superdog Posted June 5, 2015 Posted June 5, 2015 So what's the "REAL" install order for this mod. I notice he has a recommended mod list, but are those actually "recommended" or are they required? It is hard to imagine sex animations playing out without ZaZ's sex animation pack... unless the mod comes with its own animations? I notice this: -------------------- RecommendedDevious Capture By Ms LeechesZaz Animation Pack By Zaz & XazDeath Alternative By BralorMarrEFF - Extensible Follower Framework By Expired - Very good mod to handle followers.UIExtension by Expired Note : This mod is already included in Extensible Follower Framework. Do I install those mods in that specific order and then his mod? Also, I notice this: Defeat V5b3.3fixed.rar and this: SexLab - Defeat V5.1.0.rar ... which one? his changelog mentions nothing about 5b 3.3 Im just trying to get clarification here. Thank you all in advance.
Slorm Posted June 5, 2015 Posted June 5, 2015 So what's the "REAL" install order for this mod. I notice he has a recommended mod list, but are those actually "recommended" or are they required? It is hard to imagine sex animations playing out without ZaZ's sex animation pack... unless the mod comes with its own animations? I notice this: -------------------- Recommended Devious Capture By Ms Leeches Zaz Animation Pack By Zaz & Xaz Death Alternative By BralorMarr EFF - Extensible Follower Framework By Expired - Very good mod to handle followers. UIExtension by Expired Note : This mod is already included in Extensible Follower Framework. Do I install those mods in that specific order and then his mod? Also, I notice this: Defeat V5b3.3fixed.rar and this: SexLab - Defeat V5.1.0.rar ... which one? his changelog mentions nothing about 5b 3.3 Im just trying to get clarification here. Thank you all in advance. Recommended is just that "recommended" you don't need them to run Defeat but they interact well with it. V5.1.0 is the latest version but personally I found it caused some CTD's and a problem of losing control of the pc if moved to an Inn, so I still use the older V5b3.3fixed which has always worked well for me. However others have had different results and also bear in mind I only use it for "Player as Victim". The upshot is keep a save game from before installing Defeat and try out the latest version, if you have problems then uninstall and try the earlier version.
kiluj Posted June 5, 2015 Posted June 5, 2015 Hi, I installed this mod, and tried to surrender to bandit using K button. After the bandit removed my clothes, game just crushed...
Kwengie Posted June 5, 2015 Posted June 5, 2015 Hi, what must I do, when my Character is sitting after a rape? I can`t do anything...
lobof Posted June 5, 2015 Posted June 5, 2015 Hi, I installed this mod, and tried to surrender to bandit using K button. After the bandit removed my clothes, game just crushed... can you remove your clothes yourself without crashing? could be skeleton issue, you may need a custom skeleton like xp32 at http://www.loverslab.com/files/file/676-xp32-maximum-skeleton-extended/ hard to tell if that was it you gave no mod list/papyrus log/if it worked before... more info would help :-)
kiluj Posted June 5, 2015 Posted June 5, 2015 can you remove your clothes yourself without crashing? could be skeleton issue, you may need a custom skeleton like xp32 at http://www.loverslab.com/files/file/676-xp32-maximum-skeleton-extended/ hard to tell if that was it you gave no mod list/papyrus log/if it worked before... more info would help :-) Actually, I installed only the mods which are required. Sexlab, FNIS, SKSE, SkyUI, Unifficial Skyrim patch. Plus SOS. And SexLabDefeat, of course. That's all. And yes, i can remove my clothes
nutluck Posted June 5, 2015 Posted June 5, 2015 can you remove your clothes yourself without crashing? could be skeleton issue, you may need a custom skeleton like xp32 at http://www.loverslab.com/files/file/676-xp32-maximum-skeleton-extended/ hard to tell if that was it you gave no mod list/papyrus log/if it worked before... more info would help :-) Actually, I installed only the mods which are required. Sexlab, FNIS, SKSE, SkyUI, Unifficial Skyrim patch. Plus SOS. And SexLabDefeat, of course. That's all. And yes, i can remove my clothes A skeleton is a sexlab requirement.
kiluj Posted June 5, 2015 Posted June 5, 2015 A skeleton is a sexlab requirement. Well, I installed XP32. Still crushed.
nutluck Posted June 5, 2015 Posted June 5, 2015 You should have installed XPMS extended. Which you can find on this page. http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/26800/? Also after you install the skeleton be sure to run FNIS again.
kiluj Posted June 5, 2015 Posted June 5, 2015 You should have installed XPMS extended. Which you can find on this page. http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/26800/? Also after you install the skeleton be sure to run FNIS again. I believe that's the same:). And i used FNIS again.
lobof Posted June 5, 2015 Posted June 5, 2015 A skeleton is a sexlab requirement. Well, I installed XP32. Still crushed. did you add all the skeleton requirements of xp32/xpms if you run groovtama's its requirements are on page i gave on last post the nexus page by xp32 has the requirment of Realistic Ragdolls and Force by dDefinder http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/601/? make sure you have all requirements sometimes it's hard to find where the mod author place the requirements on page did fnis give any errors ?
