is Skyrim SE worth it now?

[RonAIronMan]

i admit up front the last time i looked at this game was 5+ years ago, its been a while. se came out and people were making the switch but there were a lot of things that just didnt work right and seem like they never would. hdt and floppy sos? cant do without em. besides it always seemed like to me that skyrim se didnt even really offer anything over oldrim besides it being " new". i mean i saw the screenshots and it didnt look better, just different. so i was never sold on making the switch even if the stuff i used got ported and worked great

 

maybe what im asking is if there are now good reasons to use it over sticking with oldrim sort of like how the last time i checked you could only use important but hi-tech physics mods with oldrim

[shardoom]

1 hour ago, RonAIronMan said:

i admit up front the last time i looked at this game was 5+ years ago, its been a while. se came out and people were making the switch but there were a lot of things that just didnt work right and seem like they never would. hdt and floppy sos? cant do without em. besides it always seemed like to me that skyrim se didnt even really offer anything over oldrim besides it being " new". i mean i saw the screenshots and it didnt look better, just different. so i was never sold on making the switch even if the stuff i used got ported and worked great

 

maybe what im asking is if there are now good reasons to use it over sticking with oldrim sort of like how the last time i checked you could only use important but hi-tech physics mods with oldrim

 

The physics on SE blow anything on LE straight out of the water.

Edited September 6, 2022 by shardoom

[t.ara]

35 minutes ago, shardoom said:

 

The physics on SE blow anything on LE straight out of the water.

 

1 hour ago, RonAIronMan said:

i admit up front the last time i looked at this game was 5+ years ago, its been a while. se came out and people were making the switch but there were a lot of things that just didnt work right and seem like they never would. hdt and floppy sos? cant do without em. besides it always seemed like to me that skyrim se didnt even really offer anything over oldrim besides it being " new". i mean i saw the screenshots and it didnt look better, just different. so i was never sold on making the switch even if the stuff i used got ported and worked great

 

maybe what im asking is if there are now good reasons to use it over sticking with oldrim sort of like how the last time i checked you could only use important but hi-tech physics mods with oldrim

...can be used both onto your computer...anyway is SE not allowing to run HDT-PE physics which has some technical advantages over SMP, simply some technical details, which  tinsel-smp does not allow...because it is a dedicated CLOTHING-PHYSICS.

SE is nice for mostly everything if you want to have it little more complexer: ...more complex setup, a nice version-war on all their mod-download-pages, different physics-mods....a very bad delayed behavior of the race-menu-sliders and cam-shuttering while wearing SMP-cloth while walking in curves together with the camera, despite of a fast SMP-release....that can be covered by using another sort of physics (CBP/C), which in that case of an installation is not allowing to switch the monitor-speed higher, because the speed of pic-refreshing also increases the speed of that physics...so it is made to work for 59Hz for showing the correct speed.

 

SE: Depth of textures are better, the game is loading faster, bodies are more realistic, lightning is more better-depending on a really well setting of an customized ENB.....

 

If you want to create own content or/and mods, you need to have SKYRIM LE installed together available with your modding tools and if then you like to offer and port the mod to SKYRIM SE, it is mostly fine. Into SE you can not mod directly because there are no suiting tools-LE is simply the entrance and basic-game so to be able to create also SE-content.

 

I would install LE and then after it, I ´d also install SE....then you can make your own experiences.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Andy14]

1 hour ago, shardoom said:

The physics on SE blow anything on LE straight out of the water.

Thanks, that saved my day. I haven't laughed that hard today. lol

[Gukahn]

Kids, bring the Popcorn, they going to argue about the Versions again

[yorpers]

I think someone asks this about once a week here or some variation of this question.?

 

I'll give you the same answer I give everyone else. There are a few mods for LE that don't work on SE such as animation speed control. SE has many things going for it that are better than LE though, it's built on dx 11 instead of dx9 and can handle going above the oldrim memory limits without any fuss. SE also has access to esl flagged plugins, so you can go above 255 plugins without having to go through the process of merging mods and the annoyance that creates. Also SE has access to better compression, bc7.  As far as physics go, LE can do a couple more things with physics, but both games are more than capable of having your SoS flop all over the place, both games have good body physics especially after you tweak the configs.?

 

Where SE really shines is when you get outside the realm of sexlab related mods. Netscriptframework, and all the mods that require it are mostly only for SE 1.5.97 for example.

 

 

[Grey Cloud]

11 minutes ago, Gukahn said:

they going to argue about the Versions again

What? You mean this question has been asked before? I'm shocked, shocked I tell you. It's only been 5-6 years since SE came out. ?

[Gukahn]

4 minutes ago, Grey Cloud said:

What? You mean this question has been asked before? I'm shocked, shocked I tell you. It's only been 5-6 years since SE came out. ?

Understandable. I mean, it's not like this Question gets asked at least twice a Week. I Apologize for disturbing you a bit ?

[shardoom]

42 minutes ago, Andy14 said:

Thanks, that saved my day. I haven't laughed that hard today. lol

 

Nah, there really is no argument to be had here.

[Grey Cloud]

25 minutes ago, shardoom said:

 

Nah, there really is no argument to be had here.

There is no argument because you cannot back up your statement with anything factual.

[shardoom]

2 hours ago, Grey Cloud said:

There is no argument because you cannot back up your statement with anything factual.

 

That's not it at all, SE's CBPC or SMP make HDTPE look like dogshit, it only takes playing the different versions to see which is superior.

I just don't really relish the idea of arguing with fanboys, who are too committed to their heavily modded and heavily aged version of a game to move with the times.

[Alessia Wellington]

7 minutes ago, shardoom said:

That's not it at all, SE's CBPC or SMP make HDTPE look like dogshit, it only takes playing the different versions to see which is superior.

