Maddie42 Posted May 24, 2017 Posted May 24, 2017 I've been using this mod for over 6 months now without any problems, but it started acting up after I did a clean install of Skyrim. Now 9 out of 10 times my character bleeds out while resisting an opponent's assault. I will be tapping the A and D buttons while watching my health either increase or remain at a steady 40%, then all of a sudden I lose player controls and the screen and audio do the "you just died" thing. My character isn't dead tho and the resist fails. The scene then plays correctly but the screen keeps flashing and playing the "you are dead' music. After the scene I do not regain control of my character, but she doesn't die either. If I don't resist, I usually die from bleedout during the scene. Which is really weird since most of the times Defeat increases my health upon knock down. Does anyone know what is causing this? Edit: Also, sometimes when I knock an opponent down and tie her up, my character will get knocked down with the "you can't go on fighting" message appearing in the top left. This never used to happen before. I feel like there is a mod interefering but I wouldn't know which one. The only one I added to the modlist that also has a "don't die" mechanic is Cursed Loot, but its "Combat Surrender" option is disabled (by default). Load order: Skyrim.esmUpdate.esmUnofficial Skyrim Patch.espDawnguard.esmUnofficial Dawnguard Patch.espHearthFires.esmUnofficial Hearthfire Patch.espDragonborn.esmUnofficial Dragonborn Patch.espApachiiHair.esmSexLab.esmSexLabAroused.esmZaZAnimationPack.esmSchlongs of Skyrim - Core.esmCreatureFramework.esmDevious Devices - Assets.esmDevious Devices - Integration.esmDevious Devices - Expansion.esmHighResTexturePack01.espHighResTexturePack02.espHighResTexturePack03.espThe Dance of Death.espWeapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.espSkyRe_Main.espxazPrisonOverhaul.espxazPrisonOverhaul - Patch.espSkyRe_EncounterZones.espWeapons & Armor_TrueWeaponsLvlLists.espUFO - Dawnguard AddOn.espBetter Vampires.espSexLabNudeCreatures.espSexLabNudeCreaturesDB.espSexLabNudeCreaturesDG.espFtM_3 - OBIS + CCOR.espFtM_3 - OBIS.espHothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.espImmersive Weapons.espSkyRe_EnemyScaling.espHentaiCreatures.espUFO - Heartfire AddOn.espUFO - Ultimate Follower Overhaul.espDeviously Cursed Loot.espSkyRe_StandingStones.espRecorder Follower Base.espSkyRe_Races.espSkyRe_EnemyAI.espVampire Skin Color Fix.espSkyRe_Combat.espApocalypse - The Spell Package.espApocalypse - SkyRe Compatibility Patch.espSkyUI.espLovelyHairstylesLITE.espHothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.espdD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.espWeaponsArmorFixes_ImmersiveWeapons_Patch.espUFO - Dragonborn AddOn.espHarvestOverhaul.espHarvestOverhaul_SkyRe_Patch.espFNIS.espSexLabDefeat.espSexLabMatchMaker.espSL Deadly Drain.espSchlongs of Skyrim.espSOS - Smurf Average Addon.espSOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.espMoreNastyCritters.espSexLabFuck'EmUp.espRaceMenu.espRaceMenuPlugin.espRaceMenuMorphsUUNP.espKS Hairdo's.espDual Sheath Redux.espSexLabDangerousNights2.espSOS - B3lisario UNP Addon.espSexLabWorkingGirl.espFEMALE.espFEMALE_DLCaddon.espDeviouslyHelpless.espmslDeviousCaptures.espFtM_3.espFtM_3 - CCOR.espDevious Deviants.espSOSRaceMenu.espXPMSE.esp12FemaleBrows.espReProccer.espDual Sheath Redux Patch.esp
Airianna Posted May 24, 2017 Posted May 24, 2017 I've been using this mod for over 6 months now without any problems, but it started acting up after I did a clean install of Skyrim. Now 9 out of 10 times my character bleeds out while resisting an opponent's assault. I will be tapping the A and D buttons while watching my health either increase or remain at a steady 40%, then all of a sudden I lose player controls and the screen and audio do the "you just died" thing. My character isn't dead tho and the resist fails. The scene then plays correctly but the screen keeps flashing and playing the "you are dead' music. After the scene I do not regain control of my character, but she doesn't die either. If I don't resist, I