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1 hour ago, jib_buttkiss said:

I don't think anything's changed in Lyvelia's quest to hide the effect, so that's odd. But anyway, the effect isn't technically required for the quest's progression (it just gets applied at certain points) so you should still be fine to finish the quest.

 

I've downloaded the SE patch (good new first, my heels are finally working properly, yippe!)
Annnnd to my surprise, the bimbo corruption meter effect also disappeared. It's still at 71% according to McM so that's still working I think... but the effect is gone.

As far as I'm concerned, it doesn't affect my character. People still give me the "Hi there" comments. I still get arousal increases once per day. I get the corner messages from being Slutmarked. And the stat decrease for magicka agrees that everything is still the same... 
However, I've been conditioned by skyrim mods to worry about little bits missing >_>

But hey, at least the heels are finally not triangles, so pog

Posted
1 hour ago, Nefarian69 said:

 

Yes i use it and yes, otherchanges work, except piercings 

Is YPS controlling piercings? If so, this is expected behavior. If not, no idea.

Posted (edited)

Erina works fine now. This was the first time that I failed a quest ^^

And the hair worked this time.

Edited by xyzxyz
Posted

Speaking of NPC bodymorphs, I have the No Static Bimbo Morphs addon activated but Tarria the Butcher doesn't seem to be in it because her boobs are huge.  (And her hair isn't blonde like the dialogue said it was supposed to be.)

Posted

Is the forced dialogue slider working during Livs quest? During this quest the dialogue shows up only every 24 hours. The slider is set to 2x minimun though.

Posted
1 hour ago, xyzxyz said:

My game CTDs when I use the preview of the bimbo player body. Maybe a problem with the LE?

If you are using Crash fixes then check its CrashFixPlugin.ini (data/SKSE/Plugins/CrashFixPlugin.ini) file for these settings:

UseOSAllocators=1

AlignHeapAllocate=1

Both need to be set to 1.

Posted
21 minutes ago, LoneViper said:

If you are using Crash fixes then check its CrashFixPlugin.ini (data/SKSE/Plugins/CrashFixPlugin.ini) file for these settings:

UseOSAllocators=1

AlignHeapAllocate=1

Both need to be set to 1.

The second one was missing. Thank you :)

Posted
12 hours ago, jib_buttkiss said:

Can you try disabling the Botox patch, see if that changes anything? If that does nothing, go to your Data folder, then \Textures\actors\character\FacegenData\Facetint . There will be a folder named "CustomComments.esp". Try removing it (keep a copy so you can put it back after!) and see what that does.

First I disabled Botox and the Botox patch, to this result. The same texture glitch appeared.

909199405_AinaTextureProblem_(NoBotox)-Copy.PNG.238aa0ad13e01f81ce7047f002c9d016.PNG

 

Then I tried renaming and moving CustomComments.esp (so that it wouldn't be in the mod but I could put it back later), and got this result:1756024071_AinaTextureProblem_(CustomCommentDeleted)-Copy.PNG.9cc6b42d7c98a05df92f12259842a16a.PNG

 

So I tried running with Botox and removed the same file from the Botox Patch and got this result:

274298732_AinaTextureProblem_(BotoxCustomCommentDeleted)-Copy-Copy.PNG.c33a98384d257db1570e563f80e5abfa.PNG

 

Bodymorphs still don't seem to work, but this cleared up the texture issue. 

Posted
7 hours ago, outcast said:

One more suggestion - add buffs for wearing or debuffs for not wearing bimbo clothes. Right now they serve only role play purpose but from gameplay point of view they don't make any sense.

 

It'd be nice, but it's a nuisance to determine what is or isn't a bimbo outfit. You either muck around with keywords that need to be distributed (remember, KID is SE only) or end up missing things in annoying ways.

 

6 hours ago, Naps-On-Dirt said:

I accidentally found the Circlet for Erina before even meeting her, so I missed the first part of the quest.  Someone has already mentioned that though, so I'll look forward to trying it again next runthrough.  However, upon finishing the quest there is a slight problem.  

