SexLab Deadly Drain SE Enhanced - BETA

[777sage]

2 hours ago, wiffe said:

or this mod is iincompatible with succubus heart? btw i using sexlab 1.63 se.. i'll try again later whn on pc, thank u for ur respond
did i need to instal sexlab inflantion? or i need run fnis too to work with this mod?

EDIT : i was try uninstalling succubus heart, BV, and Sacrosanct, but the drain still not work:( and i remember ever using this mod too in Skyrim AE and everything is work but when i use this mod in SE, mod is not working.. maybe there any mod conflict with this mod, but i dont know.. any chanche too fix it?:(  i'll still use, cause this mod still helpfully for progress rank in BV even though I can't use drain

 

Succubus Heart reportedly influences the player directly, I am not sure if SLDD and SH are in conflict with one another as I don't use Succubus Heart at all. I've only heard of it.

 

It's hard for me to fix it when I don't know whats going on in your game. So lets try it this way. In SLDD MCM, is autodrain enabled? 

 

1. Which version of SLDD are you using? Default, Better Vampires, Vampiric Thirst, or Sacrosanct? (It seems you mentioned both BV and Sacrosanct so I am concerned.)
2. Can you enable trace log in your game, test it in a fresh new game and send me the trace logs? I am also using sexlab 1.63se last i checked.

 

Sexlab inflation is recommended if you want to use body drain features with body mods like 3BA (3BBB). I use it, but I dont use body drain in SLDD personally.

 

SLDD has no FNIS related animations built in, I dont think you need to run FNIS for this mod but its usually a safe thing to try.

 

What I am trying to get you to do is to test it on a new save game so I can see if SLDD itself is the problem or another mod is. If you are coming from a save that used the original SSE port of SLDD, there are steps you have to take to get everything working. In that new game, try it without Succubus Heart installed. You could install Player Succubus Quest in its place if you prefer. If you use mod organizer, you don't have to remove your mods, just create a new profile and only enable important mods like SLDD, sexlab, sexlab aroused, and etc...

 

Ensure PapyrusUtil is also installed.

 

Also, can you send a screenshot of your SLDD settings? What scenario were you trying get working. Are you the drainer? Or is the NPC the drainer?

Edited August 29, 2022 by 777sage

[wiffe]

47 minutes ago, 777sage said:

 

Succubus Heart reportedly influences the player directly, I am not sure if SLDD and SH are in conflict with one another as I don't use Succubus Heart at all. I've only heard of it.

 

It's hard for me to fix it when I don't know whats going on in your game. So lets try it this way. In SLDD MCM, is autodrain enabled? 

 

1. Which version of SLDD are you using? Default, Better Vampires, Vampiric Thirst, or Sacrosanct? (It seems you mentioned both BV and Sacrosanct so I am concerned.)
2. Can you enable trace log in your game, test it in a fresh new game and send me the trace logs? I am also using sexlab 1.63se last i checked.

 

Sexlab inflation is recommended if you want to use body drain features with body mods like 3BA (3BBB). I use it, but I dont use body drain in SLDD personally.

 

SLDD has no FNIS related animations built in, I dont think you need to run FNIS for this mod but its usually a safe thing to try.

 

What I am trying to get you to do is to test it on a new save game so I can see if SLDD itself is the problem or another mod is. If you are coming from a save that used the original SSE port of SLDD, there are steps you have to take to get everything working. In that new game, try it without Succubus Heart installed. You could install Player Succubus Quest in its place if you prefer. If you use mod organizer, you don't have to remove your mods, just create a new profile and only enable important mods like SLDD, sexlab, sexlab aroused, and etc...

 

Ensure PapyrusUtil is also installed.

 

Also, can you send a screenshot of your SLDD settings? What scenario were you trying get working. Are you the drainer? Or is the NPC the drainer?

omggg, after i instaling PSQ everything is work noww... thank u for ur respond !!!

[Wilsonng]

On 8/29/2022 at 4:29 AM, 777sage said:

Uploaded update,  please check if your reported issues have been resolved. Also, try out the updated nursing feature and the skill drain debuff and let me know if you have any issues.

Thank you for your update

[a117]

On 8/2/2022 at 11:14 AM, a117 said:

Thanks for the great drain life:)

"Drain Value Multipliers" numbers are 0.00, which is causing a problem.

 

For example, you set it at 1.00, but before you know it, it's back to zero.

Can't figure out why?

 

At some point, the PSQ setting is set to 0.00.
This has not been fixed even with 0.9.3.

