lukashisuphola Posted May 17, 2023 Posted May 17, 2023 Just curious, this sounds like an amazing mod, but how good is being good in it?                                                              (I have played far too many things where good is a tagged on thing or was a thing at start then forgotten for more and more extremes and at very "best" good just far too often eventually leads too the people being more addicted to cum/sex then Poobear is too honey and nothing more).                            I am working towards total new modded set up so far from being able too test it myself and therefore figured would ask, thanks.
Tentacus Posted May 18, 2023 Author Posted May 18, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, lukashisuphola said: Just curious, this sounds like an amazing mod, but how good is being good in it?                                                              (I have played far too many things where good is a tagged on thing or was a thing at start then forgotten for more and more extremes and at very "best" good just far too often eventually leads too the people being more addicted to cum/sex then Poobear is too honey and nothing more).                            I am working towards total new modded set up so far from being able too test it myself and therefore figured would ask, thanks.  Within the realm of just the mod's original scope, IE: The stuff related to Notice board rescues there is a decent amount of good, heroic dialogue, The player getting offered sex if they are playing as good is in no way guaranteed, and that's honestly kind of the point because it's interesting to play with ideas of consent in a mod where there are no real consequences for being a bad person and just taking what you want.  There is a decent amount of light romance stuff beyond that, like dating Gisli or the Silverblood Inn family, and a good amount of neutral content like engaging with sex workers and casual sex, and sexual/socializing activity with your followers. I don't feel like any of it really becomes overly sex focused like with the other mods you describe. It's a bit breezier than that. Here's an example of one of my good characters on a "become a bard" playthrough. Good Player Gisli Date  All that said the bulk of the best stuff is built around being evil or being a victim of evil people cause it's the most fun to write so it is the part that got the most attention, That said I've had a lot of fun on my good player playthroughs and I think it adds quite a lot as a complement to a more normal game.  Hope that answered your questions. Edited May 18, 2023 by Tentacus 3
lukashisuphola Posted May 18, 2023 Posted May 18, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, Tentacus said:  Within the realm of just the mod's original scope, IE: The stuff related to Notice board rescues there is a decent amount of good, heroic dialogue, The player getting offered sex if they are playing as good is in no way guaranteed, and that's honestly kind of the point because it's interesting to play with ideas of consent in a mod where there are no real consequences for being a bad person and just taking what you want.  There is a decent amount of light romance stuff beyond that, like dating Gisli or the Silverblood Inn family, and a good amount of neutral content like engaging with sex workers and casual sex, and sexual/socializing activity with your followers. I don't feel like any of it really becomes overly sex focused like with the other mods you describe. It's a bit breezier than that. Here's an example of one of my good characters on a "become a bard" playthrough. Good Player Gisli Date  All that said the bulk of the best stuff is built around being evil or being a victim of evil people cause it's the most fun to write so it is the part that got the most attention, That said I've had a lot of fun on my good player playthroughs and I think it adds quite a lot as a complement to a more normal game.  Hope that answered your questions. Ya thanks for reply, will probably add it least on a 2nd playthrough, though seems quite high end compared to a lot of stuff and maybe will feel like adding it even on main as read its very compatible with mods any ways (so long as a bit of "damaged immersion" is deemed ok of course, which for me it is).  Just personally tired of the things I mentioned as I have played a fair enough amount of cultured games/vns..., but most so when I don't find out until far down the line of it that it ends up true, which would go double here as its of course a more personal role play thing and would not fit my character likely.. Unless they were I suppose too experience something akin to Redo of a Healer maybe... though then again that would drastically alter a lot and the things he experienced I would not want to playthrough at all any ways.. though I really don't think even your most dom slave driver, let alone yourself, comes close to that any ways  ("for good or bad").  (Again should note like your warning; I find nothing wrong with it, its all fiction and sounds like good effort was put into it). Edited May 18, 2023 by lukashisuphola
