Ender Shadowborne Posted February 16, 2023 Author Posted February 16, 2023 20 hours ago, Swe-DivX said: Now install this... 01. 85443 Load Game CTD Fix - An SKSE plugin to prevent crashing that may occur when loading games 02. 100672 Animation Limit Crash Fix LE - The patch fixes the crash on game loading when you install too many animations with FNIS 03. 72725 Crash Fixes - Fixes the save 65000 string error. 04. Skyrim Memory Optimizer - This will make your computer fly. For users with crappy CPU. 05. NPC AI Lag Fix - A SKSE plugin, which fixes the bug that the game engine cannot correctly handle the NPC AI process after the player is waiting, sleeping and other events. 06. Grid Transition CTD Fix - This mod fixes rare CTD (not so rare if you have many mods) that appears with grid transition. 07. NPC AI Behavior Fixes - Plugin - A SKSE plugin, which fixes some AI errors that may exist in the NPC in the Skyrim game engine, and fixes some problems. It does not include scripts and esp files. And dont use 106085. Okay... I'll get to that when I can be bothered, given that this just turned into a huge project, so I'll pick back up on it whenever I can be bothered to...
Ender Shadowborne Posted June 8, 2023 Author Posted June 8, 2023 On 2/15/2023 at 8:27 PM, Ender Shadowborne said: Okay... I'll get to that when I can be bothered, given that this just turned into a huge project, so I'll pick back up on it whenever I can be bothered to... Do I *REALLY* need to install all those mods? It seems highly inefficient and may even WORSEN my situation, I mean, I've already provided screenshots and load orders of where everything is, couldn't I just be told where to put things in the MODS load order or if LOOT is getting something wrong with the PLUGINS load order?
Ender Shadowborne Posted June 8, 2023 Author Posted June 8, 2023 (edited) After reading the posts on the suggested mods to download/install, I've come to the conclusion that they may not help me with my situation, and are not necessary, it's simply a load order issue, as the title of this discussion suggests, however, I do believe I've not gotten any sufficient assistance at the moment. Although, I'll be looking back through this to see what I can scrape together, being as I do believe SOMEONE gave me a rather vague idea on where things should be, had this have been with VORTEX or NMM, using LOOT would've sufficiently fixed my issue, however, I use Mod Organizer 2, which has TWO load orders, and considering that I do not know what to do with my MODS load order (compared to my PLUGINS load order), I may no longer be able to play Skyrim. There were things I wanted to do, but if I cannot do these things, then I see no point in continuing... Look, I'm sorry I'm not a top-level god at load orders and what have you, but sometimes people CAN'T figure these things out on their own! And I don't have connections to top-level gods either, so I have to rely on the community for help with this kind of thing! Also I narrowed the problems down to the following: Yiffy Age of Skyrim The two SOS mods that're supposed to add things, And the CBBE SOS stuff Though I must've added something that I'm not aware of, because I'm getting an error for ENB something .exe... I don't recall ever adding ENB anything, course it's been a few months since I've touched anything Skyrim related, so... Edited June 8, 2023 by Ender Shadowborne
travelmedic Posted June 8, 2023 Posted June 8, 2023 So let me see if I understand: 1 - You come here for help and say you don't know what's wrong and that you're not an expert 2 - People go out of their way to try to help you 3 - You very impolitely rebuff and refuse every bit of assistance offered to you because somehow you just know that those bits of assistance are worthless without even trying 4 - In almost four months you can't be bothered to even try and download a handful of mods suggested to you and see if they help 5 - You're stuck on "mod order" and "plugin order" and don't seem to have a basic understanding of your tools, and have not told us what steps you've tried on your own to learn them or rectify the issues so we can avoid repetition 6 - You come back here again and complain that no one has given you any "sufficient assistance" even though you never tried it to see if it was sufficient or not I think I understand the issue now, even though I'm not a "top-level god." You're absolutely right in what you said before, maybe you shouldn't play Skyrim ever again and just lock this thread.