usually die from bleedout during the scene. Which is really weird since most of the times Defeat increases my health upon knock down. Does anyone know what is causing this? Edit: Also, sometimes when I knock an opponent down and tie her up, my character will get knocked down with the "you can't go on fighting" message appearing in the top left. This never used to happen before. I feel like there is a mod interefering but I wouldn't know which one. The only one I added to the modlist that also has a "don't die" mechanic is Cursed Loot, but its "Combat Surrender" option is disabled (by default). Load order: Skyrim.esm Update.esm Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp Dawnguard.esm Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp HearthFires.esm Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp Dragonborn.esm Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp ApachiiHair.esm SexLab.esm SexLabAroused.esm ZaZAnimationPack.esm Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm CreatureFramework.esm Devious Devices - Assets.esm Devious Devices - Integration.esm Devious Devices - Expansion.esm HighResTexturePack01.esp HighResTexturePack02.esp HighResTexturePack03.esp The Dance of Death.esp Weapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.esp SkyRe_Main.esp xazPrisonOverhaul.esp xazPrisonOverhaul - Patch.esp SkyRe_EncounterZones.esp Weapons & Armor_TrueWeaponsLvlLists.esp UFO - Dawnguard AddOn.esp Better Vampires.esp SexLabNudeCreatures.esp SexLabNudeCreaturesDB.esp SexLabNudeCreaturesDG.esp FtM_3 - OBIS + CCOR.esp FtM_3 - OBIS.esp Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp Immersive Weapons.esp SkyRe_EnemyScaling.esp HentaiCreatures.esp UFO - Heartfire AddOn.esp UFO - Ultimate Follower Overhaul.esp Deviously Cursed Loot.esp SkyRe_StandingStones.esp Recorder Follower Base.esp SkyRe_Races.esp SkyRe_EnemyAI.esp Vampire Skin Color Fix.esp SkyRe_Combat.esp Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp Apocalypse - SkyRe Compatibility Patch.esp SkyUI.esp LovelyHairstylesLITE.esp Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp WeaponsArmorFixes_ImmersiveWeapons_Patch.esp UFO - Dragonborn AddOn.esp HarvestOverhaul.esp HarvestOverhaul_SkyRe_Patch.esp FNIS.esp SexLabDefeat.esp SexLabMatchMaker.esp SL Deadly Drain.esp Schlongs of Skyrim.esp SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp MoreNastyCritters.esp SexLabFuck'EmUp.esp RaceMenu.esp RaceMenuPlugin.esp RaceMenuMorphsUUNP.esp KS Hairdo's.esp Dual Sheath Redux.esp SexLabDangerousNights2.esp SOS - B3lisario UNP Addon.esp SexLabWorkingGirl.esp FEMALE.esp FEMALE_DLCaddon.esp DeviouslyHelpless.esp mslDeviousCaptures.esp FtM_3.esp FtM_3 - CCOR.esp Devious Deviants.esp SOSRaceMenu.esp XPMSE.esp 12FemaleBrows.esp ReProccer.esp Dual Sheath Redux Patch.esp I've been experiencing something similar With Simple Slavery 5.1 installed. Without it, Defeat runs fine. Common Loaded Mods are: Skyrim.esm Update.esm Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp Dawnguard.esm Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp HearthFires.esm Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp Dragonborn.esm Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp ApachiiHair.esm SexLab.esm SexLabAroused.esm ZaZAnimationPack.esm Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm CreatureFramework.esm HighResTexturePack01.esp HighResTexturePack02.esp HighResTexturePack03.esp Better Vampires.esp SexLabNudeCreatures.esp SexLabNudeCreaturesDB.esp SexLabNudeCreaturesDG.esp SkyUI.esp dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp FNIS.esp SexLabDefeat.esp Schlongs of Skyrim.esp SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp MoreNastyCritters.esp RaceMenu.esp RaceMenuPlugin.esp RaceMenuMorphsUUNP.esp KS Hairdo's.esp SOSRaceMenu.esp XPMSE.esp So the ones listed should not be causing the problem. Try moving Defeat to the bottom of the load order, And see if http://www.loverslab.com/files/file/1057-sexlab-stop-combat/ Will be of any help to you... Also, I am using http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/16311/? so I can't actually stay dead.