lukashisuphola Posted May 18, 2023 Posted May 18, 2023 (edited) Which version of Billy and Leitos do you recommend?  I found 2 for Billy (1 by the guy that ported all the animations and another I got while back that included Billy's old stuff as optional) I found 1 only for Leito but according to its posts its out of date and does not work with AE/6.6  (baka/babofactory seems fine just has his patreon under review and assume of course ZaZ + is all good enough soo long it is that version ) Edited May 18, 2023 by lukashisuphola
Tentacus Posted May 18, 2023 Author Posted May 18, 2023 (edited) 41 minutes ago, lukashisuphola said: Which version of Billy and Leitos do you recommend?  I found 2 for Billy (1 by the guy that ported all the animations and another I got while back that included Billy's old stuff as optional) I found 1 only for Leito but according to its posts its out of date and does not work with AE/6.6  (baka/babofactory seems fine just has his patreon under review and assume of course ZaZ + is all good enough soo long it is that version )  I'm not sure which Billy version I have. I know it's out of date as it's like 5.3. As long as both packs have basiaclly the same tags it should be fine, just choose the more up to date one with more anims.  In general grab all the human anim packs. I mean depending on what kind of interactions you want available. This mod doesn't do anything with creatures (Though I do have an unreleased addon for... dog owners... ahem... but I always feel weird about releasing something like that publically but I guess since my name is associated with Nukaride and the Leito XMLs for FO4 I shouldn't care... If people want it let me know.) Personally I don't download furniture packs just cause it infuriates me that they spawn in furniture. I also untick the ones that come with mixed packs.  If you want MM gay stuff you should also grab one of the M2M packs I have the standalone non SLAL one and it works fine. Though you probably wanna untick all the weird muscle fetish positions.  Another note on anims... Unfortunately not all animators follow the same convention for actor order so occasionally... especially for the lesbian anims the top/bottom order will be reversed from what the dialogue says so you'll have to swap positions with the sexlab shortcut. Sadly there is no way around this... Fucking Leito does it different in different packs... it's infuriating. If this was AAF I'd just include my own XML. Edited May 18, 2023 by Tentacus
Ero Sama Posted May 18, 2023 Posted May 18, 2023 58 minutes ago, Tentacus said:  I'm not sure which Billy version I have. I know it's out of date as it's like 5.3. As long as both packs have basiaclly the same tags it should be fine, just choose the more up to date one with more anims.  In general grab all the human anim packs. I mean depending on what kind of interactions you want available. This mod doesn't do anything with creatures (Though I do have an unreleased addon for... dog owners... ahem... but I always feel weird about releasing something like that publically but I guess since my name is associated with Nukaride and the Leito XMLs for FO4 I shouldn't care... If people want it let me know.) Personally I don't download furniture packs just cause it infuriates me that they spawn in furniture. I also untick the ones that come with mixed packs.  If you want MM gay stuff you should also grab one of the M2M packs I have the standalone non SLAL one and it works fine. Though you probably wanna untick all the weird muscle fetish positions.  Another note on anims... Unfortunately not all animators follow the same convention for actor order so occasionally... especially for the lesbian anims the top/bottom order will be reversed from what the dialogue says so you'll have to swap positions with the sexlab shortcut. Sadly there is no way around this... Fucking Leito does it different in different packs... it's infuriating. If this was AAF I'd just include my own XML. If you want the last billy anims 6.9 for SE https://arca.live/b/tullius/76194344?category=모드&target=all&keyword=billy&p=1 Â
