Bimbos Of Skyrim LE/SE

[Balgin]

56 minutes ago, foreveraloneguy said:

 

I don't get hung up on this as long as they don't look like children. I mean, I once went out with a fully grown woman who's 4'11" and I'm 6'3". Granted, it was a dare from our friends because they thought it'd be funny for some reason. And believe me, no one mistook her for a child, nor could you from any direction. And by the same token, my youngest daughter is now 6'1", and hit 5'8" before she was 16. So if you're going to equate height with age, that just ain't right.

Same here. One of my favourite people is around 5'0". I hit 5'4" by the age of 11 or 12. For most of my childhood I stood half a head taller than most of the children in my class (I would have been the tallest but we had a girl who was practically a bean pole). My teenage growth spurt was a mere 4" which slowed me down to a fairly normal adult height. I don't have issues with size but sometimes, if I'm walking through Whiterun and see all the children running past about my height and think "I wouldn't want them to be doing the grown up things that I do"..... That makes me stop and think if it would be uncomfortable for other people.

 

Ironically my niece is very tall for her age. She slowed down a bit once she hit 5 or 6 but when she was 2, she was the size of a 3 year old, when she was three she was pushing the size of a four and a half year old. We're all different sizes and that's part of the beauty of life. Skyrim can have issues if we're outside certain size parameters, 'though.

[mccp20]

Hi, I seem to have found a small bug. The ponytail in the bimbo hairstyle cannot be selected. If you click on the ponytail, it will automatically jump to the previous menu screen, but other hairstyles can be selected normally. (sorry for bad English, its GoogleTranslate.)

[SquipLightfoot]

It would be awesome if there was a setting in the MCM so that sex with anyone in the Dibella faction would raise corruption by a configurable amount.  (PC and NPCs)  you could start a bimbo apocalypse in Skyrim with the help of a mod like adcsexlife.

 

Once the player or NPC was bimbofied, they would become a member of the Dibella faction.

Edited January 15, 2023 by SquipLightfoot
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[Wut1969]

5 hours ago, foreveraloneguy said:

 

I don't get hung up on this as long as they don't look like children. I mean, I once went out with a fully grown woman who's 4'11" and I'm 6'3".

There are mods however that also change how children look in Skyrim. I had to disable one from my modlist as it, in combination with a few other mods, resulted in unwanted behavior.

So it's probably best to avoid moving into that direction with Bimbos.

 

On a side note; any chance that your vertical condition will improve or did you really stop growing? ?

[Balgin]

4 hours ago, SquipLightfoot said:

It would be awesome if there was a setting in the MCM so that sex with anyone in the Dibella faction would raise corruption by a configurable amount.

They already can. You just can't configure it yet. And it's only the wandering sisters of Dibella.

[brewmasterhal]

On the subject of height:

 

The child races in the base game have their height set to 0.8, or 80% of the height of an average playable character.

 

In the US, until about 2015, the average man's height was 5'10" or 70 inches, while the average woman was 5'4" or 64 inches.  Due to the rate of immigration from Latin cultures, the average for both men and women has fallen by about an inch each in recent years, which is weird since world-wide trends are around +2 inches per generation.  If you do the math, you find that the average woman is just over 91% of the height of the average man.  This ratio is more-or-less constant worldwide, from the Scandinavians whose men average about 6'3" to the East Asians whose men average about 5'4".

 

If you multiply an average man's height by 0.8, you get a bit over 4.6 feet tall, which roughly corresponds to a 10-year-old child.  Male or female doesn't matter at that age, they don't start to exhibit significant dimorphism until after puberty.  An 86% height mod corresponds to about a 12-year-old, with slight variance between sexes.  Also, due to the square-cube law, a character with a scale of 0.8 has a volume only just above half that of a character with a 1.0 scale.

 

All of this is academic, though, since nobody makes any animations for characters that have height variance.  Every SLAL pack you can find on this site is designed for both the man and the woman to be exactly 1.0 scale.  Dimorphism of about 2% between participants causes significant alignment problems, and deviation from 1.0 by more than about 4% for any participant will fail to align with things like furniture, even if all participants have the same scale.

[Balgin]

1 minute ago, brewmasterhal said:

All of this is academic, though, since nobody makes any animations for characters that have height variance.  Every SLAL pack you can find on this site is designed for both the man and the woman to be exactly 1.0 scale.  Dimorphism of about 2% between participants causes significant alignment problems, and deviation from 1.0 by more than about 4% for any participant will fail to align with things like furniture, even if all participants have the same scale.

