{UPDATE - Elin Voice v2.1 with Throw Voice Replacer Options} Tera Elin Race

[captainzoltar]

So ive been using the original 2ch elin race from 2012, and have been happy with the shape for many years... felt it looked genuine, so why change it.

 

Looks like youve been and are actively working on this, so im intrigued. Very glad that there is someone continuing to work on this. But I'm wondering. I see a lot of screenshots of elin that look slightly different or morphed or something. is this the effect of body slide?

 

I'm only interested in elin that look as close to tera as possible. this is the body ive been using.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Do your elins look like this? these also had shoes built in to the feet, so thats what they look liike with no shoes on.

 

problem with using this old version is that it still has the clipped hands, feet, and sometimes hair.

 

[PsychoMachina]

The Elin body/hands/feet (with shoes) are included with main pack.  This is the default body, but clothes for that body is limited for now.  Why make different bodies, ie., CBBE and UNP variants?  People want to be able to easily use armors they like and not all of them are from Tera or inspired by them.  Also bodyslide is highly popular especially with the new RaceMenu armor morphs, people want an Elin that suits their own taste.

 

As for the pics you posted, are they the 'armors' that came out before there was a playable Elin race? 

 

Personally, I prefer the original body, the one that serves as the default body.  I have some armor models from Tera (reaper/succubus, sailer, student, and cash shop) and will convert them to the original body.  

Edited October 28, 2015 by PsychoMachina

[PsychoMachina]

Btw, the issue I had with some of the Elin NPCs having dark faces and the game crashing when loading my saves was due to Mindflux' subsurface scattering patch which contains facegeoms of some of the NPCs.  It was overwriting the Elin NPCs.  Corrected the mod order in MO and so far so good.

 

 

[LordKeima]

Sorry to bother, but how do I go about properly exporting facegen after I edited a NPC's face(in this case, Lydia) in CK? I loaded both the NPC replacer and AIO hairpack(loose files version) to change her hair to the twintails and did a Ctrl + F4 after I was done. The resulting facegen basically broke any saves with Lydia in it until I deleted the facegeoms and facetints.

 

 

[TLDR]

After tweaking her face and changing her Hair to the twintails. I did a Ctrl + F4 and managed to get the facegens to save. Started up the game, tried to load a game and CTD after a while of loading. Didn't take me long to find out the crash was caused by hdtSkyrimMemPatch with a Fatal error and a bunch of faulting modules involving TESV.exe and sometimes kernal32.dll. Took me an hour of disabling the esp I created for the modified Lydia, uninstalling and reinstalling the loosefile hairpack and twintail fix (the game only started breaking after installing these 2 mods) and loading saves to realise that creating a New game did not CTD, nor were the old saves where I had not met Lydia yet.

 

The moment when the game crashed when I tried to spawn Lydia in one of the older non crash saves then did it dawn on me that it must be the facegen causing the problem. Went into Skyrim's directory and found the loose files for the facegens in "meshes\actors\character\FaceGenData\FaceGeom\Skyrim.esm" and "textures\Actors\character\FaceGenData\FaceTint\Skyrim.esm" which as why the game crashed even though I disabled the Lydia modification esp since these loose files get loaded into the game anyway. deleted them and the game stopped crashing, though Lydia now looked pretty stupid with a dark face.

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PS: yes, I know those tags don't exist.

[PsychoMachina]

I found out the cause for the crashing last night when I wanted to see what would happen when adding an HDT hair to Lydia.

 

Blame the crashing on HDT.  When you modify an NPC using Elin race v1.5, do not use the HDT ears/tails because that is what causing the crashing.  You can use the ears/tails that come with the Elin hairs from the HAIRS slider, just not the standalone ears/tails that is chosen from the ADDITIONS slider, these contain the HDT version.  The facegeom that comes with Elin NPC and Enemy stores the non-HDT ears/tails and when you try to update those NPCs using Elin 1.5, the new facegeom will start using the HDT ears/tails.

