Bimbos Of Skyrim LE/SE

[Wut1969]

2 hours ago, Talesien said:

I just found out, the hypnotic letters can kill you. Simply combine a collar that damages your health if not naked with a dress you can not remove ...
Perhaps adding some Zaz or DD keyword might help, or perhaps sexlabnostrip, IIRC at least the DCL collars check for that, not sure about others.

You can remove the BoS dress, it will just hurt your fighting skills a bit.

 

My PC never wore the dress as a couple of other mods already ruined her fighting skills and instead she sold it to get a dose of skooma.

Which is what a junkie would do.

 

If your PC decides to prioritize her fighting skills over her health, that's something you need to discuss with her. 😉

 

What I mean is that we control our modlists and that part of the fun is to try to roleplay somewhat believable behavior into it.

 

Maybe your PC needs to aquire more potions, or be better at restoration. Or maybe she needs to accept she just can't win.

[jib_buttkiss]

On 12/3/2024 at 3:39 PM, jaded132 said:

So I looked into this a bit more. Figured out I was looking at the wrong quest stage, I am actually unable to get the 4th quest to trigger. I did the sqv CC_childishgames_4 and found all the alias' are empty for me. Looking at childishgames_3, it does say its still running, at stage 70. I did set stage 80 and 90. 80 gave me the spell tomb, but i had already received that in game when I completed the quest.
Trying to setstage on childishgames_4 does nothing, doesn't set the stage or anything. Not sure if I would be able to manually set all of the alias' myself to fix it or not.

 

Ah right. Well, don't set stage 80 or 90 on CG3, those are the "bad end" stages. It should be at 70. For 4, try doing startquest before you setstage it. Try either 0 or 10.

 

But- if you've set CG3 to 80 or 90, it will have shut down the rest of Childish Games (and there's no command that will easily set it up again). If you've done that, that's probably why 4 won't start, so reload a save before that and then give it a go.

 

21 hours ago, Lordnes said:

Heyo, thanks for replying.

 

Its when i get the Letter the First time.

 

Which letter is it?

 

13 hours ago, Wut1969 said:

Some thing that happened in my game today is that the Thieves Guild asked me to relieve Belethor from a golden ring or something.

My PC failed to pick his pocket, Belethor got a little bit upset and tried to attack my PC. Morella entered the shop, killed Belethor and saved the day.

Sadly the ring disappeared so my PC had to report a failure to Delvin.

 

Weirdly enough I haven't even finished Chilish Games yet so I didn't expect Morella to act this feisty.

 

 

Oh, yeah. Since you can't change an NPC's aggression ingame (easily), she's set to combative so that she'll fight once she's a follower. If you've completed even Childish Games part 1 she'll be your Friend, and that's why she came to defend you. If there's one thing Skyrim's good at, it's generating these interesting little story moments, that's for sure.

 

3 hours ago, Talesien said:

I just found out, the hypnotic letters can kill you. Simply combine a collar that damages your health if not naked with a dress you can not remove ...
Perhaps adding some Zaz or DD keyword might help, or perhaps sexlabnostrip, IIRC at least the DCL collars check for that, not sure about others.

 

Ah yeah Cursed Loot will do that to you, won't it. It's a really annoying problem to fix, since I can't add the noStrip keyword to the dress since it's just a normal bimbo dress- on re-reads, the note actually searches your inventory for one of a bunch of outfits to force-equip.

 

Did I add a debug "escape current hypno mission" button in the MCM in the last version? If not I'll add it next time. That might be the simplest solution here.

 

41 minutes ago, Wut1969 said:

You can remove the BoS dress, it will just hurt your fighting skills a bit.

 

My PC never wore the dress as a couple of other mods already ruined her fighting skills and instead she sold it to get a dose of skooma.

Which is what a junkie would do.

 

If your PC decides to prioritize her fighting skills over her health, that's something you need to discuss with her. 😉

 

What I mean is that we control our modlists and that part of the fun is to try to roleplay somewhat believable behavior into it.

 

Maybe your PC needs to aquire more potions, or be better at restoration. Or maybe she needs to accept she just can't win.