Tentacus Posted May 18, 2023 Author Posted May 18, 2023 Something I forgot to mention in the OP.  If you have butter, troll fat, or Dwemer oil in your inventory you will get extra dialogue for anal scenes if you are a slave or prostitute. This has no mechanical benefit. It's just for RP.  Â
jc321 Posted May 18, 2023 Posted May 18, 2023 Hi @Tentacus loving the update, especially the player slavery side of things and playing in VR.  Can I confirm that it's intentional for blindfold to enforce the screen to be dark when being punished (as per mother videos). Although I can just about make out my hands and interact with NPC but wasn't sure if I could turn down the blindford (as in ZAP config etc..) or not.  Secondly, and not sure if it's just me (so hopefully someone is able to confirm) if doing the Maven route, I'm being aggro'd when staying in the manor after 8pm etc.. with the NPC's saying the generic 'you need to leave' type responses. I haven't noticed it on the other avenues so wasn't sure if its a setting is missed.  Thanks for creating a great mod.Â
Tentacus Posted May 18, 2023 Author Posted May 18, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, jc321 said: Hi @Tentacus loving the update, especially the player slavery side of things and playing in VR.  Can I confirm that it's intentional for blindfold to enforce the screen to be dark when being punished (as per mother videos). Although I can just about make out my hands and interact with NPC but wasn't sure if I could turn down the blindford (as in ZAP config etc..) or not.  I mean it's just a fade to black I don't actually equip a blindfold I just added the text to justify the sound only scene which was the best/easiest way to accomplish what I wanted. I would have added text popups like in Hardship but Skyrim handles messageboxes when faded out differently than fallout 4... In the end I'm happy with how it works, but yes nothing is stopping you from moving around and getting in trouble so I'd recommend you don't You are supposed to be bound though I didn't actually equip anything, again.   2 hours ago, jc321 said:  Secondly, and not sure if it's just me (so hopefully someone is able to confirm) if doing the Maven route, I'm being aggro'd when staying in the manor after 8pm etc.. with the NPC's saying the generic 'you need to leave' type responses. I haven't noticed it on the other avenues so wasn't sure if its a setting is missed.  Thanks for creating a great mod.  I assume you just mean being asked to leave not actually aggroing... This happens sometimes... I have NO idea why I made you owner of the cell and Relationship Rank 4 with Maven and all the others so I dunno. if you step out on the balcony and come back in it sometimes lets you sleep, or you could reload a save and try again. Like I said it only happened rarely for me, and every time I was eventually able to sleep. This never once happened anywhere but Black-Briar manor and one time at the Hag's cure, but I am not sure that one counts cause I'd already killed Bothela after her scenario ended... so maybe Muiri's Rank went below 0.  I suspect that when you enter the house matters, cause when this happened to me it was always when I came home earlier in the evening just after the 'tresspassing" window started.  Also for any VR players if you use something like "simpler knock" don't forget to crouch to use the keys I give you. Edited May 18, 2023 by Tentacus 1
Tentacus Posted May 18, 2023 Author Posted May 18, 2023 In addition to the lube dialogue I mentioned earlier I thought of something else I forgot to mention in the OP. This one is rather important. For prostitution and slave activities you will have to remember to redress yourself manually after. (usually) even if there wasn't stripping dialogue. This is for "reasons". Â If you hate immersion... too bad. Â I imagine SE players who routinely check out their own ass in third person this won't be as much of an issue but as a VR player I've found myself walking around the city nekkid far too often. Â 1
Santosky Posted May 18, 2023 Posted May 18, 2023 Hello, I ran into a weird issue with regarding Maven's first interaction. So basically I walk into Riften, a guard tells me Maven wants to see me. ''Fall Into Black Briars'' quest starts and I go to see Maven, go through the first dialogue and when I try to pick either ''What's my next assignment Mistress ?'' or the ''Can I offer my services in bed ?'' she freezes sorta and no dialogue shows up. Any help would be appreciated thanks. Btw the rest of the mods functions and dialogue work except that one.