ZoanChrome Posted May 24, 2017 Posted May 24, 2017 maybe a common and stupid issue I'm havingMy female char try to rape a male bandit ( thru weapons out and G, make him strip, and "nice body...")then the scene begins with my female char play the male role (with strap on), and the male bandit play the female role, I switch the role with '=' after the scene finished, the bandit just standing there naked, and not hostile anymore (still just standing even if I hit him) already checked female first in player/follower aggressor nearly all of the type (tied, sexual assault,etc) and yes, Sexlab determine that my character is female
Airianna Posted May 24, 2017 Posted May 24, 2017 maybe a common and stupid issue I'm having My female char try to rape a male bandit ( thru weapons out and G, make him strip, and "nice body...") then the scene begins with my female char play the male role (with strap on), and the male bandit play the female role, I switch the role with '=' after the scene finished, the bandit just standing there naked, and not hostile anymore (still just standing even if I hit him) already checked female first in player/follower aggressor nearly all of the type (tied, sexual assault,etc) and yes, Sexlab determine that my character is female I've had this issue... 3 things to try in order... 1- Open Defeat's MCM, General tab, Clean up. 2- Bring up the list, and do a full clean. Clean Tied, Clean Knockout, Clean. (Was it a power or just a hotkey to bring up the message box?) 3- Reinstalling Defeat, overwriting all should fix the issue with the bandit no longer just standing there. - If not, then there is a conflict with another mod. - Stop combat gets stuck - I have gone all the way from Riften to Solitude, without a single enemy on the roads, Just walk past everyone without a worry of being attacked... Enter a bandit camp, take what I wanted, and left without a fight. The Defeat's default keyword for a female raping a male is Cowgirl. And technically, men are very eager, so it isn't rape Unless you shove a strappy up their backdoor, and most don't want that... LOL - "You like shoving it up my backdoor, it's your turn! See how it feels!" - But even funnier when my girl uses a strappy on the guy in the aggressive Missionary scene, guess she's trying to turn him into a her... On a serious note. If you added doggy style, or other keywords, The Aggressor is always in the top position from sexlab it's self. And the only way I know of to remove the added keywords from defeat, is to remove defeat, clean save, reinstall... The keyword selections don't seem to have a way to remove, only add keywords at this time. You can add Sexlab Tools, I use it for changing Animation types via keyword, and changing the scene by name using current keyword selection, Sexlab has a position selector that you can use to swap positions...