donttouchmethere Posted June 8, 2023 Posted June 8, 2023 (edited) On 1/18/2023 at 3:54 AM, Ender Shadowborne said: "0012","+","MoreNastyCrittersv12","","d2021.11.2.0","2023/01/03 21:21:21" On 1/18/2023 at 3:54 AM, Ender Shadowborne said: "0026","-","MoreNastyCritters","","d2023.1.9.0","2023/01/14 21:28:31" Are you using an old MNC version instead of newest MNC SLAL version? This could be already a big issue. All other MMG's mods depend on the correct MNC version, CTD likely if done wrong I don't see Papyrus Util 3.3 + installed The mods that come with it have old versions included This can become an issue I would move SKSE plugins like Jcontainers/PapyrusUtil 3.3 to the end to prevent overwrites Spoiler Mods to install: Creature Framework modified by MadMansGun More Nasty Critters SLAL Version Allow to overwrite: XPMSE AIO HDT Pussy Patches for various mods: More Nasty Critter SLAL Patches ⚠️The patches are loose files, don't install all of them, use only the ones needed to patch Mods in your LO Edited June 8, 2023 by donttouchmethere
Ender Shadowborne Posted June 8, 2023 Author Posted June 8, 2023 45 minutes ago, travelmedic said: So let me see if I understand: 1 - You come here for help and say you don't know what's wrong and that you're not an expert 2 - People go out of their way to try to help you 3 - You very impolitely rebuff and refuse every bit of assistance offered to you because somehow you just know that those bits of assistance are worthless without even trying 4 - In almost four months you can't be bothered to even try and download a handful of mods suggested to you and see if they help 5 - You're stuck on "mod order" and "plugin order" and don't seem to have a basic understanding of your tools, and have not told us what steps you've tried on your own to learn them or rectify the issues so we can avoid repetition 6 - You come back here again and complain that no one has given you any "sufficient assistance" even though you never tried it to see if it was sufficient or not I think I understand the issue now, even though I'm not a "top-level god." You're absolutely right in what you said before, maybe you shouldn't play Skyrim ever again and just lock this thread. Dude, just stop at this point... you're being very rude and jumping to conclusions, I've carefully considered everything that was offered, and the "handful of mods suggested to me" have recently stopped working for people, sorry that I read the posts sections, Hell, one of them even says that it's NOT SUPPORTED, including the fact that I've not been told where to place them in my mod load order, and sorry that you have no idea how Mod Organizer 2 works, I've got a better understanding of how it works than you do, it seems. If I deem a step inefficient, such as further adding to my problem by installing mods, then why further subject myself to the pains of having to deal with this issue? Consider getting MO2 and installing the mods that I have and placing them in the orders I've shown here, If you've nothing nice to say, just keep your words to yourself, if you'd just analyze the thread, it'd probably make more sense to you... As for you, DontTouchMeThere... 33 minutes ago, donttouchmethere said: Are you using an old MNC version instead of newest MNC SLAL version? This could be already a big issue. All other MMG's mods depend on the correct MNC version, CTD likely if done wrong I don't see Papyrus Util 3.3 + installed The mods that come with it have old versions included This can become an issue I would move SKSE plugins like Jcontainers/PapyrusUtil 3.3 to the end to prevent overwrites Reveal hidden contents Mods to install: Creature Framework modified by MadMansGun More Nasty Critters SLAL Version Allow to overwrite: XPMSE AIO HDT Pussy Patches for various mods: More Nasty Critter SLAL Patches ⚠️The patches are loose files, don't install all of them, use only the ones needed to patch Mods in your LO Ahh, I'm using the v12 version, the old one is the one that's been disabled (as indicated by the "-"), I could swear I had Papyrus Util at one point, but I guess not... I'll need to find it and install it, then I'll need to know which mods of mine in particular to move to the end, and if it matters how THEY'RE arranged or not