 

If you wonder why if you change Lydia's hair without creating new facegeom the game loads without incident, it's because she continues to use the original facegeom from the Elin replacer mod even though she appears with the HDT (stiff) fox tail.

 

I'll have to make changes to the Main race files to include the original, non-HDT ears/tails for use with the NPCs.

 

In other news, I'm almost done with the all-in-one HDT hairpack.  I'll try to upload them later today.

 

 

[Mud]

I believe that goes for any NPC that you try to apply HDT to in the CK - it just doesn't work. I heard that people who wanted to make followers with HDT hair had to settle for making the hair a wig and including it as part of their base outfit.

[PsychoMachina]

I believe that goes for any NPC that you try to apply HDT to in the CK - it just doesn't work. I heard that people who wanted to make followers with HDT hair had to settle for making the hair a wig and including it as part of their base outfit.

 

True.  Something about the HDT tail bones not being able to me mapped which will cause the game to crash.

[PsychoMachina]

UPDATE

 

The Elin HDT hairs are available in both BSA and loose files version.  The Elin Mods-Mega Links text file has been updated to include the download links to both HDT hair packs.

 

IMPORTANT

Some of the tight-fitting hairs will still clip on the sides.  I'll see about fixing that with morphs taken from Elin 2.

Some hairs do not have physics.  Certain original HDT hair packs included static hairs.

Some hair selections will not appear (bald head) if you do not have the Elin AIO hairpack (non-HDT version) installed.  These hairs share the Numenume files from the AIO non-HDT mod.

 

 

[PsychoMachina]

If anyone knows how to get RaceMenu to correctly load an Elin preset, I would be grateful.  Currently, RM fails to load certain customizations, like the eye shape and color, and the ears/tails.

[Mud]

I couldn't get those to work, either. Had to set them myself every time.

 

Which hair pack is this HDT pack made from? I'd like to go find some reference pictures.

[PsychoMachina]

Edited the main post to include links to the original HDT hairs.  Check under the CREDITS section.

[PsychoMachina]

UPDATE

 

Uploaded a modder's kit for use when creating followers or creating/modifying Elin NPCs.  The kit contains 3 folders, HDT Elin Ears and Tails, HDT Elin Ears and Tails-Color Matching, and the non-HDT Elin Ears and Tails, and instructions.

 

Basically, you install the non-HDT files before creating or modifying an Elin NPC.  The non-HDT headparts will be stored in the newly generated facegeom thus preventing your game from crashing.

After you're done, reinstall the HDT ears and tail files.

 

 

[captainzoltar]

The Elin body/hands/feet (with shoes) are included with main pack.  This is the default body, but clothes for that body is limited for now.  Why make different bodies, ie., CBBE and UNP variants?  People want to be able to easily use armors they like and not all of them are from Tera or inspired by them.  Also bodyslide is highly popular especially with the new RaceMenu armor morphs, people want an Elin that suits their own taste.

 

As for the pics you posted, are they the 'armors' that came out before there was a playable Elin race? 

 

Personally, I prefer the original body, the one that serves as the default body.  I have some armor models from Tera (reaper/succubus, sailer, student, and cash shop) and will convert them to the original body.  

 

Ah, those variants make sense now, true. 

 

The only armors i use for elin are the ones from the summon elin ring mod. right now theyre the only ones that properly fit the body i use.

 

Youre converting armors? awesome. Ive really wanted to get back into 3d modeling. if i had the skills now i would convert all the armors to the default elin body.

[PsychoMachina]

2015 December 06

 

Added all files that were uploaded to the other (now archived) LL site after November 02.

[PsychoMachina]

Need Testers!!!

 

I have updated the Elin skeleton for XPMSE v3.61.  Everything appears to work when used with ECE, but I'm having problems when using with RaceMenu.  Just so everyone knows I'm not using RaceMenu and ECE together.