 

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I'm guessing that Erina had some bodymorphs from the jewelry or something, that were reversed at quests end?  You should put in a check so that if a person is using the No Static Bimbo Morphs addon then no changes are "fixed". 

That's exactly what's happened, in an earlier quest step her boobs get bigger, and by finding the circlet early you skipped that. So for the good ending, where you cure her and her boobs shrink back down, this has happened.

 

I'll make it so that the Slutmind items (and the hypno quest's ruby, even though that's not such an issue) don't spawn until their relevant quest steps, but the change won't affect save files where they've already been placed in the world. In that case, you'll unfortunately still have to remember not to pick them up.

 

4 hours ago, Naps-On-Dirt said:

Speaking of NPC bodymorphs, I have the No Static Bimbo Morphs addon activated but Tarria the Butcher doesn't seem to be in it because her boobs are huge.  (And her hair isn't blonde like the dialogue said it was supposed to be.)

Did you add the patch after starting the savefile? The bodygen stuff seems to be a bit temperamental with things like that.

 

What colour is her hair, by the way?

 

3 hours ago, xyzxyz said:

Is the forced dialogue slider working during Livs quest? During this quest the dialogue shows up only every 24 hours. The slider is set to 2x minimun though.

 

That slider only affects the dialog from the bimbo curse, which is completely isolated from Lyv's quest. At some point I'll go back and make all those bits of Lyvelia's quest use the bimbo curse parameters, just for sanity's sake.

 

1 hour ago, BenedictFriar said:

First I disabled Botox and the Botox patch, to this result. The same texture glitch appeared.

909199405_AinaTextureProblem_(NoBotox)-Copy.PNG.238aa0ad13e01f81ce7047f002c9d016.PNG

 

Then I tried renaming and moving CustomComments.esp (so that it wouldn't be in the mod but I could put it back later), and got this result:1756024071_AinaTextureProblem_(CustomCommentDeleted)-Copy.PNG.9cc6b42d7c98a05df92f12259842a16a.PNG

 

So I tried running with Botox and removed the same file from the Botox Patch and got this result:

274298732_AinaTextureProblem_(BotoxCustomCommentDeleted)-Copy-Copy.PNG.c33a98384d257db1570e563f80e5abfa.PNG

 

Bodymorphs still don't seem to work, but this cleared up the texture issue. 

 

Can you try putting this 000036CE.dds file in that CustomComments.esp facetint folder and checking Anaita again?

Posted
46 minutes ago, jib_buttkiss said:

Did you add the patch after starting the savefile? The bodygen stuff seems to be a bit temperamental with things like that.

 

What colour is her hair, by the way?

I'm not actually sure.  Its possible though, I usually keep a savegame in the Alternate Start starting room and begin new games from that for a bit until I need a new savegame because of updates to mods... I'm lazy and the process of setting up all the mods takes like an hour so I do it as infrequently as possible.

 

She has a default hairdo and default color, brownish I think.

Posted (edited)
24 minutes ago, Ricardo-Evans said:

It seems you include ski_playerloadgamealias.pex from SkyUI, which will throw a warning when looting load orders.

Is that intentional?

 

No, I don't know how that got there. You can probably delete it safely. I'll make sure it's gone in the next version.

Edited by jib_buttkiss
Posted
4 hours ago, jib_buttkiss said:

It'd be nice, but it's a nuisance to determine what is or isn't a bimbo outfit. You either muck around with keywords that need to be distributed (remember, KID is SE only) or end up missing things in annoying ways. 

Would it be easy enough to check the armor value of an item and apply buff/debuff based on that?

Posted
14 minutes ago, SpartanI0I said:

Would it be easy enough to check the armor value of an item and apply buff/debuff based on that?

 

That'd be the simplest solution- just debuff you if you wear armor instead of clothes, but there's some pretty non-slutty clothes out there. I'm thinking I'm satisfied with the armor skill debuff a bimbo gets, but maybe I'll add something more.

Posted (edited)
10 minutes ago, jib_buttkiss said:

 

That'd be the simplest solution- just debuff you if you wear armor instead of clothes, but there's some pretty non-slutty clothes out there. I'm thinking I'm satisfied with the armor skill debuff a bimbo gets, but maybe I'll add something more.

