Wasteland Eggspansion

[Alfakentauri]

13 hours ago, cavaleirojustica said:

I noticed a bunch of NPCs are generated with raw jelly in inventory in first place. Having 10 charisma iwll make them spontaneously start having eggs?

 

No, they are just loot. The act of player giving the item is the trigger.

[cavaleirojustica]

Can I make NPCs spawn special eggs that have materials?

[Alfakentauri]

On 6/28/2024 at 7:38 PM, cavaleirojustica said:

Can I make NPCs spawn special eggs that have materials?

 

If you eat crazy amount of jellies, eventually experiment/tentacle eggs appear as an override option in the alien device. It affects both the player and NPCs, because that function isn't separated to be NPC-specific (yet). So, kind of yes, but it isn't a really an intentional feature.

[rubber_duck]

Enjoying the mod so far, but there's an issue with chems (cures) added by it - it doesn't appear in the game. The reason for this is because I run a few mods that alter vendors, and as such over the 20-ish hours of playtime on my save, I didn't find a single cure chem from this mod (to cure jelly addiction, for example).

 

Would you consider adding the recipes for crafting so all cure items are craftable? You can spice this up by adding special eggs as a requirements for crafting (you know, those from Tentacles or something).

 

Also, and this is a minor one, but please consider adding description to consumables - especially Growth and Speed drinks. It's a minor annoyance but I'd still like to see it solved.

 

Other than that, this mod is very good and it really spices up the gameplay! Keep up the great work!

[CreepWallk64]

i love this mod but a translation over to skyrim sse would be awesome as good as a mod as egg factory and its friends like estrus chaurus are they are very dated and feature lite

[Alfakentauri]

14 hours ago, CreepWallk64 said:

i love this mod but a translation over to skyrim sse would be awesome as good as a mod as egg factory and its friends like estrus chaurus are they are very dated and feature lite

 

I feel like it's the other way around. Skyrim has all the fun pregnancy stuff. 

[Alfakentauri]

On 6/30/2024 at 1:33 PM, rubber_duck said:

Enjoying the mod so far, but there's an issue with chems (cures) added by it - it doesn't appear in the game. The reason for this is because I run a few mods that alter vendors, and as such over the 20-ish hours of playtime on my save, I didn't find a single cure chem from this mod (to cure jelly addiction, for example).

 

Cures are only inserted into doctor vendor leveled lists. I could add them to chem dealers. Not sure if that would help in this case. Perhaps adding a Basic Object Swapper rule to turn wine occasionally into a cure. Maybe there's something more useless that could be used for a swap. 

 

On 6/30/2024 at 1:33 PM, rubber_duck said:

Would you consider adding the recipes for crafting so all cure items are craftable? You can spice this up by adding special eggs as a requirements for crafting (you know, those from Tentacles or something).

 

Recipes exist, but they are locked behind finding magazines. MCM/Debug has a command to open recipes without having to explore the Commonwealth.

 

On 6/30/2024 at 1:33 PM, rubber_duck said:

Also, and this is a minor one, but please consider adding description to consumables - especially Growth and Speed drinks. It's a minor annoyance but I'd still like to see it solved.

 

I'll see if the descriptions can be made more informative without turning them into essays.

[CreepWallk64]

33 minutes ago, Alfakentauri said:

 

I feel like it's the other way around. Skyrim has all the fun pregnancy stuff. 

i do agree that skyrim has many mods to do this sort of thing i just really enjoy the way eggfactory/this mod does the concept and would love to see it translated to skyrim properly up to date

[rubber_duck]

1 hour ago, Alfakentauri said:

Cures are only inserted into doctor vendor leveled lists. I could add them to chem dealers. Not sure if that would help in this case. Perhaps adding a Basic Object Swapper rule to turn wine occasionally into a cure. Maybe there's something more useless that could be used for a swap.

 

I've checked over and over again with all vendors in DC (doctor included), and it doesn't show up. Regarding the Base Object Swapper, you could swap herbal remedies (check the table under Diseases here: https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/Fallout_4_diseases). That has the potential for spicing things up due to making remedies rarer. Alternatively, you could swap Addictiol and/or other important health items (RadAway, Calmex, Antibiotics, etc.).

 

1 hour ago, Alfakentauri said:

Recipes exist, but they are locked behind finding magazines. MCM/Debug has a command to open recipes without having to explore the Commonwealth.

 

You're right - I forgot it as I've started the magazines quest but didn't complete it yet. Thanks for heads up!

 

1 hour ago, Alfakentauri said:

I'll see if the descriptions can be made more informative without turning them into essays.

 

No worries! It's a minor thing, and it definitely shouldn't affect the gameplay, but it surely will make the mod feel more 'completed'.

