DonQuiWho Posted March 27, 2024 Posted March 27, 2024 10 hours ago, lolcat2 said: Could you please tell me what the requirements for the SE version of Defeat 5.3.6 are? For some reason, the MCM menu never appears. Is DAYMOYL a requirement? Specific animation packs? DD? I am doing a fresh installation of everything, and this is the only mod I was unable to activate thus far. So far, DAYMOYL has not been a requirement. I doubt if the latest version has changed that but you would see 'missing masters' warning (if using MO2) and the game would probably CTD on startup anyway Otherwise difficult to tell Do you get 'any' MCM at all? IIRC, most of the full MCM does not appear until you start the mod from what appears intitially Have you tried loading Defeat etc near the end of your load order? And if you are using MO2, , - have you got the mods in the order of Defeat, then LRG's patch - does MO2 show any files being overwritten And is the very latest version the first time you have used this mod? It may be a new glitch that didn't appear in prior versions. You'd need to get @Bane Master to give you advice on that Another thought. Does ReSaver show Defeat files active in your game on a save made after installation Just persevere It will be worth the effort. Hope that's of some help DQW 1
lolcat2 Posted March 28, 2024 Posted March 28, 2024 9 hours ago, DonQuiWho said: So far, DAYMOYL has not been a requirement. I doubt if the latest version has changed that but you would see 'missing masters' warning (if using MO2) and the game would probably CTD on startup anyway Otherwise difficult to tell Do you get 'any' MCM at all? IIRC, most of the full MCM does not appear until you start the mod from what appears intitially Have you tried loading Defeat etc near the end of your load order? And if you are using MO2, , - have you got the mods in the order of Defeat, then LRG's patch - does MO2 show any files being overwritten And is the very latest version the first time you have used this mod? It may be a new glitch that didn't appear in prior versions. You'd need to get @Bane Master to give you advice on that Another thought. Does ReSaver show Defeat files active in your game on a save made after installation Just persevere It will be worth the effort. Hope that's of some help DQW Thank you so much for your help! Thanks to your suggestions, I was able to find and resolve the problem. As you guessed, there was a missing master file, but MO2 was silently not loading the mod altogether instead of loading it and then crashing. ReSaver helped me figure that out. I assumed the requirements listed under the first post were complete. They were not. The first post reads: Spoiler -------------------- Requirements Last versions of these mods are REQUIRED : SexLab Framework 1.60+ SKYUI SKSE 1.7.3+ FNIS Do no forget to download and install the creature pack under optional files. This list is incomplete. The mod also needs SexLabAroused.esm. I downloaded and installed OSL Aroused which contains SexLabAroused.esm, after which I was able to load the mod and reach the MCM menu. I haven't tested it any further yet, but it looks promising. Thanks again, and I hope this helps others who might encounter the same problem. 1
WaxenFigure Posted March 29, 2024 Posted March 29, 2024 On 1/27/2024 at 1:42 PM, HexBolt8 said: That's just a matter of checking actor.GetActorValue("WaitingForPlayer") != 0. If something isn't doing that, it should be an easy condition to add. What defeat condition are you using on the "Player as victim" page? I find that Essential - On Bleedout is the most reliable. If you set a damage threshold and take big damage that drops you from okay to dead in one hit, you'll die. As the long forgotten author of the first decently functional sex mod for Skyrim (which inspired the Sex Framework that then inspired the creation of the Sexlab Framework) my mod ALSO included a "Defeat" function. I avoided "killing blows" when I wanted to defeat enemies or the player and when present followers got defeated by using the OnHit event to check the number of hit points the hit was going to give the PC or NPC and would give enough hit points to the PC or NPC so the they would enter bleedout instead of dying. I've never seen that used to prevent dying in any other mod BUT it worked very well and would handle additional blows from additional fighting to keep the NPC in bleedout but not dying until the fight was over and the victorious got to claim their prizes. That combination allowed me a playthrough where my player ended up being screwed by every bad guy (no, creatures though as that was before we got any creature animations) to where my player got to screw every bad guy (or gal) he or she wanted to. Well that mechanism plus a calming spell that made the defeated or victorious enemies friendly for 24 hours (or a location change) while undefeated or non-victorious enemies would remain hostile. I'm posting this here because it seems like a similar mechanism added to Defeat would fix many of the problems I see people are still having and because it would allow a completion of the game without killing anyone that a quest didn't demand you kill. And my old mod allowed you to not have sex with any defeated enemy or kill them anyway if you wanted which also happens to already be in Defeat.
