Sexout Wear and Tear

[dizzyman]

Yeah I had post sex messages enabled (and used v1.6); that's how I knew wear was often applied to the wrong orifice in Working Girl   I think you're right that the fault is with Working Girl.  I did double the healing rate around a day after getting a "trashed vagina" (maybe too late by then).

 

But currently, you can't tell how close you are to severe penalties until it's too late really - although it wasn't the biggest shock after all my PC had been doing.  If you prefer it that way then that's that then, and sexual arousal is a pain killer to some extent.

[Odessa]

Fast Healing takes effect as soon as you enable it, but it may still take a day or two or more with low endurance.

 

As for warnings when you get close to threshold, I'll add them in the next release.. though I don't want it to be too obvious how close you are because I like it keeping you worried. Got to say though, I think you've been 'working' a little too hard

 

In the mean time... if you want to get a rough idea:

 

The busted thresholds are 700, 800 and 500 for anal, vaginal, oral, you lose the effect at 300 and 1000 is the cap.

 

With 5 Endurance, no dehydration or radiation, you heal 250 / 500 / 1250 a day (MCM option doubles this)

[dizzyman]

I agree the risk should remain.  I guess only give a warning when potentially closer to the threshold than the next amount of wear you may take.

 

Yeah, over did it with the whoring a bit; though I'm saving up caps, and wanted to figure this mod out.

 

Thanks

[KainsChylde]

Hadn't seen this mentioned elsewhere. Adding the version to the name of the file makes updating awkward, as it doesn't overwrite old versions. This may be causing problems for users who "Install and Forget" and don't know to remove the old version.

[kman52434]

You should input a feature that tells you how stretched the character's holes are. For example, after having sex with a handful of people, the character's vagina/anus should be a little loose, and will get looser with continued sex without a few days of rest. If they keep going, their vagina would be a gaping hole. Just a thought to add to the wear and tear.

[Odessa]

You should input a feature that tells you how stretched the character's holes are. For example, after having sex with a handful of people, the character's vagina/anus should be a little loose, and will get looser with continued sex without a few days of rest. If they keep going, their vagina would be a gaping hole. Just a thought to add to the wear and tear.

 

I think it kind of already does, you have the status effects in pip-boy and if you turn the messages on you know how much wear you take each time.. the finer details are up to your imagination

 

I'll see about adding a rough indicator in MCM (maybe just low, medium or high) for next version, I don't want it to be too exact though, because I like the way not knowing exactly keeps you worrying. Although currently the more wear you already have, the more extra you take each time, so if the message values are getting high thats an indication.

[Odessa]

I have uploaded Version 2.0 of the mod, see OP and download page changelog for full details

 

It is a major update that adds effects for lubrication, buttplugs, implants, a wear doctor, status information in MCM and some other stuff.

[Odessa]

Uploaded version 2.1

 

Minor update fixes bug in v2.0 where weapons are not returned to the player when you leave Gomorrah during the Doctor's quest.

 

If you have encountered this bug already you can fix it by returning to the casino and then leaving again.

[Pantheress]

So, I think I might have found a bug in this mod.

It contains a french quest called SexoutWearReneQuest which is designated as Top-level under the Topics tab. This results in every conversation in the game containing a "GREETING" line which will reset the conversation if chosen.

[Odessa]

So, I think I might have found a bug in this mod.

It contains a french quest called SexoutWearReneQuest which is designated as Top-level under the Topics tab. This results in every conversation in the game containing a "GREETING" line which will reset the conversation if chosen.

 

It is easy to create this bug when working with the GECK, but i do not believe this is caused by my mod (I have encountered it during development and fixed it, and as a bug sometimes with many third party mods)

 

The GREETING topic is special and does not work like normal dialogue topics, I believe it is always top-level- check the vanilla dialogue quests, they are the same, but the options I add are conditional to one npc (Rene) and not linked back to, so unless you are seeing dialogue I added the bug is elsewhere.

 

 

Is it definitely with all NPCs in the game? and what is the dialogue response?

 

Also have you started the Quest, and if so what part of it are you at?

[Pantheress]

I only know that the GREETING line disappeared after I un-checked the Top-level box for that quest, and that it was only present when your mod was activated.

It was present in every conversation that allowed you to pick a response. When clicked, it only restarted the conversation however.

I don't know which quest is was, since I don't speak French, and I don't remember talking to anyone named Rene.

For reference, this is what I found:

 

 

[Odessa]

You are correct, the bug is mine- I managed to miss it because some other mod in my load order 'fixed' it, when I moved wear-and-tear to bottom I found it.

 

I've uploaded a new version with it fixed, thanks for the info.

 

 

Incidentally, you don't need to speak French to do the quest, there is just one character who does sometimes and you're not really expected to understand him (its explained in the quest)

[Pantheress]

Just glad I could help.

