solved/answered FNIS = PC & NPC freeze positions after GenerateFNISforUsers use

rongeurdos · June 4, 2023

Note: All my apologies for my poor English.

Hi everybody,

I've changed my modlist to add Toys & Love; after applying GenerateFNISforUsers, each NPC + PC are in a cross freeze position.

So, i uninstall Dynamic Animation Replacer, use Open Animation Replacer instead and apply FNIS = same issue (*)

Then, i uninstall SexLab Animation Loader and Billyy's SLAL Animations in case some incompatibilities with Toys & Love and apply FNIS = same issue (*)

I've tried FNIS with GENDER, SKELETON and HKX checked; i've tried FNIS with GENDER, SKELETON checked but HKX; same issue in both cases (*)

(*) Each times, i use a valid backup data folder.

I confirm The NPCs & PC animations are fine without applying GenerateFNISforUsers.

If anyone could help me, it would be greatly appreciated.

Here is my add & replacement:

Spoiler

Open Animation Replacer   https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/92109
Conditional Armor Type Animations   https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/51507
OAR-PCEA (PC Exclusive Animations - Open Animation Replacer Version)   https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/48540
Seamless Varied Feminine Idles OAR   https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/92226
Smooth Random Sprint Animation   https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/46193
Weapon Styles - Draw-Sheathe animations   https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/77017

Toys&Love SE 2.62

Classic Toy Box SE 1.34

WildLife for Toys 1.2

Generated voice pack for Toys&Love 1.0.0

Generated voice pack for Hot&Wet 1.0.0

KSHair for Toy Story SE https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/73417

Here is my modorder:

Spoiler

*Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp
*Unofficial Skyrim Modders Patch.esp
*UHDAP - MusicHQ.esp
*UHDAP - en0.esp
*UHDAP - en1.esp
*UHDAP - en2.esp
*UHDAP - en3.esp
*UHDAP - en4.esp
*daymoyl.esm
*Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm
*summersetisles.esp
*SummersetFixes.esp
*Vigilant.esm
*Chanterelle World.esp
*BSAssets.esm
*BSHeartland.esm
*BS_DLC_patch.esp
*Skyrim Extended Cut - Saints and Seducers.esp
*SexLab.esm
*Devious Devices - Assets.esm
*Devious Devices - Contraptions.esm
*Devious Devices - Expansion.esm
*Devious Devices - Integration.esm
*SexLabAroused.esm
*CreatureFramework.esm
*ZaZAnimationPack.esm
*Skyrim - Utility Mod.esm
*SexLab - Sexual Fame [SLSF].esm
*Toys.esm
*AHZmoreHUDInventory.esl
*iWant Widgets.esl
*Expressive Facegen Morphs.esl
*Fertility Mode.esm
*Only Lover's Dead Give Inheritance Letters.esp
*TrulyNeutralPrisoners.esp
*MfgFix.esp
*Quest Journal Limit Bug Fixer.esp
*Atlas Map Markers.esp
*SkyUI_SE.esp
*UIExtensions.esp
*MCMHelper.esp
*RaceMenu.esp
*RaceMenuPlugin.esp
*CBBE.esp
*RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp
*12FemaleBrows.esp
*MonsterLipSync1.esp
*TheEyesOfBeauty.esp
*The Eyes Of Beauty - Elves Edition.esp
*KS Hairdo's.esp
*Schlongs of Skyrim.esp
*SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp
*Dead_Briarheart_SOS_fix.esp
*FNIS.esp
*XPMSE.esp
*SOSRaceMenu.esp
*Conditional Expressions.esp
*Conditional Expressions for NPCs.esp
*3BBB.esp
*SOSPhysicsManager.esp
*titkit.esp
*Tiwa44_Minidresses_CBBE.esp
*Tiwa44_Minidresses_Dragonborn_CBBE.esp
*DNPCsTiwaa44.esp
*KSHairdosSMP.esp
*OAR-PCEA.esp
*Weapon Styles.esp
*IMG_Hagraven.esp
*ToplessForswornAllowNecklace.esp
*[ELLE] Pixie Dust.esp
*Bandit Lines Expansion.esp
*Civil War Lines Expansion.esp
*Civil War Lines Expansion - No Guard Idles Patch.esp
*Forsworn and Thalmor Lines Expansion.esp
*Vampire Lines Expansion.esp
*Vampire Lines Expansion - Orc Addon.esp
*PaarthurnaxQuestExpansion.esp
*UnreadBooksGlow.esp
*DynamicTreasureMapJournal.esp
*SimplyKnock.esp
*BA_BardSongs_AIO.esp
*SkyrimsGotTalent-Bards.esp
*NPCs React To Necromancy.esp
*BarenziahQuestMarkers.esp
*Vigilant Voiced.esp
*Vigilant CBBE Patch.esp
*HeartOfTheReach.esp
*ChanterelleNVM.esp
*Kynes Hunt - Quest for Chanterelle.esp
*BSHeartland - No Custom Map Markers.esp
*ECSS - Beyond Skyrim Music Patch.esp
*dz_undress_common.esp
*dz_jerall_view_bath.esp
*Vigilant Subtitle Fix.esp
*OAroused.esp
*OSLAroused.esp
*Devious Devices SE patch.esp
*MoreNastyCritters.esp
*BakaFactoryABC.esp
*Sexual Vampire Feed.esp
*BakaMotionData.esp
*SLALAnimObjBillyy.esp
*SLSFFameComments.esp
*KSHairsForSLSFC.esp
*Fertility Mode 3 Fixes and Updates.esp
*SLDrunkRedux.esp
*WetFunction.esp
*SexLabDangerousNights2.esp
*SexLabDefeat.esp
*SexLab_Dialogues.esp
*Spank That Ass.esp
*SL Survival.esp
*sl_triggers.esp
*Classic Toy Box.esp
*Sanguine Toy Box.esp
*ToyfulTemptations.esp
*WildLifeForToys.esp
*Follower Slavery Mod.esp
*ToyStory.esp
*HoT&WeT.esp
*ToysWorkshop.esp
*Toys - Voices.esp
*ToyStory - Voices.esp
*ToysWorkshop - Voices.esp
*Hot&Wet - Voices.esp
*KSHairForToyStorySE.esp
*Succubus Heart.esp
*SexLab_DibellaCult.esp
*SexLab_DibellaCult_Sisters.esp
*sanguinesDebauchery.esp
*The Ancient Profession.esp
*TAP Interiors.esp
*TAP Interiors DzAutoUndress Patch.esp
*MysticismMagic.esp
*MysticismJumpSpells.esp
*Aetherius.esp
*AetheriusSpells.esp
*Adamant.esp
*AdamantSmithing.esp
*SimonrmSaintsSeducersSmithing.esp
*SimonrimAttackSpeedFix.esp
*HandtoHand.esp
*HandtoHandJump.esp
*H2HBooksandTrainers.esp
*Mundus.esp
*MundusUSSEP.esp
*Arena.esp
*BladeAndBlunt.esp
*Scion.esp
*Manbeast.esp
*Apothecary.esp
*ApothecaryFood.esp
*ApothecaryFood - USSEP Patch.esp
*Apothecary - Saints & Seducers Patch.esp
*Apothecary - Rare Curios Patch.esp
*Apothecary - Bruma Patch.esp
*ApothecaryFood - Bruma Patch.esp
*Pilgrim.esp
*PilgrimCyrodiilPatch.esp
*Thaumaturgy.esp
*ThaumaturgyJumpBoots.esp
*Stormcrown.esp
*TrueStormsSE.esp
*DarkerNights.esp
*DarkerNights-BeyondSkyrimBruma.esp
*USMP - Aetherius patch.esp

Here is my modlist in case it's useful

Spoiler

Open Animation Replacer   https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/92109
Conditional Armor Type Animations   https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/51507
OAR-PCEA (PC Exclusive Animations - Open Animation Replacer Version)   https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/48540
Seamless Varied Feminine Idles OAR   https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/92226
Smooth Random Sprint Animation   https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/46193
Weapon Styles - Draw-Sheathe animations   https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/77017

SexLab SE - Sex Animation Framework v1.65 - 11/08/22 1.65 https://www.loverslab.com/files/file/20058-sexlab-se-sex-animation-framework-v165-110822/
SexLab LipSync Fix https://www.loverslab.com/topic/91861-sexlab-se-sex-animation-framework-v165-110822/page/201/#comment-3079737

Devious Devices SE 5.2   https://www.loverslab.com/files/file/5878-devious-devices-se/
OSL Aroused - Arousal Reborn    https://www.loverslab.com/files/file/20867-osl-aroused-arousal-reborn-sse-ae/
More Nasty Critters Special/Anniversary Edition V15.0   https://www.loverslab.com/files/file/5464-more-nasty-critters-specialanniversary-edition/

