So why is beastiality bad now in Sims 4 yet for Skyrim/Fallout its polar opposite?

[johnpage]

18 hours ago, BrinaFlute said:

Animations for the not-real things in the Sims 4 (such as the cowplant and mother plant) do exist, but are frankly not as numerous as the animations with real animals - in terms of non-humanoid animations, that is.  

 

Honestly, I'm just a sensitive-ass-snowflake. I fully understand that it's just a game and I'm honestly glad that stuff like bestiality is being acted out in a game instead of being done in real life. I respect that bestiality is allowed on this site and I respect that there are people that are into it - but that doesn't necessarily mean I'm okay with seeing it all the time! The animals in the Sims 4 are based on actual animals, so seeing it is admittedly still rather distressing to me.

 

But that's no one's problem but my own. ?

Good answer as they say in fallout 4, i fully understand your position all best Brinaflute

[HornyJOJO]

1 hour ago, johnpage said:

Good answer as they say in fallout 4, i fully understand your position all best Brinaflute

Thank you for understanding!! I've been wanting to get that off my chest for a while now... 

[BAB PEEG]

How can I play as a white girl if I can't fuck dogs? Unbelievable.

[johnpage]

4 hours ago, BAB PEEG said:

How can I play as a white girl if I can't fuck dogs? Unbelievable.

LOl let your imagination run away with you and fuck any way you like.........

[sissylover19]

 sorry for the necro but i have heard that beastiality gets you banned from origin now they kind of conflated it with another type of mod that does deserve the ban(the disgusting people making CP)is beastiality still ok?

[Oops19]

They may want to remove a few things from TS4 and make the game really boring before they care what others do.

• Sims burn to death just because they go to the toiled, cook or sun bath.
• The aliens abduct sims and abuse them to impregnate them.
• ...

EA does not scan your mods folder as this would violate the TOS / privacy. A VPN does not help as you log in to Origin with your user name.
Do not upload anything to the gallery.
If you want to post videos or images somewhere else then EA may request a DMCA takedown. So better use a VPN and do not include your Origin account name in any screenshot.

[kilerig]

On 9/15/2021 at 10:46 PM, BrinaFlute said:

As Ashal said, I think one of the reasons why bestiality in the Sims 4 is particularly looked down on is because it focuses on actual animals and it's more or less supposed to be a life simulator. Skyrim, meanwhile, is in this fantasy world, and has dragons and stuff - the idea of bestiality somehow seems more... natural for Skyrim, I guess?  But in the Sims 4, these are animals we keep as pets (and now with Cottage Living, livestock).  People have even made mods for animals that aren't in the game (yet?) solely for the purpose of having sexual interactions with them.  Because of the more realistic (and I use that term very loosely) setting of Sims 4, and because they're with real animals, the idea of bestiality in the Sims 4 is viewed as more shocking and unacceptable. 

 

Additionally, since people are still actively posting bestiality content for the Sims 4 on LL, it's safe to say that DD getting banned was definitely not based on its content. 

Hi I am new to sims4 and am trying to search for mods relative to bestiality but hardly find any. You said there ppl actively posting it on LL ,but in your other post you said'Wicked Whims does not allow bestiality. There's another mod that allows it but it's not on LoversLab anymore.' . I'm getting a bit confused here,  should keep on seeking them here on LL or there is no chance here as they were banned?

[snowdog04]

6 hours ago, kilerig said:

Hi I am new to sims4 and am trying to search for mods relative to bestiality but hardly find any. You said there ppl actively posting it on LL ,but in your other post you said'Wicked Whims does not allow bestiality. There's another mod that allows it but it's not on LoversLab anymore.' . I'm getting a bit confused here,  should keep on seeking them here on LL or there is no chance here as they were banned?

The creator of the mod that makes bestiality possible was banned, so you won't find it here on LL.  Most of the animators who made animations for that mod ARE still here though, and their animations are also still here.  So, if you manage to find Devious Desires somewhere-- it's still out there-- you can get the animations here.

The links for DD ended in .to and .ru.  I don't know what country .to is associated with, but .ru is Russia... so good luck with that!

[Gambit]

No needs to go on a russian site.