jc321 Posted May 18, 2023 Posted May 18, 2023 21 minutes ago, Tentacus said: I assume you just mean being asked to leave not actually aggroing.  Well actually the 'You need to leave' does crop up but (and I admit v limited testing) if that's going on (or sometimes not, but during the period of night time) Indrun (the guy? can't rember his name) wants to demand your services and regardless whether you accept or say no he starts aggro'ing .. Couple of times I thought I might have had my fists clenched and alternating that (on VR controllers) seemed to calm him down but then the dialogue happened again .. followed by aggro'ing and trying to hit me .. Outside (if he wasn't too annoyed to just keep fighting) then the dialogue worked .. which made me think it was in conjunction with trespassing.  It is a little strange because they don't seem to start getting into a fight unless post the dialogue for sex starts and sexlab should start to kick in for the animation.    Â
Tentacus Posted May 18, 2023 Author Posted May 18, 2023 9 minutes ago, jc321 said:  Well actually the 'You need to leave' does crop up but (and I admit v limited testing) if that's going on (or sometimes not, but during the period of night time) Indrun (the guy? can't rember his name) wants to demand your services and regardless whether you accept or say no he starts aggro'ing .. Couple of times I thought I might have had my fists clenched and alternating that (on VR controllers) seemed to calm him down but then the dialogue happened again .. followed by aggro'ing and trying to hit me .. Outside (if he wasn't too annoyed to just keep fighting) then the dialogue worked .. which made me think it was in conjunction with trespassing.  It is a little strange because they don't seem to start getting into a fight unless post the dialogue for sex starts and sexlab should start to kick in for the animation.       I know exactly what this is and should have mentioned it. The script for filling the alias for them to follow you for sex does double duty. If it is run AFTER THE ALIAS IS FILLED It results in fighting them. This can happen sometimes if you click through the dialogue too fast and end up doing the dialogue twice. If this happens and you get the dialogue to have them follow you pop up again back out of it using the cancel button.  Normally I would say NEVER EVER cancel out of NMS dialogue because it can really fuck things up with topics with multiple scripts, but this is one time it's necessary to do so. Now that you know hopefully you'll get a feel for it and it won't happen again. 1
jc321 Posted May 18, 2023 Posted May 18, 2023 Thanks,  I'm pretty sure I did click through/skip the dialogue too fast (one of the fables trying to remember which button on your VR progresses or not  ) so that sounds like my experience.  Â
Tentacus Posted May 18, 2023 Author Posted May 18, 2023 (edited) 24 minutes ago, Santosky said: Hello, I ran into a weird issue with regarding Maven's first interaction. So basically I walk into Riften, a guard tells me Maven wants to see me. ''Fall Into Black Briars'' quest starts and I go to see Maven, go through the first dialogue and when I try to pick either ''What's my next assignment Mistress ?'' or the ''Can I offer my services in bed ?'' she freezes sorta and no dialogue shows up. Any help would be appreciated thanks. Btw the rest of the mods functions and dialogue work except that one. Â Hmmm... neither of those lines are from this mod... Assuming you are paraphrasing I am still not sure what it could reference, since you don't even get the option to offer sex willingly (just oral) until you are fairly obedient... so not early on. Ether way I never had any dialogue freeze up. Â Edited May 18, 2023 by Tentacus
Santosky Posted May 18, 2023 Posted May 18, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, Tentacus said:  Hmmm... neither of those lines are from this mod... Assuming you are paraphrasing I am still not sure what it could reference, since you don't even get the option to offer sex willingly (just oral) until you are fairly obedient... so not early on. Ether way I never had any dialogue freeze up.  Wait those lines are not from this mod ???. Omg I'm so sorry to have wasted your time. Looks like the culprit might be Troubles Of Heroine or Amourous Adventure, or... something ? idk gonna have to do some digging in my modlist. Anyways sorry again, and thanks for replying ? Edited May 18, 2023 by Santosky
lukashisuphola Posted May 18, 2023 Posted May 18, 2023 (edited) 6 hours ago, Ero Sama said: If you want the last billy anims 6.9 for SE https://arca.live/b/tullius/76194344?category=모드&target=all&keyword=billy&p=1  By chance do you know best leito version? That was the one I read has a lot of issues. If not all good, just figured would ask, ty for share. Edited May 18, 2023 by lukashisuphola
lukashisuphola Posted May 18, 2023 Posted May 18, 2023 It seems Skyrim downloads section has a lot more up to date animation packs as it was just 1 cool guy 2-3 years ago porting and og makers stayed there and updated with many just containing seperate SE download in them. (Though I think have to read comments and "throw a analplug/dart" ie test and hope they work on latest ver).
