Bimbos Of Skyrim LE/SE

[jib_buttkiss]

Right then- here's 1.7.5.1:

 

Bimbos of Skyrim v1.7.5.1- New Morphs Beta.rar

 

This adds in Okshi91's major improvements to the morph system. So now, morphs are loaded from a .json file meaning that your settings are persistent across savefiles, and all that SE INV nonsense is gone. If you're just adjusting sliders like before, then that's all that will change for you.

 

However- by editing the .json, you can add new nodes to the morphs. Want bimbos to have a large NippleDown value? Add it in to the .json, and it'll appear in the MCM (thanks to a very clever dynamically generated MCM Okshi sorted out). There's no limit on the number of nodes that can be added.

 

This means that .jsons can be easily made for any body type (UNP, 3ba, anything!), making the morphs fully compatible with them! If you do make a .json for a different body, please post it here so I can provide it for download with 1.8!

 

The .json is divided into 2 sections, Upper Body and Lower Body. The bimbo curse will apply both sections to an actor, and certain quests (like Childish Games) will only apply one or the other for story reasons.

 

Also, it now supports SLIF!

 

While the morphing system works well, it's possible I missed the switch over on something somewhere. If you see any morph-related oddities, let me know!

 

 

There's a few other little changes as well:

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-You can't get corruption cures from bimbofied vendors any more (unless their curse is suppressed).

-Hardcore mode no longer disables forced bimbo chats on non-follower NPCs. (previously, if hardcore was on, forced chats would only occur with followers)

-Fixed the issue in CC_bimbofyNPCv2 where the override time was being ignored (irrelevant for most people, but I need to note that it's been done).

-Added a ton more preset names for bimbos (~80 more). If you find a female NPC that you give a shit about who doesn't have a name set, I'll be impressed.

-Minor text fixes.

This version is safe to update mid-playthrough.  All peripheral files (SE patch, botox patch, etc.) are unchanged, so keep your 1.7.5 ones.

Edited January 9, 2024 by jib_buttkiss

[foreveraloneguy]

If you're new to json, or just as a precaution, jsonlint.com is a great syntax checker. I always use it after editing a json file to make sure I didn't leave a comma off or forget to close a section.

 

@jib_buttkiss If it's not too much  trouble,. it might be worth adding some sanity checks to make sure the json loads correctly and is valid. Otherwise, you may end up with users complaining about not having any sliders after they've modified the morphs file if there are any errors in it.

[cikeh]

On 1/3/2024 at 6:36 PM, AphroditesEye said:

I also use OAR and I used to use DAR. I haven't had any issues with this mod in particular. I have however not been able to use Devious Devices with it, so that's a common thread. Maybe start looking there for issues?

Yeah, no, I didn't have issues with OAR and DD. It's only BOS with it.

Does anyone know a conflict maybe? It shouldn't be conflicting, but apparently it works well for others.

[AngryJohnny]

REALLY like this mod and so far have only two questions/issues.  With the first Childish games quest in Whiterun, is there a reason not all the required amount of items are found when you first enter?  I think I have collected maybe 13 but I believe the total is 18?  Morella needs all the items so was wondering if it's a go search the room on different days/times to get them all?  The second is a hair glitch.  Have the YPS mod working with this one and a cursed follower got the new white hair and then turned invisible and when she's not invisible she has the hyper hair glitch.  No wigs.  Had YPS manage the hair stuff and the box supposedly checked to prevent the bug.  Just curious if there is a simple solution to the hair glitch and if that first Morella quest has other hidden requirements.  Looking forward to the update

[AphroditesEye]

9 hours ago, cikeh said:

Yeah, no, I didn't have issues with OAR and DD. It's only BOS with it.

Does anyone know a conflict maybe? It shouldn't be conflicting, but apparently it works well for others.

What's the issue you're having specifically?

[Chris2999]

Two things, I am still using the 1.7.2 version with BHUNP because I am afraid updating it won't work, also I am stuck on the Childish game quest finding the alarm spell, I made a search on this thread, and it says its supposed to be on a cabinet on his office, but I literally looked everywhere and couldn't find it, even found a "Floating urn of overflowing secrets" which was found but not what I was looking for, any chance someone can share a screenshot of where it is supposed to be?

[jib_buttkiss]

18 hours ago, foreveraloneguy said:

If you're new to json, or just as a precaution, jsonlint.com is a great syntax checker. I always use it after editing a json file to make sure I didn't leave a comma off or forget to close a section.

 

@jib_buttkiss If it's not too much  trouble,. it might be worth adding some sanity checks to make sure the json loads correctly and is valid. Otherwise, you may end up with users complaining about not having any sliders after they've modified the morphs file if there are any errors in it.