[Guest Devianza]

I just installed the mod today and ended up with "minor dehydration" and then advanced dehydration.  Advanced went away in 24 hours but minor just won't budge.  I think you said its tied to endurance?  My characters endurance is 8.

I also have healing set to double under options.

So I'm just curious what the trick is to get it to go away.





 

[Pantheress]

Those are Hardcore Mode effects, aren't they?

[Guest Devianza]

I have hardcore mode off and the game difficulty set to easy, so I'd have to say, no.

 

When my character has oral sex, by the 1st or 3rd time it gets minor dehydration as a result, and if I rest for 3-4 days it doesn't go away and if I have the character drink water it doesn't go away.  I tried a clean save just see if it was a bug but right after the character had oral sex, it came right back.





 

[Pantheress]

Performing oral actions increases your dehydration regardless of whether Hardcore mode is on or off, I guess.

Perhaps there should be a condition check to see if Hardcore is enabled before penalizing the needs.

You can fix it yourself by enabling Hardcore, drink some water(not sodas), cure dehydration and then switch Hardcore back off.

Or you can open the console and type "player.restoreav Dehydration X" where X is the number of points you want to decrease dehydration by. Should probably be 200 or more.

Warning: using the console will disable achievements, as far as I've heard.

[Guest Devianza]

I turned on hardcore and did the water thing and it did the trick.

But I'm thinking I may just leave hardcore mode on, it looks interesting and I imagine it adds a little depth to the sexout mods.  It also reminds me of the Sims because my player has to be fed and get the proper sleep.  The only thing I don't like about it is that ammo isn't weightless. 

Or I can just use the console cheat since I don't care about achievements.. decisions.. decisions.

 

[Odessa]

I turned on hardcore and did the water thing and it did the trick.

 

But I'm thinking I may just leave hardcore mode on, it looks interesting and I imagine it adds a little depth to the sexout mods.  It also reminds me of the Sims because my player has to be fed and get the proper sleep.  The only thing I don't like about it is that ammo isn't weightless. 

 

Or I can just use the console cheat since I don't care about achievements.. decisions.. decisions.

 

 

 

I never play without hardcore mode, so guess thats why I missed this bug... I'm suprised the developers didn't disable dehydration without hardcore mode.. but then theres a fair few vanilla hardcore mode on/off bugs..

 

The fixes Pantheress mentioned above will sort it out if you are experiencing it (turn on hardcore mode, drink water, turn back off)

 

Thanks for the bug report.

 

Update: I have uploaded a new version which fixes this issue so it will no longer occur. It will not remove existing dehydration, use the easy fix above.

[gubgu]

 

This mod doesn't seem to always be able to determine what manner of sexual act was performed.  Oral sex can result in a "busted" anus and vagina. 

 

I have noticed this too, when sex acts not involving the player are happening at the same time as one that does, you get the effects from all of them instead of just the one you were involved in. The SCR messages displayed are also confused by this, so the issue is not confined to my mod (but is only really significant in regard to it). I believe it is related to how lists are added to/cleared.

 

It might also happen if there is a lot of lag due to lots of scripts running- I've noticed odd behaviour in the powder kennel prison mod, and I think this might be why.

 

I am not sure how best to fix this yet.

 

 

Looking forward to the pregnancy related wear...

 

[Odessa]

Unfortunately there is none as pregnancy is part of an extension mod rather than Sexout NG. It would be easy to do if I made Pregnancy a requirement of my mod, but that would force everyone who uses my mod to download that one for just one feature.

 

If I find a way of adding it without making Pregnancy a mod requirement I will do so, but I believe that is difficult at best.

 

(To avoid any confusion, the bug mentioned in your quote was fixed a while ago)

[DoctaSax]

Well, Halstrom's interested in switching over Pregnancy to the nx system, which would perfectly allow looking up some information without making it a master. Of course, he has been rather busy this summer, so I don't know how far along he is now.

[Ellewah]

Sorry to post this here because I don't know where else I should write it for you to see it, but would you be interested in making "Wear and Tear" version for Skyrim's SexLab? I think its something essential and no one has made similar mod that I know of.

 

Cheers!

[Halstrom]

Well, Halstrom's interested in switching over Pregnancy to the nx system, which would perfectly allow looking up some information without making it a master. Of course, he has been rather busy this summer, so I don't know how far along he is now.

Just finished moving house, still unpacking, though I am around 80% done splitting drugs from SCR using the NX system and making the changes to Pregnancy to suit as well as converting another couple Pregnancy things to NX, I'll add in a NX variable for number of offspring birthed which should do what Odessa needs.

[DoctaSax]

Nobody caught the funny in "how far along he is"