lukashisuphola Posted May 18, 2023 Posted May 18, 2023 54 minutes ago, Santosky said: Wait those lines are not from this mod ???. Omg I'm so sorry to have wasted your time. Looks like the culprit might be Troubles Of Heroine or Amourous Adventure, or... something ? idk gonna have to do some digging in my modlist. Anyways sorry again, and thanks for replying ? I think if you just avoid selecting the choices that are not from this mod, you should be fine and will possibly be able to do other one after completing it. So make sure you always saying mistress I assume.   (I could be wrong, just think so, and description even says something along those lines).
lukashisuphola Posted May 18, 2023 Posted May 18, 2023 7 hours ago, Tentacus said:  This mod doesn't do anything with creatures (Though I do have an unreleased addon for... dog owners... ahem... but I always feel weird about releasing something like that publically but I guess since my name is associated with Nukaride and the Leito XMLs for FO4 I shouldn't care... If people want it let me know.) Imo you may as well include it, I mean 1/4 animation packs seem too have at least a "doggy style" and I remember even Oblivion had a giant thing for dog lovers+workers with very descriptive lore books that read like something you "would" find in irl then typical ElderScroll humor lol.               But do whatever, though will saymaking this mod and speaking of sexual idea comfortable, gave me a small laugh.
Tentacus Posted May 18, 2023 Author Posted May 18, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, lukashisuphola said: Imo you may as well include it, I mean 1/4 animation packs seem too have at least a "doggy style" and I remember even Oblivion had a giant thing for dog lovers+workers with very descriptive lore books that read like something you "would" find in irl then typical ElderScroll humor lol.               But do whatever, though will saymaking this mod and speaking of sexual idea comfortable, gave me a small laugh.   Oh yeah I totally lied... this mod does do something with creatures... I forgot about the giants. You'll need creature animations for that if you're interested in it.  There is just way... way too much shit in this mod. Edited May 18, 2023 by Tentacus
manafalls Posted May 18, 2023 Posted May 18, 2023 1 hour ago, Tentacus said:   Oh yeah I totally lied... this mod does do something with creatures... I forgot about the giants. You'll need creature animations for that if you're interested in it.  There is just way... way too much shit in this mod.  You should definitely upload the addon you mentioned!  Also, I haven't even started playing the mod yet, and I've already been enormously entertained by your source code 1
Ero Sama Posted May 19, 2023 Posted May 19, 2023 15 hours ago, lukashisuphola said: By chance do you know best leito version? That was the one I read has a lot of issues. If not all good, just figured would ask, ty for share. leito is stil 1.6 but you can check this link it's ahve all anim existing for SE https://arca.live/b/tullius/22515624?category=모드&target=all&keyword=anub&p=1 sorry for my engrish i m french xd
Tentacus Posted May 19, 2023 Author Posted May 19, 2023 (edited) Heh, found one bug that will need to be fixed... my new casual sex buffer topic works on animals. It just leads to a nevermind but still funny.  EDIT: Shit, it works on kids too, but since it just leads to the old casual topic it can't lead to anything but a nevermind, so no hurry to fix it until I find more bugs. Edited May 19, 2023 by Tentacus
requiredname65 Posted May 19, 2023 Posted May 19, 2023 1 hour ago, Tentacus said: Heh, found one bug that will need to be fixed... my new casual sex buffer topic works on animals. It just leads to a nevermind but still funny. That could be a feature if you keep that in but only active when player has taken copius amount of skooma. Or wine.
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