jfraser Posted May 24, 2017 Posted May 24, 2017 maybe a common and stupid issue I'm having My female char try to rape a male bandit ( thru weapons out and G, make him strip, and "nice body...") then the scene begins with my female char play the male role (with strap on), and the male bandit play the female role, I switch the role with '=' after the scene finished, the bandit just standing there naked, and not hostile anymore (still just standing even if I hit him) already checked female first in player/follower aggressor nearly all of the type (tied, sexual assault,etc) and yes, Sexlab determine that my character is female I've had this issue... 3 things to try in order... 1- Open Defeat's MCM, General tab, Clean up. 2- Bring up the list, and do a full clean. Clean Tied, Clean Knockout, Clean. (Was it a power or just a hotkey to bring up the message box?) 3- Reinstalling Defeat, overwriting all should fix the issue with the bandit no longer just standing there. - If not, then there is a conflict with another mod. - Stop combat gets stuck - I have gone all the way from Riften to Solitude, without a single enemy on the roads, Just walk past everyone without a worry of being attacked... Enter a bandit camp, take what I wanted, and left without a fight. The Defeat's default keyword for a female raping a male is Cowgirl. And technically, men are very eager, so it isn't rape Unless you shove a strappy up their backdoor, and most don't want that... LOL - "You like shoving it up my backdoor, it's your turn! See how it feels!" - But even funnier when my girl uses a strappy on the guy in the aggressive Missionary scene, guess she's trying to turn him into a her... On a serious note. If you added doggy style, or other keywords, The Aggressor is always in the top position from sexlab it's self. And the only way I know of to remove the added keywords from defeat, is to remove defeat, clean save, reinstall... The keyword selections don't seem to have a way to remove, only add keywords at this time. You can add Sexlab Tools, I use it for changing Animation types via keyword, and changing the scene by name using current keyword selection, Sexlab has a position selector that you can use to swap positions... if they didn'tconsent, it's still rape.
Airianna Posted May 24, 2017 Posted May 24, 2017 if they didn'tconsent, it's still rape. I know! I just had to be silly with it.
volanthh Posted May 24, 2017 Posted May 24, 2017 Am I the only one that finds it a little weird that if I'm running Simple Slavery integration and get defeated by a creature, I can wake up at a slave auction? Like did the wolf/bear/whatever drag me all the way to Riften?
Airianna Posted May 24, 2017 Posted May 24, 2017 Am I the only one that finds it a little weird that if I'm running Simple Slavery integration and get defeated by a creature, I can wake up at a slave auction? Like did the wolf/bear/whatever drag me all the way to Riften? In Defeat, SimpleSlavery option... Enemy Faction only will eliminate that problem... Also, If you are sent somewhere, and get defeated without that option ticked, Then everyone and everything can send you back to the auction.
jfraser Posted May 25, 2017 Posted May 25, 2017 Am I the only one that finds it a little weird that if I'm running Simple Slavery integration and get defeated by a creature, I can wake up at a slave auction? Like did the wolf/bear/whatever drag me all the way to Riften?the way I look at it is, you were left for dead by the creature and someone found you, realised you were still alive, and decided to make some quick cash by selling you.
Airianna Posted May 25, 2017 Posted May 25, 2017 Am I the only one that finds it a little weird that if I'm running Simple Slavery integration and get defeated by a creature, I can wake up at a slave auction? Like did the wolf/bear/whatever drag me all the way to Riften?the way I look at it is, you were left for dead by the creature and someone found you, realised you were still alive, and decided to make some quick cash by selling you. Don't forget, getting sent to a place like Raven Beak Prison, you fight... If you loose, you get raped and sent back to the auction. If the "Enemy Faction Only" option is missing that X... Also, if that happens, you loose ALL your gear you previously had taken away. *Happened to me the first time I made it there...*
ZoanChrome Posted May 25, 2017 Posted May 25, 2017 I've had this issue... 3 things to try in order... 