[foreveraloneguy]

On 6/13/2021 at 3:22 PM, MuchW0W said:

Anyone else use BHUNP? any problems with size gain/drain would like to know if someone has it working perfectly so I know where to start looking at my mod list lol

by drain i mean sucking people skinny / to death and then gaining there size and enlarging portions of body. 

 

Works for my PC and I use BHUNP. I also use SLIF, so that handles the actual morphing.

Edited September 6, 2022 by foreveraloneguy

[foreveraloneguy]

On 9/4/2022 at 5:20 PM, a117 said:

 

At some point, the PSQ setting is set to 0.00.
This has not been fixed even with 0.9.3.

 

Same

[777sage]

On 9/4/2022 at 6:20 PM, a117 said:

 

At some point, the PSQ setting is set to 0.00.
This has not been fixed even with 0.9.3.

Ah ok, ill investigate. Thanks for reporting this. Im not sure why its still pre-emptively setting it to 0.00. It should only do it during the later stages of the scene and resetting back. Whatever, ill look for an alternative method to handle this.

[777sage]

On 9/5/2022 at 6:48 PM, foreveraloneguy said:

 

Same

I just tried it in a new game for me. On the third stage its set to 0.00. Then when the scene ends the value is restored to whatever I have. I recorded video it from my system and my trace logs match. The only thing I can think of is that lag could be involved. The function PSQ uses is an event thats fired, meaning it could run and finsih sooner or later than an an ideal situation. Either way, how I handle this has to change in order to manage it. But I believe what you suggested before works. Simply unchecking Allow Kill by Drain in PSQ and disable PSQ Satiation in SLDD seems to resolve the issue. I'll make some changes, perhaps messing with the exp value is just unnecessary after all. 

But back then I think I experienced NPCs dying anyway. And I observed that having long sex with as a feeder with PSQ active resulted in life being taken from the victim even though a feeder wouldn't drain life. Its the reason the Drain value multiplier is being handled by SLDD.. SLDD is supposed to wait until the second to last stage:

 

1. Grab the multiplier value and store it. Set multiplier to 0.00 for now
2. At climax, PSQ does its thing along with SLDD
3. SLDD uses the stored multiplier value and calls on PSQ's functions
4. When the scene ends, restore PSQs multiplier back to whatever the player had it at the time of step 1

 

My impression of your reports is that it does everything except the last step. Does this sound right?

Edited September 10, 2022 by 777sage

[foreveraloneguy]

10 minutes ago, 777sage said:

I just tried it in a new game for me. On the third stage its set to 0.00. Then when the scene ends the value is restored to whatever I have. I recorded video it from my system and my trace logs match. The only thing I can think of is that lag could be involved. The function PSQ uses is an event thats fired, meaning it could run and finsih sooner or later than an an ideal situation. Either way, how I handle this has to change in order to manage it. But I believe what you suggested before works. Simply unchecking Allow Kill by Drain in PSQ and disable PSQ Satiation in SLDD seems to resolve the issue. I'll make some changes, perhaps messing with the exp value is just unnecessary after all. 

But back then I think I experienced NPCs dying anyway. And I observed that having long sex with as a feeder with PSQ active resulted in life being taken from the victim even though a feeder wouldn't drain life. Its the reason the Drain value multiplier is being handled by SLDD.. SLDD is supposed to wait until the second stage:

 

1. Grab the multiplier value and store it. Set multiplier to 0.00 for now
2. At climax, PSQ does its thing along with SLDD
3. SLDD uses the stored multiplier value and calls on PSQ's functions
4. When the scene ends, restore PSQs multiplier back to whatever the player had it at the time of step 1

 

My impression of your reports is that it does everything except the last step. Does this sound right?

 

That's 99% correct. The original value for PSQ is eventually restored, but sometimes this takes some minutes to happen. This is what makes me think this almost has to be script lag. That, and when I see this symptom of the problem I also see that neither satiation nor succubus skill points increase. I pulled a couple of script heavy mods out of my load order for this playthrough, and it's slightly better. But then I also still have a crapton of script heavy mods installed.

[777sage]

8 minutes ago, foreveraloneguy said:

 

That's 99% correct. The original value for PSQ is eventually restored, but sometimes this takes some minutes to happen. This is what makes me think this almost has to be script lag. That, and when I see this symptom of the problem I also see that neither satiation nor succubus skill points increase. I pulled a couple of script heavy mods out of my load order for this playthrough, and it's slightly better. But then I also still have a crapton of script heavy mods installed.

 

Lets try something. Based on the details you provided, lets to see what happens when you disable Succubus Drain in PSQ but let SLDD run its course with PSQ satiation enabled. I've found that SLDD will still call PSQs functions. Set your multiplier before starting, and let me know how it goes. In my game, PSQ wont try to run its processes on its own. But SLDD may proceed with PSQ function calls and events just fine.

