shadowwins Posted July 18, 2013 Posted July 18, 2013 ive finally got it working properly however i had to first turn off all my mods make a new game save and reactivate 2 or 3 mods at a time go into the game and save then move to the next couple of mods basicly once you have the dll set in the base of your save its just a matter of reactivating your mods back to its max and you'll be able to move around Will have to try this later. The dll from 3dm works fine for me but I wanted to try the one in the first post. I got it to load up a save in dragons reach but it ctds the second I try to leave. I gave an older save a try from before I had the original dll installed but it ctds while loading. Wanted to try the newer dll out to see if it would help with the massive lag I get when the game starts loading npcs. Well I assume that's what's causing it. Oh and anyone else just have the game get hung on the loading screen as in just sets on the loading screen and never finishes loading. I can't say its frozen either seeing as it keeps cycling the tips. Shadow did you find any specific mod that was incompatable and certainly should be avoided if wishing to use this physics ?@ and arngrim- yes, constantly getting infinite hanging loadscreen, very very very annoying. If I had a cat, I would give it such a punch ! its not a matter of what not works its a matter of finding what loads well with what because ive not tried everything on here and nexus but all the mods i do have do work how their spose to work however i dont know what'll happen when a mod has an update and you try to replace it so bare this in mind
brankomilenko Posted July 18, 2013 Posted July 18, 2013 As ttpt said, disabling mod with scripts equals bloat save, the only solution would be to enable SKSE.ini with [General]ClearInvalidRegistrations=1 but even then it would take a while to disable them, so there's only two choices here, start a new game with the mods you plan to keep in the long run or wait for the update. @Uriel I got it unistalled, what I did was to save in first person, exit and delete the hdt...dll and log, put back my skeleton and run FNIS, after loading the game run like always, hope it helps.
Uriel Posted July 18, 2013 Posted July 18, 2013 ClearInvalidRegistrations will not help in this case. I'll try it, thanks.
brankomilenko Posted July 18, 2013 Posted July 18, 2013 ClearInvalidRegistrations will not help in this case. I'll try it, thanks. Lol, no, I miss an "s" as in mods, referring to the guy that recommends disabling all his mods. SKSE can't do a thing about this .dll.
shadowwins Posted July 18, 2013 Posted July 18, 2013 ps going times 3 breast size on max wieght will make your beasts spack out
Vulon Posted July 18, 2013 Posted July 18, 2013 Okay, so I tried downloading the link on the Chinese site with the video, since the most recent .dll caused me to crash immediately on load. My results thus far... *Was able to load save in Dragonsreach with no problem *My character's ass was twitching awkwardly while her tits spazzed out *Walked, ran, and sprinted around the place, same awkward, twitchy animations *Left Dragonsreach with no problem, proceeded to enter and immediately exit various interiors to see if I would CTD when loading different cells, since I read that so many here experienced that. As luck would have it, I did not. * Observed various female NPCs and cried pitifully upon realizing that their clothes had none of the bounciness I was promised *Quit to desktop and decided to create a new BBP body in the CB++ bodyslider; figured maybe I'd have better luck with BBP than TBBP. *Loaded back up, got a CTD when I tried to load last save *Loaded up again, chose to load auto-save instead, which worked *Same twitchy tit animation, no more spazzy butt, still no bouncy clothes Gonna tinker around with it some more and see what happens. For the record, which skeletons / bodies seem to work best with this? I'm currently just using the XPMS skeleton and the CB++ BBP body I mentioned.
Cyndi Posted July 18, 2013 Posted July 18, 2013 ******* SNIP ******* And, any body with BBP without neck seam? Thx in advance It probably isn't the bodies giving you neck seams, but rather the stock textures they come with. Alot of the more dated texture packs suffer from seam issues aswell. Your lighting settings/mods/enb/etc will also have a BIG impact on this. Have a look, or post in "What mod is this", "Where can I find...." etc. or even tech support. iirc, there is a whole thread about textures for one of the bodies in the general discussion tab.
ttpt Posted July 18, 2013 Posted July 18, 2013 ClearInvalidRegistrations will not help in this case. I'll try it, thanks. Lol, no, I miss an "s" as in mods, referring to the guy that recommends disabling all his mods. SKSE can't do a thing about this .dll. Actually it's an SKSE plugin, so SKSE of all things should be able to do something about it. It's also why clean saving and clearinvalidregistrations and what not isn't the solution cause it's not really a mod. It's probably a memory issue as someone has pointed out before, so there's really nothing that can be done if the newer version doesn't work for you.
