Naked Defeat AE/SE

[Talesien]

5 hours ago, TFor2 said:

Nymra is a genius and loves this mod.   He will return with an updated masterpiece.  He always has.  (sorry for the long narrative)

True, though in the past he always gave notice before vanishing. Now he is gone for two weeks without notice, starts to worry me a bit. I hope he is fine.

[Serenity_XXI]

Hi,

 

I just finished setting up the mod, but I keep getting these two error messages:

 

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PublicExposure: 1 --- Reason: , , , ,

NAKED DEFEAT #ERROR: Bathing in Skyrim not installed

 

As far as I can tell, I've disabled all scenarios having to do with "Bathing in Skyrim", like Golden Shower, or being dirty as a condition for public punishment.

 

But I still keep getting these errors. From reading the mod's description and instructions, it's not mentioned anywhere that Bathing in Skyrim is a hard requirement.

 

Even in the mod's MCM it just says that if you don't have it, nothing will happen. Yet I keep getting a hard ERROR warning message for not having this mod installed.

 

I prefer using Dirt & Blood, which is why I don't have Bathing in Skyrim installed.

 

As for the other error (PublicExposure) there's no clues as to why that's even happening... supposedly the clue should be after "Reason:", and as you can see it's just ", , , , ".

 

What am I doing wrong?

 

P.S - My character is a Vampire if that has any relevance.

 

Thanks in advance!

[Guest]

17 hours ago, Talesien said:

True, though in the past he always gave notice before vanishing. Now he is gone for two weeks without notice, starts to worry me a bit. I hope he is fine.

I agree but there were a list of several buggy issues he had identified plus he was looking into a slavers mod and hooking it into ND.  And he had to find how to backport it to LE or see if it was possible if he decided on Slavers of Skyrim.  If you have been following the Slavers of Skyrim mod, rapid progress is being made.  Almost daily identification of issues and fixes being made by the author thanks to a very focused tester.  The latest should be posted this weekend.  The orc slavers mod is probably being look at also.  

 

And Life is Life.  Maybe he just needed a short break.   His creativity and drive will bring him back.  Of that I am sure. 

[Guest]

2 hours ago, Serenity_XXI said:

Hi,

 

I just finished setting up the mod, but I keep getting these two error messages:

 

 

As far as I can tell, I've disabled all scenarios having to do with "Bathing in Skyrim", like Golden Shower, or being dirty as a condition for public punishment.

 

But I still keep getting these errors. From reading the mod's description and instructions, it's not mentioned anywhere that Bathing in Skyrim is a hard requirement.

 

Even in the mod's MCM it just says that if you don't have it, nothing will happen. Yet I keep getting a hard ERROR warning message for not having this mod installed.

 

I prefer using Dirt & Blood, which is why I don't have Bathing in Skyrim installed.

 

As for the other error (PublicExposure) there's no clues as to why that's even happening... supposedly the clue should be after "Reason:", and as you can see it's just ", , , , ".

 

What am I doing wrong?

 

P.S - My character is a Vampire if that has any relevance.

 

Thanks in advance!

I noticed the incomplete messages with Public Exposure as well in my game.  A few error messages too.  I believe the message system is new and supposed to be more verbose than before.  I never saw any negatives with the Public Exposure either way.  I do know the exposure when out of sight of people drops like it is supposed to.  I really like this as I can run behind a building or into an alley if it gets too high then walk back out like nothing happened.  Fun.  

 

I would save the papyrus log whenever you see this happen again.  May help Nymra identify what is happening.  Personally I don't think it is an actual error but rather Public Exposure trying to hook being dirty or cum covered.  Somehow it may be connected to Bathing in Skyrim.  I use that mod but only for animation debugging, not for getting dirty in game.  Unlikely I would see the same error but will pay attention to errors.  You may test setting dirty and cum covered to 100 and zero everything else.  See what it does then.  It may also be trying to hook into a punishment.  There is the short one where you have to bath I think.  I don't know but will pay more attention from now on.  

 

I have a widescreen monitor and actually thought I had the widget settings wrong at first.  Sorry you are having problems.  

Edited October 3, 2024 by TFor2

[Yesoiuhjyt]

22 hours ago, TFor2 said:

I noticed the incomplete messages with Public Exposure as well in my game.  A few error messages too.  I believe the message system is new and supposed to be more verbose than before.  I never saw any negatives with the Public Exposure either way.  I do know the exposure when out of sight of people drops like it is supposed to.  I really like this as I can run behind a building or into an alley if it gets too high then walk back out like nothing happened.  Fun.  