 

Nah this is the hypnosis note's dress, which is locked onto you for a day. It's an issue that DCL runs across with any mod that can lock you into an outfit. And since I suggest using DCL, I really should offer some sort of solution to any hard incompatibilities like that.

[Wut1969]

1 hour ago, jib_buttkiss said:

 

Ah right. Well, don't set stage 80 or 90 on CG3, those are the "bad end" stages. It should be at 70. For 4, try doing startquest before you setstage it. Try either 0 or 10.

 

But- if you've set CG3 to 80 or 90, it will have shut down the rest of Childish Games (and there's no command that will easily set it up again). If you've done that, that's probably why 4 won't start, so reload a save before that and then give it a go.

 

 

Which letter is it?

 

Oh, yeah. Since you can't change an NPC's aggression ingame (easily), she's set to combative so that she'll fight once she's a follower. If you've completed even Childish Games part 1 she'll be your Friend, and that's why she came to defend you. If there's one thing Skyrim's good at, it's generating these interesting little

 

Nah this is the hypnosis note's dress, which is locked onto you for a day. It's an issue that DCL runs across with any mod that can lock you into an outfit. And since I suggest using DCL, I really should offer some sort of solution to any hard incompatibilities like that.

I'm not sure we're discussing different things;

 

My PC got this dress from the hypno quest and the text read something like she couldn't wear armour for a day. And after a period of time there was a message she could wear armour again.

She was perfectly able to undress and/or wear other clothes in between.

I can't be sure if she has tried armour during the period because when this letter arrived she didn't have any.

 

As my PC has lots of issues (skooma and cum addiction, love sickness kicking in regularly and she is overweight too) I don't check active debuffs anymore. She just sucks (at) everything.

[Talesien]

5 hours ago, Wut1969 said:

You can remove the BoS dress, it will just hurt your fighting skills a bit.

 

My PC never wore the dress as a couple of other mods already ruined her fighting skills and instead she sold it to get a dose of skooma.

Which is what a junkie would do.

 

If your PC decides to prioritize her fighting skills over her health, that's something you need to discuss with her. 😉

 

What I mean is that we control our modlists and that part of the fun is to try to roleplay somewhat believable behavior into it.

 

Maybe your PC needs to aquire more potions, or be better at restoration. Or maybe she needs to accept she just can't win.

Not my experience, I could not remove it, perhaps that changed? Or you have some mod that allows it (coming to think of it I could probably have used the SkyUI function to that end). SL removed it for scenes, but also put it on again ... a timely rape might have helped (since it doesn't redress victims). That aside I could possibly have removed it via console, but my inventory was pretty full, finding the dress ...
I went with TGM to buy time and changing the collar.

 

 

3 hours ago, jib_buttkiss said:

Ah yeah Cursed Loot will do that to you, won't it. It's a really annoying problem to fix, since I can't add the noStrip keyword to the dress since it's just a normal bimbo dress- on re-reads, the note actually searches your inventory for one of a bunch of outfits to force-equip.

 

Did I add a debug "escape current hypno mission" button in the MCM in the last version? If not I'll add it next time. That might be the simplest solution here.

In my case, it wasn't DCL, but Adventures with Balazar. I guess Pet Collar might also do it, but there you could change it in the MCM at least. Timing was bad but with TGM I managed to have the collar changed (you've the choice between three variants, at least after a certain point, being naked in towns and cities is just the least annoying in most cases).

Honestly, I don't know about an escape option in the MCM, didn't occur to me to look, but the change log says nothing towards that end.

[Wut1969]

59 minutes ago, Talesien said:

Not my experience, I could not remove it, perhaps that changed? Or you have some mod that allows it (coming to think of it I could probably have used the SkyUI function to that end). SL removed it for scenes, but also put it on again ... a timely rape might have helped (since it doesn't redress victims). That aside I could possibly have removed it via console, but my inventory was pretty full, finding the dress ...
I went with TGM to buy time and changing the collar.