 

Thanks for replying, I really appreciate it! Keep up the great work, the mod is very interesting and fun!

[rubber_duck]

Hey there, another question; I hope you don't mind... I noticed that over the past two (real world) hours, my character automatically consumes jellies and jellied food. That's due to jelly addiction, and it's understandable.

 

However, I went to check out the Device in order to see how many packages my character consumed, and I noticed that 'Unit State' is 'Unscheduled Pregnancy'. What does that mean? It doesn't have percentage indicating progress (like when pregnancy or recovery occurs).

 

On top of that, literally 5 minutes after I checked the status, an animation happened with Tentacles. Correct me if I'm wrong, but those are set to 100% chance of causing a pregnancy. After the animation has finished, my character was supposed to get pregnant by Tentacles, yet the Unit State is still Unscheduled Pregnancy, number of eggs is 0, and so is the weight of eggs (makes sense - no eggs are present).

 

I've configured the mod to use only Annomalies/Animations as pregnancy triggers if it helps somewhat.

 

Did something get messed up? I doubt, but you never know... Any help is much appreciated, keep up the great work!

[Alfakentauri]

9 hours ago, rubber_duck said:

However, I went to check out the Device in order to see how many packages my character consumed, and I noticed that 'Unit State' is 'Unscheduled Pregnancy'. What does that mean? It doesn't have percentage indicating progress (like when pregnancy or recovery occurs).

 

That's a FPE(R) pregnancy indicator. By default, new egg pregnancies won't start if FPE is doing something. There's a MCM/Integration setting to turn it off, but I would recommend keeping it on in order to avoid problems with morphs.

[rubber_duck]

1 hour ago, Alfakentauri said:

 

That's a FPE(R) pregnancy indicator. By default, new egg pregnancies won't start if FPE is doing something. There's a MCM/Integration setting to turn it off, but I would recommend keeping it on in order to avoid problems with morphs.

 

Pardon my French, but shit - I know what it is!

 

I'm running FPE (not Redux; the Ego's version) and forgot that my character is on her period. I use RSE2: RSE (Reproductive System Effects) alongside Ego's FPE and because my character is on her period, no new pregnancies will happen.

 

Thanks for clarifying it out! You might consider changing the string - 'Unscheduled Pregnancy' is, I feel, a vague description and doesn't tell much. If it's possible, change the string to 'On period' or something similar.

 

Oh, and after digging through WLEGG MCM I did find the setting you mentioned. I'll keep it ON as morphs are something I don't want to mess up.

 

Thanks for help, I really appreciate it!

[Alfakentauri]

1 hour ago, rubber_duck said:

Pardon my French, but shit - I know what it is!

 

I'm running FPE (not Redux; the Ego's version) and forgot that my character is on her period. I use RSE2: RSE (Reproductive System Effects) alongside Ego's FPE and because my character is on her period, no new pregnancies will happen.

 

That's good information, thanks for letting me know! It seems RSE puts the player in FPE pregnancy faction during menstruation. I'll see if it’s possible to have separate descriptions for being on the rag and pregnant.

 

1 hour ago, rubber_duck said:

 

Thanks for clarifying it out! You might consider changing the string - 'Unscheduled Pregnancy' is, I feel, a vague description and doesn't tell much. If it's possible, change the string to 'On period' or something similar.

 

Yes, that makes sense lore-wise, but doesn’t communicate what’s going on with the mod on a technical level. I could change to that something like non-egg pregnancy, but FPER has those, so it wouldn't always make sense. 

[rubber_duck]

50 minutes ago, Alfakentauri said:

That's good information, thanks for letting me know! It seems RSE puts the player in FPE pregnancy faction during menstruation. I'll see if it’s possible to have separate descriptions for being on the rag and pregnant.

 

Are the FPE and FPER plugins named identically? If they are not, can you implement a check in your code and then adjust the string accordingly? Something like this:

 

if (FPE plugin installed) {
	// ...
	string statusMsg = "You're on your period and cannot get pregnant";
	// ...
} else if (FPER plugin installed) {
	// ...
	// whatever it is that you do
	// ...
} else {
	// all other cases
	string statusMsg = "Unscheduled pregnancy";
}

 

Again, I don't know if it's possible to do this as I've never written any Papyrus. Hopefully it gives you the idea what I had in mind.