Funkcikle Posted July 18, 2013 Posted July 18, 2013 So I'm now trying to start a new charact to test the "add a few mods at a time" method. However I can't start a new game with the most recent DLL. just CTD on load. With all mods apart from DLC disabled... I CAN start a new game with the first DLL, So im going to do that. This second one seems to be giving me no end of nightmares. I guess its something about my particular skyrim installation. Bodymeshes, or skeletons .. or something. Animations perhaps.
Arngrim11 Posted July 18, 2013 Posted July 18, 2013 Man it's just strange that the new dll works for some but not others. I can load up inside saves just fine but I can move outside or load an outside save.
ThatGuyJonus Posted July 18, 2013 Posted July 18, 2013 This mod makes use of significant SKSE Scripting so overloading your game with a ton of script dependent mods such as Footprints or wet and cold, or frostfall (mods that have scripts running constantly) will probably cause an enormous amount of script data loading in ram. Likely if running all those together will cause the game to explode on you since your overloading the system. I mean as an example the HDTLog file for the havok system will literally bloat to 30 megs in a rather short time for me. Example First record 7/18/13 12:36:02 Last Record 7/18/13 14:04:50 So in the course of 1.5 hours it bloated to 31,560Kb. 31 meg log file in the course of an hour, all references to skeleton changes. I'm no expert on the way the mod works but using the skeleton by itself in the data folder without having to switch it constantly would likely improve stability.
Funkcikle Posted July 18, 2013 Posted July 18, 2013 Thing is, I'm keeping an eye on the RAM usage, its never really going above 1.2 gig, as I understand It skyrims limit is around 3-4 gig so, its not even coming close to that. Why would it crash from overloading ram, when its only using 25-30% of its maximum ram. I think that perhaps some of us have something in our particular mod build that has some catastrophic incompatability with how this physics DLL works. If I can work out how to use spoilers, I'll post my mod list/load order and those of you having similar ctd issues can have a look at see if we have any particular mods in common. Or something
Cyndi Posted July 19, 2013 Posted July 19, 2013 Thing is, I'm keeping an eye on the RAM usage, its never really going above 1.2 gig, as I understand It skyrims limit is around 3-4 gig so, its not even coming close to that. Why would it crash from overloading ram, when its only using 25-30% of its maximum ram. I think that perhaps some of us have something in our particular mod build that has some catastrophic incompatability with how this physics DLL works. If I can work out how to use spoilers, I'll post my mod list/load order and those of you having similar ctd issues can have a look at see if we have any particular mods in common. Or something [spoiler.] your text goes here [/spoiler.] only without the . after the word spoiler or use the ! bubble beside the twitter botton above where you type in the stuffs and.... I'd post mine (load order) but it's a complete mess xD
Funkcikle Posted July 19, 2013 Posted July 19, 2013 like this ? Active Mod Files: 00 Skyrim.esm 01 Update.esm 02 Dawnguard.esm 03 HearthFires.esm 04 Dragonborn.esm 05 ApachiiHair.esm 06 ImmersiveContent.esm 07 Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm 08 Unique.esm 09 ZaZAnimationPack.esm 0A SexLab.esm [Version 1.11] 0B 0_RealisticBodySystem.esm 0C HighResTexturePack01.esp 0D HighResTexturePack02.esp 0E HighResTexturePack03.esp 0F Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp [Version 1.3.2c] 10 Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp [Version 1.1.1] 11 Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp [Version 1.0.4] 12 Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp [Version 1.2.0] 13 Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp [Version 1.1.2] 14 ImmersiveContentExteriorLighting.esp [Version 1.1] 15 SkyrimURWL.esp 16 GuessDistance.esp 17 Immersive Battles.esp 