Animated Beast's Cocks(ABC) For users LE / SE 2.90V   https://www.loverslab.com/files/file/7556-animated-beasts-cocksabc-for-users-le-se/
Sexual Vampire Feeding SE 1.4   https://www.loverslab.com/files/file/9933-sexual-vampire-feeding-se/
Baka Motion Data Pack 1.22V   https://www.patreon.com/posts/baka-motion-data-69839285
ZAZ Animation Packs for SE 2023   https://www.loverslab.com/files/file/5957-zaz-animation-packs-for-se/
Skyrim Utility Mod 2.60.0 [November 1, 2022]   https://www.loverslab.com/files/file/8123-skyrim-utility-mod/

Versh's Sexlab Sexual Fame Framwork SE v0.99 https://www.loverslab.com/topic/94228-se-compatibility-tracking-apr-16-7788/page/173/?tab=comments#comment-2853096
SLSF Fame Comments SE 3.4b   https://www.loverslab.com/files/file/14089-slsf-fame-comments-se/
Fertility Mode   https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/13068
Fertility Mode v3 Fixes and Tweaks   https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/46820
Fertility Mode v3 Fixes and Tweaks - Settings Loader   https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/78055
SexLab Drunk Redux 1.3   https://www.loverslab.com/files/file/11310-sexlab-drunk-redux/
Wet Function Redux   https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/78804
SexLab Dangerous Nights 2    + patch https://www.loverslab.com/files/file/26612-dbf-beta-and-testing-for-skyrim-special-edition-april-2023/
Sexlab Defeat Baka Edition LE/SE 1.50   https://www.loverslab.com/files/file/18689-sexlab-defeat-baka-edition-lese/

SexLab Dialogues   https://www.loverslab.com/topic/120107-skyrimlldeepbluefrog-mods-conversion-to-sse/page/93/#comment-3462553
Spank That Ass SE 4.8   https://www.loverslab.com/files/file/9385-spank-that-ass-se/
Sexlab Survival SE 0.662 Beta   https://www.loverslab.com/files/file/15092-sexlab-survival-se/
PATCH STA   https://www.loverslab.com/blogs/entry/12799-mod-features/?tab=comments#comment-54218
PATCH SLS   https://www.loverslab.com/blogs/entry/12799-mod-features/?tab=comments#comment-54218
SL Triggers(v12) [2022-06-05] 12.0.0   https://www.loverslab.com/files/file/8760-sl-triggersv12-2022-06-05/
Various SL Triggers Addons + Sperm Alchemy Ingredients 1.0.1 + 1.0   https://www.loverslab.com/files/file/13824-various-sl-triggers-addons-sperm-alchemy-ingredients/

The Sisterhood of Dibella SE (February 2023) 2023-02-26   https://www.loverslab.com/files/file/26037-the-sisterhood-of-dibella-se-february-2023/
SexLab Dibella Sisterhood 3BA Bodyslides    https://www.loverslab.com/topic/120107-skyrimlldeepbluefrog-mods-conversion-to-sse/page/55/#comment-3302461
Sanguine Debauchery   https://www.loverslab.com/topic/120107-skyrimlldeepbluefrog-mods-conversion-to-sse/page/93/#comment-3462553
DBF beta and testing for Skyrim Special Edition (April 2023) 2023-04-10a   https://www.loverslab.com/files/file/26612-dbf-beta-and-testing-for-skyrim-special-edition-april-2023/
The Ancient Profession 2023-04-24 0.4   https://www.loverslab.com/files/file/11556-the-ancient-profession-2023-03-05/
The Ancient Profession Interiors Project 1.5.3   https://www.loverslab.com/files/file/22844-the-ancient-profession-interiors-project/
Succubus Heart    https://www.loverslab.com/files/file/6350-succubus-heart-se/
Succubus Main Menu and Music replacer   https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/82575

True Storms Special Edition - Thunder Rain and Weather Redone https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/2472
Darker Nights https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/694

Unofficial Skyrim Modders Patch - USMP - Patch Emporium https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/50813

Edited June 4, 2023 by rongeurdos

Dorabella · June 4, 2023

and FNIS report , where is ?

*travelmedic* · June 4, 2023

1 - Before adding Toys, did you delete any animation mods?

2 - Did your game work with SLAL and Billys?