 

Yeah, I'll add a notification if the .json doesn't load. I'm pretty sure Okshi already has it set up for a failure to get detected, but an actual popup would be good.

 

12 hours ago, cikeh said:

Yeah, no, I didn't have issues with OAR and DD. It's only BOS with it.

Does anyone know a conflict maybe? It shouldn't be conflicting, but apparently it works well for others.

 

This is a long shot that probably won't mean anything, but do you also have GS Poses installed?

 

8 hours ago, AngryJohnny said:

REALLY like this mod and so far have only two questions/issues.  With the first Childish games quest in Whiterun, is there a reason not all the required amount of items are found when you first enter?  I think I have collected maybe 13 but I believe the total is 18?  Morella needs all the items so was wondering if it's a go search the room on different days/times to get them all?  The second is a hair glitch.  Have the YPS mod working with this one and a cursed follower got the new white hair and then turned invisible and when she's not invisible she has the hyper hair glitch.  No wigs.  Had YPS manage the hair stuff and the box supposedly checked to prevent the bug.  Just curious if there is a simple solution to the hair glitch and if that first Morella quest has other hidden requirements.  Looking forward to the update

 

There should be enough there. 3 are placed in the world, and the rest are in the marked containers around the room. If you really can't find them, you can spawn a bunch of "Lyli's Panties" items in with the console and they'll count ("placeatme xx651BBD 5" or something like that).

 

What's the "hyper hair glitch"? It's possible that there's a broken hair in your YPS? First, try telling the follower to change to a different hairstyle under "Hey you little bimbo" in dialogue. If that still doesn't work, I'd say something's gone real wrong with the hairs. Try changing to use wigs instead of hair replacement- it's less fancy but much more stable. You can switch just that follower to wigs if you want in the debug dialogue by talking to them with the Journey of a Bimbo Babe debug book in your inventory.

 

By the way, just for my sanity's sake- are you on the latest version (1.7.5)?

 

24 minutes ago, Chris2999 said:

Two things, I am still using the 1.7.2 version with BHUNP because I am afraid updating it won't work, also I am stuck on the Childish game quest finding the alarm spell, I made a search on this thread, and it says its supposed to be on a cabinet on his office, but I literally looked everywhere and couldn't find it, even found a "Floating urn of overflowing secrets" which was found but not what I was looking for, any chance someone can share a screenshot of where it is supposed to be?

 

Yeah that urn's from one of your other mods. The scroll you're looking for is in this cabinet:

 

Also, you should really consider updating. It won't break your UNP stuff (you'll just have to re-bodyslide them), and there were some pretty nasty bugs in 1.7.2 that were fixed in later versions. I mean, check out the Fixes section for 1.7.3 in the changelog.

If you don't update, be careful in Childish Games- don't pick up that scroll until you've got the Mindbend potion (the other thing Morella said to get) or you'll be locked out of talking to Allessandra later in the game.

[Chris2999]

1 hour ago, jib_buttkiss said:

Yeah that urn's from one of your other mods. The scroll you're looking for is in this cabinet:

No wonder I couldn't find it, some other mod might have changed that location.

 

I will go and update it then hopefully all will be well, would I have to keep the SE patches and everything else or just use the newest file?

Edited January 7, 2024 by Chris2999

[jib_buttkiss]

6 minutes ago, Chris2999 said:

No wonder I couldn't find it, some other mod might have changed that location.

 

 

I will go and update it then hopefully all will be well, would I have to keep the SE patches and everything else or just use the newest file?

 

 

Ah. Withholding a rant about why someone would edit that... Well, if you can't find it anywhere, go get the Mindbend Potion first, then do setstage CC_Childishgames_5 20 and player.additem xx754161 1 in the console to progress the quest and give yourself the scroll.

 

 

For updating, update the main files (the main mod, the SE patch, the botox patch) but keep your UNP patches.

[Chris2999]

40 minutes ago, jib_buttkiss said:

Ah. Withholding a rant about why someone would edit that... Well, if you can't find it anywhere, go get the Mindbend Potion first, then do setstage CC_Childishgames_5 20 and player.additem xx754161 1 in the console to progress the quest and give yourself the scroll.

 

 

For updating, update the main files (the main mod, the SE patch, the botox patch) but keep your UNP patches.

Thanks you, that worked fine, I had already add the scroll using the Additemmenu mod but that did not advance the quest, thanks for the help with the quest and updating the mod, it seems to work fine.

