SexLab Deadly Drain SE Enhanced - BETA

[777sage]

46 minutes ago, Someone92 said:

		"enhancedraintodeathkillvictimsdeceasedlethalnotfavorednpc02" : "%text1 life is already consumed. Disappointed, is already thinking of the consuming others.",

I think "%text2" is missing here.

Thanks for the catch, you can add it on your local for the time being. I have updated on mine for next time.

[Someone92]

10 hours ago, 777sage said:

Thanks for the catch, you can add it on your local for the time being. I have updated on mine for next time.

Btw, is the order important?

Or can I add

		"enhancedraintodeathplayerkillvictimalivefeeder03" : "Text",
		"enhancedraintodeathplayerkillvictimdeceaseddeadly02" : "Text",
		"enhancedraintodeathplayerkillvictimdeceaseddeadly03" : "Text",
		"enhancedraintodeathplayerkillvictimalivefeeder04" : "Text"
},

 

[777sage]

3 hours ago, Someone92 said:

Btw, is the order important?

Or can I add

		"enhancedraintodeathplayerkillvictimalivefeeder03" : "Text",
		"enhancedraintodeathplayerkillvictimdeceaseddeadly02" : "Text",
		"enhancedraintodeathplayerkillvictimdeceaseddeadly03" : "Text",
		"enhancedraintodeathplayerkillvictimalivefeeder04" : "Text"
},

 

No, order is not important for anything other than coherence for whomever is editing or adding entries. In the event you want to add another entry to a resource, be sure to update the count in the Int section for that resource. It would be easier for many to keep them grouped together. as it would also match the Int section order. For example:

 

String section:

"enhancedraintodeathplayerkillvictimdeceaseddeadly03" : "Text"

"enhancedraintodeathplayerkillvictimdeceaseddeadly04" : "Text"     < you added this

 

so, in the Int section you should update:

 

"enhancedraintodeathplayerkillvictimdeceaseddeadly" : 4, 

to

"enhancedraintodeathplayerkillvictimdeceaseddeadly" : 5,

 

since the count starts from 0, this is how it is handled. As far as the JSON util is concerned, it will look for that specific entry.

 

Edited April 10, 2023 by 777sage

[Someone92]

Ah, that's what the int values are for. ?

[OrcishOatmeal]

Ive started a new save today with the latest version, but it seems that "drain on death" is no longer working? Its taking health of the enemies though so I dont know whats wrong...

[777sage]

2 hours ago, dragondoom42 said:

Ive started a new save today with the latest version, but it seems that "drain on death" is no longer working? Its taking health of the enemies though so I dont know whats wrong...

 

You mean "Victim death from orgasm"? Some things could prevent it, relationshiprank with the victim could prevent it relative to your drainer level. If you are a Nymph or feeder, you wouldnt kill anyway (enhanced drainers only). It is also blocked if the NPC is essential or protected if "kill essential" is not enabled. Sex mods that modify the relationship rank between you and the victim could effect the outcome.

 

Are the victims relationship rank with you sufficient to be considered favorable?

What is your drainer level? 

Was autodrain and autodrain on orgasm enabled?

And are you using the SE/AE version or the LE version? 

 

 

I want to try and reproduce your issue.

[OrcishOatmeal]

15 minutes ago, 777sage said:

 

You mean "Victim death from orgasm"? Some things could prevent it, relationshiprank with the victim could prevent it relative to your drainer level. If you are a Nymph or feeder, you wouldnt kill anyway (enhanced drainers only). It is also blocked if the NPC is essential or protected if "kill essential" is not enabled. Sex mods that modify the relationship rank between you and the victim could effect the outcome.

 

Are the victims relationship rank with you sufficient to be considered favorable?

What is your drainer level? 

Was autodrain and autodrain on orgasm enabled?

And are you using the SE/AE version or the LE version? 

 

 

I want to try and reproduce your issue.