1- Open Defeat's MCM, General tab, Clean up. 2- Bring up the list, and do a full clean. Clean Tied, Clean Knockout, Clean. (Was it a power or just a hotkey to bring up the message box?) 3- Reinstalling Defeat, overwriting all should fix the issue with the bandit no longer just standing there. - If not, then there is a conflict with another mod. - Stop combat gets stuck - I have gone all the way from Riften to Solitude, without a single enemy on the roads, Just walk past everyone without a worry of being attacked... Enter a bandit camp, take what I wanted, and left without a fight. The Defeat's default keyword for a female raping a male is Cowgirl. And technically, men are very eager, so it isn't rape Unless you shove a strappy up their backdoor, and most don't want that... LOL - "You like shoving it up my backdoor, it's your turn! See how it feels!" - But even funnier when my girl uses a strappy on the guy in the aggressive Missionary scene, guess she's trying to turn him into a her... On a serious note. If you added doggy style, or other keywords, The Aggressor is always in the top position from sexlab it's self. And the only way I know of to remove the added keywords from defeat, is to remove defeat, clean save, reinstall... The keyword selections don't seem to have a way to remove, only add keywords at this time. You can add Sexlab Tools, I use it for changing Animation types via keyword, and changing the scene by name using current keyword selection, Sexlab has a position selector that you can use to swap positions... Unfortunately, it's still the same even after I tried those steps, but other than victim, every bandit in the cave still hostile Here's complete record of how it's all happened: 1. if I try to sneak up behind the male bandit with weapons drawn and pressing G, the male bandit yield, told to undress and proceed to rape (yeah he won't resist) --> the scene starts with my female char putting a strap on, and proceed to rape the male bandit, while male bandit bend over in female role, after that I press ' = ' (switch position between actors), proceed until the end of scenes and the male bandit just standing there, no exhaustion or trauma animation (lying on the ground), still naked, non hostile, just talk like a good non hostile NPC when pressed E, won't attack back if hit (also the hostile marker in compass and health bar disappeared right after i hit him) but still yell "I will gut you down like a horker" Also all the other bandits in cave still hostile to me, and the male bandit just standing there.... naked. 2. if I try to knocked him down (by bashing with weapons) -->The male bandit knocked down, the option shows up when E is pressed, proceed to rape, my female char take female role and the male bandit take the male role like everything is normal till the end of the scenes, after raped, the male bandit lay on the ground exhausted, and the option shows up when E is pressed, like normal So I think female/male animation settings in player/follower aggressor has nothing to do with sneak and G with weapons drawn, then so which settings was called when that happens? Sexual assault? and yes, I turn on female first in both female/male and sexual assault animation settings, might try to enable it on other settings too Unfortunately, it's still the same even after I tried those steps, but other than victim, every bandit in the cave still hostile
Airianna Posted May 25, 2017 Posted May 25, 2017 I've had this issue... 3 things to try in order... 1- Open Defeat's MCM, General tab, Clean up. 2- Bring up the list, and do a full clean. Clean Tied, Clean Knockout, Clean. (Was it a power or just a hotkey to bring up the message box?) 3- Reinstalling Defeat, overwriting all should fix the issue with the bandit no longer just standing there. - If not, then there is a conflict with another mod. - Stop combat gets stuck - I have gone all the way from Riften to Solitude, without a single enemy on the roads, Just walk past everyone without a worry of being attacked... Enter a bandit camp, take what I wanted, and left without a fight. The Defeat's default keyword for a female raping a male is Cowgirl. And technically, men are very eager, so it isn't rape Unless you shove a strappy up their backdoor, and most don't want that... LOL - "You like shoving it up my backdoor, it's your turn! See how it feels!" - But even funnier when my girl uses a strappy on the guy in the aggressive Missionary scene, guess she's trying to turn him into a her... On a serious note. If you added doggy style, or other keywords, The Aggressor is always in the top position from sexlab it's self. And the only way I know of to remove the added keywords from defeat, is to remove defeat, clean save, reinstall... The keyword selections don't seem to have a way to remove, only add keywords at this time. You can add Sexlab Tools, I use it for changing Animation types via keyword, and changing the scene by name using current keyword selection, Sexlab has a position selector that you can use to swap positions... Sorry for not telling that after the scene ends, the male victim just satnding there, become not hostile, and didn't even lied on the ground (exhausted or trauma), he just talk like a good non hostile npc when interacted (defeat menu should have pop up if the victim is exhausted or in trauma) Unfortunately, it's still the same even after I tried those steps, but other than victim, every bandit in the cave still hostile Couple of questions come to mind. Does he keep saying things like "I yield" and try to stay away? - Fear effect from other choice. See if it happens to other bandits after you tried the previous fixes. Might have to just kill him as a stuck NPC. End his miserable life. And of course, can't stop there, have to make a joke. "It's possible he never had sex, and you made him change his ways,or because it was the best sex he every had, and hoping you come back for more!"