Reasoning is that the enable succubus drain option in PSQ's MCM uses the length of time you had sex, without it no health is drained as far as I can tell. You may still get PSQs exp notifications but SLDD can handle whatever comes after and advance satiation. Im basically hoping that this change makes it run faster for you so you actually gain exp too.

 

If the problem improves, but doesnt quite get it right. Then I can try to make its so that PSQ's processes are called at run time of SLDD's ending stage.

[foreveraloneguy]

7 hours ago, 777sage said:

 

Lets try something. Based on the details you provided, lets to see what happens when you disable Succubus Drain in PSQ but let SLDD run its course with PSQ satiation enabled. I've found that SLDD will still call PSQs functions. Set your multiplier before starting, and let me know how it goes. In my game, PSQ wont try to run its processes on its own. But SLDD may proceed with PSQ function calls and events just fine.

Reasoning is that the enable succubus drain option in PSQ's MCM uses the length of time you had sex, without it no health is drained as far as I can tell. You may still get PSQs exp notifications but SLDD can handle whatever comes after and advance satiation. Im basically hoping that this change makes it run faster for you so you actually gain exp too.

 

If the problem improves, but doesnt quite get it right. Then I can try to make its so that PSQ's processes are called at run time of SLDD's ending stage.

 

I gave this a swirl, and it does work better than having PSQ drain enabled and enabling the modifiers in SLDD. Experience was gained as expected and satiation increased until max. The only downside is that I saw satiation then suddenly decrease by between 25-75% a few seconds after the end of the animation. I tried it a few times thinking it could be because I was with another drainer. But even trying it with a non-drainer NPC I still saw the sudden decrease in satiation after the animation ended. I also think that could be a bug in PSQ because I've also seen that behavior right after becoming a succubus until I can finally get satiation to max the first time. After than, satiation seemed to behave normally.

Short term, I can just work around this by consuming semen potions to keep satiation from getting dangerously low, since death by starvation is enabled.

[777sage]

13 hours ago, foreveraloneguy said:

 

I gave this a swirl, and it does work better than having PSQ drain enabled and enabling the modifiers in SLDD. Experience was gained as expected and satiation increased until max. The only downside is that I saw satiation then suddenly decrease by between 25-75% a few seconds after the end of the animation. I tried it a few times thinking it could be because I was with another drainer. But even trying it with a non-drainer NPC I still saw the sudden decrease in satiation after the animation ended. I also think that could be a bug in PSQ because I've also seen that behavior right after becoming a succubus until I can finally get satiation to max the first time. After than, satiation seemed to behave normally.

Short term, I can just work around this by consuming semen potions to keep satiation from getting dangerously low, since death by starvation is enabled.

 

PSQ has some nuances. Sometimes the satiation bar is reduced to activate other native effects, take improved mana regen for example. I dont fully understand it. But from what you've told me it sounds like we are making progress. If a lot of mods are reliant on the last event of SexLab, it could in fact delay the reset of the values because SLDD is too. Each event relies on a separate thread to process it. And the only reason I made the PSQ Satiation a part of it is because players can go from climax back to a previous state using shift + advance stage hotkeys at any time. So I wanted to mitigate potential issues. But with this information, the recommendation for SLDD PSQ support may shift to simply disabling PSQs succubus drain so that the timers are not relevant. This may also make the manipulation of the drain multipliers no longer needed.

Is satiation working every drain for you? That part still works for me. Appreciate your feedback.

[foreveraloneguy]

5 hours ago, 777sage said:

 

PSQ has some nuances. Sometimes the satiation bar is reduced to activate other native effects, take improved mana regen for example. I dont fully understand it. But from what you've told me it sounds like we are making progress. If a lot of mods are reliant on the last event of SexLab, it could in fact delay the reset of the values because SLDD is too. Each event relies on a separate thread to process it. And the only reason I made the PSQ Satiation a part of it is because players can go from climax back to a previous state using shift + advance stage hotkeys at any time. So I wanted to mitigate potential issues. But with this information, the recommendation for SLDD PSQ support may shift to simply disabling PSQs succubus drain so that the timers are not relevant. This may also make the manipulation of the drain multipliers no longer needed.

Is satiation working every drain for you? That part still works for me. Appreciate your feedback.

 

Neither satiation nor succubus skill seem to be increasing consistently. Leaving the modifiers disabled and just configuring PSQ to handle draining, with kill by drain disabled, still seems the most consistent way to get PSQ values to increase. In fact, doing it that way is nearly bullet proof as far as PSQ values. Just occasionally kills an NPC you didn't want to.