travelmedic Posted June 9, 2023 Posted June 9, 2023 26 minutes ago, Ender Shadowborne said: Dude, just stop at this point... you're being very rude and jumping to conclusions, I've carefully considered everything that was offered, and the "handful of mods suggested to me" have recently stopped working for people, sorry that I read the posts sections, Hell, one of them even says that it's NOT SUPPORTED, including the fact that I've not been told where to place them in my mod load order, and sorry that you have no idea how Mod Organizer 2 works, I've got a better understanding of how it works than you do, it seems. If I deem a step inefficient, such as further adding to my problem by installing mods, then why further subject myself to the pains of having to deal with this issue? Consider getting MO2 and installing the mods that I have and placing them in the orders I've shown here, Well as a matter of fact, I do use MO2, for Skyrim, Oblivion, Fallout New Vegas and Fallout 4. In my current Fallout 4, I have 3300+ items/downloads in my left pane, over 1000 of which are active. I also have 587 active plugins in the right pane. The difference is that my game works and runs, even with HD textures and High graphics settings. So yes, actually, I do have an idea how MO2 works. People, including me, tried to help you four months ago. People are still willing to help you today. You need to accept that there is no quick fix and that troubleshooting can be a lengthy, involved process, no matter what the game or tools used. I'll make one last attempt. If it's not an issue with MNC, as suggested by @donttouchmethere, have you tried disabling just a few mods at a time and starting a new game, or tried the 50/50 method? That will eventually tell you exactly where the problem is. 1
donttouchmethere Posted June 9, 2023 Posted June 9, 2023 (edited) 1 minute ago, travelmedic said: 'll make one last attempt. If it's not an issue with MNC, as suggested by @donttouchmethere, have you tried disabling just a few mods at a time and starting a new game, or tried the 50/50 method? That will eventually tell you exactly where the problem is. I fear it's a bit... err... hopeless ? Edited June 9, 2023 by donttouchmethere
Ender Shadowborne Posted June 9, 2023 Author Posted June 9, 2023 53 minutes ago, donttouchmethere said: I fear it's a bit... err... hopeless ? Don't worry about him, he's just salty because he doesn't understand that people like me have a mental condition and aren't as capable as them on understanding... Or more rather that I'm not as seasoned as them or that I don't know from the start how to do things the "right way"... You're helping a bunch
Ender Shadowborne Posted June 9, 2023 Author Posted June 9, 2023 56 minutes ago, travelmedic said: Well as a matter of fact, I do use MO2, for Skyrim, Oblivion, Fallout New Vegas and Fallout 4. In my current Fallout 4, I have 3300+ items/downloads in my left pane, over 1000 of which are active. I also have 587 active plugins in the right pane. The difference is that my game works and runs, even with HD textures and High graphics settings. So yes, actually, I do have an idea how MO2 works. People, including me, tried to help you four months ago. People are still willing to help you today. You need to accept that there is no quick fix and that troubleshooting can be a lengthy, involved process, no matter what the game or tools used. I'll make one last attempt. If it's not an issue with MNC, as suggested by @donttouchmethere, have you tried disabling just a few mods at a time and starting a new game, or tried the 50/50 method? That will eventually tell you exactly where the problem is. I'll make one last attempt. I already know what the trouble mods are, it's just a matter of SORTING them, I need to know where to put them, since this is a LOAD ORDER ISSUE, as the title suggests...
