PAF Fixes and Addons

[The Blacksmith]

On 3/14/2025 at 11:23 PM, leSigh_86 said:

I like the idea of Comment Manager, but the voices are very obviously older AI voices. Any chance we can get a newer voice with AI from the last year or so? I'd be willing to donate some cash to pay for the use of more professional sounding AI

+1 I would also

[Dg75]

On 3/14/2025 at 10:23 PM, leSigh_86 said:

I like the idea of Comment Manager, but the voices are very obviously older AI voices. Any chance we can get a newer voice with AI from the last year or so? I'd be willing to donate some cash to pay for the use of more professional sounding AI

 

5 hours ago, The Blacksmith said:

+1 I would also

They were made on an older version of VA synthesizer. I agree they need an overhaul. I'm currently finalizing a big update for Dominator mod

and maybe look into it after. Mean time - - Its not that hard to make your own new lines, Comment Manager LL page has modders resource that gives

detailed instruction how to make comments for CM, alas tweaking to perfection may be different story. Can take a lot patience!

 

If anybody wants to have go at it, I'll help anyway I can. .  Make some good SexTalk lines ?

 

[leSigh_86]

So I just spent an hour trying to find a good platform. There are good voice customizers, and good emoters, and software that takes some "direction" (ie., "again but slower"), but I haven't found one that does all three. I think elevenlabs may be the best bet. 

[nefer385]

Hello,

 

This is moreso a question just so that I can rule out any other issues.  I am running into a weird issue that each time my character tries to pee, I get a CTD.  The character can excrete waste from the bowels without an issue.  I ran it through FNIS successfully multiple times.  I then attempted to run it through NEMESIS instead, successfully ran through it.  Each time no matter which Animation tool that I use the game CTDs when the character urinates.  The question that I have do I need the Private Needs Redone installed and active in my load order in order to utilize Private Needs Orgasm.  I did not see any requirements for it, but figured I should check here first before I start tampering with my load order.   

 

Also to be fair it looks like I am also having CTD issues with Bathing in Skyrim Renewed as well, so this may be some really weird crap that is happening outside of this mod.

 

Starting to think it is some weird crap with my load order all of a sudden!

[clubnickamal]

I have Pee And Fart v4.0 installed. I have the game version 1.5.97. What should I install next, because I don't understand. Please explain in order

Edited March 17, 2025 by clubnickamal

[Dg75]

On 3/16/2025 at 1:41 PM, nefer385 said:

Hello,

 

This is moreso a question just so that I can rule out any other issues.  I am running into a weird issue that each time my character tries to pee, I get a CTD.  The character can excrete waste from the bowels without an issue.  I ran it through FNIS successfully multiple times.  I then attempted to run it through NEMESIS instead, successfully ran through it.  Each time no matter which Animation tool that I use the game CTDs when the character urinates.  The question that I have do I need the Private Needs Redone installed and active in my load order in order to utilize Private Needs Orgasm.  I did not see any requirements for it, but figured I should check here first before I start tampering with my load order.   

 

Also to be fair it looks like I am also having CTD issues with Bathing in Skyrim Renewed as well, so this may be some really weird crap that is happening outside of this mod.

 

Starting to think it is some weird crap with my load order all of a sudden!

CDT problems are a bummer. I promise you their is a reason. Just gotta figure out what it is. More than likely its due to missing files.

Running fnis or nemesis not going to solve that problem though.  You probably got some script trying to reference an in game object that dont exist.

Wierd though it cdt when peeing, and Bathing  - maybe related to textures

Privet needs orgasm is the recommended mod to use, PFA has integration 

with it and can use its awesome pee streams. Its optional but highly recommended. Only use pfa's mcm pno integration option if you have pno installed

if you install it make sure you are not using pno's pfa patch. lol is that confusing or what ?

[Dg75]

On 3/17/2025 at 10:14 AM, clubnickamal said:

I have Pee And Fart v4.0 installed. I have the game version 1.5.97. What should I install next, because I don't understand. Please explain in order

 

 

SkyUi

Bees mod found on nexus if you are on old 1.5.97 of skyrim, otherwise shit wont work!

SexLab && SKSE - make sure they are correct version for you game

 

Pee and Fart 4.0 - and all its requirements:

RaceMenue - on the nexus

Slave Tats - find on LL

Stroti Toilet Resource Mod for SSE  - find on the nexus

 

Paf Fixes and Addons.

PFA_VoicePackMain - found on PFA's download page - its link to mega.