[a117]

Is this normal in 0.9.3?

I think I used to count the numbers.
The more we drained, the bigger the number was.

 

and When the PSQ is installed, there is a feature that raises the Relationship, so no matter how much you want to kill someone, their Rank will rise and you will say, "No, I can't kill them!" Can't you do something about it?

Edited September 12, 2022 by a117

[777sage]

On 9/12/2022 at 5:17 AM, a117 said:

Is this normal in 0.9.3?

I think I used to count the numbers.
The more we drained, the bigger the number was.

 

and When the PSQ is installed, there is a feature that raises the Relationship, so no matter how much you want to kill someone, their Rank will rise and you will say, "No, I can't kill them!" Can't you do something about it?

 

 

Yes that is to be expected. It had a counter that updated with the amount drained. The problem was that it meant nothing. I changed it to show I plan to change it to something more useful.

 

So theres a feature in PSQ that increases the relationship rank of those you have sex with? Interesting, I'll have to check it out, I don't think I have ever encountered it.

[777sage]

On 9/11/2022 at 5:13 PM, foreveraloneguy said:

 

Neither satiation nor succubus skill seem to be increasing consistently. Leaving the modifiers disabled and just configuring PSQ to handle draining, with kill by drain disabled, still seems the most consistent way to get PSQ values to increase. In fact, doing it that way is nearly bullet proof as far as PSQ values. Just occasionally kills an NPC you didn't want to.

 

Understood.

[Wilsonng]

On 8/29/2022 at 11:36 PM, 777sage said:

 

Succubus Heart reportedly influences the player directly, I am not sure if SLDD and SH are in conflict with one another as I don't use Succubus Heart at all. I've only heard of it.

 

It's hard for me to fix it when I don't know whats going on in your game. So lets try it this way. In SLDD MCM, is autodrain enabled? 

 

1. Which version of SLDD are you using? Default, Better Vampires, Vampiric Thirst, or Sacrosanct? (It seems you mentioned both BV and Sacrosanct so I am concerned.)
2. Can you enable trace log in your game, test it in a fresh new game and send me the trace logs? I am also using sexlab 1.63se last i checked.

 

Sexlab inflation is recommended if you want to use body drain features with body mods like 3BA (3BBB). I use it, but I dont use body drain in SLDD personally.

 

SLDD has no FNIS related animations built in, I dont think you need to run FNIS for this mod but its usually a safe thing to try.

 

What I am trying to get you to do is to test it on a new save game so I can see if SLDD itself is the problem or another mod is. If you are coming from a save that used the original SSE port of SLDD, there are steps you have to take to get everything working. In that new game, try it without Succubus Heart installed. You could install Player Succubus Quest in its place if you prefer. If you use mod organizer, you don't have to remove your mods, just create a new profile and only enable important mods like SLDD, sexlab, sexlab aroused, and etc...

 

Ensure PapyrusUtil is also installed.

 

Also, can you send a screenshot of your SLDD settings? What scenario were you trying get working. Are you the drainer? Or is the NPC the drainer?

 

Succubus Heart has drain option

It seems that it is conflicted with this mod

[MOreal]

Sorry for my poor English. Briefly saying, most functions of this mod didn't work.

I can't drain my victim to death. There's no visual effects, no FEC effect, no drain magica (drain stamina happened, but that may be the effect of PSQ), no drain atrributes, no skill drain. My victims are mostly robbers. but I also tried on other NPCs, nothing changed.

My version is Skyrim SE 1.5.97, with Sexlab Framework 1.63 Dev Beta 8, Papyrus Extensions, Sexlab Aroused Redux, PSQ, Sancrosanct and FEC. No other related mod.

My setting in MCM is as below. In fact I have changed my setting and tried for several times, but nothing changed.

 

 

 

After this I tried the "SexLab Deadly Drain - SSE Port" By war11010, this time I can see red visual effcts during the animation, but nothing happened except for this.

 

I've read the introduction of original LE version mod, and most of the update logs and some questions in this thread, but I'm still confused about how this mod work. I'll be appreciated if someone can let me know:

1. What's the spell "MAKE DRAIN SLAVE" mean? Does it mean, I have to use this on a NPC, then I could drain him to death?

2. the "DRAIN HOTKEY" and "ALLOW DEATH DRAIN HOTKEY" make me confused. Should I press them during the sex animation? When I use them, nothing happened, even no text information.

[Someone92]

Most recent version for 1.5.97 is SexLabFrameworkSE_v163. Try if that version fixes it.