Which is a real shame as one of my favourite characters is a small scrawny underdeveloped woman with a large head - sort of an Ali Mc Beal lollipop head look (but less extreme). Things often don't line up well.

[jib_buttkiss]

6 hours ago, SquipLightfoot said:

It would be awesome if there was a setting in the MCM so that sex with anyone in the Dibella faction would raise corruption by a configurable amount.  (PC and NPCs)  you could start a bimbo apocalypse in Skyrim with the help of a mod like adcsexlife.

 

Once the player or NPC was bimbofied, they would become a member of the Dibella faction.

 

It's not quite what you're asking for, but in the next update the bimbo corruption system is being expanded to NPCs as well as the player, and sex with a bimbo will add some corruption. So if you had adcSexlife and a bimbo was in a town eventually the curse would spread to everyone (might take a hell of a long time though!).

 

But for your exact scenario, since corruption is added using simple ModEvents, it's pretty easy for any other mod authors to add situations like what you've suggested.

 

14 minutes ago, brewmasterhal said:

On the subject of height:

 

The child races in the base game have their height set to 0.8, or 80% of the height of an average playable character.

 

In the US, until about 2015, the average man's height was 5'10" or 70 inches, while the average woman was 5'4" or 64 inches.  Due to the rate of immigration from Latin cultures, the average for both men and women has fallen by about an inch each in recent years, which is weird since world-wide trends are around +2 inches per generation.  If you do the math, you find that the average woman is just over 91% of the height of the average man.  This ratio is more-or-less constant worldwide, from the Scandinavians whose men average about 6'3" to the East Asians whose men average about 5'4".

 

If you multiply an average man's height by 0.8, you get a bit over 4.6 feet tall, which roughly corresponds to a 10-year-old child.  Male or female doesn't matter at that age, they don't start to exhibit significant dimorphism until after puberty.  An 86% height mod corresponds to about a 12-year-old, with slight variance between sexes.  Also, due to the square-cube law, a character with a scale of 0.8 has a volume only just above half that of a character with a 1.0 scale.

 

All of this is academic, though, since nobody makes any animations for characters that have height variance.  Every SLAL pack you can find on this site is designed for both the man and the woman to be exactly 1.0 scale.  Dimorphism of about 2% between participants causes significant alignment problems, and deviation from 1.0 by more than about 4% for any participant will fail to align with things like furniture, even if all participants have the same scale.

 

Yeah... let's put a lid on the height discussion. Child-height uncomfortableness aside, the technical issues make it a can of worms not worth opening. If you want a short (or tall) bimbo, the setscale console command can handle it.

Edited January 15, 2023 by jib_buttkiss

[MysticDaedra]

13 minutes ago, jib_buttkiss said:

Yeah... let's put a lid on the height discussion. Child-height uncomfortableness aside, the technical issues make it a can of worms not worth opening. If you want a short (or tall) bimbo, the setscale console command can handle it.

Or just use RaceMenu. I agree with jib tho, I think figuring out height changes is a lot of work for a rather small benefit. I'd much rather see improvements/additions to quests and other body changes that don't mess with... practically everything lol.

[SquipLightfoot]

I'm looking forward to the update.  I think this update would make it more feasible for the follower to be the instrument of the Dragonborn's downfall.  

 

Many of us will impatiently be waiting to see what new ideas you can come up with and implement.  I'm afraid that is the price of success.  Thanks for your work!

[Efgad]

On 1/14/2023 at 12:14 AM, Balgin said:

Same here. UNP is popular but YPS uses CBBE and UNP doesn't work so well for YPS.

 

I mean, if you're using the nail meshes this is true. Elsewise it works for me alright enough. I still have the issue of hair not growing. Which is frustrating.

[joeyjoejoejrshabadoo]

@jib_buttkiss I have been thinking about ideas, and given how awesome your mod is so far and that you've been awesome with fielding questions and entertaining ideas....

 

You've mentioned your respect for DeepBlueFrog's mods, especially Hormones. That mod (and some of his others like Sisterhood of Dibella and Sanguine's Debauchery) really made Skyrim awesome for me. Those mods use Hormones to trigger a gender change in male PCs completing their quests/storylines - in the case of Sisterhood it procs after rescuing the Sybil of Dibella and having sex with her or any other female and in Sanguine's Debauchery he swaps your gender as part of the storyline.