 

Ok, so, no idea about relationships but im using Sexlab Defeat to "surrender" to an enemy

Drainer level is set to 2, Enhance PC Drain is on and drain powers is on

Yep, autodrain for both is enabled

SE version, latest update

 

I also have multiple orgasms disabled as I have SLSO and Soulgem Oven 4

 

When the animation starts, i set up a hotkey to enable death drain, the text comes up to show that it is initiating

Edited April 11, 2023 by dragondoom42
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[777sage]

53 minutes ago, dragondoom42 said:

 

Ok, so, no idea about relationships but im using Sexlab Defeat to "surrender" to an enemy

Drainer level is set to 2, Enhance PC Drain is on and drain powers is on

Yep, autodrain for both is enabled

SE version, latest update

 

I also have multiple orgasms disabled as I have SLSO and Soulgem Oven 4

 

When the animation starts, i set up a hotkey to enable death drain, the text comes up to show that it is initiating

 

In the console, select the victim you were intending to kill and type "getrelationshiprank player"

 

If the victim's relationship rank with you is Ally or higher while you are level 2, you wont be willing to kill them.

 

You know, funny thing. I was just testing out SL Defeat Baka version, I encountered an issue where sometimes the bandits that violated my PC went into bleedout isntead. It seemed like either SL Defeat or some other mod that worked with it was making them essential or protected or something. I removed some other new mods that I had installed and tried it again with Defeat still active and it was behaving like it should. I was even able to get stolen stuff back without breaking the defeat quest.

 

I was testing out some mods that could initiate aggressive scenes, it wasn't until I stopped those that it was able to kill them normally. Of course, in my case I always resisted. I'll try it out and surrender to them. Though i don't rely on Victim death from orgasm, the kill decision is usually enough. Can you try setting your drain level to 4 (Psychopath) and see if the issue persists? Ill try things out on my end.

[OrcishOatmeal]

12 minutes ago, 777sage said:

 

In the console, select the victim you were intending to kill and type "getrelationshiprank player"

 

If the victim's relationship rank with you is Ally or higher while you are level 2, you wont be willing to kill them.

 

You know, funny thing. I was just testing out SL Defeat Baka version, I encountered an issue where sometimes the bandits that violated my PC went into bleedout isntead. It seemed like either SL Defeat or some other mod that worked with it was making them essential or protected or something. I removed some other new mods that I had installed and tried it again with Defeat still active and it was behaving like it should. I was even able to get stolen stuff back without breaking the defeat quest.

 

I was testing out some mods that could initiate aggressive scenes, it wasn't until I stopped those that it was able to kill them normally. Of course, in my case I always resisted. I'll try it out and surrender to them. Though i don't rely on Victim death from orgasm, the kill decision is usually enough. Can you try setting your drain level to 4 (Psychopath) and see if the issue persists? Ill try things out on my end.

 

Ok, the level is 0 (Acquaintance) For the enemy, (Random wolfs in cave) after making sure the text says it will kill them, they dont die

 

However, I set my drain level to 4 and it works

[777sage]

12 minutes ago, dragondoom42 said:

 

Ok, the level is 0 (Acquaintance) For the enemy, (Random wolfs in cave) after making sure the text says it will kill them, they dont die

 

However, I set my drain level to 4 and it works

 

Hm... if I interpreted right, your victims are wolves/creatures. I have done no testing on non-human entities though I heard people trying it with a giant. In my testing, I was at level 2 and simply decided to kill them when it worked. I was just trying to see if the relationship rank changed before, during, and after sex. You may have a mod that does changes the relationship rank, since psychopath ignores relationship ranks completely and it happens to work for you. Another way to check this is see if auto drain to death on orgasm works while the Enhance Player drain feature is NOT active.

[OrcishOatmeal]

13 hours ago, 777sage said:

 

Hm... if I interpreted right, your victims are wolves/creatures. I have done no testing on non-human entities though I heard people trying it with a giant. In my testing, I was at level 2 and simply decided to kill them when it worked. I was just trying to see if the relationship rank changed before, during, and after sex. You may have a mod that does changes the relationship rank, since psychopath ignores relationship ranks completely and it happens to work for you. Another way to check this is see if auto drain to death on orgasm works while the Enhance Player drain feature is NOT active.

 

I'll give it another try with humonoid characters and see what happens, I'll look into how this relationship rank works now

 

 

Ok, I unticked the Enhahced PC Drain and all of a sudden its working, i havent changed anything else (Drain level still at 2)  the Relationship rank for the wolf never changed also

Edited April 12, 2023 by dragondoom42

[777sage]

Can you recreate the problem and share your logs? Be sure to have both traceing and logging enabled in your INI.

