SexLab Defeat

[D_ManXX2]

Goubo was wondering if this known issue, but the redress in your mcm is not functioning. even if i set it to victim to not redress somehow after a fews seconds of the sexacts the npc is still redressing. I also tried to make it so in sexlab mcm to turn this option off but the redress still occurs is this currently broken ??

[Ironstarmlp]

when I download the link I get a solitaire theme? help please

[barak43]

when I download the link I get a solitaire theme? help please

 

it's a security from windows 10. download from a viewer not made by microsoft like chrome or firefox, and make sure the file is correctly named with .rar

[Klabauter]

Could you please make a mod with only the sack option?

 

I want to use Defeat V5b3.3fixed, because I find it is the only really balanced version I've seen so far (with all the other version I have tested I could take out whole cities at level 1 without anyone doing anything against it), however, it sadly doesn't have a sack option somehow... And the sack is pretty essential for this mod. I think many stealth players would also love to have such a sack option, no matter if they use Defeat or not. There is not a single mod out there which lets you carry NPCs around.

[Guest]

Could you please make a mod with only the sack option?

 

I want to use Defeat V5b3.3fixed, because I find it is the only really balanced version I've seen so far (with all the other version I have tested I could take out whole cities at level 1 without anyone doing anything against it), however, it sadly doesn't have a sack option somehow... And the sack is pretty essential for this mod. I think many stealth players would also love to have such a sack option, no matter if they use Defeat or not. There is not a single mod out there which lets you carry NPCs around.

 

It really pisses me off when peeople ask for old versions to be updated like seriously fuck off.

[Klabauter]

 

Could you please make a mod with only the sack option?

 

I want to use Defeat V5b3.3fixed, because I find it is the only really balanced version I've seen so far (with all the other version I have tested I could take out whole cities at level 1 without anyone doing anything against it), however, it sadly doesn't have a sack option somehow... And the sack is pretty essential for this mod. I think many stealth players would also love to have such a sack option, no matter if they use Defeat or not. There is not a single mod out there which lets you carry NPCs around.

 

It really pisses me off when peeople ask for old versions to be updated like seriously fuck off.

 

I didn't ask for the version to be updated... Can you even read? I asked if he could release a mod with only the sack option, since that's a feature many people already looked for since a long time, anyway. There is not a single mod similar to this, although it fits very well to assassin builds, but whatever.

[Guest]

 

 

Could you please make a mod with only the sack option?

 

I want to use Defeat V5b3.3fixed, because I find it is the only really balanced version I've seen so far (with all the other version I have tested I could take out whole cities at level 1 without anyone doing anything against it), however, it sadly doesn't have a sack option somehow... And the sack is pretty essential for this mod. I think many stealth players would also love to have such a sack option, no matter if they use Defeat or not. There is not a single mod out there which lets you carry NPCs around.

 

It really pisses me off when peeople ask for old versions to be updated like seriously fuck off.

 

I didn't ask for the version to be updated... Can you even read? I asked if he could release a mod with only the sack option, since that's a feature many people already looked for since a long time, anyway. There is not a single mod similar to this, although it fits very well to assassin builds, but whatever.

 

 

I can read yes, you want him to have a mod with only the sack option so technically you want him to make a mod that he has already made. That makes absolutely no sense, if you want a mod like that then you should make it. Do you really think he would do this for you? Honestly he is going to update defeat again here soon in a couple of days I say just wait for that.

[Klabauter]

 

I can read yes, you want him to have a mod with only the sack option so technically you want him to make a mod that he has already made. That makes absolutely no sense, if you want a mod like that then you should make it. Do you really think he would do this for you? Honestly he is going to update defeat again here soon in a couple of days I say just wait for that.

 

I would make it myself, but sadly I am no modder and have absolutely no knowledge about scripting. And it also wouldn't be the same mod he already did. It would be just a tiny part of it, which is something modders release pretty often, when people only want certain parts of their mods or a light version or something.