I just don't really relish the idea of arguing with fanboys, who are too committed to their heavily modded and heavily aged version of a game to move with the times.

 

Now that's just stupid. What's the point to switch versions when the one you're playing works perfectly fine for you? Do you buy a new car just because of a flat tire? Probably not.

[shardoom]

Just now, Alessia Wellington said:

 

Now that's just stupid. What's the point to switch versions when the one you're playing works perfectly fine for you? Do you buy a new car just because of a flat tire? Probably not.

 

Because the new one works better and better stuff comes out for it? Just check out all the fancy new shit Powerofthree and doodlezoid etc come out with all the time.

I play the newest SE, what some people erroneously refer to as AE. This itself is an upgrade over the version a lot of people downgraded (hence the name 'downgrade'), which again is an upgrade over LE. The difference between the up to date version of SE and the ancient LE really is night and day.

 

That being said, if you want to stay playing the oldest iteration of the game because you've managed to magically make it stable, then more power to you. You are a GOOD modder, because the original game is NOT easy to make stable, so I salute you.

[Gukahn]

[Alessia Wellington]

3 minutes ago, shardoom said:

Just check out all the fancy new shit Powerofthree and doodlezoid etc come out with all the time.

 

I'm using three of powerofthree's mods. That rest of his mods don't interest me in the slightest.

 

4 minutes ago, shardoom said:

That being said, if you want to stay playing the oldest iteration of the game

 

I'm playing SE.

[shardoom]

Just now, Alessia Wellington said:

 

I'm using three of powerofthree's mods. That rest of his mods don't interest me in the slightest.

 

 

I'm playing SE.

 

Well at least you kind of moved with the times.

[Grey Cloud]

47 minutes ago, shardoom said:

heavily aged version of a game to move with the times.

SE came out 6 years ago. I haven't played Skyrim since March and do not currently have a modded game (I'm not sure if the vanilla game is in working condition).

[Grey Cloud]

52 minutes ago, shardoom said:

because the original game is NOT easy to make stable, so I salute you.

So let's switch that around:

You struggled with LE but managed to get SE working so therefore SE is superior to LE.

LE is a doddle to make stable or at least it has been since 2016.

 

In any case, your responses prove my point that you have nothing factual by way evidence just a poor attempt to put labels on people.

Edited September 6, 2022 by Grey Cloud

[donttouchmethere]

14 minutes ago, Grey Cloud said:

So let's switch that around:

You struggled with LE but managed to get SE working so therefore SE is superior to LE.

LE is a doddle to make stable or at least it has been since 2016.

Not only that, you have to patch SE too and also hope you don't get lost in SE versions ?‍♂️

[shardoom]

1 hour ago, Grey Cloud said:

So let's switch that around:

You struggled with LE but managed to get SE working so therefore SE is superior to LE.

LE is a doddle to make stable or at least it has been since 2016.

 

In any case, your responses prove my point that you have nothing factual by way evidence just a poor attempt to put labels on people.

 

Oh I never said I struggled with LE. I'm a GOOD modder I made it work just fine. But that's all it was 'just fine'.

The newer version of SE is VASTLY superior. I'm not here to prove anything to you btw, you're not even the original poster who was asking about HDT.

HDT in LE uses old tech so I'm not sure why you even responded to my statement, nothing I said was without fact.

 

Edit: Dammit I didn't want to get caught up in a lengthy 'debate' over this. So fine, you win LE is #1 better than all the rest. Go for the original, yayyyy!

Edited September 6, 2022 by shardoom

[shardoom]

1 hour ago, donttouchmethere said:

Not only that, you have to patch SE too and also hope you don't get lost in SE versions ?‍♂️

 

If you're talking about the downgrader thing, you really DON'T.

People were just afraid their favourite mods wouldn't work in the up to date version, but that's not a reason to make your game worse. lol

If you simply keep your game up to date, then you don't have to worry about anything.

The new version of SE (what you might refer to as AE) is the best version yet with all of the improvements that SE has over LE, with recompiled scripts that run super fast.

 

Edit: Dammit I didn't want to get caught up in a lengthy 'debate' over this. So fine, you win LE is #1 better than all the rest. Go for the original, yayyyy!

Edited September 6, 2022 by shardoom

[Grey Cloud]

17 minutes ago, shardoom said:

Dammit I didn't want to get caught up in a lengthy 'debate' over this. So fine, you win LE is #1 better than all the rest. Go for the original, yayyyy!

You still don't get it. The problem is that you have not come up with any evidence as to why SE physics is so much better than LE physics. It was you who went with the SE/LE thing to deflect from this.

 

American by any chance?

[yorpers]

?

 

Poor bloke is going to come back and be like "wtf happened to my thread?" ?

 

Maybe the next thread they make will just be asking something simple like what the differences are between mod managers. ?

[Grey Cloud]

8 minutes ago, yorpers said:

asking something simple like what the differences are between mod managers.

I can already hear the sound of knives being sharpened. ?

[shardoom]

8 minutes ago, Grey Cloud said:

You still don't get it. The problem is that you have not come up with any evidence as to why SE physics is so much better than LE physics. It was you who went with the SE/LE thing to deflect from this.

 

American by any chance?

 

How very dare you?!

I'm English through and through! (though I do have an American girlfriend, but I'm in the process of converting her!)

 

Also I answered your question as soon as you posted to me directly, read up...

I stated that SE's physics makes LE's look like dogshit, and they do. That's enough factual proof right there.

If it's not, then I'm not sure what else you could want. Images of tits/hair NOT stretching off into infinity or npc's NOT randomly going invisible like in LE?

Because no, I'm not invested enough to go and do that.

 

This is 100% my last post on this thread now. Now even going to read the reply, honest!