 

What about SLA with the new keywords?

 

Even just checking for the EroticArmor keyword should do a lot.

Edited by brewmasterhal
Posted

Love this mod, new essential mod! I've been wanting something like this for years, and this scratches that itch excellently. Some suggestions for content given you listed a desire to add more corruption methods, if you're looking for any - I don't need credit if you use any of them, I'm just interested in seeing this mod further:

Given the nature of Lyvelia's character and that Dareel suggests not fixing her, you could do a follow up quest/interaction where she flashes the player with the Canister if she was not cured; perhaps due to the player's rudeness or to cover up what she did as to not get in trouble. Or just to use the player as a test subject in a follow up experiment. This could also just be what she does as a bimbo because she doesn't know any better, as Tarria does it to herself intentionally. Food for thought. Perhaps Dareel could also alternatively; ACTUALLY not cure the player proper, if they show themselves to be as untrustworthy as Lyvelia. Having little follow up consequences could be a great feature for a devious mod such as this.

I'm not sure if it's possible to add in a way that won't risk the base game having conflictions, but Sanguine's quest could also give corruption at its beginning or end; or perhaps during the section in the Temple of Dibella.

I think the mechanic to reduce corruption is great - a high price for guaranteed reduction, or the low price option with a risk of failure. Adding some more options around this balance could be great. Things such as the Thieves Guild fences (and perhaps Enthir) being able to get ahold of black market cures that run a risk of failure, Jewelers or Court Mages claiming to have something that can help for a price; but it's really like the gear locked onto Erina.

 

Some quick easy ways to gain corruption could be maybe a Court Mage reciting a spell that has adverse effects on the mind as a rare random dialogue option, the player drinking heavily, perhaps a traveling Priestess of Dibella offers you her blessing on the road, cursed items that break when you find them. Maybe if a Married NPC catches you speaking to her spouse she can do something to do you out of jealousy or the husband can out of lust, playing into the implication of Roni's dialogue. Maybe Stormcloak/Imperial recruiters try to get you to join and if you turn them down they do something to add corruption; or perhaps Beggars wishing bad luck upon a player who ignores their pleas.

Lyvelia's quest is great, but it pushes one who wants that kind of content to join the College even if they don't play a mage. It'd be nice to having other faction equivalents. For the Companions, perhaps a younger warrior who is seeking to prove themselves by studying the Falmer and wiping them out; to finish what Ysgramor started. This would lead the player down some path that would tap into a curse from the Snow Elves that was left to cripple Ysgramor's army or something along those lines, and result into the player needing to seek out a cure within either a Falmer dungeon or Dwemmer Ruins; the last place the Falmer would have been studied at all. You could maybe even tie in the crystals from Lyvelia's quest as part of it to give them background if you want.

For the Thieves Guild; there's a ton of options. The easiest one would obviously be a thief asking you to steal from the Black-Briars, obviously a big no-no. If you agree and go do it, it turns out that the Guild had been suspicious of their actions for a while; and set up the item as a ploy to catch them. Perhaps its a book similar to the one used in the follower Bimbofication; and they read it out of confusion - while the player would have read it picking it up. Alternatively maybe its some enchanted lockpick or key that supposedly "unlocks one's true potential" according to its lore; but it's actually a cursed object, like a reverse version of the Skeleton Key. The player would then be forced into a few heists to pay for what they did; the consequence of failing any of them being further corruption - and while it seems like a regular job, the heist is actually an excuse to stall out while the Thief's time runs short before the effects are permanent. In the end the player is betrayed by whomever they are doing work for to make up for it and left as they are; and would have to steal back the "cure", fixing themselves and the Thief if they desire.