 

I didn't know it was forbidden here to ask modders for things they could perhaps do. But anyway... Waiting for the next version of the mod seems to make no sense to me, since the author (at least on my end) doesn't seem to care much about gameplay balance in the latest versions. This is not a critic, but it just doesn't fit my playstyle when I easily can kill every cititzen I want at level 1 already. 

[tazdotnet]

everything in this mod that effects "balance" can be adjusted in the MCM so your conclusion that the author "does not care" does not make sense

[LukeDuke]

I think that this mod conflicts with Heart Breaker mod, when I have both installed and dialog (menu) prompt is show only Defeat ''actions'' works when I select them [for example rape or rob), but not the one from Heart Breaker if I choose them.

[barak43]

 

 

I can read yes, you want him to have a mod with only the sack option so technically you want him to make a mod that he has already made. That makes absolutely no sense, if you want a mod like that then you should make it. Do you really think he would do this for you? Honestly he is going to update defeat again here soon in a couple of days I say just wait for that.

 

I would make it myself, but sadly I am no modder and have absolutely no knowledge about scripting. And it also wouldn't be the same mod he already did. It would be just a tiny part of it, which is something modders release pretty often, when people only want certain parts of their mods or a light version or something.

 

I didn't know it was forbidden here to ask modders for things they could perhaps do. But anyway... Waiting for the next version of the mod seems to make no sense to me, since the author (at least on my end) doesn't seem to care much about gameplay balance in the latest versions. This is not a critic, but it just doesn't fit my playstyle when I easily can kill every cititzen I want at level 1 already. 

 

 

ok, as a mod author myself, i can tell this. we don't mind people asking for new feature as long as it's ask nicely. we might not do it, but it's always good.

 

asking a mod author if he can make a lighter version with only a few things can be done too. he might do it or not, but it's not a problem to ask.

 

however, no matter what, respect is a must have. we are a community, and even if we disagree with someone or not see the point of something asked, not respecting other people shouldn't be done.

 

that being said, learning how to make a mod is possible, even with no knowledge of it all. most mod authors started without knowledge, just with the will to do it. if you feel you can't do it for whatever raison you can ask indeed if someone feel like doing it

 

Anyway, Defeat is a great mod that you can configure a lot to your liking. Goubo is not responsible for keeping your game balanced however. it's your responsibility to use the options he give in the mod to make that famous balance. and if you can't get what you want/need, then you can ask nicely for it, and if it can't be done for whatever, just go look for other mods and don't bad mouth anyone. (i don't know anything more useless than badmouthing)

 

that was my word of wisdom (or not ? o_o), no one should take what i said personally, just telling a general truth that came in my mind from seeing all this ^^,

[Klabauter]

 

 

ok, as a mod author myself, i can tell this. we don't mind people asking for new feature as long as it's ask nicely. we might not do it, but it's always good.

 

asking a mod author if he can make a lighter version with only a few things can be done too. he might do it or not, but it's not a problem to ask.

 

however, no matter what, respect is a must have. we are a community, and even if we disagree with someone or not see the point of something asked, not respecting other people shouldn't be done.

 

that being said, learning how to make a mod is possible, even with no knowledge of it all. most mod authors started without knowledge, just with the will to do it. if you feel you can't do it for whatever raison you can ask indeed if someone feel like doing it

 

Anyway, Defeat is a great mod that you can configure a lot to your liking. Goubo is not responsible for keeping your game balanced however. it's your responsibility to use the options he give in the mod to make that famous balance. and if you can't get what you want/need, then you can ask nicely for it, and if it can't be done for whatever, just go look for other mods and don't bad mouth anyone. (i don't know anything more useless than badmouthing)

 

that was my word of wisdom (or not ? o_o), no one should take what i said personally, just telling a general truth that came in my mind from seeing all this ^^,

 

Why are you telling me I should not badmouth anyone? Where did I badmouth anyone please? I was just saying the v5b3.3fixed was the only version which had good balance for me. And again, this is not even critic. I know many people rather find such restrictions annoying in their game, or just don't care about it. 