 

My suggestion would be to use those mod's events to tie into yours - why reinvent the wheel? I think you've really taken the bimbofication idea to the next level over DBF's mod, given that another modder (Aegis) already wrote some improvements for it. If you wanted to include a gender swap and bimbofication of a male PC, those mod's events could lead into yours. And I, for one, would love that. For example, after saving the Sybil in the Sisterhood quest and having Dibella's Grace wash over you, that could either include a severe dose of bimbo corruption from your mod - or an instant trigger of the curse from the start.

 

It would be a soft requirement for your mod if anyone wanted to gender swap and bimbofy a male player character. I play with both, just with Hormone's bimbo curse disabled so that yours works for that purpose.

 

Anyways, keep up the good work!

[lorddenorstrus]

18 hours ago, mccp20 said:

Hi, I seem to have found a small bug. The ponytail in the bimbo hairstyle cannot be selected. If you click on the ponytail, it will automatically jump to the previous menu screen, but other hairstyles can be selected normally. (sorry for bad English, its GoogleTranslate.)

+1 noticed the same issue.

 

Also; Has anyone noticed their Race Menu Textures - Body - Head - Hands - Feet etc all being switched from "Default" to "Blank" the blank counts as "In use" for Slave tats and has to be switched to Default to modify anything.  Issue goes away when I disable this mods ESP.

[MysticDaedra]

37 minutes ago, lorddenorstrus said:

+1 noticed the same issue.

 

Also; Has anyone noticed their Race Menu Textures - Body - Head - Hands - Feet etc all being switched from "Default" to "Blank" the blank counts as "In use" for Slave tats and has to be switched to Default to modify anything.  Issue goes away when I disable this mods ESP.

That's how mods "claim" specific overlay slots in RaceMenu/slavetats.

[BrainwaveDisruptor]

I seem to be unable to change hairstyles for a fully bimbofied character. When I try, it says they're wearing a devious devices hood. But... they arent tho. Or at least not visibly so. I think I've seen someone having an issue like this earlier in this chat, but the solution I've seen there was to update to 1.4.2. Now, that's all well and good but, I am on version 1.4.2

Btw, my PC isn't even bimbofied yet, and I have to say this again. This is 10 times better bimbo content than hormones. All the writing, quests, mechanics, TFs, LESS JANKINESS WITH HOW THE MOD WORKS (save for the few slight issues, but still... a lot less compared to hormones).
Once again, very good job, keep up the amazing work

Edited January 16, 2023 by BrainwaveDisruptor

[Slagblah]

I found a problem with Bimbo Hair Long. It seems to be missing the SexLabNoStrip Keyword.

[Hochhalter1]

I think it's the hair packs you guys are using. I've been able to change the hair styles (but not color sometimes?) using the makeover power. also if you're using fpy's fashion, you can use the elastic band and comb to get other styles. I can't seem to get fpy's barber chairs to work myself however:P i generally only use hdt/smp hairs, so I only install others when i absolutely need too. The hairs that seem to be working the best for me are the KS hdt ones.

 

[CornyRabbit696]

Loot reports deleted Navmeshes ?  can you fix those please ?

[jib_buttkiss]

7 hours ago, BrainwaveDisruptor said:

I seem to be unable to change hairstyles for a fully bimbofied character. When I try, it says they're wearing a devious devices hood. But... they arent tho. Or at least not visibly so. I think I've seen someone having an issue like this earlier in this chat, but the solution I've seen there was to update to 1.4.2. Now, that's all well and good but, I am on version 1.4.2

Btw, my PC isn't even bimbofied yet, and I have to say this again. This is 10 times better bimbo content than hormones. All the writing, quests, mechanics, TFs, LESS JANKINESS WITH HOW THE MOD WORKS (save for the few slight issues, but still... a lot less compared to hormones).
Once again, very good job, keep up the amazing work

 

Glad you're enjoying it!

 

Yeah that item equip filter has gone a bit rogue. For a workaround until I fix it, try setting the hair to their default hair then to the one you want and see if that works.

 

5 hours ago, Slagblah said:

I found a problem with Bimbo Hair Long. It seems to be missing the SexLabNoStrip Keyword.