 

optional:

Any other mods PFA listens for - like Dooty mod - use pfa's patch. Or Keep it clean mod use PFA's patch. 

 

Edited March 18, 2025 by Dg75

[Josensen]

Hey, might it be that this mod is not corresponding with DD (or DD NG) well? Even if I only have a piercing on its not possible to pee saying "You are not ready to do that now". Is there a configuration missing that only those devices blocking that makes sense?

[Dez65]

On 2/16/2025 at 5:01 AM, Dez65 said:

Yeah, I know I should have updated by now. 

Updated to 1.6.1170.  Started with testing the unofficial BIS along with PAF 4.0.  Everything worked fine.  Decided to test BIS Renewed with PFA and already got a freeze up like I got with 1.5.97.  I'm folloowing Aylis' mod list.

 

You previously mentioned disabling Comments Manager in game.  I'll try that but I love the features it provides.

[Dg75]

22 hours ago, Josensen said:

Hey, might it be that this mod is not corresponding with DD (or DD NG) well? Even if I only have a piercing on its not possible to pee saying "You are not ready to do that now". Is there a configuration missing that only those devices blocking that makes sense?

PFA only detects any Devices that would interfere with the paf idle, like armbinders, and also detects plugs and chasity, nothing else.

A piercing should not be triggering that. Even if it did you would get a worn DD message and not "You are not ready to do that now"

That message you get is because its failing conditions to paf. Make sure your on the latest version pfa. Conditions that would trigger it are

in combat, animating in some other way like sitting, swimming, or Sexlab not enabled or sexlab has your pc animating, or older version pfa . . 

Edited March 21, 2025 by Dg75

[Dg75]

18 hours ago, Dez65 said:

Updated to 1.6.1170.  Started with testing the unofficial BIS along with PAF 4.0.  Everything worked fine.  Decided to test BIS Renewed with PFA and already got a freeze up like I got with 1.5.97.  I'm folloowing Aylis' mod list.

 

You previously mentioned disabling Comments Manager in game.  I'll try that but I love the features it provides.

Their are some bad texture mods or armor mods than can cause problems!! I just recently uninstalled an armor mod that had textures

blowing through the roof, causing me freezes and stutters when moving the camera.

also running window Game bar with Norton 360 game thingy had caused me freezups

 

I really don't think comment manager is your culprit.

if it was you krank it down a few notches in its mcm by adding some cooldown time between npc commentary if you think it necessary

 

I cannot vouch for Bis renewed as I don't use it myself. I use KIC and my patch . But Bis renewed supposedly listens and integrates with pfa.

 

I just browsed through the above mod list, i do use a lot of them, and I didn't see anything wrong with it except it didnt list any needs mods

like PFA.... lol

 

Edited March 21, 2025 by Dg75

[Dez65]

3 hours ago, Dg75 said:

I really don't think comment manager is your culprit.

I decided to keep testing without making changes and haven't gotten another freeze up .  I'm still early in the new load order and only have BD 3BA and TAWOBA installed, along with the vanilla clothes, so I don't think it's that.  I only use the Nividia overlay and only for FPS and that's never given me any trouble.  I don't use Norton 360 - went with Windows Defender a long time ago mainly because of reported issues with modding.

 

Could be a bad texture mod, but I haven't seen any reports at Aylis' topic on freeze ups.

 

May be totally coincidental but the freeze up happened during the first load after installing the BIS Renewed and PFA.  Still, I love the features in your mod so I'm going to keep it in the test.

 

Yea, I kept my old standbyes of iNeed, Campfire, Frosbite and PAF.  Tried some others, but there were all missing some feature I liked.  Also, a guy on the Frostbite page has been expanding the heat sources for that mod, finally adding the volcanic vents, which is a huge improvement.

 

Thanks for getting back to me!  I'll keep you updated.

[alain31]

Hello,

I'm using your PAF_ZakiDBCTextures patch for the original version of Pee and Fart. You say it can be used as is.
But it doesn't work in the original version.
I think it's because of the PAF_PlayerAliasScript.
The CleanPFA[0] = Game.GetFormFromFile(0x00000803, "Dirt and Blood - Dynamic Visuals.esp") as MagicEffect function is missing in the original file.
Would it be possible for you to make a patch if you have time for the original PAF?