[foreveraloneguy]

Going back to an earlier issue on the quest involving Belle, if you've done the Thieves' Guild quests, Aicantar is probably dead since you encounter him in Calcemo's laboratory and usually end up having to kill him. Maybe switch the person you get the book from to Calcemo since he's essential, or at least have him as a fallback in case you killed Aicantar during TG06?

[AngryJohnny]

7 hours ago, jib_buttkiss said:

There should be enough there. 3 are placed in the world, and the rest are in the marked containers around the room. If you really can't find them, you can spawn a bunch of "Lyli's Panties" items in with the console and they'll count ("placeatme xx651BBD 5" or something like that).

 

What's the "hyper hair glitch"? It's possible that there's a broken hair in your YPS? First, try telling the follower to change to a different hairstyle under "Hey you little bimbo" in dialogue. If that still doesn't work, I'd say something's gone real wrong with the hairs. Try changing to use wigs instead of hair replacement- it's less fancy but much more stable. You can switch just that follower to wigs if you want in the debug dialogue by talking to them with the Journey of a Bimbo Babe debug book in your inventory.

 

By the way, just for my sanity's sake- are you on the latest version (1.7.5)?

Thank you for the assist   If I can't find them this time I'll use the spawn in.  I'm doing a new run without YPS to see if I encounter that same glitch.  Was using Horrmones and found it hard to get a stable 'talk to' with the constant begging PC had to do to stay pretty.  If it happens this time I'll give your suggestion a try.  And yes, currently using current version 1.7.5

[cikeh]

23 hours ago, AphroditesEye said:

What's the issue you're having specifically?

Yeah, my animations are not loading with BOS (immediately notice the OAR-bar in the main menu not appearing at all indicating that it's loading the animations) sadly!

[cikeh]

20 hours ago, jib_buttkiss said:

This is a long shot that probably won't mean anything, but do you also have GS Poses installed?

I've had it installed until recently. Then for some reasons, I've had CTDs so I uninstalled it.

Actually, if you want to take a kind of "debugging" look, I'll leave it the loadorder.txt file here: loadorder.txt

Personally, I have no idea (and as of now no time too) to properly take a look and enable/disable all mods again to find the culprit!

[xone567]

Another option Sluttification curse,mean not reduce her intelligence,strong and smart,it immersive for being dragonborn and vanila skyrim,but body breast,ass,lip morph,makeup,slutty still work, different than bimbofication,can you make Sluttification option?or using custom skill frameworks, you can create new bimbo own perks tree like this https://www.loverslab.com/files/file/22245-children-of-lilith-succubus-of-skyrim/so that mod using custom own perks tree,so bimbofication to Sluttification perk,make not easy way get Sluttification perk,or easy.

Custom skill frameworks mod Link https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/41780

Edited January 8, 2024 by xone567

[DrSeptimus]

Would the new version let us save our settings?

 

I starting another new game today and gotta go thru another 30+ menu.. 

 

Would save a lot of time for new game+

 

[ebbluminous]

1 minute ago, DrSeptimus said:

Would the new version let us save our settings?

 

I starting another new game today and gotta go thru another 30+ menu.. 

 

Would save a lot of time for new game+

 

https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/61719

[Riot445]

Will there be a compatibility patch for this mod and the bijin series? Whenever the curse is applied to a npc under the bijin mods it makes their face all messed and strange looking. Its fine when I load it, they have the normal appearance, but if you fast travel or enter a building they get all wonky.

[jib_buttkiss]

On 1/7/2024 at 1:33 PM, foreveraloneguy said:

Going back to an earlier issue on the quest involving Belle, if you've done the Thieves' Guild quests, Aicantar is probably dead since you encounter him in Calcemo's laboratory and usually end up having to kill him. Maybe switch the person you get the book from to Calcemo since he's essential, or at least have him as a fallback in case you killed Aicantar during TG06?

 

Oh, he usually dies? I misremembered that quest then, I thought he typically survived. I just figured that if he is killed, whatever, you'd lose the little fetch quest.

I'll add a little redirect for if he's dead, then- just send you to Calcemo instead.

 

On 1/8/2024 at 6:42 AM, cikeh said:

I've had it installed until recently. Then for some reasons, I've had CTDs so I uninstalled it.

Actually, if you want to take a kind of "debugging" look, I'll leave it the loadorder.txt file here: loadorder.txt

Personally, I have no idea (and as of now no time too) to properly take a look and enable/disable all mods again to find the culprit!

 

Hm. If GSPoses was causing crashes, it could be a similar problem- since the animations here are repackaged GSPoses. I know that's not super helpful, but it's all I've got really. I don't know enough about OAR to suggest anything else.

