Naked Defeat AE/SE

[MSEdgeView]

17 hours ago, Talesien said:

Not directly, but you can adjust the general exposure chance, which kinda serves the purpose.

Yeah I did, set it to the lowest possible and the time to the longest, but I still find myself getting "punished" out of nowhere with these "random" checks.

 

 

17 hours ago, Talesien said:

It is looking for Bathing in Skyrim, which is required for the dirtyness weight, you could try setting that 0 and see if that helps.

Yeah I have that set to 0, unfortunately it doesn't work. I guess I'll check for Bathing in Skyrim, if I want to add that. 

[Talesien]

2 hours ago, MSEdgeView said:

Yeah I did, set it to the lowest possible and the time to the longest, but I still find myself getting "punished" out of nowhere with these "random" checks.

Well, the question would be, what for? Unarmed, barefoot, etc. It should tell you in notifications, if slightly RP wrapped. Also you do haven the hidden variables diabled? Otherwise just being near someone can trigger a punishment.

[Idk2133]

On 11/5/2024 at 2:01 PM, Talesien said:

Seeing the changelog for P+, it should now be compatible with ND, perhaps check and let us know if it works.

confirmed btw, p+ and naked defeat now work together. have done very limited play testing but still, scenes now start and aftermath events work

[Tylerja]

On 11/10/2024 at 2:13 AM, Burensc said:

I have used ND side by side with Defeat (Bane version) you just turn player victim off in defeat and then ND and Defeat work fine together 

Indeed i did the same,

[akfish61]

is this intended to replace sexlab defeat?

[UsernameTaken666]

43 minutes ago, akfish61 said:

is this intended to replace sexlab defeat?

There are various “defeat” mods. Each with pros and cons. It’s up to the user to pick which one(s) they wish to use.

[Burensc]

12 hours ago, akfish61 said:

is this intended to replace sexlab defeat?

This mod only handles players and companions getting defeated... Defeat is still needed for player being aggressive or NPC vs NPC. You can use both mods together by turning "Player victim" off in Defeat. But if your going to do that make sure your using the Bane version of Defeat. The NPC vs NPC is not working well with Baka version. Bane is also more up-to-date than the Original version of Defeat. 

[SacredDatura]

Is there a guide or some documentation for setting up the MCM options? There are a lot of options in there (exciting!) but it's not clear to me at a glance what they actually do.

[NightshadeVT]

Is there any way to make the mod compatible with Babodialogue? With certain MCM settings maybe?

[Talesien]

11 hours ago, KillingShadow76 said:

Is there any way to make the mod compatible with Babodialogue? With certain MCM settings maybe?

Depends on what you are talking about. If it's a scripted fight, you got two options.
A.) Once the fight started, go to the MCM and disable Bleedout (or ND in general). Don't forget to re-enable.
B.) Play with Bleedout disabled all the time (note this will basically neuter ND's core function as a Death alternative).

[jackybear149]

Hi, I need help with goldenshower feature, I try to debug myself but failed.

 

I got the golden shower addon from the download section, and set the chance 100%. But I can't trigger the event at all.

But when I go through my  papyrus log, it state "Allow_GoldenShower: False". I tried to figure out where i can enable the feature or make it work but I can't.

 

I have my modlist, loadorder, papyrus log and also my naked defeat setting uploaded. Please take a look

 

loadorder.txtPapyrus.0.logmodlist.txt

naked defeat_profile1.txt

[Talesien]

1 hour ago, jackybear149 said:

Hi, I need help with goldenshower feature, I try to debug myself but failed.

 

I got the golden shower addon from the download section, and set the chance 100%. But I can't trigger the event at all.

But when I go through my  papyrus log, it state "Allow_GoldenShower: False". I tried to figure out where i can enable the feature or make it work but I can't.