 

Edited July 3, 2024 by rubber_duck

[Alfakentauri]

4 hours ago, rubber_duck said:

 

Are the FPE and FPER plugins named identically? If they are not, can you implement a check in your code and then adjust the string accordingly? Something like this:

 

if (FPE plugin installed) {
	// ...
	string statusMsg = "You're on your period and cannot get pregnant";
	// ...
} else if (FPER plugin installed) {
	// ...
	// whatever it is that you do
	// ...
} else {
	// all other cases
	string statusMsg = "Unscheduled pregnancy";
}

 

Again, I don't know if it's possible to do this as I've never written any Papyrus. Hopefully it gives you the idea what I had in mind.

 

 

Yes, something like that is possible in papyrus. RSE slips in a keyword when it does its thing, so it turned out to be an easy change.

[rubber_duck]

On 7/3/2024 at 3:15 PM, Alfakentauri said:

 

Yes, something like that is possible in papyrus. RSE slips in a keyword when it does its thing, so it turned out to be an easy change.

 

Hmm... I think there's something wrong. After the period is over, the status indicates 'Ready to become pregnant', but my character cannot get pregnant at all.

 

This is what was happening with WLEGG on my save:

 

1st pregnancy: Yum Yum Eggs - worked normally, character laid a bunch of chicken eggs.

2nd pregnancy: Tentacles - caused by me manually initiating a scene, everything functioned properly.

 

Then the RSE period happened. It lasted 7 in-game days, and during those 7 days, the status indicated 'Unscheduled pregnancy'. During this time, my character participated in 2 scenes with Tentacles, so she should've gotten pregnant but due to periods - she did not, and that's understandable.

 

However, now that the period is over (and her status is ready), she participated in 4 new Tentacle scenes - none of which got her pregnant.

 

During the 1st scene (of those new 3 after period), she was equipped with FPE Condom, so that would explain why she didn't get pregnant. So I unequipped the Condom from her.

During the 2nd scene, she sufficed every possible condition that'd cause pregnancy (scene started perfectly fine, no Condom equipped), yet she didn't get pregnant again.

 

I then started digging. At first I thought it was because of another mod, Provocative Perks. I use that mod to spawn Tentacles upon killing the hostile NPC. I don't think the mod in question is responsible as it only spawns the Tentacles and doesn't control anything else.

 

I then manually initiated the 3rd scene by manually placing a new tentacle to her position. The outcome was the same, all other mods function properly, but to WLEGG she is still not pregnant (despite meeting all the conditions to do so).

 

Then it dawned on me, I'm running Native Animation Framework (NAF) as well as AAF to NAF Bridge - maybe the issue is because all the scenes are initiated and played by NAF rather than AAF? So I then manually initiated another scene in AAF - and the outcome was the same. She cannot get pregnant with eggs at all.

 

I've configured WLEGG to use Annomalies to determine pregnancy (hence the scene stuff I just wrote), and I've set mod update delay to 4 in-game hours. It could be that I need to wait 4 in-game hours and then she'll get pregnant, but I honestly doubt it. After my first manual Tentacles scene (before RSE period), I'd bet she's gotten pregnant immediately after the scene. Oh, and regarding the FPE Condoms, I'd bet she was equipped with one once the first Tentacle pregnancy happened (manually initiated NAF scene, before RSE period).

 

Could you take a look at this? It could be that RSE leaves a permanent change once character gets the first period, but I'm not entirely sure. It'd be a shame not to use this mod now that I've tried it and ended up liking it a lot.

 

Hopefully you'll be able to do something, or provide more info. Thanks in advance!

[Alfakentauri]

47 minutes ago, rubber_duck said:

 

Hmm... I think there's something wrong. After the period is over, the status indicates 'Ready to become pregnant', but my character cannot get pregnant at all.

 

This is what was happening with WLEGG on my save:

 

1st pregnancy: Yum Yum Eggs - worked normally, character laid a bunch of chicken eggs.

2nd pregnancy: Tentacles - caused by me manually initiating a scene, everything functioned properly.

 

Then the RSE period happened. It lasted 7 in-game days, and during those 7 days, the status indicated 'Unscheduled pregnancy'. During this time, my character participated in 2 scenes with Tentacles, so she should've gotten pregnant but due to periods - she did not, and that's understandable.

 

However, now that the period is over (and her status is ready), she participated in 4 new Tentacle scenes - none of which got her pregnant.

 

During the 1st scene (of those new 3 after period), she was equipped with FPE Condom, so that would explain why she didn't get pregnant. So I unequipped the Condom from her.

During the 2nd scene, she sufficed every possible condition that'd cause pregnancy (scene started perfectly fine, no Condom equipped), yet she didn't get pregnant again.

 

I then started digging. At first I thought it was because of another mod, Provocative Perks. I use that mod to spawn Tentacles upon killing the hostile NPC. I don't think the mod in question is responsible as it only spawns the Tentacles and doesn't control anything else.