The Dark Brotherhood is a hard one, but doable. Make the "main character" of this one a member of the Penitus Occulotus in Dragon Bridge so they can be encountered regardless of choosing to kill or join the Brotherhood. When approached, they claim to be hunting the Dark Brotherhood themselves; and believe to have discovered their location. Send the Player somewhere either to the Pale or Falkreath hold where Dark Brotherhood activity had occurred, where you can meet up with a Brotherhood member on the job. When the Player arrives; the Member will already be partially Bimbofied, apparently ill with something. Coming into contact with them begins to infect the player with it, and returning to the Penitus Agent will infect them as well. Apparently, this is a semi-known condition kept under wraps by the Empire; maybe something they developed to use against the Thalmor but were trying to keep secret that got out, and the Agent was just trying to have someone deal with it under wraps. Now that the Agent has been infected as well, they panic and instruct the player what to gather to cure it. One of these ingredients will however not be there, and instead lead to a Thalmor Justicar waiting for you. The Justicar will claim to have been spying on you, and know what you were up to. They say they will give you the final ingredient if you sabotage the cure when you give it to the Agent, which you can either agree to or disagree. If you agree, the Agent is left Bimbofied and the Justicar does not hold to their bargain; possibly having their way with you after and leaving you as is. If you disagree, the Justicar will then scoff as they teleport you away; still leaving you to your fate. Regardless; your final task is to assassinate the Thalmor, wherever it is they went, and obtain the finished cure; which the Thalmor had made to return to the Embassy. If you sabotaged the Agent's cure, they cannot be fixed; and your cure is less effective, giving you a high corruption boost. If you did not sabotage it, you can cure them at the end as well as yourself.

 

Some less detailed quest ideas would be a Thalmor Agent trying to keep the Dragonborn weak so they couldn't threaten them, a Blades Agent going to extreme lengths to hide themselves, a Vigilant of Stendarr accidently getting themself cursed while trying to punish a Sanguine or Mephala worshipper, a Gray Quarter Dunmer cursing a Nord who had treated them poorly, The Captain of the Guard in Windhelm slowly being transformed by her underlings (the game has no Captain of the Guard for Windhelm so this is doable) for being a suspected traitor or just because, and a Bard at the Bard's College claiming to have discovered/created a song so touching it can affect the minds of those who hear it.

 

Hope any of this is useful to you, might post more in the future if it is.

Posted
8 hours ago, jib_buttkiss said:

 

It'd be nice, but it's a nuisance to determine what is or isn't a bimbo outfit. You either muck around with keywords that need to be distributed (remember, KID is SE only) or end up missing things in annoying ways.

 

My 2 cents; if you accept 'working clothes' and 'erotic armor' as being slutty,  you're done. Most people will have a mod like radiant prostitution or other that allows for adding the working clothes keyword to clothes. Adding clothes, like the red riding hood thing mentioned earlier, would be the icing on the cake. You can't please everybody, but with these mechanisms you will please a very large percentage.

Posted
2 hours ago, pg13onleh said:

Love this mod, new essential mod! I've been wanting something like this for years, and this scratches that itch excellently. Some suggestions for content given you listed a desire to add more corruption methods, if you're looking for any - I don't need credit if you use any of them, I'm just interested in seeing this mod further:

Given the nature of Lyvelia's character and that Dareel suggests not fixing her, you could do a follow up quest/interaction where she flashes the player with the Canister if she was not cured; perhaps due to the player's rudeness or to cover up what she did as to not get in trouble. Or just to use the player as a test subject in a follow up experiment. This could also just be what she does as a bimbo because she doesn't know any better, as Tarria does it to herself intentionally. Food for thought. Perhaps Dareel could also alternatively; ACTUALLY not cure the player proper, if they show themselves to be as untrustworthy as Lyvelia. Having little follow up consequences could be a great feature for a devious mod such as this.

I'm not sure if it's possible to add in a way that won't risk the base game having conflictions, but Sanguine's quest could also give corruption at its beginning or end; or perhaps during the section in the Temple of Dibella.

I think the mechanic to reduce corruption is great - a high price for guaranteed reduction, or the low price option with a risk of failure. Adding some more options around this balance could be great. Things such as the Thieves Guild fences (and perhaps Enthir) being able to get ahold of black market cures that run a risk of failure, Jewelers or Court Mages claiming to have something that can help for a price; but it's really like the gear locked onto Erina.