 

10 hours ago, xone567 said:

Another option Sluttification curse,mean not reduce her intelligence,strong and smart,it immersive for being dragonborn and vanila skyrim,but body breast,ass,lip morph,makeup,slutty still work, different than bimbofication,can you make Sluttification option?or using custom skill frameworks, you can create new bimbo own perks tree like this https://www.loverslab.com/files/file/22245-children-of-lilith-succubus-of-skyrim/so that mod using custom own perks tree,so bimbofication to Sluttification perk,make not easy way get Sluttification perk,or easy.

Custom skill frameworks mod Link https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/41780

 

Pretty any part of the curse you want (thoughts, weakening debuffs, forced sex begging) can be already be disabled in the MCM if you want the mod to only change your character's body and not her intelligence.

 

A custom skill tree is definitively not happening. It's not something I want to do, have the patience to implement, or think would bring any real value to the mod.

 

8 hours ago, DrSeptimus said:

Would the new version let us save our settings?

 

I starting another new game today and gotta go thru another 30+ menu.. 

 

Would save a lot of time for new game+

 

 

With Okshi's morph edits, your morph settings are saved, at least. I feel like those are the worst bit to have to redo.

 

2 hours ago, Riot445 said:

Will there be a compatibility patch for this mod and the bijin series? Whenever the curse is applied to a npc under the bijin mods it makes their face all messed and strange looking. Its fine when I load it, they have the normal appearance, but if you fast travel or enter a building they get all wonky.

 

Bijin is a bit fiddly when it comes to this sort of thing, so the "fix" is to switch the bimbo hair replacement from Headpart Editing to Wig Use in the MCM.

 

Some mods just blow up when you try to edit their NPCs' heads directly, so using wigs is the only option. You'll just have a little less variety in your bimbo NPCs' hairs.

 

 

[foreveraloneguy]

Some feedback on the new version....

 

Yes, it really is safe to upgrade mid-game, but if any NPCs are part way through bimbofication, they keep whatever morphs were applied under the old system and get all the morphs from the new system which makes for sometimes "interesting" results.

 

If that happens and you're on SE and using slif, you can run click on them from the console the run "skee erase bodymorph", give them a bimbo tonic, wait for it to finish, then go into slif and unregister them for "cc bimbo". When the potion wear off, they'll get just the new morphs. Same thing works if you just want a given bimbo to have the new morphs.

 

Otherwise, 1.75 > 1.75.1 has been totally smooth.

[SkyAddiction]

On 1/5/2024 at 7:34 AM, jib_buttkiss said:

Right then- here's 1.7.5.1:

 

Bimbos of Skyrim v1.7.5.1- New Morphs Beta.rar 195.69 MB · 181 downloads

 

It works, and it works on existing saves, but I do have this, even if I adjust the values and return them to the status quo ante:

 

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    "Breasts" : -0.80000000000000004,
        "BreastsFantasy" : 0.29999999999999999,
        "BreastsSH" : 0.0,
        "BreastsSSH" : 0.40000000000000002,
        "BreastsSmall" : -0.20000000000000001,
        "DoubleMelon" : 0.20000000000000001,
        "PushUp" : -0.10000000149011612,
        "ShoulderWidth" : -0.40000000000000002,
        "breasts" : 0.20000000000000001

 

Those values are absurd. They should be like 0.3 for the second one. Is it possible to eventually blow up a save? I assume so. But then I know about 1/10th of what I really need to for this stuff.

 

Again, Does it work? Yes, it does. Will it continue working? Yes, I do have faith. 

Edited January 9, 2024 by SkyAddiction

[cikeh]

9 hours ago, jib_buttkiss said:

Hm. If GSPoses was causing crashes, it could be a similar problem- since the animations here are repackaged GSPoses. I know that's not super helpful, but it's all I've got really. I don't know enough about OAR to suggest anything else.

Very fair! I would personally play around with these files, because the problem seems to be in the programming, not the animation itself. Probably the sync of the code into OAR. Well, OAR is apparently not "fully backwards compatible" with DAR it seems then. But seeing that the author of DAR abandoned the mod and OAR (is open-source too I think), OAR is clearly the future here. In general, it has a better mod integration and allows for more options. 

 

I quickly flew over one of these files, I wouldn't know myself, what can cause the error in these files. Maybe the parent class?

[DrSeptimus]

10 hours ago, jib_buttkiss said:

With Okshi's morph edits, your morph settings are saved, at least. I feel like those are the worst bit to have to redo.

 

Cools...

 

I wish you can make it compatible with BBLS system, their clothing system occasionally conflict with Bimbo whereby both outfit would be worn together.

 

I have a few more question.