Try this - when you run FNIS, it generates output (I don't remember if it's hkx files or something else). Find where your FNIS output is stored. Delete the stored FNIS output. (Do NOT delete FNIS!!!) Now run FNIS again and see what happens.

rongeurdos · June 4, 2023

?????? 1627, here is the FNIS report (thx to confirm i copy the right report):

Spoiler

FNIS Behavior V7.6 XXL 04/06/2023 19:16:59
Skyrim SE 64bit: 1.6.640.0 - D:\SteamLibrary\steamapps\common\Skyrim Special Edition\ (Steam)

Skeleton(hkx) female: XPMS2HDT (126 bones) male: XPMS2HDT (126 bones)
Patch: "GENDER Specific Animations"
Patch: "SKELETON Arm Fix"
Patch: "HKX File Compatibility Check Skyrim/SSE"

Reading BaboMotionData V?.? ...    ChAnims:165   CTD:1,8%   pOpt:1,1%
Reading DD V4.0.0 ...    ChAnims:740(588)   CTD:13,1%   pOpt:1,1%
Reading DD2 V4.0.0 ...    ChAnims:374(374)   CTD:10,7%   pOpt:0,0%
Reading DD3 V4.1.0 ...    ChAnims:119(119)   CTD:2,9%   pOpt:0,0%
Reading DDC V1.2 ...    ChAnims:58   CTD:0,4%   pOpt:0,2%
Reading DDSL V4.0.0 ...    ChAnims:410   CTD:2,8%   pOpt:0,9%
Reading Defeat V5 ...    ChAnims:30   CTD:0,4%   pOpt:0,2%
Reading DF_Spank V1.0 ...    ChAnims:70   CTD:0,4%   pOpt:0,1%
Reading FNISBase V7.6 ...    ChAnims:0   CTD:0,0%   pOpt:0,0%
Reading FNISCreatureVersion V7.0 ...    ChAnims:0   CTD:0,0%   pOpt:0,0%
Reading MoreNastyCritters V1.0 ...    ChAnims:344   CTD:2,2%   pOpt:0,6%
Reading sanguinesDebauchery V?.? ...    ChAnims:107(21)   CTD:1,9%   pOpt:0,6%
Reading SexLab V1.64 ...    ChAnims:882   CTD:5,6%   pOpt:1,5%
Reading SexLabAP V1.64 ...    ChAnims:142   CTD:0,9%   pOpt:0,2%
Reading SexLabCreature V1.64 ...    ChAnims:177   CTD:1,2%   pOpt:0,3%
Reading SexualVampireFeedAnimations V1.0 ...    ChAnims:102   CTD:0,6%   pOpt:0,2%
>>Warning: \character\behaviors\FNIS_SL_Survival_Behavior.hkx not Skyrim SE compatible<<
Reading SL_Survival>>Warning: \character\animations\SL_Survival\SLS_BendOver_LeadIn.hkx not Skyrim SE compatible<<
>>Warning: \character\animations\SL_Survival\SLS_BendOver_Idle.hkx not Skyrim SE compatible<<
>>Warning: \character\animations\SL_Survival\SLS_BendOver_OfferBj.hkx not Skyrim SE compatible<<
>>Warning: \character\animations\SL_Survival\SLS_BendOver_Idle.hkx not Skyrim SE compatible<<
>>Warning: \character\animations\SL_Survival\SLS_BendOver_Twerk.hkx not Skyrim SE compatible<<
>>Warning: \character\animations\SL_Survival\SLS_BendOver_Idle.hkx not Skyrim SE compatible<<
>>Warning: \character\animations\SL_Survival\SLS_BendOver_LeadOut.hkx not Skyrim SE compatible<<
>>Warning: \character\animations\SL_Survival\SLS_BegForCock_LeadIn.hkx not Skyrim SE compatible<<
>>Warning: \character\animations\SL_Survival\SLS_BegForCock_HandPump.hkx not Skyrim SE compatible<<
>>Warning: \character\animations\SL_Survival\SLS_BegForCock_LeadIn.hkx not Skyrim SE compatible<<
>>Warning: \character\animations\SL_Survival\SLS_BegForCock_StickyFingers.hkx not Skyrim SE compatible<<
>>Warning: \character\animations\SL_Survival\SLS_BegForCock_LeadIn.hkx not Skyrim SE compatible<<
>>Warning: \character\animations\SL_Survival\SLS_BegForCock_Sore.hkx not Skyrim SE compatible<<
>>Warning: \character\animations\SL_Survival\SLS_ZazHornyA.hkx not Skyrim SE compatible<<
>>Warning: \character\animations\SL_Survival\SLS_ZazHornyB.hkx not Skyrim SE compatible<<
>>Warning: \character\animations\SL_Survival\SLS_ZazHornyC.hkx not Skyrim SE compatible<<
>>Warning: \character\animations\SL_Survival\SLS_ZazHornyD.hkx not Skyrim SE compatible<<
>>Warning: \character\animations\SL_Survival\SLS_ZazHornyE.hkx not Skyrim SE compatible<<
>>Warning: \character\animations\SL_Survival\SLS_ZaZCoverSelf.hkx not Skyrim SE compatible<<
V4.0.0 ...    ChAnims:19   CTD:0,2%   pOpt:0,1%
>>Warning: \character\behaviors\FNIS_SpankThatAss_Behavior.hkx not Skyrim SE compatible<<
Reading SpankThatAss>>Warning: \character\animations\SpankThatAss\Sta_slap_backward.hkx not Skyrim SE compatible<<
>>Warning: \character\animations\SpankThatAss\Sta_slap_forward.hkx not Skyrim SE compatible<<
V4.0.0 ...    ChAnims:2   CTD:0,0%   pOpt:0,0%
Reading Toys V2.62 ...    ChAnims:494(226)   CTD:6,5%   pOpt:0,4%
Reading ToysFurniture V1.0 ...    ChAnims:518   CTD:3,1%   pOpt:0,8%
Reading ToysStarter V1.0 ...    ChAnims:1291   CTD:7,9%   pOpt:1,9%
Reading ToysW V1.33 ...    ChAnims:69   CTD:0,6%   pOpt:0,2%
Reading TStory V2.35 ...    ChAnims:204   CTD:1,3%   pOpt:0,4%
Reading WildLife V1.2 ...    ChAnims:35   CTD:0,2%   pOpt:0,1%
Reading ZaZAnimationPack V8.00 ...    ChAnims:1669   CTD:7,9%   pOpt:0,1%
Reading ZaZAnimationPack+ V8.00 ...    ChAnims:42   CTD:0,2%   pOpt:0,0%