donttouchmethere Posted June 9, 2023 Posted June 9, 2023 (edited) 12 hours ago, Ender Shadowborne said: mental condition and aren't as capable as them on understanding OH! Well that makes sense. 14 hours ago, Ender Shadowborne said: Ahh, I'm using the v12 version, the old one is the one that's been disabled (as indicated by the "-"), I could swear I had Papyrus Util at one point, but I guess not... I'll need to find it and install it, then I'll need to know which mods of mine in particular to move to the end, and if it matters how THEY'RE arranged or not Okay, what I meant was both of your MNC versions are probably old. The v12 version for sure, I can tell from the name. The other version I don't know, but it's also uninstalled. MNC SLAL is at version 15 now. If you add any more MadMansGun (author of a whole series of creature debauchery) mods on top of it you need all the newest versions to make sure they work stable together. What you could try is to: Remove all MNC versions you have installed atm and download the newest one. MNC version 15 Newest Creature framework is this one: CreatureFrameworkV3_0.7z MNC version 15: MoreNastyCritters_v15_1A(SplitVolumeFile).7z.001 100 MB / May 27 MoreNastyCritters_v15_1A(SplitVolumeFile).7z.002 100 MB / May 27 MoreNastyCritters_v15_1A(SplitVolumeFile).7z.003 Put them all in one folder and extract MoreNastyCritters_v15_1A(SplitVolumeFile).7z.001 with 7zip. The rest will automatically extracted with 7z001. Newest Horney Creatures: HornyCreaturesofSkyrim_V2_0A.7z Newest Horny Dragons: SexLabDragonsV5-1a.7z All overwritten by BakaFactory Animated Beasts Cocks This is basically the whole thing how I do it: Optional is optional of course! Spoiler Creature Framework modified by MadMansGun More Nasty Critters SLAL Version Allow to overwrite: XPMSE AIO HDT Pussy Patches for various mods: More Nasty Critter SLAL Patches ⚠️The patches are loose files, don't install all of them, use only the ones needed to patch Mods in your LO Optional for ABC HDT: End All Be All - Rieklings MNC Edition Version Allow to overwrite MNC SLAL makes those Rieklings just look a lot more detailed (also makes them look glossy and gives them a cute sphincter). Optional for ABC HDT: True Wolves Of Skyrim Optional for ABC HDT: SC_Horse Replacer Animated Beast's Cocks (ABC) For users LE Allow to overwrite: ⚠️ EVERYTHING! MNC SLAL AIO-HDT-AP End All Be All - Rieklings True Wolves of Skyrim SC Horse Replacer XPMSE Edited June 9, 2023 by donttouchmethere
donttouchmethere Posted June 9, 2023 Posted June 9, 2023 On 1/18/2023 at 3:54 AM, Ender Shadowborne said: "0018","+","XP32 Maximum Skeleton","https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/26800","1.96.0.0","2023/01/03 21:01:28" That looks to me like the wrong skeleton! If I can trust that link. The wrong skeleton is the worst you can do to your creatures. You want this one: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/68000/? Now I want your FNIS output: Copy & Paste all the text the FNIS Generator creates in it's window.
donttouchmethere Posted June 9, 2023 Posted June 9, 2023 On 1/18/2023 at 3:54 AM, Ender Shadowborne said: "0012","+","MoreNastyCrittersv12","","d2021.11.2.0","2023/01/03 21:21:21" "0013","+","HentaiCreatures","","d2023.1.14.0","2023/01/14 22:51:18" "0014","+","CreatureFramework","","d2023.1.14.0","2023/01/14 22:50:52" "0015","+","JContainers","https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/49743","3.3.0.0.RC.3","2023/01/16 20:21:57" "0016","+","SLAnimLoader","","d2021.11.2.0","2023/01/03 21:22:35" "0017","+","SexLabMatchMaker","","d2021.11.2.0","2023/01/03 21:22:38" "0018","+","XP32 Maximum Skeleton","https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/26800","1.96.0.0","2023/01/03 21:01:28" The overwrite order is wrong too. MNC needs to overwrite XPMSE (skeleton)
donttouchmethere Posted June 9, 2023 Posted June 9, 2023 12 hours ago, Ender Shadowborne said: since this is a LOAD ORDER ISSUE, as the title suggests... I fear it's a bit more: Wrong skeleton Wrong overwrites Old MNC version (v12) Missing PapyrusUtil 3.3 Probably more warnings in FNIS after that we can worry about your Load Order ^^
Ender Shadowborne Posted June 10, 2023 Author Posted June 10, 2023 On 6/9/2023 at 6:37 AM, donttouchmethere said: I fear it's a bit more: Wrong skeleton Wrong overwrites Old MNC version (v12) Missing PapyrusUtil 3.3 Probably more warnings in FNIS after that we can worry about your Load Order ^^ I'll get right on that, it IS, in fact, important to have everything accounted for first, AND to have up-to-date stuff, too! I'll report back once everything is accounted for
Varithina Posted June 10, 2023 Posted June 10, 2023 (edited) Nobody has asked this question of if they have I have not noticed, If you just run the game straight through the steam launcher with no mods does it actually run and be playable? Edited June 10, 2023 by Varithina