18 Immersive Brigands.esp 19 Immersive Dawnguard.esp 1A Immersive Factions.esp 1B Immersive Mercenaries.esp 1C Immersive Patrols.esp 1D Immersive Travelers.esp 1E Immersive Werewolves.esp 1F LoversComfort.esp 20 ScenicCarriages.esp 21 Convenient Horses.esp 22 RaceMenu.esp 23 RaceMenuPlugin.esp 24 SkyUI.esp 25 Bondage Straps - UNPB BBP.esp 26 Cloaks.esp 27 1nivWICCloaks.esp [Version 2.2] 28 1nivWICSkyCloaksPatch.esp [Version 2.2] 29 KWTelescope.esp 2A MorSit.esp 2B Osare GothicLolita.esp 2C Remodeled Armor.esp 2D Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer.esp ++ Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer - Dawnguard.esp 2E SeraphineHuntedArmor.esp 2F zarias_restraints.esp 30 Dr_Bandolier.esp 31 adalmatar.esp 32 teg_returntohelgen.esp ++ Proper Aiming.esp 33 Schlongs of Skyrim.esp 34 SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp 35 The Joy of Perspective.esp 36 Realistic Lighting.esp 37 Realistic Lighting Patcher.esp 38 Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Illuminated Spells.esp 39 Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Dungeons.esp 3A Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Minor Cities & Town Interiors.esp 3B Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Interiors.esp 3C Realistic Lighting Overhaul - 3.5 Dawnguard Weathers.esp 3D Realistic Lighting Overhaul - 3.5 Weathers.esp 3E RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp 3F RND_Dawnguard-Patch.esp 40 RND_HearthFires-Patch.esp 41 RND_Dragonborn-Patch.esp 42 Predator Vision.esp 43 Vampire Sight.esp ++ Werewolves.esp 44 Ancient Spells.esp 45 URWL_BNDN.esp 46 FNISspells.esp 47 Horsemen.esp 48 Horsemen Combat Enhancement.esp 49 The Dance of Death - Dawnguard Edition.esp ++ ABT - Loot Arrows +25%.esp 4A ABT - Faster Bolts Improved +100%.esp 4B ABT - Faster Arrows Improved +100%.esp ++ ABT - Merchants Arrows +25%.esp 4C ABT - Increased Bolts Damage (Vanilla) +150%.esp 4D ABT - Increased Progressive Damage (Vanilla) +100%.esp 4E ABT - Recover +25% Arrows and Bolts.esp 4F ABT - Recover +10% Arrows and Bolts.esp 50 Sneak Tools.esp 51 Sneak Tools Vanilla Hoods.esp 52 Sneak Tools Vanilla Masks.esp 53 _zzSimsHair.esp 54 _zzSimsHair2.esp 55 HothFollower.esp 56 Atvir.esp 57 JessicaAlba.esp 58 iLoveLydia.esp 59 CerwidenCompanion.esp 5A EMCompViljaSkyrim.esp 5B EMViljaInSolstheimAddOn.esp 5C LylvieveSisters.esp 5D NoNakedComments.esp 5E AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp 5F dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp 60 WATER.esp 61 WATER Plants.esp 62 RND_Water-Patch.esp 63 GreenWaterFixForWATER.esp 64 GreenWaterFix.esp 65 GreenWaterFix_Compatible.esp 66 Bashed Patch, 0.esp 67 LustyArgonianMaid&SultryArgonianBard.esp 68 SexLabMatchMaker.esp 69 SexLab SexChat.esp 6A ZaZAnimationPackConfig.esp 6B LoversHook.esp 6C sanguinesDebauchery.esp 6D SDpatch - dawnguard.esp 6E SDpatch - dragonborn.esp 6F dip.esp 70 Elecp's Vampdress.esp 71 Realistic Lighting Addon.esp 72 SexLab Solutions.esp 73 SexLabProcreation.esp 74 zzGenitalia.esp 75 SexLabUtil1.esp 76 Orc&ElfFix4TBBP.esp 77 SexLabDefeat.esp 78 SexLab Romance.esp 79 SexLabWorkingGirl.esp 7A SexLabZaZAnimations.esp 7B RaceMenuBodyMorphs.esp 7C AFT_NoFriendlySpellDamage.esp 7D HentaiImpregnation.esp 7E MercenaryCaptainMod.esp ++ Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer - Dragonborn.esp 7F zzEstrus.esp 80 Estrus Chaurus.esp 81 0_RealisticBodySystemNPCs.esp 82 BAMM.esp ++ Dawnguard - TJofP.esp 83 Private Needs.esp 84 StreakerPerksNoReq_2013-05-29.esp 85 TJoP - Transitions.esp 86 xazPrisonOverhaul.esp 87 SexLab Theft and Seduction.esp I'm putting things in and taking things out a lot, and wyre bash keeps deciding to muddle up the load order, but essentially, that's the bulk of the mods im using/trying to get to work. Now if any of you folks who are suffering serious dll induced ctds on load fancy taking a gander at my mods and if u see something that you yourself like to use. we might have a possible candidate for the root cause of all our ills. either that, or its like the fella said earlier, to many scripts running.