 

Some quick easy ways to gain corruption could be maybe a Court Mage reciting a spell that has adverse effects on the mind as a rare random dialogue option, the player drinking heavily, perhaps a traveling Priestess of Dibella offers you her blessing on the road, cursed items that break when you find them. Maybe if a Married NPC catches you speaking to her spouse she can do something to do you out of jealousy or the husband can out of lust, playing into the implication of Roni's dialogue. Maybe Stormcloak/Imperial recruiters try to get you to join and if you turn them down they do something to add corruption; or perhaps Beggars wishing bad luck upon a player who ignores their pleas.

Lyvelia's quest is great, but it pushes one who wants that kind of content to join the College even if they don't play a mage. It'd be nice to having other faction equivalents. For the Companions, perhaps a younger warrior who is seeking to prove themselves by studying the Falmer and wiping them out; to finish what Ysgramor started. This would lead the player down some path that would tap into a curse from the Snow Elves that was left to cripple Ysgramor's army or something along those lines, and result into the player needing to seek out a cure within either a Falmer dungeon or Dwemmer Ruins; the last place the Falmer would have been studied at all. You could maybe even tie in the crystals from Lyvelia's quest as part of it to give them background if you want.

For the Thieves Guild; there's a ton of options. The easiest one would obviously be a thief asking you to steal from the Black-Briars, obviously a big no-no. If you agree and go do it, it turns out that the Guild had been suspicious of their actions for a while; and set up the item as a ploy to catch them. Perhaps its a book similar to the one used in the follower Bimbofication; and they read it out of confusion - while the player would have read it picking it up. Alternatively maybe its some enchanted lockpick or key that supposedly "unlocks one's true potential" according to its lore; but it's actually a cursed object, like a reverse version of the Skeleton Key. The player would then be forced into a few heists to pay for what they did; the consequence of failing any of them being further corruption - and while it seems like a regular job, the heist is actually an excuse to stall out while the Thief's time runs short before the effects are permanent. In the end the player is betrayed by whomever they are doing work for to make up for it and left as they are; and would have to steal back the "cure", fixing themselves and the Thief if they desire.

The Dark Brotherhood is a hard one, but doable. Make the "main character" of this one a member of the Penitus Occulotus in Dragon Bridge so they can be encountered regardless of choosing to kill or join the Brotherhood. When approached, they claim to be hunting the Dark Brotherhood themselves; and believe to have discovered their location. Send the Player somewhere either to the Pale or Falkreath hold where Dark Brotherhood activity had occurred, where you can meet up with a Brotherhood member on the job. When the Player arrives; the Member will already be partially Bimbofied, apparently ill with something. Coming into contact with them begins to infect the player with it, and returning to the Penitus Agent will infect them as well. Apparently, this is a semi-known condition kept under wraps by the Empire; maybe something they developed to use against the Thalmor but were trying to keep secret that got out, and the Agent was just trying to have someone deal with it under wraps. Now that the Agent has been infected as well, they panic and instruct the player what to gather to cure it. One of these ingredients will however not be there, and instead lead to a Thalmor Justicar waiting for you. The Justicar will claim to have been spying on you, and know what you were up to. They say they will give you the final ingredient if you sabotage the cure when you give it to the Agent, which you can either agree to or disagree. If you agree, the Agent is left Bimbofied and the Justicar does not hold to their bargain; possibly having their way with you after and leaving you as is. If you disagree, the Justicar will then scoff as they teleport you away; still leaving you to your fate. Regardless; your final task is to assassinate the Thalmor, wherever it is they went, and obtain the finished cure; which the Thalmor had made to return to the Embassy. If you sabotaged the Agent's cure, they cannot be fixed; and your cure is less effective, giving you a high corruption boost. If you did not sabotage it, you can cure them at the end as well as yourself.