 

If anyone can help, I need to know if the Elins/updated Elin skeleton works with XPMSE 3.61 and the latest RaceMenu.  The features I need verification with (are they functional? are they NOT functional?) are:

• XPMSE MCM Menu
• Body Sliders
• Weapon Sliders
• Beast Sliders

You need to make sure you have the latest files for,

• XPMSE
• RaceMenu
• SKSE
• Realistic Ragdolls
• FNIS
• Dual Sheath Redux

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Elin Race v1.7 BETA

2015Dec10_MAIN_ElinRace_v1-7_BETA.7z

[lizleihi]

I made a quick test and the sliders from the weapons and body sections seemed to work well for me. The same goes for the XPMSE MCM menu. I don't know if that's on purpose but I did notice that in the beast sliders only Tail #NAME# 1 to 4 modified the size of the tail while from 5 to 8 didn't change anything. Also tail lenght sliders didn't made much of a difference although maybe is just me not noticing it.

By the way, is it normal for the HDT tails to become longer when running?

[lafourminoir]

hi hi . 

 

more a litle help please ? i have more one time all reinstall and instal - elin race v.1.6 - new body cbbe + textures

 

 

no new version for dis ?

 

ElinRace NPC - Added Hearthfires Housecarl +  Hearthfires-Lakeview Manor Extended-Elin NPC Complete

 

 

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well after instal the news mods its nice the bodys but all times the same litle bug the head texture no match with the body .

 

 

after instal new cbbe body and textures  cbbe not match ?

 

please give me one tip for see wat file is , and wat texture i need for instal for match the head for npc elin and cbbe bodys .

 

 

 

 

[PsychoMachina]

I made a quick test and the sliders from the weapons and body sections seemed to work well for me. The same goes for the XPMSE MCM menu. I don't know if that's on purpose but I did notice that in the beast sliders only Tail #NAME# 1 to 4 modified the size of the tail while from 5 to 8 didn't change anything. Also tail lenght sliders didn't made much of a difference although maybe is just me not noticing it.

 

By the way, is it normal for the HDT tails to become longer when running?

 

Thank you very much, LIzleihi.  I now know the problems I'm experiencing only happens to me.  I'll go ahead and release v1.7 by tomorrow.

 

Each tail slider affects the corresponding tailbone.  Example: Tail 01 Thickness will scale the Tail 01 tailbone; Tail 05 Thickness will scale the Tail 05 tailbone.  Each tail uses a certain number of tailbones, ie., Bunny tail uses 3 (HDT tailbone 01 to 03) and Fox tail uses 5 (HDT tailbone 01 to 05), so if a slider does not work it's because the tail you have equipped does not use that tailbone.  None of the longer Elin tails uses more than 5 tailbones so the Tail sliders 06 and higher will do nothing.

 

I don't think the Tail Length sliders will matter much since the tails can also be lengthen by using the other sliders to adjust the scaling of each tailbone.

 

The HDT tails should not stretch any longer than their normal length when standing still.  It's one of those physics bugs associated with HDT, you are moving faster than the game can process the physics and the tail (affects HDT hairs also) stretch until you stop.  Now I did not include the HDT Memory Patch with Elin v1.6 and the 1.7 beta.  If you never had the tail stretching before updating to v1.6 then it's related to the Memory Patch.  I'll add them back when I officially release v1.7.

 

Again, thank you for your feedback.

 

 

hi hi . 

 

more a litle help please ? i have more one time all reinstall and instal - elin race v.1.6 - new body cbbe + textures

 

 

no new version for dis ?

 

ElinRace NPC - Added Hearthfires Housecarl +  Hearthfires-Lakeview Manor Extended-Elin NPC Complete

 

 

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well after instal the news mods its nice the bodys but all times the same litle bug the head texture no match with the body .

 

 

after instal new cbbe body and textures  cbbe not match ?

 

please give me one tip for see wat file is , and wat texture i need for instal for match the head for npc elin and cbbe bodys .

 

 

 

 

Hi.

 

Starting with Elin Race Main v1.6, I'm using a different head mesh and face morphs.  This is to fix some hairs clipping into the head, mainly from the front, top, and back.  There will still be some clipping near the ears.

This also will cause some Elin NPCs to have a dark face.  I updated the Elin NPC and Enemy mod to v3.2 to include all new facegeoms to remove the dark faces.  I also updated the TEXT file to include the download link.