 

I would save the papyrus log whenever you see this happen again.  May help Nymra identify what is happening.  Personally I don't think it is an actual error but rather Public Exposure trying to hook being dirty or cum covered.  Somehow it may be connected to Bathing in Skyrim.  I use that mod but only for animation debugging, not for getting dirty in game.  Unlikely I would see the same error but will pay attention to errors.  You may test setting dirty and cum covered to 100 and zero everything else.  See what it does then.  It may also be trying to hook into a punishment.  There is the short one where you have to bath I think.  I don't know but will pay more attention from now on.  

 

I have a widescreen monitor and actually thought I had the widget settings wrong at first.  Sorry you are having problems.  

I confirm, after a fresh restart. I noticed it too. It’s never happen before so it’s new and for me, doesn’t effect the public exposure sys. 

[blackoperations]

Once the scene ends, the PC remains invulnerable.  Is remove that?  I didn't see it in the mcm.

[Talesien]

3 hours ago, blackoperations said:

Once the scene ends, the PC remains invulnerable.  Is remove that?  I didn't see it in the mcm.

That's likely god mode, it should be removed automatically. If it's not something might interfere or your scriptload is too high. You can remove the effect by opening the console and typing: tgm

It should then say godmode disabled.

[Guest]

I am happy to say I finally experienced Simple Slavery with the Naked Defeat as an outcome.  I worked without a flaw and was quite the experience.  Must have endured 10 different abuse segments and actually thought it would not end.  This was over two defeat sequences so not all at once.  Whipping in-between sections and the "wanting more" added to the original sequence.  It was great fun.  I was so full (Fill Her Up) I could barely crawl.  I did notice my FPS took a major hit after the overall sequence ended and I was crawling away.  It was a cave location I've not had problems in this location before but just wanted to mention it.  I have a strong computer and nothing, and I seriously mean nothing has tanked my FPS like this.  60 down to 7-9 FPS.  Completely worth it as now I feel I have another viable outcome to Simple Slavery.  It had never worked for me on prior version of ND.  Thank you Nymra for the enjoyment this gave me.  💘

 

Re: Public Exposure.  I paid more attention this time.  Sometimes I get notification what is increasing the exposure and sometimes just the ;;;; type symbols.  No matter, if I go over, I get punished.  Love this mod so much. 

[Guest]

10 hours ago, blackoperations said:

Once the scene ends, the PC remains invulnerable.  Is remove that?  I didn't see it in the mcm.

I sometimes encounter this but usually when another mod interjects itself in the ND sequence.  Aroused Creatures or Sexlab Pheromones usually will trigger this. TGM and back to normal game play after that.  Just my experience.

[Guest]

Deleted bug report as it was the DHLP -Suspended setting in Naked Defeat caused by Public Whore mod.  Used the fix in PW for DHLP and defeat functioned normally.  If anyone gets stuck in bleedout after being defeated in combat, I would suggest checking to see is DHLP - Suspended is checked in the Naked Defeat MCM.  Nymra has comments on this on the main page but I forget to check when I encounter issues.  May not be involved but it worked to return correct function for me.

 

 

Edited October 6, 2024 by TFor2

[MrSpacePenguin]

is there something wrong with simple slavery mod? I keep getting sold and its doing nothing,I get teleported and its telling me ''you are a better farm animal now'' and nothing else happens

[Zaflis]

2 hours ago, MrSpacePenguin said:

is there something wrong with simple slavery mod? I keep getting sold and its doing nothing,I get teleported and its telling me ''you are a better farm animal now'' and nothing else happens

Not really anything to do with Naked Defeat, but the scenarios you selected as outcome in MCM. Is that maybe some milkmod addon?

[Talesien]

2 hours ago, Zaflis said:

Not really anything to do with Naked Defeat, but the scenarios you selected as outcome in MCM. Is that maybe some milkmod addon?

Actually, that is one of the possible ND outcomes for SS, seemingly one of those Nymra hasn't fixed yet. The text is more flavor, it's the same as the other SS scenarios, getting fucked and whipped until you can escape. At least that is what should happen.

[Pkingsley]

Does the end defeat cheat bind work? Whenever I press ctrl alt k it just debugs bleedout and ragdolls my character (but doesn't stop the defeat scene). I wondered if it was another bind colliding but when I switch the action key to something else, ctrl alt + new bind doesn't do anything (even tho the new bind works for stopping after getting to a nice spot for the scene).

[Guest]

14 hours ago, Pkingsley said:

Does the end defeat cheat bind work? Whenever I press ctrl alt k it just debugs bleedout and ragdolls my character (but doesn't stop the defeat scene). I wondered if it was another bind colliding but when I switch the action key to something else, ctrl alt + new bind doesn't do anything (even tho the new bind works for stopping after getting to a nice spot for the scene).

It does work for me and I don't know how changing the key bind would matter (although I don't dare try that).  (Ctrl+Alt+K) stops the entire defeat process when stuck in bleedout.  It is supposed to end all ND functions and return you to a non-defeat state.  It does ragdoll me as well when I  use it.  To recover from ragdoll I have to use the masturbate spell from another mod.  Only fix for me that works right now which I don't mind.  Full control returns after the masturbate animation ends. 