I don't want to update my game version. Version 1.5.97 is stable for me, and i have too many mods to update, some of which won't work on AE and i'm sick of Todd too

[Dg75]

15 hours ago, alain31 said:

Hello,

I'm using your PAF_ZakiDBCTextures patch for the original version of Pee and Fart. You say it can be used as is.
But it doesn't work in the original version.
I think it's because of the PAF_PlayerAliasScript.
The CleanPFA[0] = Game.GetFormFromFile(0x00000803, "Dirt and Blood - Dynamic Visuals.esp") as MagicEffect function is missing in the original file.
Would it be possible for you to make a patch if you have time for the original PAF?

I don't want to update my game version. Version 1.5.97 is stable for me, and i have too many mods to update, some of which won't work on AE and i'm sick of Todd too

I'll have to look back at what I had done with the zaki patch's, and get back with you.

[golden16]

I'm curious if anyone would be willing to make a MinAI compatibility patch for PAF. There's an API documented here that explains how to make the AI aware of PAF's needs and even hook in to let the AI do PAF actions.

 

I've been promising lydia I'd pee down her throat for a while but without any integration she won't be aware when I start peeing XD.

 

I might get around to doing this myself, but all of my modding experience is in C#/unity, so I'm a bit deterred by having to learn a new language/workflow just to make this patch.

[alain31]

On 3/22/2025 at 8:06 AM, Dg75 said:

I'll have to look back at what I had done with the zaki patch's, and get back with you.

Hi,
It would be great if you could make a patch that works for the original version.
For now, the Slavetats texture disappears when you go into the water.
Thanks.

[Dg75]

11 hours ago, alain31 said:

Hi,
It would be great if you could make a patch that works for the original version.
For now, the Slavetats texture disappears when you go into the water.
Thanks.

are sure its not supposed to. Swimming or even wading in water cleans off paf. 

[alain31]

6 hours ago, Dg75 said:

are sure its not supposed to. Swimming or even wading in water cleans off paf. 

Sorry, i didn't express myself well. English isn't my native language.
I meant that even if the PAF_ZakiDBCTextures patch doesn't work, it's okay because the tattoo paf fades when i go in the water.
But it would be nice if it could be cleaned at the same time as the dirt, blood, and cum.

[Dg75]

On 3/21/2025 at 10:09 AM, alain31 said:

Hello,

I'm using your PAF_ZakiDBCTextures patch for the original version of Pee and Fart. You say it can be used as is.
But it doesn't work in the original version.
I think it's because of the PAF_PlayerAliasScript.
The CleanPFA[0] = Game.GetFormFromFile(0x00000803, "Dirt and Blood - Dynamic Visuals.esp") as MagicEffect function is missing in the original file.
Would it be possible for you to make a patch if you have time for the original PAF?

I don't want to update my game version. Version 1.5.97 is stable for me, and i have too many mods to update, some of which won't work on AE and i'm sick of Todd too

 

The patch should be working on original version of pee and fart, whenever DBC cleans its stuff the zaki patch should call on Pee and fart to clean its stuff. 

Please confirm this works. And Im seeing differant version of DBC . Their is an expanded patch and a texture patch . . which one do you use ?

I didn't make the zaki patches to work the way around.  

It does not require nor use The CleanPFA[0] as stated above - as that was made specifically for Dirt and Blood and only for PFA.

 

I recompiled and re-uploaded the zaki patch's. I dont  think they are any different than before, I re worded the code i bit,

but essentially same thing.  I did browse through DBC scripts and it looks as if that mod should detect you getting in water or

swimming and should clean dbc stuff, paf also detects getting in water and should clean paf stuff.

Their is really nothing else to do with it. It should be working.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited March 26, 2025 by Dg75

[snitch123]

Been a while.. had no time to play much, and I skipped a few versions. Nice new stuff here. 👍

Unfortunately running into a bit of an issue lately. Seems like the stream doesn't unequip from tracked NPCs after accidents fairly often. Wonder if its related to PNO. I'm using it alongside PFA while letting PFA take full control of it through MCM. (and not using PNO's patch)

Had a quick idea. Could it be made so that if the player character uses a toilet (either dooty or any of the stroti's placed ones) , it automatically "uses" toilet paper ? Without needing to have one in your inventory. Basically the outhouses/whatever else already having toilet paper there. That could be a good little feature.