ZoanChrome Posted May 25, 2017 Posted May 25, 2017 Couple of questions come to mind. Does he keep saying things like "I yield" and try to stay away? - Fear effect from other choice. See if it happens to other bandits after you tried the previous fixes. Might have to just kill him as a stuck NPC. End his miserable life. And of course, can't stop there, have to make a joke. "It's possible he never had sex, and you made him change his ways,or because it was the best sex he every had, and hoping you come back for more!" Sorry for too long editing my last post take a look at it too see the full record Does he keep saying I yield nad try to stay away? yes, if I knocked him thru battles (bashing weapons,etc) and no, thru sneak weapons out and G dialogue and yes, i killed him without crash or anything, just dead...while naked. ah, also player as victim (with creature or humans, more than one or not) works normal, dunno about follower as aggressor or victim too, haven't reach whiterun yet (yes, I begin a new save game, clean new game, then I use mods which f*cked a lot of things up and require 3 days to fix, until i got to this problem) joke aside, unfortunately maybe he doesn't feel that way, he just say "hello" and "good day" and continue staring at space, rather than "What do you want? Rape me again? don't you have enough?" or "That wasn't feel bad, can we do it again sometime?" maybe he is thinking "What have i done? She rape me and I didn't even fight back, well it's kinda feel good butdamn what should i do now, I fail as a bandit.."
Airianna Posted May 25, 2017 Posted May 25, 2017 Couple of questions come to mind. Does he keep saying things like "I yield" and try to stay away? - Fear effect from other choice. See if it happens to other bandits after you tried the previous fixes. Might have to just kill him as a stuck NPC. End his miserable life. And of course, can't stop there, have to make a joke. "It's possible he never had sex, and you made him change his ways,or because it was the best sex he every had, and hoping you come back for more!" Sorry for too long editing my last post take a look at it too see the full record Does he keep saying I yield nad try to stay away? yes, if I knocked him thru battles (bashing weapons,etc) and no, thru sneak weapons out and G dialogue and yes, i killed him without crash or anything, just dead...while naked. ah, also player as victim (with creature or humans, more than one or not) works normal, dunno about follower as aggressor or victim too, haven't reach whiterun yet (yes, I begin a new save game, clean new game, then I use mods which f*cked a lot of things up and require 3 days to fix, until i got to this problem) joke aside, unfortunately maybe he doesn't feel that way, he just say "hello" and "good day" and continue staring at space, rather than "What do you want? Rape me again? don't you have enough?" or "That wasn't feel bad, can we do it again sometime?" maybe he is thinking "What have i done? She rape me and I didn't even fight back, well it's kinda feel good butdamn what should i do now, I fail as a bandit.." So everything works now again? It was just that one who was glitched by the sounds of it.Maybe do another Defeat Cleanup now that he is dead, just to be sure.
ZoanChrome Posted May 25, 2017 Posted May 25, 2017 So everything works now again? It was just that one who was glitched by the sounds of it.Maybe do another Defeat Cleanup now that he is dead, just to be sure. No, sorry for confusing details and bad grammar The only glitched one is the yield method (when my female char sneak up a male bandit with weapons drawn and press G) my female char take the role of male (with strap on) while the male take the role of woman and after the rape, the male bandit just standing there still naked, no trauma or exhaustion animation, no hostile anymore, talks when pressing E instead of exhausted/trauma options. If I rape him thru knocked down from battle, everything goes as intended. If I lose on purpose (player as victim), everything goes as intended. only when my char try to rape the male bandit thru 'Sneak with weapons out and press G' then the animations goes wrong.