Ender Shadowborne Posted June 10, 2023 Author Posted June 10, 2023 On 6/9/2023 at 6:31 AM, donttouchmethere said: That looks to me like the wrong skeleton! If I can trust that link. The wrong skeleton is the worst you can do to your creatures. You want this one: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/68000/? Now I want your FNIS output: Copy & Paste all the text the FNIS Generator creates in it's window. FNIS Behavior V7.6 06/10/2023 08:31:46 Skyrim 32bit: 1.9.32.0 - C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Skyrim\ (Steam) Skeleton(hkx) female: XPMS2HDT (126 bones) male: XPMS2HDT (126 bones) Patch: "SKELETON Arm Fix" Reading Billyy_CreatureBeasts V1.0 ... Reading Billyy_CreatureConstructs V1.0 ... Reading Billyy_CreatureFurniture V1.0 ... Reading Billyy_CreatureHumanoids V1.0 ... Reading Billyy_CreatureInsects V1.0 ... Reading Billyy_CreatureMisc V1.0 ... Reading Billyy_Human V1.0 ... Reading Billyy_HumanFurniture V1.0 ... Reading Billyy_HumanFurnitureInvis V1.0 ... Reading FNISBase V7.6 ... Reading FNISCreatureVersion V7.6 ... Reading HCOSBestiality V1.0 ... Reading HCOSVore V1.0 ... Reading MoreNastyCritters V1.0 ... Reading SexLab V1.62 ... Reading SexLabAroused V?.? ... Reading SexLabCreature V1.61 ... Reading XPMSE V7.2 ... Reading ZaZAnimationPack V7.00 ... All Anim Lists scanned. Generating Behavior Files... Alternate Animation mods: 1 sets: 16 total groups: 30 added file slots: 170 alternate files: 164 Create Creature Behaviors ... Reading Billyy_CreatureConstructs V1.0 ... Reading HCOSWildlife V1.0 ... Reading MoreNastyCritters V1.0 ... Reading Billyy_CreatureBeasts V1.0 ... Reading HCOSBestiality V1.0 ... Reading SexLabCreature V1.62 ... Reading Billyy_CreatureHumanoids V1.0 ... Reading Billyy_CreatureFurniture V1.0 ... Reading Billyy_CreatureInsects V1.0 ... Reading Billyy_CreatureMisc V1.0 ... Reading HCOSVore V1.0 ... 5292 animations for 19 mods successfully included (character) 4027 animations for 11 mods and 45 creatures successfully included. 0 possible consistence issues
Ender Shadowborne Posted June 10, 2023 Author Posted June 10, 2023 53 minutes ago, Varithina said: Nobody has asked this question of if they have I have not noticed, If you just run the game straight through the steam launcher with no mods does it actually run and be playable? Oh good, another purist... This isn't the topic for you, sorry...
Ender Shadowborne Posted June 10, 2023 Author Posted June 10, 2023 On 6/9/2023 at 6:37 AM, donttouchmethere said: I fear it's a bit more: Wrong skeleton Wrong overwrites Old MNC version (v12) Missing PapyrusUtil 3.3 Probably more warnings in FNIS after that we can worry about your Load Order ^^ All finished, just gotta make sure the game still plays as intended
donttouchmethere Posted June 10, 2023 Posted June 10, 2023 2 minutes ago, Ender Shadowborne said: All finished, just gotta make sure the game still plays as intended Good Luck! uiuiui I can't watch ?
donttouchmethere Posted June 10, 2023 Posted June 10, 2023 (edited) I'm still shacking, but your FNIS output looks good ? (although you installed Skyrim in C:\program files, I hope that doesn't come back to bit ya) Edited June 10, 2023 by donttouchmethere
Alessia Wellington Posted June 10, 2023 Posted June 10, 2023 2 minutes ago, donttouchmethere said: I'm still shacking Who's the lucky one you're shacking up with? 1
Ender Shadowborne Posted June 10, 2023 Author Posted June 10, 2023 9 minutes ago, Ender Shadowborne said: All finished, just gotta make sure the game still plays as intended My game still seems to live, however Frankensteined, but it still works
donttouchmethere Posted June 10, 2023 Posted June 10, 2023 1 minute ago, Alessia Wellington said: Who's the lucky one you're shacking up with? ooooh.... It's my translator, she promised me the world but all I can see are lemon trees and a hovercraft full of eels ?♂️
Ender Shadowborne Posted June 10, 2023 Author Posted June 10, 2023 6 minutes ago, donttouchmethere said: I'm still shacking, but your FNIS output looks good ? (although you installed Skyrim in C:\program files, I hope that doesn't come back to bit ya) That's because it's incorrect, FNIS *THINKS* it's installed there, but it's installed in the default install path, FNIS is running via MO2, but we're all good
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