Check this thread for more info : https://www.loverslab.com/topic/118534-sims-4-rape-mod/page/2/

[kilerig]

On 4/2/2022 at 9:34 PM, snowdog04 said:

The creator of the mod that makes bestiality possible was banned, so you won't find it here on LL.  Most of the animators who made animations for that mod ARE still here though, and their animations are also still here.  So, if you manage to find Devious Desires somewhere-- it's still out there-- you can get the animations here.

The links for DD ended in .to and .ru.  I don't know what country .to is associated with, but .ru is Russia... so good luck with that!

Thanks, I know DD, but having seen posts saying it may conflict with WW, I was just wondering whether there are any other option on LL.

[Gambit]

3 hours ago, kilerig said:

Thanks, I know DD, but having seen posts saying it may conflict with WW, I was just wondering whether there are any other option on LL.

 

It's more it double sex features (and configuration) than a conflict issue. Rumors say that WW has code to disrupt DD, but I had not experienced no such thing and  both are playing quite well last time I was using ww. I just boring to have to configurate each mod. And sex acts from one mod is not acknowledge by the other, so potentially more sex scene etc.

But it's maybe betterto run only one of them.

 

DD can use WW animations.

There's no WW alternative mod for what you ask.

 

Make your choice.

 

[moraea]

On 4/28/2021 at 8:52 PM, Neodarkside said:

 I do not have proof other than verbal from others

That isn't 'proof' at all, it's hearsay: "information received from other people that one cannot adequately substantiate; rumor." Best practice is to do your own research before you pass along unsubstantiated claims. As "Oops19" clearly stated, neither of the two things you said following the quoted phrase are true.

From looking at both mods and interacting with both communities, I can say there are things I like and use from both mods, but I don't want anything to do with a bunch of uninformed SJWs and have found much better help and support from CN's discord. I also don't think anyone has a right to police what mods people have in their games, especially when they take out their personal drama issues on innocent content creators, some which 95% of their creations are clothes! smh

Speaking to the original topic, I have been wondering the same myself. In line with what an earlier poster stated, there may be less interest in it in the Sims as the only animals in Sims 4 are your pets vs random fantasy beasts and monsters in the other games. Still, it's odd to me that Sacrificial has mods where your toddler can become a serial killer as well as Extreme Violence for all and everyone seems fine with it and can see the hilarity when you let it run rampant in your game (some crazy funny YouTube videos out there), but the same people freak out if you want your Sims to get rough or aggressive in certain situations, or I guess if your Sims love their animals extremely. Or if you want a storyline in your own freaking game where not everyone is a "good" person. Lawwdy! Save us from these sinners!

Edited April 3, 2022 by moraea

[Neodarkside]

7 hours ago, moraea said:

That isn't 'proof' at all, it's hearsay: "information received from other people that one cannot adequately substantiate; rumor." Best practice is to do your own research before you pass along unsubstantiated claims. As "Oops19" clearly stated, neither of the two things you said following the quoted phrase are true.

From looking at both mods and interacting with both communities, I can say there are things I like and use from both mods, but I don't want anything to do with a bunch of uninformed SJWs and have found much better help and support from CN's discord. I also don't think anyone has a right to police what mods people have in their games, especially when they take out their personal drama issues on innocent content creators, some which 95% of their creations are clothes! smh

 

Way to take a comment made over a year ago personal there man. I never said I had proof or whatnot. What I said was, All I have is verbal from many different sources and all I said was things I have read from those sources, so I am claiming NOTHING. I don't care what he did/does etc. I just know he's been banned from several different sites. Yes, its hearsay and all I did was state what I've heard. I am not attacking him in any way, if you want to use his mods, good for you, I'm not going to try and stop you nor dissuade you in any way, just don't come here and call me out saying I said something I did not.

[Alexander505]

Sims 4 is still very vanilla even when we're talking about sex animations, the same WW mod, which I love, is quite vanilla itself, the same animators, most of them, try to don't exceed with the game's "mood", that's the main reason why ColonolNutty created DD and even the reason why Savacini became so popular in a very short time

Edited April 4, 2022 by Alexander505

[cantresisthaha]

On 4/28/2021 at 6:58 PM, TentacleBandit said:

 

No honestly thank you, I appreciate any advice!  I was just clarifying what I am and am not looking for, I actually used MC again for first time today just to check out what I'm missing and honestly I feel like its the type of mod I'd install when I need a specific function again.