Airianna Posted May 25, 2017 Posted May 25, 2017 So everything works now again? It was just that one who was glitched by the sounds of it.Maybe do another Defeat Cleanup now that he is dead, just to be sure. No, sorry for confusing details and bad grammar The only glitched one is the yield method (when my female char sneak up a male bandit with weapons drawn and press G) my female char take the role of male (with strap on) while the male take the role of woman and after the rape, the male bandit just standing there still naked, no trauma or exhaustion animation, no hostile anymore, talks when pressing E instead of exhausted/trauma options. If I rape him thru knocked down from battle, everything goes as intended. If I lose on purpose (player as victim), everything goes as intended. only when my char try to rape the male bandit thru 'Sneak with weapons out and press G' then the animations goes wrong. That is the general becase, as aggressor always takes the male role for Defeat. You can try to be sure these are also set to Female First.
ZoanChrome Posted May 25, 2017 Posted May 25, 2017 That is the general becase, as aggressor always takes the male role for Defeat. You can try to be sure these are also set to Female First. 20170524230930_1.jpg Alright, sorry for the ruckus and thanks Airianna for reminding me about Consensual from the image. I was in the shower, when this thought hit my head: I remember that Goubo have said a long time ago. "There are never Consensual animation played if it's Player Aggressor or Player as Victim" Then I realize, All the sex scenes triggered by my char 'sneaking up with weapons drawn and press G' has Consensual played, which means it's different from Player / Follower Aggressor because the male bandit DIDN'T RESIST, therefore it's a normal sex scene (consensual + sex). Then I realize again that my female put a strap on in a Consensual animation and I press ' = ' right after it starts so I didn't know whether it affects the sex scene too, then that means I need to enable female first in Consensual. But in Consensual Female/Male settings Female First is already checked, which means the Consensual Sex settings (in Airianna 1st pic) is the one used because it's not already checked when the glitch happens. Also when the sex start after consensual, the tags used is cowgirl, while i already removed tags used in Player/Follower Aggressor Female/Male settings, then I check at Consensual again in Female/Male tags, Cowgirl is selected. Which means Consensual tags Override the Player/Follower Aggressor tags since it's a normal sex Conclusion: Female Player/Follower Aggresor with Male npc as Victim using 'sneaking up with weapons drawn and press G' will trigger a Normal Sex (Consensual + Sex) with: Consensual Sex Tags settings used as Consensual deciding Tags Consensual Female/Male Tags settings as Sex deciding Tags This theory may prove wrong or not, but at least it's what happened to me Ah and Yes, the Bandit Male still standing, non hostile, no trauma or exhaustion animation, talks like non hostile when pressing E instead of exhausted/trauma options fixed by using clean up feature from menu (press 0), kinda sad not to see him trauma or exhausted so i can rape him again, oh well guess i have to knock him down to do that, hopefully it only happens to this one only. Thanks and Sorry for filling up the thread, bad and confusing grammar (English isn't my native language)
Airianna Posted May 25, 2017 Posted May 25, 2017 That is the general becase, as aggressor always takes the male role for Defeat. You can try to be sure these are also set to Female First. 20170524230930_1.jpg Alright, sorry for the ruckus and thanks Airianna for reminding me about Consensual from the image. I was in the shower, when this thought hit my head: I remember that Goubo have said a long time ago. "There are never Consensual animation played if it's Player Aggressor or Player as Victim" Then I realize, All the sex scenes triggered by my char 'sneaking up with weapons drawn and press G' has Consensual played, which means it's different from Player / Follower Aggressor because the male bandit DIDN'T RESIST, therefore it's a normal sex scene (consensual + sex). Then I realize again that my female put a strap on in a Consensual animation and I press ' = ' right after it starts so I didn't know whether it affects the sex scene too, then that means I need to enable female first in Consensual. But in Consensual Female/Male settings Female First is already checked, which means the Consensual Sex settings (in Airianna 1st pic) is the one used because it's not already checked when the glitch happens. Also when the sex start after consensual, the tags used is cowgirl, while i already removed tags