Badneibours Posted June 5, 2015 Posted June 5, 2015 Hmm so still no fix to the problem with being unable to bag NPC's?
kiluj Posted June 5, 2015 Posted June 5, 2015 did you add all the skeleton requirements of xp32/xpms if you run groovtama's its requirements are on page i gave on last post the nexus page by xp32 has the requirment of Realistic Ragdolls and Force by dDefinder http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/601/? make sure you have all requirements sometimes it's hard to find where the mod author place the requirements on page did fnis give any errors ? i installed these requirements: SKSE 1.7.2 Realistic Ragdolls and Force by dDefinder Fores New Idles in Skyrim 5.4.1 Racemenu 3.2.2 I do not see any errors... it's just crashing instead of animation.
dhkLover Posted June 5, 2015 Posted June 5, 2015 I'm experiencing weird AI behavior when my character surrenders. They just knock her down and then the guy who did the knocking down just gets up and start walking away from my character. In other instances the game simply crashes once the aggressor starts undressing my character. Since installing this mod the surrender option worked only once but I have to say it worked out nicely. The victim was stripped, assaulted and then after the scene ended she got up and ran away whilst covering her private regions (but sadly that happened only once). You are giving a lot of attention to detail which is commendable. I just thought I should put this out there for your reference. P.S. I have all the prerequisites installed and I followed the Installation Instructions to the letter.
Findri Posted June 6, 2015 Posted June 6, 2015 Hi Goubo, I wanted to sugest an option to prevent player from dying or taking damage after certain tresshold if it is possible... Since often the scripts take too long to start doing work and most of the time player just dies instead of surrender or submiting..... TY for you time This is the main reason Death Alternative is suggested, I believe. Since it will stop you from dying and put you in a bleedout state. Defeat has a way of allowing you to still be knocked down for an event to start while you're in a bleedout state from DA. Oh never thought it that way... Ill give it a shot thank you!
Cronoslav Posted June 6, 2015 Posted June 6, 2015 Be nice if you could surrender as a male character, and let the NPCs use your Followers after tying you up, without submitting yourself to a forced gay scene. If you dont want gay sex, there either has to be a female enemy around to surrender to, or you just dont use the mod at all. An implementation to have a scene continue where they tie up the PC and then just go to the followers for their preference would make this mod very legit. The option to allow anyone to knock you down is helpful, but it doesn't matter since after they knock you down a scene still doesn't take place unless you allow them to not have sexual preference and booty ram you. You'll just be left knocked down, untied and free to recover while they attempt to go after your follower, and will usually make that a very glitchy affair because of the fact a scene isn't taking place with you. My current workaround is just letting myself go down from Death Alternative, or the method stated above, but that makes the mod go pretty wonky from the NPCs beating up my follower, ghetto style, while they're down. Would be awesome if this was taken care of in an update? Just use preference as a means to direct a scene, rather than to see if a scene even begins. PC gets knocked down, tied up, dialogue for payment/etc comes up, same stuff. Then when the fun begins they'll either just go to the followers, or go to the PC as well if the sexuality mandates it. Edit: Well, best workaround right now is to disable Sexuality, but make the PC's chance of being assaulted 0%. The starting dialogue of a scene will go normally, but the AI will always state they're not interested in you and want (whichever follower). However, this means if there are female AI they wont try anything, and you cant experience any of the ending events since the AI will really just leave you there forever until you decide to break out of your binds and kill them. This scenario can happen, keep in mind that the gender combination settings for followers are in NPC vs NPC, so if your char is male and the follower female you need to enable Male vs female in npc vs npc and disable sex settings in player as victim then enable knockdown by everyone. Of course this particular scenario probably need testing but I did think of it when I wrote the code. Also, do not use the sexuality method, as it is for now the sexuality function in SexLab needs to be rewritten, it sets almost everyone as bisexual, Ashal will do it for the next version of SexLab. Yeah, I brought up the few workarounds for it, but they really dont work well overall and they eliminate the possibility for a real 'end' scene and getting any events. I've tested all the combinations this is how it pretty much goes with the NPC vs NPC settings being where they will take your Followers as well: Settings with PC: Sexuality. disabled; Male Allowed, disabled; Female allowed, enabled.Chances of assault 100%. -- Surrender scenario - With this scenario of disabling male aggressors, it becomes impossible to surrender to males, as you're only allowed to surrender to a potential assaulter. If you manage to start the surrender animation, the males will walk to as if a scene will start, but then before any dialogue happens they will draw their weapons and fight again because they can't assault you. Knockdown scenario - After being knocked down and the male see that they cant assault you, you will get up from knockdown and the fight continues. The scene wont even start so you wont