 

I have my modlist, loadorder, papyrus log and also my naked defeat setting uploaded. Please take a look

 

loadorder.txt 5.12 kB · 0 downloads Papyrus.0.log 714.09 kB · 0 downloads modlist.txt 5.83 kB · 0 downloads

naked defeat_profile1.txt 7.26 kB · 0 downloads

I notice the MCM help text states it requires "Extras - Forced Bathing", there is no such file in the DL Section. It might be Nymra meant the Golden Shower extra, or it might be Nymra forgot to upload that file. Hard to say. Since you got the Extra - Golden shower installed and can't get it to trigger, that hints at the correct file simply not being available. If ND can't find the right Extra file, that could very well explain why the featured is reported as switched off.

 

Edited November 27, 2024 by Talesien

[jackybear149]

51 minutes ago, Talesien said:

I notice the MCM help text states it requires "Extras - Forced Bathing", there is no such file in the DL Section. It might be Nymra meant the Golden Shower extra, or it might be Nymra forgot to upload that file. Hard to say. Since you got the Extra - Golden shower installed and can't get it to trigger, that hints at the correct file simply not being available. If ND can't find the right Extra file, that could very well explain why the featured is reported as switched off.

 

I tried to installed that "bathing in skyrim" as soft requirement before, but it still wouldn't work. And that seems only add another scene, force bathing, after goldenshower. I don't now what blocking me from the event, maybe it's the settings, cuz it did mention "NAKED DEFEAT calmquest: Allow_GoldenShower: False" in the logfile. Or it could be other problem.😢

[Burensc]

On 11/25/2024 at 11:18 AM, Talesien said:

Depends on what you are talking about. If it's a scripted fight, you got two options.
A.) Once the fight started, go to the MCM and disable Bleedout (or ND in general). Don't forget to re-enable.
B.) Play with Bleedout disabled all the time (note this will basically neuter ND's core function as a Death alternative).

Couldn't you make it compatible by making Babo defeat trigger between 15%-10% health so all the scripted Babo fights you fight with a deficit but you wouldn't trigger the bleedout for ND?

[Talesien]

2 hours ago, Burensc said:

Couldn't you make it compatible by making Babo defeat trigger between 15%-10% health so all the scripted Babo fights you fight with a deficit but you wouldn't trigger the bleedout for ND?

I don't remember such an option, but then I've not used Babo Dialogue for quite a while. If it has such an option, then yes, you could totally do that. It has to be said though, it will not be totally reliable. Especially at lower levels, with a smaller health pool. IIRC many of the Babo Dialogue attackers hit pretty hard.

[Telis5678]

Hey, I can't see any furniture/it doesn't spawn, can anyone help? Mechanically everything works, but none of the furniture appears when it's supposed to and not sure how to fix it.

[Burensc]

8 hours ago, Talesien said:

I don't remember such an option, but then I've not used Babo Dialogue for quite a while. If it has such an option, then yes, you could totally do that. It has to be said though, it will not be totally reliable. Especially at lower levels, with a smaller health pool. IIRC many of the Babo Dialogue attackers hit pretty hard.

Any news on Nymra?

[Talesien]

4 hours ago, Burensc said:

Any news on Nymra?

Last I heard is that he would be back soon. That was three weeks ago, though. You are welcome to hop on his Patreon and DM him. Worked for me. I'm not going to bother him, at least until next year. This time of year can be pretty stressful, depending on someone's daytime job.

[freakpanda]

Just so that I don't download wrong version, it says on the soft requirments to get Devious devices equip, which links it to Devious Devices equip LE version. There is also AE version of devious devices equip. Which one should I use if I'm using SE?

[Zaflis]

3 hours ago, freakpanda said:

Just so that I don't download wrong version, it says on the soft requirments to get Devious devices equip, which links it to Devious Devices equip LE version. There is also AE version of devious devices equip. Which one should I use if I'm using SE?

AE version is closer to what you want, but i haven't seen that kind of case before. By SE people mean Skyrim 1.5.97. SE is AE if version number is any higher. (It has nothing to do with the AE DLC)

Edited December 2, 2024 by Zaflis

[mussern]

Hello

 

I apologize for involved in the discussion, but I have a problem... 