All Anim Lists scanned. Generating Behavior Files...
No GENDER directory male
No GENDER directory female
Alternate Animation mods: 5 sets: 42 total groups: 207 added file slots: 1632 alternate files: 1328

Create Creature Behaviors ...
Reading MoreNastyCritters V1.0 ...
Reading BaboMotionData V?.? ...
Reading SexLabCreature V1.63 ...
Reading WildLife V1.0 ...

8063 animations for 26 mods successfully included (character).
ChAnims: 8063 CTD:68,7% pOpt:10,8% max: 11728 LC: 17986 (max. 26162)

1054 animations for 4 mods and 40 creatures successfully included..
23 Warning(s).

travelmedic

1. Deleted Billyy's SLAL Animations (2023-5-2); kept Animated Beast's Cocks + Sexual Vampire Feeding + Baka Motion Data Pack + ZAZ Animation Packs + BakaFactory's SLAL Animation.

2. Yes.

*travelmedic* · June 4, 2023

So if you deleted animation mods and did not delete the FNIS output, that's part of the problem right there. Like I suggested before, find your old FNIS output files and delete them, then run FNIS again.

Look at your FNIS report. It's telling you that Spank That Ass and SL Survival Behavior are not compatible with your game version. Find the correct versions of those mods.

*pinky6225* · June 4, 2023

You have multiple - not Skyrim SE compatible in the FNIS report so i'd go back and check you've installed the SE version of these mods

Edited June 4, 2023 by pinky6225

rongeurdos · June 4, 2023

travelmedic, each time i've made a backup of the data folder before applying FNIS; so for each of my test it's with a clean data folder / fnis output.

pinky6225, yes and i've checked SexLab Survivor links used which are Sexlab Survival SE 0.662 Beta modified with 0.685 patch version + Spank that ass link used which is Spank That Ass SE 4.8. Both mods look like to be for SE.

I'll do 2 tries:

1. One with another modlist where SexLab Animation Loader SSE and Billyy's SLAL Animations (2023-5-2) are added where "Billyy's animation" is installed after Toys n Love features.

2. One with the same modlist minus SexLab Survival and Spank that Ass (but i didn't see any issue related in each respective suport forum).

Edited June 4, 2023 by rongeurdos

Dorabella · June 4, 2023

3 minutes ago, rongeurdos said:

Both mods look like to be for SE.

FNIS says no

rongeurdos · June 4, 2023

4 minutes ago, ?????? 1627 said:

FNIS says no

I'll try without the beta update for both mods (Survival and STA) and keep you posted.

rongeurdos · June 4, 2023

OK, solved. THX to everyone for pointing me in the right direction.

I was wrong and did a bad job of troubleshooting: 0.685 patch version + Spank That Ass SE 4.8 were the problem (?????? 1627, looks like these updates aren't for SSE...).

Edited June 4, 2023 by rongeurdos

phrozemo777 · June 5, 2023

Sidenote about animations that are not designed for SE. You can convert them with Cathedral Assets Optimizer, along with meshes and textures.

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