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sorry for keep asking but, i managed install and make it work. my problem is the hotkeys doest do anything even if i change the number. also if the scene happened its kinda looping, cant end the scene and cant advance the scene. 

Posted (edited)
On 1/20/2024 at 9:13 PM, plughead said:

This is an awesome concept. Out of curiosity, have you thought of utilizing the custom skill framework over replacing the speech-craft tree? If compatibility is the goal, I imagine that would make it far easier to work with for people already using skill overhauls. Especially stuff like Vokriinator Black which mixes multiple perk mods.

 

Yesterday I made a patch of Vorkriinator Black for myself, didn't get to test it properly bc I'm not going to use it for the time being (Sexlab P+ is too incompatible for me to switch over) but all perks display correctly with their links and requirements. Still needs better placement, Vorkiinator is messy already. PM me if you are interested.

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11 hours ago, kidleader96 said:

sorry for keep asking but, i managed install and make it work. my problem is the hotkeys doest do anything even if i change the number. also if the scene happened its kinda looping, cant end the scene and cant advance the scene. 

 

Hotkey changes only take effect after loading an existing save. You can do it quickly by pressing F5 (for quick save) and F9 (for quick load).

Sexcraft only starts the scene and nothing else. If your scene loops it is caused either by:

- An incorrect installation of SL P+.

- Your settings. Try to change the orgasm mode to "legacy" instead of "scene" (or something like that, I don't have my PC nearby to check).

Posted (edited)
8 hours ago, xtrange988 said:

Yesterday I made a patch of Vorkriinator Black for myself.

 

That's great! If you or anyone else creates a patch and would like to share it, post it here and I'll add a link to it in the description.

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Posted (edited)
16 hours ago, SNK_1 said:

 

That's great! If you or anyone else creates a patch and would like to share it, post it here and I'll add a link to it in the description.

 

Here it is. As I said I only tested once with console commands leveling up Speechcraft to get all the perks. After getting Curves 5/5 my character became a fat cow, so it works. I could not test further because I don't have Sexlab +P installed.

The distribution is messy but I could link all to perks without problems. I had to tie some of them to other perks that made sense to me, As result it's not as easy to complete as the base version, but that's the way Vokriinator works.

 

Vokriinator has 4 main branches: merchant, support bard, beast tamer and thum that's more oriented to combat.  Now there are 5 main branches + a  small one that replaces and expands upon the Sly perk (Bribe guards) that was alone in a corner. So you will now use Basic Instinct to bribe and then you can get Wandering Hands (I considered moving Wandering Hands to the Pickpocket Tree but I don't know if that could do more harm than good).

Curves replaces the start perk as it also improves prices and replaces the Persuasion boost lost with the Bribe perk gone.

Benefits is now tied to the merchant branch way up at level 70, potentially OP as it overlaps with the other NPC gold perks.

Perverted Thirst, Pheromones, Fascination and Sex Demon now have their own branch that starts after taking Perform & Serenade, it made sense to me, these are also low level seduction perks. You continue from there to  Pillow Talk.

Exhibitionism and Lust Control are more combat oriented perks. These are linked to And The Universe Listens since it's a branch that provides stamina regeneration and other combat buffs and thum buffs.

 

Load order should be:
Sexcraft

Mysticism - v2.3.1
SPERG - v1.8
Adamant - v5.8.3
Path of Sorcery - v2.7
Vokrii - v3.8.2
Vokrii - Mysticism 2 patch
Ordinator - v9.31.0
Ordinator - Combat Styles - ESL - v1.08
Vokriinator Black 

Sexcraft Vokriinator Patch

 

There are other small changes to  some Vokriinator perk names like Protect Your God > Protect Your Goddess, Crown of the False King > Crown of the False Queen and so on.

Important note: Because the base perk has been replaced, there are no perks that improve your Intimidation success rate, doesn't bother me at since Sexcraft has better mechanics to compensate.

I forgot to change the tree name, it's still Speech, easy to do in xEdit.

 

To finalize, it still needs proper perk realignment to look prettier and I will probably not get back to it until there's a Sexlab 1.65 version of Sexcraft or Sexlab P+ gets a stable and and more compatible release.

If anybody wants to improve it or fix any issue, no need to ask, do whatever you feel like.

That's about all. 