Tlam99 Posted March 29, 2024 Posted March 29, 2024 3 hours ago, WaxenFigure said: prevent dying Dibella's secret no2. It avoids dead even on level 1 hit by a giant.
DonQuiWho Posted March 29, 2024 Posted March 29, 2024 12 hours ago, WaxenFigure said: As the long forgotten author of the first decently functional sex mod for Skyrim (which inspired the Sex Framework that then inspired the creation of the Sexlab Framework) my mod ALSO included a "Defeat" function. I avoided "killing blows" when I wanted to defeat enemies or the player and when present followers got defeated by using the OnHit event to check the number of hit points the hit was going to give the PC or NPC and would give enough hit points to the PC or NPC so the they would enter bleedout instead of dying. I've never seen that used to prevent dying in any other mod BUT it worked very well and would handle additional blows from additional fighting to keep the NPC in bleedout but not dying until the fight was over and the victorious got to claim their prizes. That combination allowed me a playthrough where my player ended up being screwed by every bad guy (no, creatures though as that was before we got any creature animations) to where my player got to screw every bad guy (or gal) he or she wanted to. Well that mechanism plus a calming spell that made the defeated or victorious enemies friendly for 24 hours (or a location change) while undefeated or non-victorious enemies would remain hostile. I'm posting this here because it seems like a similar mechanism added to Defeat would fix many of the problems I see people are still having and because it would allow a completion of the game without killing anyone that a quest didn't demand you kill. And my old mod allowed you to not have sex with any defeated enemy or kill them anyway if you wanted which also happens to already be in Defeat. Isn't the NPC defeat by adding up cumulative Hit Points, as incorporated in AndrewLRG's addon - these being variable by attack type and strength, with the player being able to set the parameters in the Defeat MCM - not pretty much the equivalent to that? I appreciate that it won't be identical, but does it not have just about the same effect? DQW
Herowynne Posted March 29, 2024 Posted March 29, 2024 (edited) 6 hours ago, DonQuiWho said: Isn't the NPC defeat by adding up cumulative Hit Points, as incorporated in AndrewLRG's addon - these being variable by attack type and strength, with the player being able to set the parameters in the Defeat MCM - not pretty much the equivalent to that? I appreciate that it won't be identical, but does it not have just about the same effect? DQW Yes, I agree that there seems to be quite a bit of similarity between the @AndrewLRG Dynamic Defeat feature and the mod behavior that @WaxenFigure described. One difference that I can think of is that player death is still possible when using Dynamic Defeat. If the player is a low level, then a giant hit can be a one-hit kill. Also, if the player is surrounded by many enemies all doing significant damage, then the player health can decrease faster than the Dynamic Defeat bar fills up. I typically boost my player character's health by 1000 in order to avoid player death at low levels while using Dynamic Defeat: player.modav health 1000 Edited March 29, 2024 by Herowynne 1
Tlam99 Posted March 30, 2024 Posted March 30, 2024 30 minutes ago, Herowynne said: low level, then a giant hit because the damage is in the pipe, in the cache. There is a solution. As said, check the Dibella secret no2 script. It's part of harvesting adventures.
DonQuiWho Posted March 31, 2024 Posted March 31, 2024 On 3/29/2024 at 11:35 PM, Herowynne said: Yes, I agree that there seems to be quite a bit of similarity between the @AndrewLRG Dynamic Defeat feature and the mod behavior that @WaxenFigure described. One difference that I can think of is that player death is still possible when using Dynamic Defeat. If the player is a low level, then a giant hit can be a one-hit kill. Also, if the player is surrounded by many enemies all doing significant damage, then the player health can decrease faster than the Dynamic Defeat bar fills up. I typically boost my player character's health by 1000 in order to avoid player death at low levels while using Dynamic Defeat: player.modav health 1000 I understand that some people still use DAYMOYL in conjunction with Bane's version to try to get round the 'drop dead instantly' issue, but your methodology sounds like a really great idea! I'll try that as soon as I get a chance On 3/30/2024 at 12:07 AM, Tlam99 said: because the damage is in the pipe, in the cache. There is a solution. As said, check the Dibella secret no2 script. It's part of harvesting adventures. I was trying out that mod in my current playthrough and TBH I've found it a little bit incomprehensible as to how both the MCM and mechanics work and interrelate, never mind worrying about whether or not Dibella is sitting around doing No2's. 😏 Can you please enlighten us a little bit on what this script does? 🙂 TIA DQW
Tlam99 Posted March 31, 2024 Posted March 31, 2024 The script (psc) should be the latest date. Most are set hidden but not this one. I am not at the pc for a while.