[CrawfordeL]

I'm not sure if this was addressed already or if its not even a bug. It seems when you did the climax code changes for version 0.8d to 0.8e, when a NPC drainer in a scene with only other NPCs, drain on climax only happens about 10% of the time. I thought it was a bug with my SLSO until I read your changelogs and sure enough switching back fixed it.

Edited April 13, 2023 by Bobguy0

[NNS10]

Are the new stat buffs from draining in v0.9.4 permanent?

[Kingz02]

I cant seem to get this Mod to work smh. I have set my rank to 4 (Psychopath) but when I enter an Animation my Character never drains the target. When i click on my Drain to death hotkey the text thats supposed to show up doesnt show up either. Ive tried Auto Drain but it still doesnt work :/.

[Someone92]

Have you enabled Player Enhanced Draining or something like that?

[-alpha-]

Hello~
Was hoping to get some clarification as I'm probably doing something wrong.
 

I have my PC set to L1 with enhanced PC drain.
The auto drain and auto drain on org as well as death from org drain.

I've set a button to allow death drain.

All good so far, the idea here is feeding when "working" in a tavern.

However when the need to kill an NPC arises, I hit the death hot key and my PC says "I wont do that" or something to that effect.
no worries I have her set to L1.

 

However if I set her to L2 then tavern customers will sometimes not survive the encounter.

The Death hotkey doesnt appear to really matter?

I have to hit the key, she'll say that she'll kill this one then hit it again and she'll spare this one?

 

Basically what Im really trying to get is.
Feed on anyone anytime without killing, but if I hit the Death key then they die.

L1 to passive and L2 at times too aggressive.
 

The Dearth on org seem to overrule most settings and the die from manual drain seems clunky.

 

Would it not be simpler to have it

Death key always kill if pressed - overrules all
-why does it exist then? if you want to spare someone and you're L3 or 4 then a spare life button makes more sense.
Death from org removed 

-I love this effect but its kinda dumb either you're killing based on rank or killing by pressing the death key

Death hotkey affects manual drain / victims dies when manually drained

-2 options kinda redundant, the death key should be supreme, manual drain all you want unless you hit the death button.

 

Sorry if I sound pushy that's not my intention.

Thanks for the awesome recent update

 

 

Oh one last thing that I noticed, 
Exclude female NPC/Followers doesn't seem to work if someone could confirm.

[Kingz02]

18 hours ago, Someone92 said:

Have you enabled Player Enhanced Draining or something like that?

I tried it with enhanced pc drain enabled and disabled, the outcome is still the same,it just simply refuses to work

[777sage]

On 4/16/2023 at 1:16 PM, Kingz02 said:

I cant seem to get this Mod to work smh. I have set my rank to 4 (Psychopath) but when I enter an Animation my Character never drains the target. When i click on my Drain to death hotkey the text thats supposed to show up doesnt show up either. Ive tried Auto Drain but it still doesnt work :/.

 

Can you enable logs and traces and reproduce the issue? Then share the logs with me? I am wondering if you are encountering the Player in Thread -1 issue.

[777sage]

On 4/16/2023 at 8:34 AM, NNS10 said:

Are the new stat buffs from draining in v0.9.4 permanent?

No. Essence drain buffs should be persistent, but not permanent. It would go away entirely if you removed the drainer OR you neglect your diet too many times. Along the way, you should receive notifications of neglect or power lost.

[777sage]

On 4/16/2023 at 7:28 PM, -alpha- said:

Hello~
Was hoping to get some clarification as I'm probably doing something wrong.
 

I have my PC set to L1 with enhanced PC drain.
The auto drain and auto drain on org as well as death from org drain.

I've set a button to allow death drain.

All good so far, the idea here is feeding when "working" in a tavern.

However when the need to kill an NPC arises, I hit the death hot key and my PC says "I wont do that" or something to that effect.
no worries I have her set to L1.

 

However if I set her to L2 then tavern customers will sometimes not survive the encounter.

The Death hotkey doesnt appear to really matter?

I have to hit the key, she'll say that she'll kill this one then hit it again and she'll spare this one?

 

Basically what Im really trying to get is.
Feed on anyone anytime without killing, but if I hit the Death key then they die.

L1 to passive and L2 at times too aggressive.
 

The Dearth on org seem to overrule most settings and the die from manual drain seems clunky.