 

 

In my case, it wasn't DCL, but Adventures with Balazar. I guess Pet Collar might also do it, but there you could change it in the MCM at least. Timing was bad but with TGM I managed to have the collar changed (you've the choice between three variants, at least after a certain point, being naked in towns and cities is just the least annoying in most cases).

Honestly, I don't know about an escape option in the MCM, didn't occur to me to look, but the change log says nothing towards that end.

Ah, yes. I use SkyUI a lot to switch between gear.

So that would explain why my PC could remove the dress so easily.

@jib_buttkiss;your locking mechanism may not be fool proof. Or at least, not for a fool with my level of experience. 🥳

[Talesien]

4 hours ago, Wut1969 said:

Ah, yes. I use SkyUI a lot to switch between gear.

So that would explain why my PC could remove the dress so easily.

@jib_buttkiss;your locking mechanism may not be fool proof. Or at least, not for a fool with my level of experience. 🥳

I'm not sure if there is a way to prevent that SkyUI function from removing stuff. It also removes Devious Devices (and until the most recent version broke them doing so). It's very old and while very robust (one might argue too much so) not very save in regard to things it should not remove.

[Wut1969]

2 minutes ago, Talesien said:

I'm not sure if there is a way to prevent that SkyUI function from removing stuff. It also removes Devious Devices (and until the most recent version broke them doing so). It's very old and while very robust (one might argue too much so) not very save in regard to things it should not remove.

Yeah, I know.

But I use BYOG which has a feature where wearing armour means you get worse deals with merchants, so it gives me a reason to change outfits and also I use Sexlab Adventures that makes changing clothes a rapeable event. So changing outfits needs to be done out of sight.

If I need to manually change clothes every time, I can't be bothered anymore, so Sky UI stays.

 

Also, I try actively to avoid that my PC ends up with Devious Devices, so it rarely happens that she has to wear them.

[Talesien]

1 hour ago, Wut1969 said:

Yeah, I know.

But I use BYOG which has a feature where wearing armour means you get worse deals with merchants, so it gives me a reason to change outfits and also I use Sexlab Adventures that makes changing clothes a rapeable event. So changing outfits needs to be done out of sight.

If I need to manually change clothes every time, I can't be bothered anymore, so Sky UI stays.

 

Also, I try actively to avoid that my PC ends up with Devious Devices, so it rarely happens that she has to wear them.

I know the problem, I've tried several outfit managers back in the day, but none of them is DD aware or can be customized to react to certain keywords.

Although honestly I think BYOG got that the wrong way around. Whom are you more likely to try and pull a fast one on, price wise? The overdressed cloth wearing noble women who maybe sports a jeweled dagger that she likely has no idea on how to use? Or the grizzled merc gal in a well-worn armor with a big ass sword that also looks like it has seen plenty of use? Worse people say that she is the Dragonborn and if so could likely shout you straight through your back wall.
I know who I would give a fair price ... if not, I would expect it to go something like this: "Lemme set this straight little men. You think just because I haul this armor and weapon around that I've been hit on the head too many times to realize when someone tried to take advantage of me? Allow me to inform you, I find that rather insulting, and I've challenged people to a duel for less. Now, perhaps we can discuss the discount scheme you undoubtedly have in place for defenders of your nice city here, aye?"

Edited December 4, 2024 by Talesien

[Rangerguy]

Dose anyone have an alt clothing pack for the bimbo clothing? I know the no outfits patch can help a little with that but I still want to see them change outfits. The current clothes are just a little too bright for the setting, and the tavern cloths seem too tame.

[TiredGamer]

I think, need some fine-tuning for the hardcore mod. Bimbo forced dialog's cooldown: one hour is too short. After the forced dialog endid, started a sex scene, and the timer started again too. But the scenes are 30 min-more than one hour long. So, I can started  a quest dialog after two-three-four sex scenes...

Maybe the timer could start just after a sex scene ended?

Or maybe can you make an mcm menu for set the delay from one to three hours?

