Being a Cow (Alternate Version)

[botticelli]

11 hours ago, secretfeather said:

Can anyone help, please? Get CTD on some transformation stages, when body scaling. Сhecked everything I could for LE version. Have no clue what's wrong. Before it played 3 hours, works fine.

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Last BAC Update message is

[08/08/2023 - 01:59:58AM] BAC: BAC::Update - Update to 2.5

It *should* run until 6.2

Crashing out on 2.5 ususally means wron ZaZ version This needs excatly 8.0+ (with the plus sign being part of the version number an *not* meaning "8.0 or above"!)

[secretfeather]

12 hours ago, botticelli said:

Last BAC Update message is

[08/08/2023 - 01:59:58AM] BAC: BAC::Update - Update to 2.5

It *should* run until 6.2

Crashing out on 2.5 ususally means wron ZaZ version This needs excatly 8.0+ (with the plus sign being part of the version number an *not* meaning "8.0 or above"!)

Thanks for help! I updated Zaz from 8 to 8 plus, but crashes continued. I solved the problem, it was in cbbe morphs. After fix all works great) 

[Tiruil]

If only there was a way to gradually become smaller or larger depending on the option for tall or short body instead of instant would be neat; but I dont think Skyrim works like that

[ebbluminous]

6 hours ago, Tiruil said:

If only there was a way to gradually become smaller or larger depending on the option for tall or short body instead of instant would be neat; but I dont think Skyrim works like that

It should be possible to say do a 1% change every X hours until the target has been reached, but the issue is that if that change triggers at certain times/events it could get messy/painful/crash time!

[botticelli]

13 hours ago, Tiruil said:

If only there was a way to gradually become smaller or larger depending on the option for tall or short body instead of instant would be neat; but I dont think Skyrim works like that

Have you ever heard of mile-high Skyrim? Any height change - be it via SetHeight() as done here or via SetScale in the console - has a chance of teleporting you to 0,0,0 (which is above Bleakwind Basin if outside in Skyrim). Doing this once for the mutation was worth the risk. I do not want the shitstorm for this happening every hour or so.

[ebbluminous]

2 hours ago, botticelli said:

Have you ever heard of mile-high Skyrim? Any height change - be it via SetHeight() as done here or via SetScale in the console - has a chance of teleporting you to 0,0,0 (which is above Bleakwind Basin if outside in Skyrim). Doing this once for the mutation was worth the risk. I do not want the shitstorm for this happening every hour or so.

Does this mean chaning your height might launch you in to space?

[botticelli]

43 minutes ago, ebbluminous said:

Does this mean chaning your height might launch you in to space?

yes. That's the reason for SexLab offering "Potential Startup CTD Fix" in the Animation Settings menu which will grey out "Even Actors Height" if tagged. The teleport mostly happens when still moving and it has a far greater chance when in 1st person as opposed to 3rd person. Also, it has not been completely eliminated in SE/AE, though it seems to appear less often.

If you've got the Shrink Self spellbook from Acolyte Jenssen, you can give it a try. There's a setting in BAC MCM to have that change your height either gradually or instantly. Set that to gradually and try it out while moving (especially running or sneaking in shallow water helps). I put a marker in the location where you cast that spell and move you back there when the change is done, so you might experience it only as a flicker.

Edited August 9, 2023 by botticelli

[cakeman]

On 8/1/2023 at 9:55 AM, darkmoon1234 said:

Thanks you very much, that helped a ton - managed to fix all the issues!

 

 

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Hey botticielli, do you know which cowhead mutation this one is? The face mutation I got only made my nose stick out a bit - I was hoping for something far more dramatic like what cakeman had.

 

Any guidance for how to achieve this would be appreciated

 

 

On 8/3/2023 at 12:21 AM, grafik said:

 

 

so yes, gave mine old setup a try...

 

Initially, I get the old BAC look, nothing like this above.

I am seeing the new udders, got that working...

 

Now shes looking like a white (flat white, no texture) stretched out human, with a tongue sticking out...

I am a bit lost in these 139 pages =C understanding it could be some rogue old files, but which, and were? what to remove...

 

Also when I was still human looking, the face didn't get furred like up above... hmmm

 

 Problem is simple enough, despite making the bPLayerOnly=1 into bPlayerOnly=0 I can't get the fur textures to apply to the face of ANY npc, at all

[botticelli]

6 hours ago, cakeman said:

 Problem is simple enough, despite making the bPLayerOnly=1 into bPlayerOnly=0 I can't get the fur textures to apply to the face of ANY npc, at all

and you have enabled enough slots for the face and of course also

[General]

bEnableFaceOverlays=1 ; Default[0]

 

[cakeman]

10 hours ago, botticelli said:

and you have enabled enough slots for the face and of course also

[General]

bEnableFaceOverlays=1 ; Default[0]

 

It was listed under "feasures" rather than "general" in skee64.ini but yes, it's set to 1
and yes I defeintly have enough slots, set each of them to 50, cuz better safe than sorry, still gonna add in the line under the general tab and see if it works, I'll get back to you on it tommrow

 

update: It did not help

Edited August 11, 2023 by cakeman

[dragongodmod117]

On 8/9/2023 at 10:58 AM, botticelli said:

Have you ever heard of mile-high Skyrim? Any height change - be it via SetHeight() as done here or via SetScale in the console - has a chance of teleporting you to 0,0,0 (which is above Bleakwind Basin if outside in Skyrim). Doing this once for the mutation was worth the risk. I do not want the shitstorm for this happening every hour or so.