Tlam99 Posted March 31, 2024 Posted March 31, 2024 (edited) 10 hours ago, DonQuiWho said: what this script does? Here the psc. Latest, not updated the mod yet. Just added 2 damage functions (Stamina, Magicka) The settings Defeat should be similar like this to make it work properly. (player chance pretty hight for wound and exhausted) The settings of Defeat must kick in before this script ! Otherwise it takes control. It's intended to avoid dead on multiple hits or a giant slam. PS: If it happens the struggle bar does not appear and you cannot move, try to struggle, or wait (3min the longest), open inventory and dring a healing. Spoiler ProtectPlayerTlam99.psc Edited March 31, 2024 by Tlam99 1
Foxwlf Posted April 1, 2024 Posted April 1, 2024 Playing AE 1.6.1170.0.8 with 5.3.6 20032024, CTD when starting the game, cannot even see the main menu. It was normal when using ordinary Defeat SSE 5.3.5. Is there a log or something to find the problem?
Bane Master Posted April 2, 2024 Posted April 2, 2024 On 4/1/2024 at 12:16 PM, Foxwlf said: Playing AE 1.6.1170.0.8 with 5.3.6 20032024, CTD when starting the game, cannot even see the main menu. It was normal when using ordinary Defeat SSE 5.3.5. Is there a log or something to find the problem? Most likely your are missing or have an outdated dependency Crash Logger SSE AE should help you diagnose the issue
somedamnthing Posted April 5, 2024 Posted April 5, 2024 There's a Sexlab optimization patch called Sexlab P+. It really does clean up a lot of bad legacy Sexlab behavior, but it also completely breaks the necrophilia function of every SL Defeat fork, including this one. Just putting this issue on the radar of future patches, since this seems to be the most recently updated defeat, and I'd really like to run both.
Hex Bolt Posted April 5, 2024 Posted April 5, 2024 1 hour ago, somedamnthing said: There's a Sexlab optimization patch called Sexlab P+. It really does clean up a lot of bad legacy Sexlab behavior, but it also completely breaks the necrophilia function of every SL Defeat fork, including this one. Just putting this issue on the radar of future patches, since this seems to be the most recently updated defeat, and I'd really like to run both. Wouldn't it make sense to fix the problem at the source, in SL P+, rather than trying to get various other mods to adjust something that has been working all along? 2
somedamnthing Posted April 5, 2024 Posted April 5, 2024 1 hour ago, HexBolt8 said: Wouldn't it make sense to fix the problem at the source, in SL P+, rather than trying to get various other mods to adjust something that has been working all along? Not according to what that linked reply said.
Herowynne Posted April 5, 2024 Posted April 5, 2024 1 hour ago, HexBolt8 said: Wouldn't it make sense to fix the problem at the source, in SL P+, rather than trying to get various other mods to adjust something that has been working all along? Scrab decided against full backwards compatibility, and decided that improvements justified making incompatible behavior differences. On the one hand, that is a fine decision for a mod author to make, and I completely respect that decision. But on the other hand, I don’t think that I will ever be able to switch to SL p+, and I am concerned that our mod community could be fractured. 3
Hex Bolt Posted April 5, 2024 Posted April 5, 2024 8 hours ago, Herowynne said: Scrab decided against full backwards compatibility, and decided that improvements justified making incompatible behavior differences. On the one hand, that is a fine decision for a mod author to make, and I completely respect that decision. But on the other hand, I don’t think that I will ever be able to switch to SL p+, and I am concerned that our mod community could be fractured. Yes. The norm with modding is backwards compatibility so as not to break other people's mods, while offering improvements that mods can make use of if they wish. "First, do no harm." Devious Devices 5 is a good example, with its change to a more efficient mechanism for equipping & unequipping while keeping backwards compatibility. Existing mods still worked the same without disruption, but most chose to switch to the newer functions at a time that was good for them. We sometimes see a mod take a "my way or the highway" approach, but as you mentioned, that is divisive. Mod authors are certainly free do as they please with their mods, but this seems harsh. Well, it's up to Bane Master to decide what to do here with Defeat. 1
Scrab Posted April 5, 2024 Posted April 5, 2024 (edited) Let me start this by saying that vast majority of incompatibilities with SLP+ come from one of 3 sources: People being on an outdated version of the mod Known issues Not installing the mod correctly P+ works correctly with majority of mods without any patches up to the scope of content thats currently being covered. The most recent in dev versions also work with previously incompatible mods like SLAC and YK without a patch being required The only mods that are strictly incompatible are the ones that are directly overwriting SL scripts - the kinda mods that are impossible to be compatible with by the very nature of being a SL fork and majority of those have a build-in alternative planned, being worked on or already available. Beyond that, the only exception of an intended