 AM, no_way said:

can a piece of armor/clothing occupy more than one layer?   I'm trying to set up all my revealing outfits for top/bottom to cover like bra/panties, but ALSO be chest curtains for the top and miniskirts for the bottom, so that it kind of randomizes if bystanders notice your cleavage/ass and report you to the guards in Sexy Adventures

 

Yes, a single item can occupy multiple layers. However, it might be tricky to set this up properly depending on what you're trying to achieve.

 

The best way to think about these objects is to simply think about the keywords individually and ask yourself "Does this keyword fit for what this armor is covering?" If the answer is YES (and you don't already have another keyword of the same type) then it will probably work the way you want.

[NymphoElf]

9 minutes ago, Meowmixcatnip said:

are there any repositories where people are sharing their ini files? that would be wonderful 

 

Read the main post again...

[Meowmixcatnip]

thanks. We have duplicates of dx fashion fetish vol 1 and 2 

[no_way]

6 hours ago, NymphoElf said:

 

Yes, a single item can occupy multiple layers. However, it might be tricky to set this up properly depending on what you're trying to achieve.

 

The best way to think about these objects is to simply think about the keywords individually and ask yourself "Does this keyword fit for what this armor is covering?" If the answer is YES (and you don't already have another keyword of the same type) then it will probably work the way you want.

Awesome, I think I got it working to basically simulate lecherous onlookers occasionally noticing that someone's wearing a thong/has too much cleavage, and reporting it as a crime.  Great mod.  

[Ursur1major]

Is there a way to have AND ignore the Inventory Item for Devious Devices, or are there any tips for how to add keywords to Inventory Items?

I'm using "Quick Armor Rebalance" to add keywords as I play and while I can add keywords to one half of the device since I can't add them to the Inventory Item it doesn't really matter.

[IBAGadget]

31 minutes ago, Ursur1major said:

Is there a way to have AND ignore the Inventory Item for Devious Devices, or are there any tips for how to add keywords to Inventory Items?

I'm using "Quick Armor Rebalance" to add keywords as I play and while I can add keywords to one half of the device since I can't add them to the Inventory Item it doesn't really matter.

Why not just use the DD KID file found in this thread: 

 

[Ursur1major]

13 minutes ago, IBAGadget said:

Why not just use the DD KID file found in this thread: 

 

I am using that one, but there are a lot of devices not covered by it, such as the new devices in Devious Devices NG, and the parasites from Sexlab Parasites.

[NymphoElf]

4 hours ago, Ursur1major said:

Is there a way to have AND ignore the Inventory Item for Devious Devices, or are there any tips for how to add keywords to Inventory Items?

I'm using "Quick Armor Rebalance" to add keywords as I play and while I can add keywords to one half of the device since I can't add them to the Inventory Item it doesn't really matter.

 

Inventory items shouldn't need keywords because those aren't what's equipped to your character

[Ursur1major]

31 minutes ago, NymphoElf said:

 

Inventory items shouldn't need keywords because those aren't what's equipped to your character

I see, that makes sense just odd then that when I gave keywords to a device it didn't seem to do anything.

[NymphoElf]

35 minutes ago, Ursur1major said:

I see, that makes sense just odd then that when I gave keywords to a device it didn't seem to do anything.

 

I understand. Devious Devices is notoriously tricky to work with due to their odd equip system. Sadly I don't have much advice to offer right now.

 

Also, why were you wanting to add "AND_Ignore" ? Are you sure you're using that keyword correctly?

[Ursur1major]

1 hour ago, NymphoElf said:

 

Also, why were you wanting to add "AND_Ignore" ? Are you sure you're using that keyword correctly?

I did? I don't think I ever mentioned that Keyword.
Edit: Ohyeah, I did ask if AND could ignore a thing but that doesn't seem necessary from what has been explained.

Edited January 26 by Ursur1major

[Ursur1major]

Here is an example of what I have issues with:

As you can see the Device has the Keywords, but they do not appear to be doing anything, not even registered by ANDs MCM.

And Here you can see that AND seems to think my character is fully clothed, despite me not having anything equipped that should cover me.

[IBAGadget]

Couple things to check:

 

What slots do the ZK Rogue Hood and Pauldrons take up?
What keywords are on those pieces?

What about your footwear?

A lot of times mod added footwear will be assigned to the body slot so that:

 A: It can be worn with many other different clothing pieces that cover different parts of the body

 B: Vanilla game naked yes/no check will consider you fully clothed as long as you are wearing shoes

One more little thing I just noticed - if the 'convert to' means what I think it means, the game thinks you are wearing Noble Cloth, not what you are actually wearing