 

On a slightly different note but back on topic, I've been joining various discords as I'm playing Sims 4 more now and I'SHOCKED how many have rules stating "if your found using beastiality mods" you can be banned.  I'm really shocked to find this in modding community which has always been install/play with whatever mods you want - personal choice.

 

Now I do understand this goes back to drama between modders and but I do believe that NO gamer has the right to dictate what mods another gamer puts in their game unless it effects them directly (like an online competitive game that gives advantages).

 

I also hate reading articles or comments by people stating that playing video games with nonconsentual sex or questionable content like beastiality will make them do these acts in real life.  Wait what?  Did they just blame video games for sexual violence?

 

In the last 20 years people have been trying to blame video games with ZERO evidence to prove games cause people to act it out in real life (whatever it is) if its a violent or illegal act (such as beastiality or noncensent) every study on this topic has proven thats indeed false.  There is no correlation but now we have a part of a hyper sensitive and "cancel" culture sims community declaring that mods cause violence or illegal acts...seriously!?

 

If that was true street walkers around the world would be run over daily by all the millions of people that play GTA and anybody that has basemental drugs mod would have become drug dealers in real life by that mentality.  The only thing that these studies have proven is that people that are going to commit acts of violence are going to do them regardless of their exposure to media of whatever form (back in the 70 and 80's it was movies that were blamed, even books and board games!)

 

I actually found a topic blasting WW because it features too many sexual animations that aren't "intimate enough" and made for men.  First off thats NOT WW fault - don't they realize when they download an animators animations its a different person?  Why are they blaming WW for that??  Plus the majority of animations ARE MADE by men, so is it any wonder?? 

 

Its like if anybody can find an excuse to complain or hate on things they will these days.  I don't get it.

 

Anyway this whole thing seems like a situation of hyper sensitive corner of the sims community trying to dictate what mods people should and should not do use, including some sensitive about WW too.   Thing is if you don't like some animations or subject matters, nobody is forcing people to download rough bj animations or tell other people they shouldn't.

 

Its like there is this strange disconnect with the Sims community and the rest of the gaming world.

 

This is true, the disconnect is real.

[Evil_Morty]

On 4/29/2021 at 5:52 AM, Neodarkside said:

Well, the act IRL is illegal in the US. So I would imagine for a legal purpose some sites don't want anything to do with it. I've seen LL get blasted a few places for allowing it for Skyrim and Fallout. It also kinda stems from the creator of the Bestiality mod for Sims. I do not have proof other than verbal from others, but it sounds like his mod that also had Bestiality for Sims also allowed for sex acts with child sims. Besides that it was also found a lot of code was copied, etc etc etc. So Deaderpools Discord flat out refuses to help if they find any mod from him or that allow Bestiality.

 

The IRL vs Video games has always been a battle, I grew up with the Magic the Gathering is Evil, D&D is Evil, Video games are Evil, BS for the first half of my life and it hasn't changed. They always want to point the finger at the video games and not things that may or may not be the real cause (shitty parenting? lack of laws? demon possession? :P)

 

As for me, I probably would keep the bestiality mod in my Sims 4, problem is, I hate how it works. I'd use it maybe for story progression ideas but just not a fan of it. Also as I mentioned above, didn't like what else he did to get banned so I cannot condone using it.

I know it was years ago but im baffled that there is shitton of bestiality mods AND rape mods, when it comes to being enslaved, raped, or rape someone, or rape an animal (not even a best such werewolve but actual animal like dog or wolf) in game, it is completely fine to yall cuz "its a game" but when it comes to pedophilia, its bad? so its like... what is exactly a mindset of american people? you are okay with bestiality and rapes, murders, cannibalism (andy and leyley drama xD) but you draw a line if someone wants to abuse little children in game... but i thought "its just a game". yknow, a lot of stuff is illegal in US, Bestiality, rape, murder, cannibalism, necrophilia, pedophilia... but yet everything is good and dandy untill there is a kid... i dont understand yall. im disgusted that there is so much bestiality here. yeah, i get its pixels and games... but you never know who downloades them. you dont know irf someone use it cuz its funny or cuz they have fantasies and at some point they wont stop themselves and just go and rape a dog or a someone irl or just dig up graves and rape someones deceased granny like bro... whats wrong with yall.