 

 

Sexcraft Vokriinator Patch.rar

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Load order
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On 1/25/2024 at 3:19 AM, xtrange988 said:

 

Here it is. As I said I only tested once with console commands leveling up Speechcraft to get all the perks. After getting Curves 5/5 my character became a fat cow, so it works. I could not test further because I don't have Sexlab +P installed.

The distribution is messy but I could link all to perks without problems. I had to tie some of them to other perks that made sense to me, As result it's not as easy to complete as the base version, but that's the way Vokriinator works.

 

Vokriinator has 4 main branches: merchant, support bard, beast tamer and thum that's more oriented to combat.  Now there are 5 main branches + a  small one that replaces and expands upon the Sly perk (Bribe guards) that was alone in a corner. So you will now use Basic Instinct to bribe and then you can get Wandering Hands (I considered moving Wandering Hands to the Pickpocket Tree but I don't know if that could do more harm than good).

Curves replaces the start perk as it also improves prices and replaces the Persuasion boost lost with the Bribe perk gone.

Benefits is now tied to the merchant branch way up at level 70, potentially OP as it overlaps with the other NPC gold perks.

Perverted Thirst, Pheromones, Fascination and Sex Demon now have their own branch that starts after taking Perform & Serenade, it made sense to me, these are also low level seduction perks. You continue from there to  Pillow Talk.

Exhibitionism and Lust Control are more combat oriented perks. These are linked to And The Universe Listens since it's a branch that provides stamina regeneration and other combat buffs and thum buffs.

 

Load order should be:
Sexcraft

Mysticism - v2.3.1
SPERG - v1.8
Adamant - v5.8.3
Path of Sorcery - v2.7
Vokrii - v3.8.2
Vokrii - Mysticism 2 patch
Ordinator - v9.31.0
Ordinator - Combat Styles - ESL - v1.08
Vokriinator Black 

Sexcraft Vokriinator Patch

 

There are other small changes to  some Vokriinator perk names like Protect Your God > Protect Your Goddess, Crown of the False King > Crown of the False Queen and so on.

Important note: Because the base perk has been replaced, there are no perks that improve your Intimidation success rate, doesn't bother me at since Sexcraft has better mechanics to compensate.

I forgot to change the tree name, it's still Speech, easy to do in xEdit.

 

To finalize, it still needs proper perk realignment to look prettier and I will probably not get back to it until there's a Sexlab 1.65 version of Sexcraft or Sexlab P+ gets a stable and and more compatible release.

If anybody wants to improve it or fix any issue, no need to ask, do whatever you feel like.

That's about all. 

 

 

Sexcraft Vokriinator Patch.rar 5.31 kB · 22 downloads

thanks for patch and introducing me to Vokriinator Black 

and i learned about https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/56396 by making most of its requirement  ESL and eps-esl flagged and its all Just Works

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I don't know where else to ask this so here we go, are there any other mods that also make use of the weight value for sexlab related content? I perfer it over bodymorphs as it plays nicer with existing bodyslide presets and the adjustments I made to armor for them.

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19 hours ago, PRYINGORBS said:

I don't know where else to ask this so here we go, are there any other mods that also make use of the weight value for sexlab related content? I perfer it over bodymorphs as it plays nicer with existing bodyslide presets and the adjustments I made to armor for them.

 

I chose to change the weight for exactly this reason. And also because it's simpler 😛

It implies hijacking the weight slider from its original function, but I think that's what most people do at this point, especially for female characters.
I think I've seen a few older mods, mainly on LE that had chosen this approach but I couldn't tell you which ones.

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English
Posted

Thanks for taking the time to test the mod and for sharing your patch, I'll link to your post in the description. Let me know what you think.

 

The next version will bring some cool stuff :)

Posted
1 hour ago, yayepicyay said:

Hey does anyone else have an issue where if you change the hotkeys to anything but the default, they don't work at all? 

 

Hey, I think it works but the hotkey changes only take effect after loading an existing save. You can do it quickly by pressing F5 (for quick save) and F9 (for quick load).

I'm going to change it so that it handles hot reloading the key settings, it will be more intuitive.

Posted (edited)
3 hours ago, PRYINGORBS said:

The Ordinator patch is complete! (Or it should be.) I've added the remaining tree parts that don't manipulate persuasion or bribery. If the perks are edited in the future this will have to be fixed but for now it should run fine.