 

I then manually initiated the 3rd scene by manually placing a new tentacle to her position. The outcome was the same, all other mods function properly, but to WLEGG she is still not pregnant (despite meeting all the conditions to do so).

 

Then it dawned on me, I'm running Native Animation Framework (NAF) as well as AAF to NAF Bridge - maybe the issue is because all the scenes are initiated and played by NAF rather than AAF? So I then manually initiated another scene in AAF - and the outcome was the same. She cannot get pregnant with eggs at all.

 

I've configured WLEGG to use Annomalies to determine pregnancy (hence the scene stuff I just wrote), and I've set mod update delay to 4 in-game hours. It could be that I need to wait 4 in-game hours and then she'll get pregnant, but I honestly doubt it. After my first manual Tentacles scene (before RSE period), I'd bet she's gotten pregnant immediately after the scene. Oh, and regarding the FPE Condoms, I'd bet she was equipped with one once the first Tentacle pregnancy happened (manually initiated NAF scene, before RSE period).

 

Could you take a look at this? It could be that RSE leaves a permanent change once character gets the first period, but I'm not entirely sure. It'd be a shame not to use this mod now that I've tried it and ended up liking it a lot.

 

Hopefully you'll be able to do something, or provide more info. Thanks in advance!

 

I think I know what's going on and it's an internal bug in Eggspansion. Consuming Yum Yum should get the pregnancies going again. If not, changing to some other mode like Jelly Activation until a pregnancy happens should do the trick. Funnily enough, I recently made a change that fixes that problem even though I wasn't aware of it. That is, removing once per pregnancy limit of animation activities causing things.

 

Thanks for the thorough description, it was easy to figure out what was the problem without even looking at the code.

[rubber_duck]

19 minutes ago, Alfakentauri said:

 

I think I know what's going on and it's an internal bug in Eggspansion. Consuming Yum Yum should get the pregnancies going again. If not, changing to some other mode like Jelly Activation until a pregnancy happens should do the trick. Funnily enough, I recently made a change that fixes that problem even though I wasn't aware of it. That is, removing once per pregnancy limit of animation activities causing things.

 

Thanks for the thorough description, it was easy to figure out what was the problem without even looking at the code.

 

Glad you got it sorted out! When are you planning to push out an update? I'm eager to start exploring the Wasteland again with the risk of Tentacles appearing and making my character pregnant! 😁

[Alfakentauri]

30 minutes ago, rubber_duck said:

 

Glad you got it sorted out! When are you planning to push out an update? I'm eager to start exploring the Wasteland again with the risk of Tentacles appearing and making my character pregnant! 😁

 

I've only minor changes and fixes coming up, but I ended up getting rid of SUP F4SE dependency and switching over to Garden of Eden, so I'm afraid there's more a bit testing to be done before everything is ready to go.

[rubber_duck]

13 minutes ago, Alfakentauri said:

 

I've only minor changes and fixes coming up, but I ended up getting rid of SUP F4SE dependency and switching over to Garden of Eden, so I'm afraid there's more a bit testing to be done before everything is ready to go.

 

Oh, okay. Really looking forward to it! I've heard of GoE script extender, but I've never used it (no other mods require it). Hopefully everything will play together fine in the end.

 

Keep up the great work, can't wait for the update!

[Annex_Ethan]

Will this ever be available on xbox, due to the fact that my laptop cannot run f4 sadly

[Alfakentauri]

8 hours ago, Annex_Ethan said:

Will this ever be available on xbox, due to the fact that my laptop cannot run f4 sadly

 

Like with many mods, depending on script extender to do neat tricks like body morphs means that an xbox version isn't possible. That's just on a technical level. I don't have a console, but I'm pretty sure everything there is heavily censored.

[MysticDaedra]

Is there a list of the potential eggs, including the experimental/tentacle ones?

 

Found something called a "spidersilk egg", not sure if it came from this mod or not. Worth a whopping 50 ballistic fiber, seems crazy.

[Alfakentauri]

5 hours ago, MysticDaedra said:

Is there a list of the potential eggs, including the experimental/tentacle ones?

 

Found something called a "spidersilk egg", not sure if it came from this mod or not. Worth a whopping 50 ballistic fiber, seems crazy.

 

Must be from some creature mod. Unique Creatures, perhaps? A nest found in the Glowing Sea and near Cambridge?

 

All Eggspansion eggs are listed inside spoiler boxes on the description page. No ninja additions currently.

 

So many creatures. I could spend rest of my modding days just adding new egg types.

[BigNtheBadass]

If possible I'd like to get hold of a version which doesn't have RobCo Patcher as a hard requirement, as nothing else in my active mod list or overall collection requires it.