[SilentAegis]

6 hours ago, Evil_Morty said:

I know it was years ago but im baffled that there is shitton of bestiality mods AND rape mods, when it comes to being enslaved, raped, or rape someone, or rape an animal (not even a best such werewolve but actual animal like dog or wolf) in game, it is completely fine to yall cuz "its a game" but when it comes to pedophilia, its bad? so its like... what is exactly a mindset of american people? you are okay with bestiality and rapes, murders, cannibalism (andy and leyley drama xD) but you draw a line if someone wants to abuse little children in game... but i thought "its just a game". yknow, a lot of stuff is illegal in US, Bestiality, rape, murder, cannibalism, necrophilia, pedophilia... but yet everything is good and dandy untill there is a kid... i dont understand yall. im disgusted that there is so much bestiality here. yeah, i get its pixels and games... but you never know who downloades them. you dont know irf someone use it cuz its funny or cuz they have fantasies and at some point they wont stop themselves and just go and rape a dog or a someone irl or just dig up graves and rape someones deceased granny like bro... whats wrong with yall.

...Bait? There's a whole post quoted above you poking several holes into this. And why are you focusing on Americans specifically? The Sims community is very internationally diverse. Many mod, cc, build, and animation creators I follow aren't American at all. Yukihyo and RIMINGS come to mind. Khlas here is French.

If not bait, a need to virtue signal, at the minimum. And if you're going to virtue signal about the modding community, you should do the same for the game itself since it "arguably" enables rape and cannibalism. (Alien abductions and vampires)

Right?

Edited September 10 by SilentAegis

[Zasz]

Im glad this topic exists because this cant be simply discussed anywhere else apparently. The conversation demonstrates that discussing a taboo is not the same thing as endorsing it.

 

 

On 9/10/2026 at 12:46 PM, Evil_Morty said:

I know it was years ago but im baffled that there is shitton of bestiality mods AND rape mods, when it comes to being enslaved, raped, or rape someone, or rape an animal (not even a best such werewolve but actual animal like dog or wolf) in game, it is completely fine to yall cuz "its a game" but when it comes to pedophilia, its bad? so its like... what is exactly a mindset of american people? you are okay with bestiality and rapes, murders, cannibalism (andy and leyley drama xD) but you draw a line if someone wants to abuse little children in game... but i thought "its just a game". yknow, a lot of stuff is illegal in US, Bestiality, rape, murder, cannibalism, necrophilia, pedophilia... but yet everything is good and dandy untill there is a kid... i dont understand yall. im disgusted that there is so much bestiality here. yeah, i get its pixels and games... but you never know who downloades them. you dont know irf someone use it cuz its funny or cuz they have fantasies and at some point they wont stop themselves and just go and rape a dog or a someone irl or just dig up graves and rape someones deceased granny like bro... whats wrong with yall.

 

I've learned that many Simmers apparently don't see the hypocrisy in allowing A but not B because reasons.

 

"Horror/gore movies" — crickets
"Game of Thrones" — crickets
"Slaughters civilians in a game" — crickets
"Game mod involving torture and rape" — crickets
"Game mod involving sex with children" — Sims community: "PEDOPHILE! SICK! DISGUSTING! CRIMINAL! BURN HIM AT THE STAKE!"

 

Many Simmers cannot stay in harm-based reasoning once disgust triggers. Disgust is a perfectly valid reason to say "I don't want to see this." It isn't evidence that somebody else consuming fictional material is going to commit the corresponding act in reality.

 

Also, the US doesn't make laws for the rest of the world. Different countries draw different legal boundaries around fictional material. Some recognize a much stronger distinction between pixels or drawings and real people. The fact that something depicts an illegal or disgusting act doesn't automatically mean that the fictional depiction itself should be illegal. If nobody was actually abused in creating it, then disgust alone isn't a particularly convincing reason for outlawing it.