 

1) Would you integrate it with survival mode? Such as drinking cum would fill the hunger and sex would increase exhaustion faster.

2) Allowed food & drink to be spike and increase bimbofication instead of potion only?

3) Would you integrate it with other mod such as Public Whore? For example, bimbo would automatically find steward to be ask to turn into one. I see you add love sick mod as part of your mod features.

 

 

[jib_buttkiss]

12 hours ago, foreveraloneguy said:

Some feedback on the new version....

 

Yes, it really is safe to upgrade mid-game, but if any NPCs are part way through bimbofication, they keep whatever morphs were applied under the old system and get all the morphs from the new system which makes for sometimes "interesting" results.

 

If that happens and you're on SE and using slif, you can run click on them from the console the run "skee erase bodymorph", give them a bimbo tonic, wait for it to finish, then go into slif and unregister them for "cc bimbo". When the potion wear off, they'll get just the new morphs. Same thing works if you just want a given bimbo to have the new morphs.

 

Otherwise, 1.75 > 1.75.1 has been totally smooth.

 

Ah, whoops. Should have seen that coming. Yeah, if the morphs being edited change mid-bimbofication (either in the MCM, the .json, or by changing to SLIF), it'll always go a bit odd.

 

Now that morphs are applied with a key, in 1.8 I'll add a debug function to clear all BoS morphs from an actor, and another to reapply full bimbo morphs. That way, if a bimbo goes wrong, it'll be fairly easy to fix her up again.

 

5 hours ago, SkyAddiction said:

 

It works, and it works on existing saves, but I do have this, even if I adjust the values and return them to the status quo ante:

 

 

Those values are absurd. They should be like 0.3 for the second one. Is it possible to eventually blow up a save? I assume so. But then I know about 1/10th of what I really need to for this stuff.

 

Again, Does it work? Yes, it does. Will it continue working? Yes, I do have faith. 

 

Oh, that just looks like floating point rounding error. I guess somewhere along the way of jsonUtil writing those floats to a .json file, it loses the exact precision. It's fine, that sort of thing comes up all the time in code. The values won't be read/written anywhere near the number of times required for that precision loss to have an effect.

 

Maybe in 1.8 I'll round them when they're read again, just to avoid the ugly ...00000001'ness of it.

 

2 hours ago, cikeh said:

Very fair! I would personally play around with these files, because the problem seems to be in the programming, not the animation itself. Probably the sync of the code into OAR. Well, OAR is apparently not "fully backwards compatible" with DAR it seems then. But seeing that the author of DAR abandoned the mod and OAR (is open-source too I think), OAR is clearly the future here. In general, it has a better mod integration and allows for more options. 

 

I quickly flew over one of these files, I wouldn't know myself, what can cause the error in these files. Maybe the parent class?

 

I don't sync any code into OAR or DAR, or have anything to do with them at all. This mod uses FNIS like Sexlab. If OAR isn't playing nice with FNIS, that's on OAR.

 

2 hours ago, DrSeptimus said:

 

Cools...

 

I wish you can make it compatible with BBLS system, their clothing system occasionally conflict with Bimbo whereby both outfit would be worn together.

 

I have a few more question.

 

1) Would you integrate it with survival mode? Such as drinking cum would fill the hunger and sex would increase exhaustion faster.

2) Allowed food & drink to be spike and increase bimbofication instead of potion only?

3) Would you integrate it with other mod such as Public Whore? For example, bimbo would automatically find steward to be ask to turn into one. I see you add love sick mod as part of your mod features.

 

 

 

If the bimbo outfits are causing problems with BBLS, you can tell a bimbo to fully remove and forget her bimbo outfit under "Hey, you little bimbo..." as of 1.7.4.

 

I do want to target more mod integration stuff for 1.8. I've already got Milk Mod Economy in my sights. It just boils down to how simple the interface is for that mod- that's why there's Love Sickness integration already. If Public Whore or Survival Mode have something simple I can hook into, sure.

 

It would be easy to make food/drink be spiked as well as potions- there actually has to be a line of code to prevent that in the first place. I can add a toggle to reenable that.

[foreveraloneguy]

6 hours ago, SkyAddiction said:

 

It works, and it works on existing saves, but I do have this, even if I adjust the values and return them to the status quo ante:

 

 

Those values are absurd. They should be like 0.3 for the second one. Is it possible to eventually blow up a save? I assume so. But then I know about 1/10th of what I really need to for this stuff.

 

Again, Does it work? Yes, it does. Will it continue working? Yes, I do have faith. 

 

Don't worry about it. Like Jib said, it's not an issue. Just make your changes in the GUI, then edit the json and set the exact value. And no, it won't blow up a save.