[Valhaz]

Hi, Is it possible to disable climax stage life drain? No matther how I configure through MCM (basic/enhance NPC drain, drain speed settings... etc), she always drain me all but 1 single HP (player as male and follower as female drainer). I tried out all 0~4 give drain skill but couldn't found solution.

[moody132]

Unfortunetly, this mod doesn't work for me at all. Tried on new save. However, Old version (SSE port by war11010)  is working properly. On this one only thing i can do is switch powers on and off. Auto Drain doesnt work, manual drain, drain on orgasm, nothing really.

I am using Sacroscant, SL Aroused Redux by Baka, FEC, Sunhelm, and SLSO.

Any idea what can be the problem?

[Wilsonng]

On 10/12/2022 at 4:23 AM, moody132 said:

Unfortunetly, this mod doesn't work for me at all. Tried on new save. However, Old version (SSE port by war11010)  is working properly. On this one only thing i can do is switch powers on and off. Auto Drain doesnt work, manual drain, drain on orgasm, nothing really.

I am using Sacroscant, SL Aroused Redux by Baka, FEC, Sunhelm, and SLSO.

Any idea what can be the problem?

 

have you give the player drain power in the mod?

[Wilsonng]

On 10/4/2022 at 10:36 PM, MOreal said:

Sorry for my poor English. Briefly saying, most functions of this mod didn't work.

I can't drain my victim to death. There's no visual effects, no FEC effect, no drain magica (drain stamina happened, but that may be the effect of PSQ), no drain atrributes, no skill drain. My victims are mostly robbers. but I also tried on other NPCs, nothing changed.

My version is Skyrim SE 1.5.97, with Sexlab Framework 1.63 Dev Beta 8, Papyrus Extensions, Sexlab Aroused Redux, PSQ, Sancrosanct and FEC. No other related mod.

My setting in MCM is as below. In fact I have changed my setting and tried for several times, but nothing changed.

 

 

 

After this I tried the "SexLab Deadly Drain - SSE Port" By war11010, this time I can see red visual effcts during the animation, but nothing happened except for this.

 

I've read the introduction of original LE version mod, and most of the update logs and some questions in this thread, but I'm still confused about how this mod work. I'll be appreciated if someone can let me know:

1. What's the spell "MAKE DRAIN SLAVE" mean? Does it mean, I have to use this on a NPC, then I could drain him to death?

2. the "DRAIN HOTKEY" and "ALLOW DEATH DRAIN HOTKEY" make me confused. Should I press them during the sex animation? When I use them, nothing happened, even no text information.

 

1. make drain slave. I dont use it ,it is useless. you can use spell hypnosis drain npc to death

you can see this video

https://cn.pornhub.com/view_video.php?viewkey=ph5e324130157d4

use the spell on npc. he/she will have sex with your character. and you can drain them to death during amination

 

or you can refer to this video

https://cn.pornhub.com/view_video.php?viewkey=ph5e4c1d9af121a

 

2. I have try manual and automatic drain both. if you use manual drain, you can set hotkey. when you enter the hotkey, your character will start to drain(the red + black effect in the video). if you use automatic drain, it will appear drain effect automatically.

 

if you dont know what is deadly drain, see the two video, it display what it is

[Wilsonng]

On 9/11/2022 at 1:46 AM, 777sage said:

 

Lets try something. Based on the details you provided, lets to see what happens when you disable Succubus Drain in PSQ but let SLDD run its course with PSQ satiation enabled. I've found that SLDD will still call PSQs functions. Set your multiplier before starting, and let me know how it goes. In my game, PSQ wont try to run its processes on its own. But SLDD may proceed with PSQ function calls and events just fine.

Reasoning is that the enable succubus drain option in PSQ's MCM uses the length of time you had sex, without it no health is drained as far as I can tell. You may still get PSQs exp notifications but SLDD can handle whatever comes after and advance satiation. Im basically hoping that this change makes it run faster for you so you actually gain exp too.

 

If the problem improves, but doesnt quite get it right. Then I can try to make its so that PSQ's processes are called at run time of SLDD's ending stage.

 

I know why there is a problem after sex animation. After sex animation, the NPC should die and the NPC should lay down.

But in my case, it is always that the copse is floating in the air.

It is because the NPC die during sex animation, e.g. attacked by other npc or bear or something

[777sage]

9 hours ago, Wilsonng said:

 

I know why there is a problem after sex animation. After sex animation, the NPC should die and the NPC should lay down.

But in my case, it is always that the copse is floating in the air.

It is because the NPC die during sex animation, e.g. attacked by other npc or bear or something

 

This does need to be checked, but Sexlab itself cant account for everything, not even combat scenarios. Typically when an NPC dies, SL ends the animation.