 

That said, I think there is an interesting reason why bestiality content might be perceived differently in The Sims 4 compared with Skyrim or Fallout. Most non-human creatures in The Sims are recognizable domestic animals: cats, dogs, horses, cows, llamas, chickens and so on. That creates a fairly major psychological difference between "fictional human + impossible fantasy monster" and "Sim + ordinary-looking household dog." The first can overlap with monster/alien fantasy, while the second visually resembles an actual real-world act involving an animal incapable of consent.

 

But once you move away from ordinary animals, where exactly is the line drawn?

 

If we're categorizing fictional sexual content according to what its real-world equivalent would technically be, NSFW vampire content could be called necrophilia — vampires are undead, after all. And werewolves demonstrate how fuzzy the category becomes. Pun intended. Does it become bestiality depending on which form they're currently using? A Sims werewolf may look animal-like, but it's still an intelligent Sim with human-level agency that can communicate, consent, have relationships, marry, etc. Calling sex between a human Sim and a werewolf Sim "bestiality" simply because one looks wolf-like would be conceptually pretty strange.

 

Alien Sims make the problem even more obvious. They're literally extraterrestrial life forms from another planet and therefore aren't human either, but they're clearly intelligent people with essentially the same agency and relationship capabilities as ordinary Sims. Surely sex between a human Sim and an alien Sim doesn't suddenly become "bestiality" just because they're different species.

 

And then there's the Mother Plant, which makes the classification even more ridiculous. That's not an animal at all. If somebody creates sexual content involving a gigantic sentient alien plant monster, "bestiality" isn't particularly informative. "Monster sex" would describe the fantasy much better.

 

That's why I don't think one label can meaningfully cover everything from an ordinary dog to a werewolf, an intelligent alien creature or a gigantic sentient plant. The relevant distinctions are things like intelligence, agency, consent and whether we're even talking about something resembling a real animal in the first place.

 

 

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“you never know who downloads them … at some point they wont stop themselves”

 

This is the same kind of propaganda we gamers have heard for decades. Here in Germany we even had an entire moral panic about "Killerspiele" ("killer games"), particularly after school shootings, when politicians and the media focused on perpetrators having played games such as Counter-Strike and suggested that violent games could turn people into real-world killers. The "Gutenberg-Gymnasium school shooting" started that if anyone wants to look it up. If the principle really is “fiction isn't reality,” you should be able to explain why that principle applies to one fictional taboo but not another.

 

People deliberately make Sims suffer in horrifying ways. Someone can enjoy playing an evil character, committing virtual mass murder, playing horror scenarios, or constructing disturbing sexual fiction without wanting any equivalent real-world event. 

The Sims itself makes this distinction almost comically obvious. Players have spent 25 years removing pool ladders, building death rooms, imprisoning Sims in basements and inventing increasingly elaborate ways of killing little computer people. Nobody concludes that the average Sims player needs to be kept away from swimming pools and construction materials.

 

At the same time, that doesn't establish the reverse claim that all fictional material is necessarily harmless. That's an empirical question. If someone claims a particular kind of content causes measurable real-world harm, that claim can be investigated. But "I can imagine somebody consuming this and eventually committing the act" isn't evidence of that causal relationship. Otherwise the exact same reasoning can be used against violent games, horror movies, crime novels, fictional rape, murder, cannibalism, necrophilia, or any of the other fictional material being defended with "it's just a game."

 

If "normal people" couldn't tolerate taboo subjects in fiction, why are taboo subjects common tropes throughout adult media? Maybe it has something to do with the fact that adults can separate fiction from reality and can engage with fictional material without endorsing the corresponding behavior in real life. What matters is how you treat actual people and animals, not automatically what fictional scenarios you consume.

Edited September 11 by Zasz

[Edge_of_Yesterday]

On 4/22/2021 at 8:51 AM, Khlas said:

bestiality or whatever is against the rules of Patreon. If Turbo add bestiality, he will lose his patreon page. 

...which is such a stupid reason not to do it since there are a million alternatives to patreon to use that aren't so restrictive. It being known by EA/Maxis isn't really relevant either since they clearly don't give af about anything except making money

[flybox]

I generally think on a site like this, we should avoid kinkshaming. Whatever depraved things you want in your game, whatever. They are just pixels. But we also shouldn't kinkdemand. If Turbo doesn't want to add support for bestiality to his mod, then that's his choice. If you want it so bad, find another mod, or make one yourself.