 

Would it not be simpler to have it

Death key always kill if pressed - overrules all
-why does it exist then? if you want to spare someone and you're L3 or 4 then a spare life button makes more sense.
Death from org removed 

-I love this effect but its kinda dumb either you're killing based on rank or killing by pressing the death key

Death hotkey affects manual drain / victims dies when manually drained

-2 options kinda redundant, the death key should be supreme, manual drain all you want unless you hit the death button.

 

Sorry if I sound pushy that's not my intention.

Thanks for the awesome recent update

 

 

Oh one last thing that I noticed, 
Exclude female NPC/Followers doesn't seem to work if someone could confirm.

 

The death from orgasm option was there since the original version of SLDD. I never bothered removing it because I wanted to maintain the original versions functionality. Maybe I should put description warnings there? You typically should NOT have it enabled while using enhanced functions. But because you could have either enhance drain options enabled at that time, while the other one is not, I didn't suppress it. Ill have to go over it.

 

You won't kill your victim if your drainer rank is a nymph(0) or feeder(1). There is a rubric of this on the mod page. The

 

The spare life button is there for original functionality. In other words, the allow death hotkey is both the kill and spare button. What prompts you get depend on your drainer level, your relationship with the victim, and what the kill decision IS at the time the button was pressed. So if you are the level of lethal(3) or Psychopath(4), your kill decision defaults to true. Otherwise it will be false.

 

If you are looking for a mix, set yourself to level 2. And simply ensure your kill decision is true when you want to spare them, or hit the death key and then proceed to drain them to death where they typically die after the scene. If you have allow manual drain death active, they could be drained to death at any point during the animation, which is kind of unsafe but should still work. If you want the decision dialogue to be different, you can edit them in the DIAL json file.

 

Interesting, the drain exclusions should work if they are detected to be of that sex or are in the follower faction. I'll give it a run through again on my local. I fear it is also possible to fail if it is a custom follower faction situation too. Something like a sex follower with its own faction could be in the mix... Hmmm... Either way, thanks for the feedback.

[777sage]

On 4/12/2023 at 5:16 AM, OrcishOatmeal said:

 

I'll give it another try with humonoid characters and see what happens, I'll look into how this relationship rank works now

 

 

Ok, I unticked the Enhahced PC Drain and all of a sudden its working, i havent changed anything else (Drain level still at 2)  the Relationship rank for the wolf never changed also

This is interesting, can you share your logs? I want to know why it worked only when you stopped the enhanced functions. That is not intended. When you reproduce the issue for the logs, please have Debug traces enabled in your INI too.

Edited April 19, 2023 by 777sage

[777sage]

On 4/13/2023 at 2:10 AM, Bobguy0 said:

I'm not sure if this was addressed already or if its not even a bug. It seems when you did the climax code changes for version 0.8d to 0.8e, when a NPC drainer in a scene with only other NPCs, drain on climax only happens about 10% of the time. I thought it was a bug with my SLSO until I read your changelogs and sure enough switching back fixed it.

Interesting. I'll be sure to keep an eye out for this issue for sure.

[darkangel2041]

Hello,

 

First I would say thank you for improving this mod, it has always be my favourite succubus mod on LE.

 

However, I really need help. I made a lot of tests but I don't manage to kill someone with manual drain (I only want manual drain to kill mainly bandits). (For testing purpose "Auto kill" on orgasm kill the partner (immediately even with the new kill calculation on, but a least he dies !)). I also remember that one time I managed to kill on manual drain during some tests I did when I was building up my mod list a few weeks ago).

 

When I activate manual draining during a scene, I see the animation (with red/black glow) and a magical effect in the upper right side on the screen. But the partner doesn't die at the end the animation. I noticed in the magical list an effect called "orgams" with a value of zero to absorb life (see first picture attached). It might be the problem ? I don't know if and where I can change that is SSEdit).

 

Here are the parameters I tried (On/off), but maybe I miss the correct combination of settings. Any advice on recommended settings may help :

 

SLDD : Succubus level : always on 4 (for testing purpose)

SLDD : Enhance PC drain (on/off)

SL : Use separate orgasm (on/off)

SLSO : Game (on/off)

+ other settings that seems less important

 

I would also say that I have an huge mod list and I wonder if it could be a performance issue (But I don't think with the symptoms I see!)

 

Thanks in advance for any help ?

 

 

 

 

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[Someone92]

Maybe add this to the mod description

 

Not compatible with SexLab p+ SLSO Patch

 

So we can prevent out one point of issues entirely.