[DarksideTinkerbell]

Bimbo Demeaner, this awesome addition kicks in at about the 5th or 6th stage of Bimbofication. Pretty sure it looks for the stage of change not the corruption level. The animations are fun, rather hilarious and I find very well done, plus unique to a Bimbo, so nobody else is as fidgety or animated unless they too are a Bimbo. (I ensure Bimbofication on NPCs by having it off all the time, except when I fuck them and have decided they should be Bimbofied, which means I select 1 or 2 in a town or city to make a part of my Bimbo family).

 

Unlike you guys (well some of you) I don't really roleplay (not sure how?) Skyrim is my perverted sexual release, the pornographic stage to my own personal show, where I am the Star! Animation is a huge turn on for me so it works well. I gotta say though, some of the roleplay challenges you guys put yourselves through, fucking hell "Amazeballs, totally Awesome Sauce!!" I could never challenge myself like that, way to focused on simply wanting to get off on what my PC is doing. (So everything is easy, plus often fuckable, I remove or change anything I do not like or find a turn off, no offnce meant but that means everyone is attractive, though rarely as goodlooking as me, there is absolutely no kids, they become "young adults" beauty of mods.) I suppose my RP is a Psychopathic Sex maniac, my weapon of choice Succubus, I literally fuck everything to death, (sometimes bad when I forget to turn draining off in a town or city...) I tend to kill only really bad things, or things that say "no" to fucking me, oh and stuff that takes way to long to cum on a boring sex scene (if they don't die anyways).

Example of the Stealth Idle from Demeaner

Spoiler

 

Edited December 4, 2024 by DarksideTinkerbell

[Wut1969]

1 hour ago, Talesien said:

I know the problem, I've tried several outfit managers back in the day, but none of them is DD aware or can be customized to react to certain keywords.

Although honestly I think BYOG got that the wrong way around. Whom are you more likely to try and pull a fast one on, price wise? The overdressed cloth wearing noble women who maybe sports a jeweled dagger that she likely has no idea on how to use? Or the grizzled merc gal in a well-worn armor with a big ass sword that also looks like it has seen plenty of use? Worse people say that she is the Dragonborn and if so could likely shout you straight through your back wall.
I know who I would give a fair price ... if not, I would expect it to go something like this: "Lemme set this straight little men. You think just because I haul this armor and weapon around that I've been hit on the head too many times to realize when someone tried to take advantage of me? Allow me to inform you, I find that rather insulting, and I've challenged people to a duel for less. Now, perhaps we can discuss the discount scheme you undoubtedly have in place for defenders of your nice city here, aye?"

Maybe, but who do you want as a returning customer? The bespoke well dressed well to do traveller or the scurvy outlaw? Who would you chose to invest in?

 

You can easily defend either way and sometimes things work out in a way you wouldn't neccesarily expect.

 

I once read that Charlize Theron had trouble getting dates, and that's not because she's so ugly.

 

Anyhow, in -my- Skyrim wealthy looking people get better deals. 🤷

[Wut1969]

4 minutes ago, DarksideTinkerbell said:

Unlike you guys (well some of you) I don't really roleplay (not sure how?) Skyrim is my perverted sexual release...

 

 

Yeah, we, the role playing bunch on LL are not into sexuality at all. No sirree, we're saintier than most saints out there. 🙄

 

We're also boy scouts, all of us,  and in our free time we wait near busy streets to drag old people across the street, I mean.. to assist them ..

 

😂

[audhol]

1 hour ago, Wut1969 said:

Yeah, we, the role playing bunch on LL are not into sexuality at all. No sirree, we're saintier than most saints out there. 🙄

 

We're also boy scouts, all of us,  and in our free time we wait near busy streets to drag old people across the street, I mean.. to assist them ..

 

😂

 

 

 

 

Wut helping the old dude across the street.

 

[Wut1969]

10 minutes ago, audhol said:

 

 

 

 

Wut helping the old dude across the street.

 

I vaguely remember patting a bald head the other day.

[jib_buttkiss]

 

10 hours ago, Talesien said:

Not my experience, I could not remove it, perhaps that changed? Or you have some mod that allows it (coming to think of it I could probably have used the SkyUI function to that end). SL removed it for scenes, but also put it on again ... a timely rape might have helped (since it doesn't redress victims). That aside I could possibly have removed it via console, but my inventory was pretty full, finding the dress ...
I went with TGM to buy time and changing the collar.
 