brankomilenko Posted July 19, 2013 Posted July 19, 2013 Alright, so for this to work I say we start with your load order, so I'll copy paste the mods that we use in common so we might find the culprit. 00 Skyrim.esm01 Update.esm02 Dawnguard.esm03 HearthFires.esm04 Dragonborn.esm09 ZaZAnimationPack.esm0A SexLab.esm [Version 1.11]0C HighResTexturePack01.esp0D HighResTexturePack02.esp0E HighResTexturePack03.esp0F Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp [Version 1.3.2c]10 Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp [Version 1.1.1]11 Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp [Version 1.0.4]12 Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp [Version 1.2.0]1F LoversComfort.esp24 SkyUI.esp36 Realistic Lighting.esp37 Realistic Lighting Patcher.esp38 Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Illuminated Spells.esp39 Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Dungeons.esp3A Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Minor Cities & Town Interiors.esp3B Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Interiors.esp3D Realistic Lighting Overhaul - 3.5 Weathers.esp68 SexLabMatchMaker.esp6A ZaZAnimationPackConfig.esp6B LoversHook.esp7A SexLabZaZAnimations.esp83 Private Needs.esp So if someone doesn't have a mod from my list post your list without those. Who's next?
Mailamea Posted July 19, 2013 Posted July 19, 2013 Any tutorial or instructions on what to download and how to install?
Jay1646 Posted July 19, 2013 Posted July 19, 2013 Any tutorial or instructions on what to download and how to install? Just put the .dll file in your SKSE plugins folder Run FNIS and remove (and backup) the skeleton .hkx file in the character assets female folder...
pclp2014 Posted July 19, 2013 Posted July 19, 2013 Any tutorial or instructions on what to download and how to install? The Dll is available in OP (Version 3) or Version 2 is here http://pan.baidu.com/share/link?shareid=591576788&uk=2619899231
Monsto Brukes Posted July 19, 2013 Posted July 19, 2013 Any tutorial or instructions on what to download and how to install? Just put the .dll file in your SKSE plugins folder Run FNIS and remove (and backup) the skeleton .hkx file in the character assets female folder... This works well for me and I didn't run FNIS as part of this installation. therefore, I'm not so sure that it's required. I thought FNIS was required just for adding new animations. since this doesn't have any animations at all (in the classic sense anyway), why would it be required? That's an actual question, not snark.
Yami X Posted July 19, 2013 Posted July 19, 2013 Does anybody feel like uploading the 2nd version of the plugin the help would be appreciated.
ThatGuyJonus Posted July 19, 2013 Posted July 19, 2013 Just to Point out I never specifically said ram, I was refering to the scripting engine. Papyrus is notorious for bogging down under heavy load since, in terms of scripting, its really slow.
pclp2014 Posted July 19, 2013 Posted July 19, 2013 Does anybody feel like uploading the 2nd version of the plugin the help would be appreciated. here is zip of Version 2 hdtPhysicsExtensions.zip
Mailamea Posted July 19, 2013 Posted July 19, 2013 Do i need BBP or TBBP animations? and its skeleton? or just delete skeleton.hkx in character assets female, run fnis and the .dll in installation folder?
kharlynak Posted July 19, 2013 Posted July 19, 2013 Do i need BBP or TBBP animations? and its skeleton? or just delete skeleton.hkx in character assets female, run fnis and the .dll in installation folder? I think you just need a BBP/TBBP compatible skeleton.
Mailamea Posted July 19, 2013 Posted July 19, 2013 Do i need BBP or TBBP animations? and its skeleton? or just delete skeleton.hkx in character assets female, run fnis and the .dll in installation folder? I think you just need a BBP/TBBP compatible skeleton. TBBP/BBP body a TBBP/BBP Skeleton and delete skeleton.hkx in character assets female copy .dll in skyrim installation folder then run FNIS Is this right?
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