 

On 8/9/2023 at 1:49 PM, botticelli said:

yes. That's the reason for SexLab offering "Potential Startup CTD Fix" in the Animation Settings menu which will grey out "Even Actors Height" if tagged. The teleport mostly happens when still moving and it has a far greater chance when in 1st person as opposed to 3rd person. Also, it has not been completely eliminated in SE/AE, though it seems to appear less often.

If you've got the Shrink Self spellbook from Acolyte Jenssen, you can give it a try. There's a setting in BAC MCM to have that change your height either gradually or instantly. Set that to gradually and try it out while moving (especially running or sneaking in shallow water helps). I put a marker in the location where you cast that spell and move you back there when the change is done, so you might experience it only as a flicker.

WAIT..... THAT'S why I keep falling from the skybox after sex?! I'm dumb. Don't know why I never looked this up/figured this out before...

[ebbluminous]

11 minutes ago, dragongodmod117 said:

 

WAIT..... THAT'S why I keep falling from the skybox after sex?! I'm dumb. Don't know why I never looked this up/figured this out before...

Todd Howard Logic™

[botticelli]

14 hours ago, cakeman said:

It was listed under "feasures" rather than "general" in skee64.ini but yes, it's set to 1

With SE/AE settings I have no experience. Anyone else here?

[masterofgamespl]

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Hey, Cow Head doesn't appear for me, I play on SE (AE) tho. 
I've downloaded LE head mesh, and then replaced heads folder with folder from heads.rar, but that didn't really do anything. Any ideas?

Edited August 11, 2023 by masterofgamespl

[botticelli]

7 hours ago, masterofgamespl said:

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Hey, Cow Head doesn't appear for me, I play on SE (AE) tho. 
I've downloaded LE head mesh, and then replaced heads folder with folder from heads.rar, but that didn't really do anything. Any ideas?

Do you play a vanilla race or a custom race?

[masterofgamespl]

10 minutes ago, botticelli said:

Do you play a vanilla race or a custom race?

Vanilla, it's a wood elf

[botticelli]

11 hours ago, masterofgamespl said:

Vanilla, it's a wood elf

...and BAC supposedly handed out CowHead mutations? Because they are not part of the regular circuit up until stage19 and only come as extra muattions.

[masterofgamespl]

52 minutes ago, botticelli said:

...and BAC supposedly handed out CowHead mutations? Because they are not part of the regular circuit up until stage19 and only come as extra muattions.

Wdym? I've already unlocked all extra mutations. I thought to unlock all mutations there are, before looking for errors. Fortunatly this one seems to be the only one. Also my character is a vampire, I think it breaks some stuff sometimes with some mods. 

Edited August 12, 2023 by masterofgamespl

[MysticDaedra]

What folder are the MCM settings located in?

[botticelli]

4 hours ago, masterofgamespl said:

Wdym? I've already unlocked all extra mutations. I thought to unlock all mutations there are, before looking for errors. Fortunatly this one seems to be the only one. Also my character is a vampire, I think it breaks some stuff sometimes with some mods. 

wood elf + vampire might be the problem. Did you get a message box saying something like "BAC CowHead: Custom race mod <xxx> no longer available! Aborting."? Or, alternatively a debug message stating "No standard face part found - Cow head not working!"?

[botticelli]

3 hours ago, MysticDaedra said:

What folder are the MCM settings located in?

No folder, Those are script properties except for the presets. Those are in data\SKSE\Plugins\StoragUtilData\BAC\

[masterofgamespl]

3 minutes ago, botticelli said:

wood elf + vampire might be the problem. Did you get a message box saying something like "BAC CowHead: Custom race mod <xxx> no longer available! Aborting."? Or, alternatively a debug message stating "No standard face part found - Cow head not working!"?

No I didn't get any error message about bac really

[La furie du Dragon]

Okay so I updated from 2.0 to 2.0.5, do I need to start a new save ? I already cleaned it in case it allows me to keep it, because I finished the whole Dawnguard questline and the main questline until The Fallen and it took me some time to get there, without me wanting do do all that again

[botticelli]

27 minutes ago, masterofgamespl said:

No I didn't get any error message about bac really

According to the head parts, it should work for both races WoodElfRace and WoodElfRaceVampire. I've never tested it with a wood elf vampire, though.

 

21 minutes ago, La furie du Dragon said:

Okay so I updated from 2.0 to 2.0.5, do I need to start a new save ?

As always: I could work - or not. That depends on your specific settings which I cannot anticipate.

[masterofgamespl]

11 minutes ago, botticelli said:

According to the head parts, it should work for both races WoodElfRace and WoodElfRaceVampire. I've never tested it with a wood elf vampire, though.

 

Yes that's it. I changed with showracemenu to nord, and it worked. It seems it doesn't work with bosmer vampire. Oh well. It works with normal wood elf thought right?