Devious Devices NG

[IcicleInn]

12 minutes ago, Malkone said:

This may seem like a silly question, so forgive me, but does anyone know what the wrist bindings in the first preview image are called? I can't seem to find them in-game at all.

Thanks!

Those are part of the "Simple Ropes" set.  Searching for that (with the S) is your easiest way to find it.  Has 3 different parts

[Hanshurtig11]

Are the ebonite ballet boots (tight) and boxbinder (open) not ready yet ? I cant find them in Bodyslide and they are invisable ingame. Thou i really love all the new "toys" 😁

Thx for the great work !!

[Malkone]

40 minutes ago, IcicleInn said:

Those are part of the "Simple Ropes" set.  Searching for that (with the S) is your easiest way to find it.  Has 3 different parts

Found it, thank you very much!

[loonetrooper]

The new Long gloves/Mittens do not block spellcasting etc like the original paw mittens do.

[huhyeahso]

Do i need to build both 3BA and CBBB versions of the items? i have 3ba installed. Also i cant find where the DDNG group is in the interface i have to tick the items manually.

[MysticDaedra]

5 hours ago, huhyeahso said:

Do i need to build both 3BA and CBBB versions of the items? i have 3ba installed. Also i cant find where the DDNG group is in the interface i have to tick the items manually.

No, one or the other. If you are using 3BA, then install that. If the DDNG group isn't appearing in bodyslide, then you didn't install it properly.

[belegost]

17 hours ago, zarantha said:

without the DCL quest arc.

That is the whole appeal of DCL. No point in downloading a substitute if the main course is not there.

[DrLight1491]

As I have had to go to the second page of Google for this question and didnt find an answer, I cannot make any follower wear anything from DD Expansion, as this is a more updated mod does anyone here have an answer and/or encountered the same issue. Trying to use stuff like the catsuits and harrnesses on them.

I am using EFF so they should be auto equiping and are doing it with the base armors

Edited May 19, 2025 by DrLight1491

[zarantha]

23 hours ago, belegost said:

That is the whole appeal of DCL. No point in downloading a substitute if the main course is not there.

 

A matter of preference. I prefer just the traps and not the quests.

[zarantha]

17 hours ago, DrLight1491 said:

As I have had to go to the second page of Google for this question and didnt find an answer, I cannot make any follower wear anything from DD Expansion, as this is a more updated mod does anyone here have an answer and/or encountered the same issue. Trying to use stuff like the catsuits and harrnesses on them.

I am using EFF so they should be auto equiping and are doing it with the base armors

 

Followers will prefer armor that they're skilled for, and DDs count as clothing, not armor, and don't have an armor rating. As far as I'm aware, you'd have to take away all their armor to force them to wear DDs.

[belegost]

43 minutes ago, zarantha said:

 

I prefer just the traps and not the quests.

There are at least 3 other mods I know of that do that. Probably more. But only DCL has a full-on questline that introduces them gradually in an immersive way and is pretty fun to play all the way through.

 

A re-write or a remake or a spiritual successor of that aspect of DCL using modern tools would be most welcome. I can imagine a questline that progressively implements all the new and shiny devices from NG while having you travel all over Skyrim either in search of freedom or slowly submitting to a life of a sub, would be pretty fun as well.

Edited May 19, 2025 by belegost

[Seph64]

Some questions concerning the new contraption escape minigame.

 

1. as long as you hold down the (correct) button within the min and max seconds threshold, does it count as success?

2. Is there a problem where if you fail a sequence, it gets stuck in an endless loop of failures? Last time I tried, no matter which button I tried after failure, I got stuck where none of the buttons would progress the minigame.

[Shulaiwang]

Hi guys,the struggle mini game is not working. There is no response when I press struggle.And I can't get out of devices because I can't struggle.Anyone know how to fix this?I will be very greatful.

[recentcabbage]

Is the DDNG 0.4.1 compatible with Roggvir's Adjustable Gags?

I tried the DDNG 0.3.7 with that mod, and the character's mouth kept closed, while 0.2.9 worked fine.

[Frayed]

On 5/20/2025 at 4:15 AM, Seph64 said:

Some questions concerning the new contraption escape minigame.

 

1. as long as you hold down the (correct) button within the min and max seconds threshold, does it count as success?

2. Is there a problem where if you fail a sequence, it gets stuck in an endless loop of failures? Last time I tried, no matter which button I tried after failure, I got stuck where none of the buttons would progress the minigame.

 

1. No, how it works is that the min/max settings in the MCM define the range of minimum time you need to hold a button down, i.e. if you set min=0 and max=5, each button gets assigned a time X between 0 and 5 seconds it needs to be held, but holding it longer than X is also fine. The idea was that your character needs some minimum amount of time messing with the restraints to progress towards freeing themselves, and this time may vary for each step.

I can see how you could conclude it worked the way you describe, though. I should probably make that a little clearer.
 

2. I'm guessing this is due to the misconception in 1., since if it rolled the max time and you're trying to stay below that you'd always miss it. In case it isn't and you get another situation where you think you're getting stuck, turn on logging in the DD MCM and it'll log a bunch of things about the minigame to your papyrus logs. Then just post that log here or send it to me and I'll see if I can find any issues.