I installed Naked Defeat according to the instructions (or so it seems to me). And started Testing if it works, so:
- I created a new game
- found a few bandits
- character got beaten
- messages started showing up, everything is ok
- surrender options apperd and j can start the Defeat Scenario via Hotkey ("K") (crouch animation works fine).
- press the "K"
- and game suddenly crash.

 

I checked sexlab, it's ok, all the required plugins are there too.
Have no idea what could be wrong. 

I'm attaching the papyrus log, craschl ogs and a list of active mods. Maybe missed something... I have no idea. Please help.

 

If the topic has already been discussed somewhere, I apologize.

 

p.s. I have Skyrim 1.1179 (GOG) version 

mod list.txt Papyrus.0.log crashlog 2024-12-02-22-20-59.log

[Talesien]

7 hours ago, freakpanda said:

Just so that I don't download wrong version, it says on the soft requirments to get Devious devices equip, which links it to Devious Devices equip LE version. There is also AE version of devious devices equip. Which one should I use if I'm using SE?

You should get the version that fits your Skyrim install. It's only required if you want DD's to be equipped after a defeat, otherwise there is no need for it.

[Talesien]

1 hour ago, mussern said:

Hello

 

I apologize for involved in the discussion, but I have a problem... 

I installed Naked Defeat according to the instructions (or so it seems to me). And started Testing if it works, so:
- I created a new game
- found a few bandits
- character got beaten
- messages started showing up, everything is ok
- surrender options apperd and j can start the Defeat Scenario via Hotkey ("K") (crouch animation works fine).
- press the "K"
- and game suddenly crash.

 

I checked sexlab, it's ok, all the required plugins are there too.
Have no idea what could be wrong. 

I'm attaching the papyrus log, craschl ogs and a list of active mods. Maybe missed something... I have no idea. Please help.

 

If the topic has already been discussed somewhere, I apologize.

 

p.s. I have Skyrim 1.1179 (GOG) version 

mod list.txt 32.95 kB · 0 downloads Papyrus.0.log 305.18 kB · 0 downloads crashlog 2024-12-02-22-20-59.log 223.91 kB · 0 downloads

Hmm, I can never make heads or tails out of those trainwreck crashlogs.
You are certain you've the right ConsoleUtil for your game version?
Are you using P+? Didn't see it in your modlist, but you've a patch for it.

All that notwithstanding, did you try starting a Sexlab scene outside of any ND context? Did that work? I'm getting the impression what crashes you is not ND, but SL starting up. But then I don't see SL in the crashlog either. Only ConsoleUtil and EngineFixes. I would check those two first, make triple certain what you are using is really meant for 1179. Most dll's for 1170 should work on 1179, but there is no guarantee for that.
After that make sure SL works as intended.

If all that is verified, and you still got that problem, we will need to dig deeper.
(Btw. you got a ton of errors in your papyrus log, not sure all of those are benign.)
 

[mussern]

13 hours ago, Talesien said:

Hmm, I can never make heads or tails out of those trainwreck crashlogs.
You are certain you've the right ConsoleUtil for your game version?
Are you using P+? Didn't see it in your modlist, but you've a patch for it.

All that notwithstanding, did you try starting a Sexlab scene outside of any ND context? Did that work? I'm getting the impression what crashes you is not ND, but SL starting up. But then I don't see SL in the crashlog either. Only ConsoleUtil and EngineFixes. I would check those two first, make triple certain what you are using is really meant for 1179. Most dll's for 1170 should work on 1179, but there is no guarantee for that.
After that make sure SL works as intended.

If all that is verified, and you still got that problem, we will need to dig deeper.
(Btw. you got a ton of errors in your papyrus log, not sure all of those are benign.)
 

 

Thank you for your reply. 

 

Thanks to you, I know what can cause this problem. I will check out the mods mentioned above.

 I'm also worried about the papyrus logs, I'll try to deal with them too. 

 

I will let you know about any success.

Thanks again.

[garm0]

A new bathing mod has been released, it looks great.

 

https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/135288?tab=description

 

is there any way to replace our old BIS master with the new one to use Naked Defeat with the new bathing mod?

 

patch, tutorial to patch myself, well anything that can help would be appreciated.

 

Thanks.