have dialogue, wont be tied up, and they wont go after followers. Knockdown is canceled and fight continues. So that makes any scene beginning impossible with these settings. What if there is a female assaulter in the group though? Well, you can surrender to the female and they can knock you down. The problem here is that the males will not join the scene at all, not even to go after your followers. Only females will join the scene. Even if NPC vs NPC settings allow males to go after followers, it doesn't matter if the male cant join the scene because the PC doesn't allow them. ----- Here is the other workaround scenario, the only one that can get a scene to start at least: Settings with PC: Sexuality, disabled; Male Allowed, enabled; Female allowed, enabled; Chance of assault 0% Surrender scenario - You can surrender to male or female. The scene dialogue will start, after negotiations break down they will talk about going after your follower. PC will be tied up, and then left as they go after followers. After the AI are done with your followers they will return to the PC for the usual end scene where it's the PC's turn... but then they will be stuck, because they aren't allowed to assault the PC because of chance being 0%. PC can still escape from binds and try to fight, but you wont ever get to experience any end event... and if you have your weapon stripped you may just end up knocked down again from all the enemies and go into another scene. lol Knockdown scenario - Scene wont happen... it just wont. Enemies will check if you're 'assault-able' on knockdown, so the dialogue never even happens. Once an enemy comes near you as if they're trying to do something, it will fail, you will get up and fight will continue. __ Also, this affects creatures too. If they cant assault PC, that's it, followers wont even be looked at. This is the info I've gotten. I hope it helps if a patch to adjust the scenes and ending for male PCs is ever considered. Maybe just have the enemy talk to the PC at the end when they're all done and knock them out with their weapon and then any event/trauma can happen.
tentail Posted June 6, 2015 Posted June 6, 2015 Does anyone here experience death from after sex because your character fly across the screen and die from falling.
Goubo Posted June 6, 2015 Author Posted June 6, 2015 [...] Ok thanks for the feedback, I'll see for improving this aspect.
Tefajo Posted June 6, 2015 Posted June 6, 2015 Hello Fist of all let me say that this mod is great, is one of my favourites! I am having some issues since the update (from 5b3 to 5.1 that is) after one of my followers gets assaulted: a ) she doesnt get redressed b ) she stays put in place and doesnt follow me anymore. You can dismiss her (she wont go away either) and recruit her again, try disable / enable, use "fix actor" on EFF but the problem continues. (and yes, it happens with any follower and yes, i did start a new game just in case) The "a)" is annoying but easily solved by telling her to reequip armor or just using enable / disable Now, the "b)" issue gets to the point i cant get into a fight and let a follower get raped if i want to keep that follower for future adventures. Any ideas? What information would you like me to post? Again, this did not happen with previous version of defeat and, of course, one possible solution would be to roll back Thank you very much
ShadowAssassin Posted June 6, 2015 Posted June 6, 2015 I'm having a little trouble here. My character just stands there when I choose the rape option on a tied NPC.
superdog Posted June 6, 2015 Posted June 6, 2015 Ok. No matter what i do, this mod will NOT install via NMM. This is the only mod that does this. 1. I have tried redownloading. 2. i have tried repacking (as 7z and zip) What is going on? This is with 5.1 btw. It doesnt look like the mod author wants you to try to install manually...
Slorm Posted June 6, 2015 Posted June 6, 2015 Ok. No matter what i do, this mod will NOT install via NMM. This is the only mod that does this. 1. I have tried redownloading. 2. i have tried repacking (as 7z and zip) What is going on? This is with 5.1 btw. It doesnt look like the mod author wants you to try to install manually... Have you checked it's activated in the plugin tab in NMM. There's a bug in NMM with FOMOD installers, sometimes after running LOOT the mod is deactivated and you have to manually reactivate it in the plugin tab it and run LOOT a second time.
superdog Posted June 6, 2015 Posted June 6, 2015 Ok. No matter what i do, this mod will NOT install via NMM. This is the only mod that does this. 1. I have tried redownloading. 2. i have tried repacking (as 7z and zip) What is going on? This is with 5.1 btw. It doesnt look like the mod author wants you to try to install manually... Have you checked it's activated in the plugin tab in NMM. There's a bug in NMM with FOMOD installers, sometimes after running LOOT the mod is deactivated and you have to manually reactivate it in the plugin tab it and run LOOT a second time. No. What I am saying is... it isnt even in my mod list because it wont install in the first place. There is no esp to activate because it keeps coming up with "this mod was not installed" on the install queue.
superdog Posted June 6, 2015 Posted June 6, 2015 Also, why is it saving as a TGZ file when I download it? Could someone post up on mega or something. I have been having problems downloading from this site recently. Maybe that is why
Slorm Posted June 6, 2015 Posted June 6, 2015 Also, why is it saving as a TGZ file when I download it? Could someone post up on mega or something. I have been having problems downloading from this site recently. Maybe that is why See pm, you may have a corrupt download
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