In my case, it wasn't DCL, but Adventures with Balazar. I guess Pet Collar might also do it, but there you could change it in the MCM at least. Timing was bad but with TGM I managed to have the collar changed (you've the choice between three variants, at least after a certain point, being naked in towns and cities is just the least annoying in most cases).

Honestly, I don't know about an escape option in the MCM, didn't occur to me to look, but the change log says nothing towards that end.

 

Ah ok, good to hear my locking functions are working at least.

 

Oh yeah, I went and checked and I didn't add that. No idea why, since I did add it as a dialogue option if you free yourself from the hypnosis but ask for it to start again. I'll do it in 1.9.

 

9 hours ago, Wut1969 said:

Ah, yes. I use SkyUI a lot to switch between gear.

So that would explain why my PC could remove the dress so easily.

@jib_buttkiss;your locking mechanism may not be fool proof. Or at least, not for a fool with my level of experience. 🥳

 

Oh, yeah. I only use the locking system provided by the base game, it's good enough for 99% of cases. It's a flag you can set on player.equipItem that prevents the user from selecting the item for unequipping in your menus, but still allows scripts to remove it (because otherwise how would you ever get it off?). The only place in the base game I can think of that uses the functionality is the Cursed Ring of Hircine.

 

But yeah, any other mod that uses scripting to manipulate your inventory will bypass the locking like it's not there.

 

2 hours ago, TiredGamer said:

I think, need some fine-tuning for the hardcore mod. Bimbo forced dialog's cooldown: one hour is too short. After the forced dialog endid, started a sex scene, and the timer started again too. But the scenes are 30 min-more than one hour long. So, I can started  a quest dialog after two-three-four sex scenes...

Maybe the timer could start just after a sex scene ended?

Or maybe can you make an mcm menu for set the delay from one to three hours?

 

Sex scenes lasting for an hour? Hasn't your bimbo heard of a quickie? But yeah I'll unpeg the forced chats timer = 1 hour from hardcore mode.

[wareware]

[12/03/2024 - 01:01:27AM] Error: alias bimboVictim5 on quest cc_bimbofynpcv2 (C64DAFD4): Cannot force the alias's reference to a None reference.
stack:
	[alias bimboVictim5 on quest cc_bimbofynpcv2 (C64DAFD4)].ReferenceAlias.ForceRefTo() - "<native>" Line ?
	[alias bimboVictim5 on quest cc_bimbofynpcv2 (C64DAFD4)].ReferenceAlias.ForceRefIfEmpty() - "ReferenceAlias.psc" Line 30
	[cc_bimbofynpcv2 (C64DAFD4)].cc_bimbofynpcv2.OnUpdate() - "cc_bimbofynpcv2.psc" Line 73

 

This line keeps appearing in my papyrus log every minute and might be a source of my stuttering.  I disabled NPC bimbofication in the MCM thinking it would stop it but it didn't do anything. What does this quest do?

[Samwisemark]

So, when I download the latest version of the mod, there are several meshes missing, like all of the meshes for body and heels folder, as well as pretty much all other meshes.
If anyone has it working with all meshes, I would be glad to get a file of them. As I currently can't use the mods own accessories and would like to be able to use them.

[jib_buttkiss]

21 minutes ago, wareware said:

[12/03/2024 - 01:01:27AM] Error: alias bimboVictim5 on quest cc_bimbofynpcv2 (C64DAFD4): Cannot force the alias's reference to a None reference.
stack:
	[alias bimboVictim5 on quest cc_bimbofynpcv2 (C64DAFD4)].ReferenceAlias.ForceRefTo() - "<native>" Line ?
	[alias bimboVictim5 on quest cc_bimbofynpcv2 (C64DAFD4)].ReferenceAlias.ForceRefIfEmpty() - "ReferenceAlias.psc" Line 30
	[cc_bimbofynpcv2 (C64DAFD4)].cc_bimbofynpcv2.OnUpdate() - "cc_bimbofynpcv2.psc" Line 73

 

This line keeps appearing in my papyrus log every minute and might be a source of my stuttering.  I disabled NPC bimbofication in the MCM thinking it would stop it but it didn't do anything. What does this quest do?