 

20 hours ago, Shulaiwang said:

Hi guys,the struggle mini game is not working. There is no response when I press struggle.And I can't get out of devices because I can't struggle.Anyone know how to fix this?I will be very greatful.

 

I'll need a bit more information. Did the minigame start properly i.e. do the tutorial messages pop up when you select the "struggle" escape option from a contraption and then pressing buttons does nothing, or do the messages not appear either?

 

If it's the latter, I found out recently that there are a few mods that ship their own contraptions objects that use DD's contraption script, but currently the minigame will not work on those because they're won't have the variable pointing to the minigame set on them. I'm working on a fix for that for next DD NG version which should make them compatible again. You should still be able to just get to the contraption menu and use the "pick lock" or "break device" options to escape, though.

[SilentAntagonist]

I haven't updated to the new version yet, as I don't want the new escape minigames. Is it possible to disable them and keep the current system on the new update?

[krzp]

2 hours ago, SilentAntagonist said:

I haven't updated to the new version yet, as I don't want the new escape minigames. Is it possible to disable them and keep the current system on the new update?

No, but the break free/lockpick option still functions as they used to, so if you're more into RNG for your contraptions - those are still available.

[Guest]

armor for followers also has to be better than the gear they have on, Sarana won't change her boots for the same pair even if it has high power enchants if its untempered.

maybe where follower frameworks come into play.

[Seph64]

17 hours ago, Frayed said:

 

1. No, how it works is that the min/max settings in the MCM define the range of minimum time you need to hold a button down, i.e. if you set min=0 and max=5, each button gets assigned a time X between 0 and 5 seconds it needs to be held, but holding it longer than X is also fine. The idea was that your character needs some minimum amount of time messing with the restraints to progress towards freeing themselves, and this time may vary for each step.

I can see how you could conclude it worked the way you describe, though. I should probably make that a little clearer.
 

2. I'm guessing this is due to the misconception in 1., since if it rolled the max time and you're trying to stay below that you'd always miss it. In case it isn't and you get another situation where you think you're getting stuck, turn on logging in the DD MCM and it'll log a bunch of things about the minigame to your papyrus logs. Then just post that log here or send it to me and I'll see if I can find any issues.

 

Alright, so I guess holding close to the max time is more ideal then? And here I forgot in to install my internal chronometer. 😛

[Strish]

Всем привет, у меня версия игры 1.5.97 SE я не могу заставить работать DDNG 4+ версия 3.7.7 работает но выше не хочет запускать игру в чем может быть проблема?

[Frayed]

4 hours ago, Seph64 said:

Alright, so I guess holding close to the max time is more ideal then? And here I forgot in to install my internal chronometer. 😛

 

Actually (struggle minigame technique spoiler):

Spoiler

there's an audio cue you can use, and then there's no guesswork involved for the timing 😉

 

Actually, the minigame isn't nearly as random as it might first appear. There's a few nuances to it that I intentionally left unexplained (though the changelog sort of spoils a few), because they're intended for players to figure out themselves - you can play it without knowing them, but you can learn them if you pay attention and actually get good at the minigame that way. 

 

Edited May 22, 2025 by Frayed

[Seph64]

Oh cool, now that I know what to look (listen) out for, I can now feel comfortable adjusting the difficulty to my liking.

[Guest]

I have a problem where the hobble dress animations do not work, my characters legs are unaffected when wearing a tight hobble dress and she does not bunny hop even though that is the option I've checked in both devious devices 5.2 and ng with all prereqs. She does a slow walk instead as if she is overencumbered. I am on 1.6.1170 I have run fnis and have no warnings there or on vortex. If anyone has any  idea what could be causing this and a fix, please share. 

[namelessfellow]

On 5/21/2025 at 12:11 PM, recentcabbage said:

Is the DDNG 0.4.1 compatible with Roggvir's Adjustable Gags?

I tried the DDNG 0.3.7 with that mod, and the character's mouth kept closed, while 0.2.9 worked fine.

I do not have that mod, however, gags stopped working for me as well with the newest update. I also use the newest Unforgiving Devices, but I don't think that mod is at fault here.

EDIT: Managed to fix it by changing the load order. Rearranged Papyrus mods in this order:
PapyrusUtil SE
powerofthree's Tweaks
powerofthree's Papyrus Extender
Papyrus Tweaks 4.1.0

Then, placed them right above DD mods (with the exception of PapyrusUtil, but only because I left it accidentally at the top) and it seems to work now. Other mods detect DD version correctly now as well.

Edited May 28, 2025 by namelessfellow

[namelessfellow]

2 hours ago, dv12376 said:

I have a problem where the hobble dress animations do not work, my characters legs are unaffected when wearing a tight hobble dress and she does not bunny hop even though that is the option I've checked in both devious devices 5.2 and ng with all prereqs. She does a slow walk instead as if she is overencumbered. I am on 1.6.1170 I have run fnis and have no warnings there or on vortex. If anyone has any  idea what could be causing this and a fix, please share. 

That's probably an Open Animation Replacer issue, not FNIS one. Do you have the former installed?