 

Also, like I already said, perhaps this is just on my end the case, and there is some mysterious mistake in my load order or whatever, but in all the other versions I can assault people in front of everyone, and don't get a bounty, nor does the assault ever fail. You have options in the MCM for the chances that an assault fails, but even on lowest chance setting (100%), it never fails for me, somehow. I just can assault anyone I want, in front of everybody, put them in a sack, and kill whole cities like this.

 

If there is anything I haven't noticed to make this more balanced then please tell, but I already tried everything, and nothing worked for me.

 

 

[barak43]

 

 

 

ok, as a mod author myself, i can tell this. we don't mind people asking for new feature as long as it's ask nicely. we might not do it, but it's always good.

 

asking a mod author if he can make a lighter version with only a few things can be done too. he might do it or not, but it's not a problem to ask.

 

however, no matter what, respect is a must have. we are a community, and even if we disagree with someone or not see the point of something asked, not respecting other people shouldn't be done.

 

that being said, learning how to make a mod is possible, even with no knowledge of it all. most mod authors started without knowledge, just with the will to do it. if you feel you can't do it for whatever raison you can ask indeed if someone feel like doing it

 

Anyway, Defeat is a great mod that you can configure a lot to your liking. Goubo is not responsible for keeping your game balanced however. it's your responsibility to use the options he give in the mod to make that famous balance. and if you can't get what you want/need, then you can ask nicely for it, and if it can't be done for whatever, just go look for other mods and don't bad mouth anyone. (i don't know anything more useless than badmouthing)

 

that was my word of wisdom (or not ? o_o), no one should take what i said personally, just telling a general truth that came in my mind from seeing all this ^^,

 

Why are you telling me I should not badmouth anyone? Where did I badmouth anyone please? I was just saying the v5b3.3fixed was the only version which had good balance for me. And again, this is not even critic. I know many people rather find such restrictions annoying in their game, or just don't care about it. 

 

Also, like I already said, perhaps this is just on my end the case, and there is some mysterious mistake in my load order or whatever, but in all the other versions I can assault people in front of everyone, and don't get a bounty, nor does the assault ever fail. You have options in the MCM for the chances that an assault fails, but even on lowest chance setting (100%), it never fails for me, somehow. I just can assault anyone I want, in front of everybody, put them in a sack, and kill whole cities like this.

 

If there is anything I haven't noticed to make this more balanced then please tell, but I already tried everything, and nothing worked for me.

 

 

i did say = "no one should take what i said personally, just telling a general truth that came in my mind"

 

seems you didn't read everything

 

as for your question about the assault fails, i can't say since i don't use the option, but seems you do have something going wrong (not surprising, with skyrim even vanilla game can go very wrong lol)

 

[Klabauter]

 

 

i did say = "no one should take what i said personally, just telling a general truth that came in my mind"

 

seems you didn't read everything

 

as for your question about the assault fails, i can't say since i don't use the option, but seems you do have something going wrong (not surprising, with skyrim even vanilla game can go very wrong lol)

 

 

I read indeed everything, but you still told me I shouldn't badmouth anyone. Just because you added "don't take it personally", doesn't change this. It's like replying to someone with "you are an asshole", and then just adding "don't take it personally" lol. My ass!

[barak43]

 

 

 

i did say = "no one should take what i said personally, just telling a general truth that came in my mind"

 

seems you didn't read everything

 

as for your question about the assault fails, i can't say since i don't use the option, but seems you do have something going wrong (not surprising, with skyrim even vanilla game can go very wrong lol)

 

 

I read indeed everything, but you still told me I shouldn't badmouth anyone. Just because you added "don't take it personally", doesn't change this. It's like replying to someone with "you are an asshole", and then just adding "don't take it personally" lol. My ass!