I also noticed the peeing animations seem longer again ? At least compared to a few version back.
Wonder if it would be possible to make them a bit shorter again if it's not too much bother.. Maybe as an optional thing ?
I feel like peeing takes an eternity sometimes 😂
 

[Dg75]

1 hour ago, snitch123 said:

Been a while.. had no time to play much, and I skipped a few versions. Nice new stuff here. 👍

Unfortunately running into a bit of an issue lately. Seems like the stream doesn't unequip from tracked NPCs after accidents fairly often. Wonder if its related to PNO. I'm using it alongside PFA while letting PFA take full control of it through MCM. (and not using PNO's patch)

Had a quick idea. Could it be made so that if the player character uses a toilet (either dooty or any of the stroti's placed ones) , it automatically "uses" toilet paper ? Without needing to have one in your inventory. Basically the outhouses/whatever else already having toilet paper there. That could be a good little feature.

I also noticed the peeing animations seem longer again ? At least compared to a few version back.
Wonder if it would be possible to make them a bit shorter again if it's not too much bother.. Maybe as an optional thing ?
I feel like peeing takes an eternity sometimes 😂
 

Snitch! Ha Thought you gave up on me.  Glad your back, you are my favorite critic, just so you know.

 

Well pee stream not unequipping -just when accidents ? I use Pno as well, and haven't noticed it, but I'll look into it.

is it normally a specific follower - each follower has their own script - they should be identical in structure but. .

I know pno uses effects rather than armor equipable pee like paf used. PNO pee has a duration, if it fails to stop when supposed to it 

stops when the effect wears off. I wonder if thats whats going on ? In this case may be something in the script preventing it.

 

a good idea, about tp in the outhouses. its plausible! Be really nice if someone could rig up a tp holder or something

 

Peeing takes longer, are you still pee only ?  As I know when fully paffing the pee streams didnt stop until after done with the other bit. 

I have that fixed , but have not uploaded yet.  If its pee only taking longer, then that be different functions, I'll need to take a look at them.

 

 

Edited March 26, 2025 by Dg75

[Dg75]

2 hours ago, snitch123 said:

Been a while.. had no time to play much, and I skipped a few versions. Nice new stuff here. 👍

Unfortunately running into a bit of an issue lately. Seems like the stream doesn't unequip from tracked NPCs after accidents fairly often. Wonder if its related to PNO. I'm using it alongside PFA while letting PFA take full control of it through MCM. (and not using PNO's patch)

Had a quick idea. Could it be made so that if the player character uses a toilet (either dooty or any of the stroti's placed ones) , it automatically "uses" toilet paper ? Without needing to have one in your inventory. Basically the outhouses/whatever else already having toilet paper there. That could be a good little feature.

I also noticed the peeing animations seem longer again ? At least compared to a few version back.
Wonder if it would be possible to make them a bit shorter again if it's not too much bother.. Maybe as an optional thing ?
I feel like peeing takes an eternity sometimes 😂
 

Ha I found it. Like a needle in a hay stack. Yup its in the Leek functions - these are the accidents - their be two functions to call - UnEquip tink 

and then after dressing - Remove tink, The Un equip tink one just unequips(and also calls on PNO to stop peeing) and remove tink actually would remove 

pafs armor item pee, which pno dont  use. I at one time split the functions to prevent npc from dressing early as the game auto updated their outfits

when a item is script removed - so the unequip first then dress then remove - except I never needed that when accident because npc didnt undress anyways

So thos functions never had the needed unequip call that pno needs to stop peeing. The effect timer was wearing off on you, and thats the only reason peeing stopped 

at all.    😃

 

I'll get it fixed and up asap!

 

Edited March 26, 2025 by Dg75

[alain31]

17 hours ago, Dg75 said:

Their is really nothing else to do with it. It should be working.

Hi,
The rinse function works fine for both PAF and Dirt Blood and Cum when i go into the water.
It's the rinse function with the spell when the character cleans themselves with soap or a glove that doesn't work for PAF.
I use this one Zaki Dirt and Blood Textures for DBC 1.0 8k
https://www.loverslab.com/files/file/26456-zaki-dirt-and-blood-textures-for-dirt-blood-cum-racemenu-overlays/

Edited March 26, 2025 by alain31

[alain31]

On 3/27/2025 at 1:03 AM, Dg75 said:

Try these if you use Zaki or Zaki textures

Hello,
Thanks for trying to make it work.
With the PAFNoPFA_ZakiDBCTextures script, it removes the texture from PAF, but it comes back right after the animation ends.

[Rick1910]

I've been trying to get bathing in skyrim to work and so far it doesn't want to shower or bathe at all. The thing is the dirtyness filter along with the debuffs are working and it detects PaF but no matter what I can't get the status check or any of the animations to trigger no matter what body of water i'm in. If anyone can help me that would be great or should I move on to older mods like Keep it clean?

Edited March 28, 2025 by Rick1910