 

From the original post:

 

* 2015 December 06 - Updated the Elin Mods Mega Links Text File.

*** Files ***

* Elin-mods-mega-links-update-2015Nov12.txt

Latest link is for the Elin Race NPC and Enemy v3.2 (2015Nov12_OPTION_ElinRace_NPC-n-Enemy_Complete_v3.2.7z).

• Fixes some potential bugs because of the new head mesh and face morphs introduced with Elin Race v1.5.
• If you are using Elin NPC and Enemy Complete v3.1 and experience Elins with stiff tails, dark face, or some other oddities then uninstall v3.1 before upgrading to v3.2.
• Added options to install 'ElinRace NPC' with or without Hearthfires Housecarl Rayya.

IMPORTANT

1. If choosing the Housecarl Rayya option, you must have the Hearthfires DLC.

2. If you are currently using the Housecarl Rayya replacer from the Elin Race DLC Edition mod page, uninstall that before installing NPC and Enemy Complete v3.2.

 

 

Also be warned that there is a bug with Aela that happens after she transforms into a werewolf during the Companions quest; the game does not know if she is an Elin or a Nord so she becomes an Elin with her original Nord body.  Also her tail will stretch to infinity.

 

I remember someone found or created a fix for her.  I'll have to search for the information.

[PsychoMachina]

UPDATE - 2015Dec10 MAIN Elin Race v1.7

 

Version 1.7 now uses a modified XPMS Extended 3.61 skeleton.  Groovtama made some changes to the skeletons so now the Elins uses a modified XPMSE 3.61 skeleton.

Elin Race Main v1.6 is still available for anyone who do not want to use the latest XPMSE and required files for XPMSE.

 

Color Match Edition for Elin 1.7 is also available.

 

[lafourminoir]

after instal the new versions more litles bugs . sure the head texture its litle beter but not fixed .

 

and many npc replaces its nude .

 

 

2 pics one with the NMM with all mods elin and another with the face screen .

 

can you tell me wat mod need unistal ? 

 

i try instal ElinRace NPC and Enemy v3.1 but blok 50% - fail  instal NMM

 

 

[PsychoMachina]

The pink forehead is caused by a Creation Kit bug when using custom face tints.  The only mod you need to uninstall, at this time, is Elin NPC and Enemy v3.1 and continue with v3.2 until I fix this.

 

I will also have to check the Hearthfires Elins and Serana, but this will take awhile because I'm not done building Lakeview Manor and I have not progressed with the Dawnguard quest.

[PsychoMachina]

UPDATE - Elin NPC and Enemy v3.2.1

 

Removed the pink foreheads that were affecting the Elins when I created the new facegeoms for v3.2.

The download link is added to my Elin Mods Mega Links text file so that has been updated too.

 

[PsychoMachina]

UPDATE - Modder's Elin NPC Creation Fix Kit v2

 

Added low resolution and high resolution Elin tintmasks.

When creating or editing an Elin follower or NPC, install the low resolution tintmasks BEFORE creating the new facegeom/facetints to avoid the off-color forehead bug.

When done and before you start your game, install the high resolution tintmasks to remove the pixelated face tints.  This is more of a visual preference of the user so this step is optional.

[darkenedradiance]

so i'm having ttroubles, i can't get the CBBE textures to work with this, i always en up with the underwear in the game

anyone got any idea what's the issue?

[PsychoMachina]

so i'm having ttroubles, i can't get the CBBE textures to work with this, i always en up with the underwear in the game

anyone got any idea what's the issue?

 

Q1.  The CBBE textures from the Elin CBBE NewBody Texture Pack?

A1.  Try reinstalling or manual install.

 

 

Extract the Elin texture pack, open the folder containing the textures you want to use, and copy the Textures folder then paste and merge with the Texture folder containing the Elin files.

 

 

 

 

Q2.  Any other CBBE textures?

A2.  Copy/Paste the texture files to 'Textures > Actors > 2chElin Texture Fix' and overwrite what files are there, if any.