 

This rang a bell and I had a dig back through the thread, and I found this from Okshi91 (who wrote this bit of code) back on page 188:

Quote

Yeah, the error is just because I am a silly and forgot to put a check in to skip the contents of the OnUpdate loop when nobody's being bimbofied. All it does is cause the error message to appear in the papyrus log every 30 seconds or so, and the error can be fixed by putting line 72 behind an if(bv5) statement or, if you want to optimise the code a bit, duplicating the check for any filled aliases from OnUpdateGameTime before running the contents of OnUpdate.

 

Apparently I never got around to implementing that fix he recommended.

 

13 minutes ago, Samwisemark said:

So, when I download the latest version of the mod, there are several meshes missing, like all of the meshes for body and heels folder, as well as pretty much all other meshes.
If anyone has it working with all meshes, I would be glad to get a file of them. As I currently can't use the mods own accessories and would like to be able to use them.

 

Have you built your meshes in Bodyslide?

 

I only include the bodyslide-recipe meshes to save file space, since for Bodyslide I only have to include 1 model per item instead of 3.

[jaded132]

19 hours ago, jib_buttkiss said:

Ah right. Well, don't set stage 80 or 90 on CG3, those are the "bad end" stages. It should be at 70. For 4, try doing startquest before you setstage it. Try either 0 or 10.

 

But- if you've set CG3 to 80 or 90, it will have shut down the rest of Childish Games (and there's no command that will easily set it up again). If you've done that, that's probably why 4 won't start, so reload a save before that and then give it a go.

I saved before I did anything with set stages and reloaded to before just in case. Startquest doesn't seem to be doing anything for me. Would it just be startquest cc_childishgames_04? Or am I missing something?

[Wut1969]

7 hours ago, jib_buttkiss said:

Oh, yeah. I only use the locking system provided by the base game, it's good enough for 99% of cases. It's a flag you can set on player.equipItem that prevents the user from selecting the item for unequipping in your menus, but still allows scripts to remove it (because otherwise how would you ever get it off?). The only place in the base game I can think of that uses the functionality is the Cursed Ring of Hircine.

 

That all makes perfect sense. And Sky UI wasn't made with this kind of usage in mind, so if you select the 'strip' option, it will just do that. Not using the 'strip' option sometimes has issues as well, and as I use TaWoBa, manually switching stuff is quite a chore.

 

So it seems I can't have my cake and eat it.

The good news is shat roleplaying wise my PC ignoring the hypno quest and selling the dress in order to buy skooma made perfect sense.

 

The problem I'm currently facing is that she's now so addicted to cum that the only conversation option is to beg for cum so she basically can't start a normal conversation with males anymore to finish quests. And because she's such skooma addict she's "too wired to sleep", and as I selected the sleep option in BoS, she isn't going to transform.

 

I knew life as a junkie would be hard, but, oh well.. this wasn't going to end well anyway. 😁

[Lordnes]

23 hours ago, jib_buttkiss said:

Which letter is it?

 

All of them i got so far, which is the Shoes and a Dress.

Maybe it help that even after running bodyslide some items still are not visible.

 

[DrSeptimus]

The "giggle..., hi" dialogue" not showing up when I am using BoS with YPS Immersive Fashion Full version, the lite version of YPS work fine with it.

 

Just want to notify you about it.

[Balgin]

1 hour ago, DrSeptimus said:

The "giggle..., hi" dialogue" not showing up when I am using BoS with YPS Immersive Fashion Full version, the lite version of YPS work fine with it.

 

Just want to notify you about it.

Set BOS to load after YPS in your load order and it should show up just fine.

[DrSeptimus]

48 minutes ago, Balgin said:

Set BOS to load after YPS in your load order and it should show up just fine.

 

The problem is that I cannot set it after YPS. I am using MO2 and I try to drag it to the highest priority and it somehow stuck at higher load order than YPS.