 

I have been attacked while in transition from other mods and sent to defeat in case something else was happening while you were in ragdoll.  Maybe they simply attacked you again.  IDK.  Overlap mods are an issue with my mod list so I have to monitor what is happening to know if there is a bug or simply mod overlap.  Example:  Sexlab Pheromones sends creatures after the player to rape them.  After the sex, there is a simulated fainting and recovery animation.  3-4 seconds.  Recently I was caught by SL Pheromones while in sneak mode near a bad guy about to attack him.  Pheromones mod sent draugrs after me and initiated sex but the activity caused the bad guy in the dungeon to see me and come closer.  Bad guy draugr waited until sex ended (DHLP  suspend function) and attacked me while in the fainting animation.  Defeat started.  FYI - Currently the ony way I have been getting stuck in bleedout is hitting a trap that takes all of my health.  My prior game, ragdoll happened when I was defeated normally but it was a conflict with another mod, not ND.  That mod had a fix which returned normal ND function.  

 

I don't know how your defeat scene can continue as it technically never started the aftermath option while you were in bleedout.  If sex starts while you are in ragdoll, the hotfix didn't work just changed the stage of defeat.  My guess.  If you were attacked, the hotfix worked but you had no control as the ragdoll didn't end correctly.  If you are stuck in bleedout (defeat of any kind not progressing), used the hotkeys to recover, defeat should end and all related events.  The debug  notifications should show defeat ending.  I suppose  you could check the ND MCM and see what it showing  you.  Should show only that ND is monitoring the player.  If it says defeat is in progress, perhaps a bug and a papyrus log would help Nymra.   Any other checkbox in that list showing like DHLP suspended, could mean an issue from a prior save.  

 

For me, I would reload a prior save and check the ND MCM.  See if only the Player Monitor box is checked.  I had to go back 5 saves to diagnose when the DHLP was activated in ND.  It was a bug from that different mod messing with NDs functions.  I can explain more about that mod if needed. 

 

Wrote too much but maybe gave you a few thoughts to consider.

[Burensc]

Just out of curiosity if I'm getting back to Skyrim and I have a mod list built and no save game... do I need the both of the important patches? There was one labeled very important and a second released a few days earlier that has an 81 in the version number instead of the 80 version number in the "full SE version".

 

[Talesien]

2 hours ago, Burensc said:

Just out of curiosity if I'm getting back to Skyrim and I have a mod list built and no save game... do I need the both of the important patches? There was one labeled very important and a second released a few days earlier that has an 81 in the version number instead of the 80 version number in the "full SE version".

 

You need Naked Defeat 4.80 (that was the last 'full' release) in addition you should install the 4.81 and 4.95-5 patches. So basically the last three DL in the list. You might also want some of the extras, but those are all optional.

[Burensc]

19 minutes ago, Talesien said:

You need Naked Defeat 4.80 (that was the last 'full' release) in addition you should install the 4.81 and 4.95-5 patches. So basically the last three DL in the list. You might also want some of the extras, but those are all optional.

Ok thanks... I liked this mod alot last year before Todd nuked my mod list with 1130

[BexBlair]

Hello! Has anyone used this with Slaverun and/or Slaverun enforcer? Checking to see if it's compatible before I restart my whole game. Thank you!

[BigOnes69]

2 hours ago, BexBlair said:

Hello! Has anyone used this with Slaverun and/or Slaverun enforcer? Checking to see if it's compatible before I restart my whole game. Thank you!

I use both since Enforcer has not been made to stand alone yet. They both work fine but I have been through the story line so only use Enforcer to control slavery across skyrim rather than go through the story again. .

[BexBlair]

3 hours ago, BigOnes69 said:

I use both since Enforcer has not been made to stand alone yet. They both work fine but I have been through the story line so only use Enforcer to control slavery across skyrim rather than go through the story again. .

Thank you I appreciate it

[Burensc]

The 3/4 of the links for the tats are outdated, and the forthcoming link is completely dead.

 

Does Naked Defeat work with rape tats continued and fade tats continued or do I need the old file?

[Balmung889]

Hi, my character doesn't give up if I press "K".
Is it possible that there are key conflicts with other mods or should it work the same?

[Talesien]

26 minutes ago, Balmung889 said:

Hi, my character doesn't give up if I press "K".
Is it possible that there are key conflicts with other mods or should it work the same?

Easy to check, assign another key in ND, I use the ',' on the numpad for example.

[Talesien]

17 hours ago, Burensc said:

The 3/4 of the links for the tats are outdated, and the forthcoming link is completely dead.

 

Does Naked Defeat work with rape tats continued and fade tats continued or do I need the old file?

I use continued for both with no problems.