used in Player/Follower Aggressor Female/Male settings, then I check at Consensual again in Female/Male tags, Cowgirl is selected. Which means Consensual tags Override the Player/Follower Aggressor tags since it's a normal sex Conclusion: Female Player/Follower Aggresor with Male npc as Victim using 'sneaking up with weapons drawn and press G' will trigger a Normal Sex (Consensual + Sex) with: Consensual Sex Tags settings used as Consensual deciding Tags Consensual Female/Male Tags settings as Sex deciding Tags This theory may prove wrong or not, but at least it's what happened to me Ah and Yes, the Bandit Male still standing, non hostile, no trauma or exhaustion animation, talks like non hostile when pressing E instead of exhausted/trauma options fixed by using clean up feature from menu (press 0), kinda sad not to see him trauma or exhausted so i can rape him again, oh well guess i have to knock him down to do that, hopefully it only happens to this one only. Thanks and Sorry for filling up the thread, bad and confusing grammar (English isn't my native language) I am glad you are able to use English, because that is the only language I actually know. I would have to use a translator, that can be wrong with what I am trying to say. And translators can cause other miscommunication, and anger between each other. Because he is non hostile, you can then sheath weapons, sneak up behind him, and use aggressive key to put him in knockdown state. Rape him, and then he will go into other state for exhaustion. *I changed it to 4 myself, making it easier to hit, and surrender I never use in combat to keypad 8, so I can make gold from guards*
shiagwen Posted May 27, 2017 Posted May 27, 2017 How many times did i start a game with defeat ? i didnt count it. but now, first time, it does not install itself. any ideas why?
SkyDawn85 Posted May 28, 2017 Posted May 28, 2017 Okay I am having a problem with the download, there's 2 files here, one is the SL Defeat v5.3.5.rar but it turns into SL Defeat v5.3.5.solitaire.theme8 for some reason, then there's another file called #!v0IQzKZQ!cNcPd4mdR0feJjXD95unDJrrzgzMUeuDlVL3rcceckY, am I missing something here? or am I being hacked?
Airianna Posted May 28, 2017 Posted May 28, 2017 How many times did i start a game with defeat ? i didnt count it. but now, first time, it does not install itself. any ideas why? 1) There are some issues from other mods that don't use the MCM correctly, and cause it to hang up. 2) You did not activate SL first, then Defeat... Did you recently swap out mods, thinking they are better? Did you forget to install some mod that helps when your load order gets larger? There are a number of reasons this can happen. You just have to go back through and remember what you tried to install when it stopped working. Okay I am having a problem with the download, there's 2 files here, one is the SL Defeat v5.3.5.rar but it turns into SL Defeat v5.3.5.solitaire.theme8 for some reason, then there's another file called #!v0IQzKZQ!cNcPd4mdR0feJjXD95unDJrrzgzMUeuDlVL3rcceckY, am I missing something here? or am I being hacked? 5.3.5 is most current, the long keycode looking file thing is a link to another site as a mirror to download from. Opening solitaire, is because you have solitaire installed. Remove solitaire, and reinstall 7zip... If you do not wish to remove your solitaire program, right click on the file, and open with WinZip or 7zip. And try to set to Always open with this program.
SkyDawn85 Posted May 28, 2017 Posted May 28, 2017 thanks for the help! I uninstalled solitare and reinstalled winrar and it worked!
kleinstaff Posted May 29, 2017 Posted May 29, 2017 ffS change your download to a zip file i am probably not the only one who wasted a few hours tryung to get arounf rgis solitaire theme link while trying to dl this mod ffS change your download to a zip file i am probably not the only one who wasted a few hours tryung to get arounf rgis solitaire theme link while trying to dl this mod
LazyBoot Posted May 29, 2017 Posted May 29, 2017 ffS change your download to a zip file i am probably not the only one who wasted a few hours tryung to get arounf rgis solitaire theme link while trying to dl this mod ffS change your download to a zip file i am probably not the only one who wasted a few hours tryung to get arounf rgis solitaire theme link while trying to dl this mod Try a different browser. And make sure you have 7-zip or winrar installed.
kleinstaff Posted May 29, 2017 Posted May 29, 2017 already done took me a while to get pass that solitaire theme ug anywat ice to see this mod is still running smoothly after all these years it hascome along ay remembering it first versions
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