 

Thanks for the heads up.

 

7 hours ago, MysticDaedra said:

That's how mods "claim" specific overlay slots in RaceMenu/slavetats.

 

Yeah, but concerningly I don't do anything like that. I just apply some tats every now and then using Slavetat's quick apply function. Is anyone else getting this issue? In LE or SE?

 

31 minutes ago, CornyRabbit696 said:

Loot reports deleted Navmeshes ?  can you fix those please ?

 

Does LOOT give any more information than that? As far as I'm aware I haven't touched any navmeshes.

 

[CornyRabbit696]

false alarm sorry, by chance i had installed 2 mods with exactly same esp name and the other was overwriting yours. 

 

I did find though, when going to redorans retreat for the whiterun quest, the boss chest in there contained a slutmind ring and a note, and a quest started to do with breaking erina's curse - i assume finding this caused the quest to start before it should, as i havent been to solitude or anywhere except whiterun yet. 

Edited January 16, 2023 by CornyRabbit696

[MysticDaedra]

2 hours ago, jib_buttkiss said:

 

 

Yeah, but concerningly I don't do anything like that. I just apply some tats every now and then using Slavetat's quick apply function. Is anyone else getting this issue? In LE or SE?

 

 

It's probably YPS doing it. If not, then it's some other unrelated mod that they have installed.

[BlueTouchPaper]

Question; I'm running SE and tried to steamroll through by first doing Anaita quest then 7 rounds of sleep/read/repeat - I get the notification that the curse is now permanent but nothing else seems to have change (dialogue options at least) - is that something that should kick in straight away? (brand new character + LAL to start in Whiterun's Inn)

Edited January 16, 2023 by BlueTouchPaper

[Hochhalter1]

3 hours ago, BlueTouchPaper said:

Question; I'm running SE and tried to steamroll through by first doing Anaita quest then 7 rounds of sleep/read/repeat - I get the notification that the curse is now permanent but nothing else seems to have change (dialogue options at least) - is that something that should kick in straight away? (brand new character + LAL to start in Whiterun's Inn)

if you are doing the waiting game you have to wait 1 hour at a time, and it's like 26-27 hrs. when i did it that way i always got the new message like 2 hours later then the last. Could be from the time it takes to deal with each stage to however. if you just want to advance to end use setstage, but do each stage or you miss stuff, and not all the numbers are in 10's

read up top and it's talked about.

[Saviorsrd]

Just about to go to bed, but I'll share what I'm gonna try to do with this mod.

 

A certain fresh young warrior has become aware that someone or several someones are going around making mind-broken sluts out of innocent women.  She knows she may not be able to stop it, but she can at least help them!  Little does she know, she's more susceptible to these corruptive magics than usual herself....

 

1)  Using some modifications to the sl_triggers files above, my PC can gain Bimbo Corruption on willing sex acts.  (She also doesn't always gain them when raped, only if she orgasms during rape, accomplished with a negative event.)

 

1a)  In addition, the magic prevents her from not taking any (sex) dialogue option offered.

 

2)  After every willing sex act, there is a small chance of increased corruption and a compulsion being triggered to...go have more sex.

 

3)  Orgasm during non-vanilla acts carries higher risk of corruption.

 

The goal - finish every Bimbo quest before the full curse runs its' course.

Edited January 17, 2023 by Saviorsrd

[MysticDaedra]

1 hour ago, Saviorsrd said:

Just about to go to bed, but I'll share what I'm gonna try to do with this mod.

 

A certain fresh young warrior has become aware that someone or several someones are going around making mind-broken sluts out of innocent women.  She knows she may not be able to stop it, but she can at least help them!  Little does she know, she's more susceptible to these corruptive magics than usual herself....

 

1)  Using some modifications to the sl_triggers files above, my PC can gain Bimbo Corruption on willing sex acts.  (She also doesn't always gain them when raped, only if she orgasms during rape, accomplished with a negative event.)

 

1a)  In addition, the magic prevents her from not taking any (sex) dialogue option offered.

 

2)  After every willing sex act, there is a small chance of increased corruption and a compulsion being triggered to...go have more sex.

 

3)  Orgasm during non-vanilla acts carries higher risk of corruption.

 

The goal - finish every Bimbo quest before the full curse runs its' course.

Could you share your sl triggers file(s)?