incompatibility is SLAL and while some may call this "fracturing the community" the feedback Ive received has been overwhelmingly positive and automated conversions have made significant advancements to the point where there are no downsides to using SLSB over SLAL anymore Id prefer if that myth that SLP+ is willfully incompatible with a lot of mods could stop being spread around everywhere As for necrophilia animations specifically, the way all necrophilia mods work in SL is by resurrecting the actor prior to starting the animation because SL doesnt allow animating dead actors, while P+ does (iff the corresponding .ini setting is enabled) and with this change, necrophilia animations through modern APIs are only returned if the actors the animations are gathered for are actually dead by the time these animations are requested However, the legacy API integrations lacks those features and there is nothing stopping you from gathering a necro animation for those (alive) actors. The reason why these animations do not play has nothing to do with backwards compatibility. Its a bug in the algorithm that orders actors to the requested scene and affects both P+ and Legacy mods alike. No patch would do anything about that and once the bug is fixed, these legacy necrophilia mods should work the same way they did before The post thats being linked above is outdated and no longer reflects the current development status. It was made before the new system was fully designed and implemented. Ill edit it to not create further confusion Edited April 5, 2024 by Scrab 5
Herowynne Posted April 5, 2024 Posted April 5, 2024 I relocated the SL p+ discussion to the SL p+ support thread.
Bane Master Posted April 5, 2024 Posted April 5, 2024 1 hour ago, Scrab said: No patch would do anything about that and once the bug is fixed, these legacy necrophilia mods should work the same way they did before No further action as far as Defeat is concerned then - thank you for clarifying
Hex Bolt Posted April 5, 2024 Posted April 5, 2024 4 hours ago, Scrab said: The reason why these animations do not play has nothing to do with backwards compatibility. Its a bug in the algorithm that orders actors to the requested scene and affects both P+ and Legacy mods alike. No patch would do anything about that and once the bug is fixed, these legacy necrophilia mods should work the same way they did before Thank you for the detailed explanation. It looks like some outdated information out there was painting a different picture. This sounds very reasonable.
asdfmovie666 Posted April 10, 2024 Posted April 10, 2024 Hey I am using the newest bane Version and have the following issue. There are sometimes enemies that wont stop hitting my Character until death even though i have the essential mode activated or not triggering defeat at all. I first had it happen with a Highway man from a mod and today inside the Ravenscar Hollow with the Bandit that I freed from the Cage. Most of the time it works fine but somehow i had this problem occuring to me. Maybe you find something that is incompatible in my Loadorder Spoiler # This file was automatically generated by Mod Organizer. 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wren888 Posted April 10, 2024 Posted April 10, 2024 1 hour ago, asdfmovie666 said: Hey I am using the newest bane Version and have the following issue. There are sometimes enemies that wont stop hitting my Character until death even though i have the essential mode activated or not triggering defeat at all. I first had it happen with a Highway man from a mod and today inside the Ravenscar Hollow with the Bandit that I freed from the Cage. Most of the time it works fine but somehow i had this problem occuring to me. Maybe you find something that is incompatible in my Loadorder Reveal hidden contents # This file was automatically generated by Mod Organizer. 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PopulatedSkyrimFaceFix.esp DeviouslyHelpless.esp dD Enchanted Chests.esp Deviously Vanilla - AIO.esp Deviously Vanilla - Timing is Everything.esp dD Follower Escape.esp DeviousInterests.esp DD_Helpers.esp [Ashtoreth] Black Hellebore.esp [Ashtoreth] Duskrogue Armor.esp [Ashtoreth] Ahlanna Armor.esp [Ashtoreth] Dragon Skin.esp SexLabDefeat_LRG_Patch.esp My character always dies despite essential mode being on. I tried some things that didn't help, then finally resorted to pulling up the console (type "~") and writing "TIM" first thing every time I load a save. "TIM" stands for "toggle immortal mode." My character's health now goes down to zero, but she doesn't die. I suspect the cause of our problems is a mod conflict or a load order problem, but I could be mistaken.
asdfmovie666 Posted April 11, 2024 Posted April 11, 2024 11 hours ago, wren888 said: My character always dies despite essential mode being on. I tried some things that didn't help, then finally resorted to pulling up the console (type "~") and writing "TIM" first thing every time I load a save. "TIM" stands for "toggle immortal mode." My character's health now goes down to zero, but she doesn't die. I suspect the cause of our problems is a mod conflict or a load order problem, but I could be mistaken. Well this sounds like a workaround. But I will try this if it fixes it I will not complain
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