 

 

ok, last time i answer this. first calm down. i DIDNT say you badmouthed anyone. that you take it personally is not my fault. i'm speaking in general, because i try to help people when i can in threads i follow, and too often i see people badmouth. now, i hope you get help from other people for your problem. good day (or night lol)

 

[Guest]

 

 

I can read yes, you want him to have a mod with only the sack option so technically you want him to make a mod that he has already made. That makes absolutely no sense, if you want a mod like that then you should make it. Do you really think he would do this for you? Honestly he is going to update defeat again here soon in a couple of days I say just wait for that.

 

I would make it myself, but sadly I am no modder and have absolutely no knowledge about scripting. And it also wouldn't be the same mod he already did. It would be just a tiny part of it, which is something modders release pretty often, when people only want certain parts of their mods or a light version or something.

 

I didn't know it was forbidden here to ask modders for things they could perhaps do. But anyway... Waiting for the next version of the mod seems to make no sense to me, since the author (at least on my end) doesn't seem to care much about gameplay balance in the latest versions. This is not a critic, but it just doesn't fit my playstyle when I easily can kill every cititzen I want at level 1 already. 

 

 

There is nothing wrong with asking I just think its ridiculous that people like yourself stick to old outdated mods I mean sexlab has updated alot since then and you're delusional thinking that the old version is "perfect" and yes there may be problems with the new version but everyone is trying to report bugs and Goubo is working really hard on it.

 

I hate when people use outdated (Unsupported) versions of mods and feel their version still should be supported and catered too. Also what are you talking about defeat is balanced and the newest version assaults don't work %100 of the time and also the crime when assaulting seems to work perfectly fine on my end. If you can kill every person at level 1 that has nothing to do with this mod look into some difficulty mods or something.

[barak43]

let's stop talking about this, it's not helping the thread at all xD

 

all that's important = Thanks Goubo for this great mod and keep the good work

 

btw, i'm not sure it's a bug coming from Defeat, but talking about it anyway in case someone has more info than me.

i made a new profile in MO with the last Defeat, added to my usual mods, and it works pretty well, but in Slaverun Reloaded the enforcer script didn't work.

in another profile that is identical but without Defeat, the enforcer works.

it's probably not related though (in fact i don't see how it could be related lol). i'll try to look more into it ^^,

[Trickle]

"I can kill everyone at level 1"

 

Don't do that.

[lamegoat]

hey guys, i'm having a problem where i press the surrender key and nothing happens. i hear the "i submit" voice play, the mobs stop, and the hud disappears for a second, but it comes back on and the mobs attack me like they just realized i'm there. the only time defeat actually kicks in is when i get knocked down.

before installing a bunch of other mods (like sanguine's debauchery+), it worked, so i'm guessing somewhere down the line i fucked it up? can anyone help me with this?

[barak43]

hey guys, i'm having a problem where i press the surrender key and nothing happens. i hear the "i submit" voice play, the mobs stop, and the hud disappears for a second, but it comes back on and the mobs attack me like they just realized i'm there. the only time defeat actually kicks in is when i get knocked down.

 

before installing a bunch of other mods (like sanguine's debauchery+), it worked, so i'm guessing somewhere down the line i fucked it up? can anyone help me with this?

 

ok, look first if the surrender key isn't used by another mod you have too. it could come from that.

 

you could also go to a save prior the add of the mods if you have one, and add one mod at a time again, testing if it works.

 

if all else fail, you can show us your load order and the papyrus log ^^,

[lamegoat]

 

hey guys, i'm having a problem where i press the surrender key and nothing happens. i hear the "i submit" voice play, the mobs stop, and the hud disappears for a second, but it comes back on and the mobs attack me like they just realized i'm there. the only time defeat actually kicks in is when i get knocked down.

 

before installing a bunch of other mods (like sanguine's debauchery+), it worked, so i'm guessing somewhere down the line i fucked it up? can anyone help me with this?