 

Some less detailed quest ideas would be a Thalmor Agent trying to keep the Dragonborn weak so they couldn't threaten them, a Blades Agent going to extreme lengths to hide themselves, a Vigilant of Stendarr accidently getting themself cursed while trying to punish a Sanguine or Mephala worshipper, a Gray Quarter Dunmer cursing a Nord who had treated them poorly, The Captain of the Guard in Windhelm slowly being transformed by her underlings (the game has no Captain of the Guard for Windhelm so this is doable) for being a suspected traitor or just because, and a Bard at the Bard's College claiming to have discovered/created a song so touching it can affect the minds of those who hear it.

 

Hope any of this is useful to you, might post more in the future if it is.

 

There's some fun ideas in here! I didn't know that about Windhelm's guard captain (or rather, lack of one). Wouldn't it be interesting a strong, heroic, female captain did exist? I'm sure no bimbo-themed misfortune would befall her...

 

But yeah, I did want to eventually have a quest for each faction, and there's some good concepts in here for those. Don't be surprised if eventually (eventually!) something loosely resembling some of these makes it into the mod.

 

27 minutes ago, Wut1969 said:

 

My 2 cents; if you accept 'working clothes' and 'erotic armor' as being slutty,  you're done. Most people will have a mod like radiant prostitution or other that allows for adding the working clothes keyword to clothes. Adding clothes, like the red riding hood thing mentioned earlier, would be the icing on the cake. You can't please everybody, but with these mechanisms you will please a very large percentage.

 

Fair enough. I haven't messed with this kind of thing myself, would the EroticArmor SLA keyword be sufficient to test for? What other common "slutty clothes" keywords are there? It'd be a fairly simple check: onObjectEquipped, does it have one of these keywords? If not, apply debuff. Of course, there'll be a toggle in the MCM for anyone who doesn't have these keywords distributed.

 

Posted (edited)
11 hours ago, jib_buttkiss said:

 

It'd be nice, but it's a nuisance to determine what is or isn't a bimbo outfit. You either muck around with keywords that need to be distributed (remember, KID is SE only) or end up missing things in annoying ways.

You can let the user determine it. I believe some mods let you flag armor sets (like SoS with revealing armor IIRC) manually in-game (important to note becaues it's easy to do compared to messing with files) regardless of their traits. Will be a pain to setup, but modding is all about that hell.

Edited by Obryanov
Posted (edited)
7 hours ago, jib_buttkiss said:

 

There's some fun ideas in here! I didn't know that about Windhelm's guard captain (or rather, lack of one). Wouldn't it be interesting a strong, heroic, female captain did exist? I'm sure no bimbo-themed misfortune would befall her...

 

But yeah, I did want to eventually have a quest for each faction, and there's some good concepts in here for those. Don't be surprised if eventually (eventually!) something loosely resembling some of these makes it into the mod.

 

 

Fair enough. I haven't messed with this kind of thing myself, would the EroticArmor SLA keyword be sufficient to test for? What other common "slutty clothes" keywords are there? It'd be a fairly simple check: onObjectEquipped, does it have one of these keywords? If not, apply debuff. Of course, there'll be a toggle in the MCM for anyone who doesn't have these keywords distributed.

 

I googled that for you; https://www.loverslab.com/applications/core/interface/file/attachment.php?id=1169391

Just kidding. ;)

Well, actually I did google it for you, but you know, it's the least I could do.

 

Others I found;

 

SLAroused.IsNakedArmor and EroticArmor [KYWD:0308C7F6]" from SexLabAroused.esm

 

mf_Prostitute_WorkingClothes

 

And here is a list from T*WOBA;

And even more bikinis;

 

You could also take a shortcut and use the resulting variable from Aroused; IsActorNakedExtended

 

 

Edited by Wut1969
Posted

Well into playing this mod now and have to say the dialogue is spot on.. Great work on getting it to feel just right... I did laugh so hard at "six day" comments..  Awesome!   I hope this mod grows and grows  as ideas come to mind for expanding it..  It is now a must use mod on my ever growing must use mod list ..  

Posted

When I just looked at this thread, while not being logged on, it looked like LL had changed all the specific URLs I posted above to the links of the file. After logging on, I see the specific links again, so currently I have no idea if my previous post was helpful or just annoying.

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