 

Thank you for that, looks good!

Funny you mention me editing the perks because next update (coming today or tomorrow) will add a new one, but I think it will work because it is just a new rank for an existing perk (Perverted thirst).

 

I will update the description with the new link.

 

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Posted (edited)

Haha, too late 😛

 

EDIT: I didn't do it on purpose, your message was still there when I posted, I couldn't have quoted it otherwise.

Anyway, I edited my message to erase the reference to your post.

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On 1/27/2024 at 10:38 PM, PRYINGORBS said:

I don't know where else to ask this so here we go, are there any other mods that also make use of the weight value for sexlab related content? I perfer it over bodymorphs as it plays nicer with existing bodyslide presets and the adjustments I made to armor for them.

Sexlab Hormones takes care of the weight. There is also Deadly Drain (BUT the SE version is Still in Beta and "and the draining weight" function doesn't work at the moment).

Posted
15 hours ago, PRYINGORBS said:

And fix is done! (Don't question the fact that sexuality increases shouting abilities.)

 

Damn! You're too fast for me haha, I update the description. thanks!

Regarding sexuality improving shouts, we can probably justify some perks just by renaming them 😛

 

11 hours ago, AureumCustos said:

This mod break OBody NG for me the redress mechanic breaks that mod. keeps resetting your bodies weight. can I request a compatibility patch?

 

Shit, I didn't know they were also updating the weight. I'll see what I can do.

Posted

@1zorro1 Hey,

 

In game:

- Open the OAR configuration menu

- Set to "User Mode" (allows you to locally override the mod settings in a non destructive way)

- Look for the modesty animations

- Tick the condition "NOT IsInFaction SLA Exhibitionist"

 

See the attached screenshot.

 

Spoiler

OAR_settings.thumb.jpg.153946a19f78d9059e562aeaaad34a8b.jpg

 

Posted (edited)
On 1/30/2024 at 2:16 PM, SNK_1 said:

Haha, too late 😛

 

EDIT: I didn't do it on purpose, your message was still there when I posted, I couldn't have quoted it otherwise.

Anyway, I edited my message to erase the reference to your post.

Omg that came off so bad and aggressive. I'm so sorry. It was not my intention.

 

I do have a question that hasn't been answered yet (to the best of my knowledge): How does this work with a custom race? I usually play with this to have higher-resolution skins and a different body from all the NPCs.

 

 

EDIT: Also, what aroused should I use, or worded differently, which works best with this mod? I usually use OSLAroused.

EDIT 2: I figure custom race works. Regardless of my preset's weight I slim down to zero and I can activate the button. However, changing the button via the console seems to break stuff.

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Posted (edited)

Hey @cheeze_whiz, no worries!


I didn't think you were aggressive, but as I wasn't sure, I edited the message so it wouldn't be a problem.

 

No incompatibilities with custom races, you can use whatever you want.

However, Perverted Thirst rank 2 won't give you any fancy buff like the vanilla races do, you'll just get the generic one (health regeneration) as Sexcraft doesn't recognize the succubus race.

 

About the hotkey, how does it break? Is it just not working or is it something crazier?

Did you try to save the game and reload it after changing it? It works for me.

 

A lot of people seem to have trouble with the hotkey but as they never answer I don't know if they managed to solve their issue or if they just gave up ^^"

 

EDIT:

I used OSLAroused for a long time, but I had issues with it. For some reason, NPCs arousal wouldn't always be updated, creatures were not supported, and it conflicted with a custom bridge I made for myself to use Ostim lovers with SL. So, now I use SLANG and I'm happy with it but it is still considered alpha so I don't know if I can recommend it.

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English + Aroused framework
Posted

i have the same issue as bkeul
the hotkey seems to not do anything, i typed in the console "sqv SCHotkeysQuest" and gotten back the following

SCHotkeysQuestScript
script state = ""
no variables
no papyrus scripts attached
- 1 aliases for quest 'SCHotkeysQuest' (87003327)-
REF 'player Alias' -> " (00000014)
Quest state
enabled? yes
state: running
current stage 0
priority 0

i dont know what any of that means, is it perchance possible for me to rebind the hotkey somewhere somehow just in case my middle mouse button is just buggered ?

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