 

ok, look first if the surrender key isn't used by another mod you have too. it could come from that.

 

you could also go to a save prior the add of the mods if you have one, and add one mod at a time again, testing if it works.

 

if all else fail, you can show us your load order and the papyrus log ^^,

 

sorry but...what's a papyrus log?

[barak43]

 

 

hey guys, i'm having a problem where i press the surrender key and nothing happens. i hear the "i submit" voice play, the mobs stop, and the hud disappears for a second, but it comes back on and the mobs attack me like they just realized i'm there. the only time defeat actually kicks in is when i get knocked down.

 

before installing a bunch of other mods (like sanguine's debauchery+), it worked, so i'm guessing somewhere down the line i fucked it up? can anyone help me with this?

 

ok, look first if the surrender key isn't used by another mod you have too. it could come from that.

 

you could also go to a save prior the add of the mods if you have one, and add one mod at a time again, testing if it works.

 

if all else fail, you can show us your load order and the papyrus log ^^,

 

sorry but...what's a papyrus log?

 

 

it's a file that write down errors and events. most mod authors send debug events to it to help knowing what happens.

 

you find it in your Documents\My Games\Skyrim\Logs\Script folder.

Papyrus.0.log is the one you need ^^

 

if you don't see any file, you need to activate it in that case =

 

first, what mod manager do you use ?

 

- if NMM, you'll find the file Skyrim.ini in

Documents\My Games\Skyrim

 

- if MO, you'll find it on the top of MO, click on Tools, then INI editor.

 

in both case, add those lines and save =

[Papyrus]
fUpdateBudgetMS=1.6
fPostLoadUpdateTimeMS=500.0
bEnableLogging=1
bEnableTrace=1
bLoadDebugInformation=1

[Hypno]

For those who wonder, yes there is an update coming soon, tomorrow or middle of the next week depending of my free time this week end, important fixes and some new cool stuff especially for the player victim part.

 

Constantly checking for this everyday since the post lol

[Mondaiji]

 

For those who wonder, yes there is an update coming soon, tomorrow or middle of the next week depending of my free time this week end, important fixes and some new cool stuff especially for the player victim part.

 

Constantly checking for this everyday since the post lol

 

 

You are not alone.

[Goubo]

Ok I'm sorry Ive been super busy recently, but I had some time to work on the update and I begin to see the end of it, I have some time to work on it tomorrow so it's coming.

I shouldn't put a release date I'm always late and it makes people expecting it even more, sorry about that.

 

Goubo was wondering if this known issue, but the redress in your mcm is not functioning. even if i set it to victim to not redress somehow after a fews seconds of the sexacts the npc is still redressing. I also tried to make it so in sexlab mcm to turn this option off but the redress still occurs is this currently broken ??

The redress should work fine, this function has nothing to do with the one from SexLab and will register any unequiped pieces and put them back on the npc if the corresponding option is enabled at the end of their state. (knockdown/exhausted/escape etc) 

 

I know I fixed a bug where followers would redress and undress between collateral turns but I did not touch anything else about this function, I'll make some tests to see if it works as intended.

 

Could you please make a mod with only the sack option?

 

I want to use Defeat V5b3.3fixed, because I find it is the only really balanced version I've seen so far (with all the other version I have tested I could take out whole cities at level 1 without anyone doing anything against it), however, it sadly doesn't have a sack option somehow... And the sack is pretty essential for this mod. I think many stealth players would also love to have such a sack option, no matter if they use Defeat or not. There is not a single mod out there which lets you carry NPCs around.

Instead of this can you tell me how I should balance it?

I know it's easy to knockdown with it now and the crime part could be improved (pain in the ass to handle the crime in this game!)

 

And no I'll not make a seperate mod for the sack, you can already disable every part of the mod (in your case you can disable player victim/npc vs npc) so there is really no reason at all to seperate the features.