Public Whore

[Karkhel]

3 hours ago, kalesh said:

I posted a similar note in the Prison Overhaul Patched topic,

 

Though not a direct conflict, if you use this mod and Prison Overhaul Patched at the same time, I advise not using Public Whore's Sex Fame startup setting.

 

If you are under arrest and gain enough fame it will trigger PW's start and might mess up your progress, as you can't "sell" yourself in a cell, or in my case bring up a fade out load screen and freeze the game.

I was about to quote your msg from POP here lol, it would be nice to have a check for POP status so this doesn't happen, I've had issues (though it was more about immersion getting broken) with automatic approaches but that you can fix by just disabling them for a bit.

Edited February 26, 2023 by Karkhel

[icdtdave]

I've found an incompatibility with another mod which I believe could be addressed in a future update.  I tried out the Hand to Hand mod by SimonMagus.  It's pretty good, but the game treats two empty hands as "armed."  Which is where PW comes in.  Guards will constantly stop the PC for violating the no weapons rule.  You can sidestep this if you remember to equip spells to one or more hands.  Since the start of a PW quest starts with being stripped near a lot of guards, you can see how this would be a problem.

 

Not sure if the author is still maintaining the mod right now, but I think it should be fixable by simply excluding "unarmed" as a weapon.  According to the Hand to Hand page, the base game supposedly has some method of treating unarmed as a weapon, so hopefully it's not a difficult fix?

[erynyes]

1 hour ago, GLBASTARD said:

alright so i can progress through a little bit of belethors quest by repeatedly quicksaving and loading but i dont make it far

double check if you got any other mods that is trying to run a script at the same time, personnally i use sexlab approach and PW togheter, they sometimes play nice, sometimes conflicts, the belethor quest was always a problem for me as well, i just turn off sexlab approach in the mcm when i run it, and turn it back on after.  Even if you don't run this particular mod in conjunction with PW, another one could possibly be interferring, i would start looking into that if i were you, good luck!

 

EDIT : also quicksaving is bad, stop using quicksave, it messes with scripts, it only save regular data, and corrupt saves often

 

Edited March 1, 2023 by erynyes

[Hex Bolt]

35 minutes ago, erynyes said:

also quicksaving is bad, stop using quicksave, it messes with scripts, it only save regular data, and corrupt saves often

I don't believe this is accurate.  I quick save frequently and I've never had a corrupted save.  Obviously, given the complexity of Skyrim mods and their interactions, I've had my share of problems, but nothing attributable to quick saving, just the usual issues with mod conflicts or poorly written scripts.

[erynyes]

1 hour ago, HexBolt8 said:

I don't believe this is accurate.  I quick save frequently and I've never had a corrupted save.  Obviously, given the complexity of Skyrim mods and their interactions, I've had my share of problems, but nothing attributable to quick saving, just the usual issues with mod conflicts or poorly written scripts.

i'll trust you on that one, just what i've been told before, i come from the Fallout 4 community, and quicksave is a well known bug issue in that game, maybe it's not an issue in skyrim, you're far more knowledgeable than me when it comes to modding, didn't want to give any wrong advices

 

[lcewolf]

I just want to report a MCM bug with locking menu option.

 

In whiterun with fame or hero status the menu don't lock.

I use the uneding option and i did uncheck the submissive lola option.

 

All try i did didn't lock the menu.

[erynyes]

1 hour ago, GLBASTARD said:

i only have sexlab, the requirements for it, PW, and its requirements aswell and it still does the same thing is there perchance i mightve missed something that could be considered common knowledge that i dont know? cus i also generate FNIS and it still does this

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i'm afraid i may not be the best to help you in troubleshooting your issue, but since you mentionned you're pretty new to modding, i'll give you these few advices :

 

first, i dunno wich mod manager you use, but anyway, load order matters a lot, sometimes putting a mod before another can cause all kind of issue, changing your load order can sometime do wonders.

 

Second, what you seem to be experiencing, sounds to me like some kind of script lag, sometimes hitting the console command key (tild key) can help resume some scripts, try it and see if it helps. There is also a mod called Papyrus Tweaks, wich speed up script function, it's not a magical solution, but i run what most people would call a potato setup and it's helping me a lot running script heavy mod.

 

Lastly be wary of conditions, what i mean by that is that sometimes just a little script conditions can mess with your whole set up, exemple, i've had issues with the belethor quest before, one time it was because it was after 8pm, and some other mod (RDO or whatever other npc AI mod) was trying to tell me i was not welcome anymore in the shop, and it was fucking the whole PW script.

 

Anyway, hope you can figure it out, PW is a great mod, there's some minor issue, but overall the mod is working as intended

Edited March 1, 2023 by erynyes

[drunken toad]

Thanks for the update, latest windhelm quest was great. Glad to see you're still adding content to this mod.

[whydoihavetochooseaname]

For everyone stuck at the Belethor shop quest: try

setstage bw_whiterunstart 40

 

[Evelle the Slut]

On 2/28/2023 at 8:31 PM, erynyes said:

i'll trust you on that one, just what i've been told before, i come from the Fallout 4 community, and quicksave is a well known bug issue in that game, maybe it's not an issue in skyrim, you're far more knowledgeable than me when it comes to modding, didn't want to give any wrong advices

 

Quick and Auto saves work different in SE than LE. All saves are more or less identical as far as how they index data, so they're not inherently unsafe. Normal saves are still preferable to both entirely because pausing the game and navigating to the new save button gives scripts a few seconds to wrap up, as saving in any way while scripts are running can occasionally cause them to break (this is my understanding of it, but hopefully it is accurate and helpful).

[cerebus300]

So, I've been having the same problem that others have been mentioning, where there are no dialogue options to perform the public whore duties. I've tried a number of times since installing the update but I can never use it because there is no way to complete the quota. I don't get people approaching for PW, either. I haven't had any problem with the Windhelm quest and did that fine. It is just the PW dialogue issue that is making the mod unusable. Has anyone figured out a solution? Should I just go back to an older version? Any word from the creator of the mod on these issues?

[Naps-On-Dirt]

When you get the bandit job, isn't it supposed to be in the same hold as the place giving it?  I'm in Winterhold (collecting all the tattoos!) but I just got given the task of appeasing the bandits of Jolfingand, which is way over in Whiterun. Probably.  Unless that river is a border then it might be Hjaalmarch maybe, because Orotheim is.  Anyway, there is no chance it is considered part of Winterhold.

 

Edit:  Ahhh.  Jolfingand is from the More Bandit Camps mod and it is incorrectly set to be part of Winterhold.  I don't know how all that works in Skyrim but I guess it isn't as simple as checking where you are on the map. 

Edited March 14, 2023 by Naps-On-Dirt

[Karkhel]

On 3/12/2023 at 6:42 AM, cerebus300 said:

So, I've been having the same problem that others have been mentioning, where there are no dialogue options to perform the public whore duties. I've tried a number of times since installing the update but I can never use it because there is no way to complete the quota. I don't get people approaching for PW, either. I haven't had any problem with the Windhelm quest and did that fine. It is just the PW dialogue issue that is making the mod unusable. Has anyone figured out a solution? Should I just go back to an older version? Any word from the creator of the mod on these issues?

It would help the creator and others for you to give more details like version of skyrim you are playing on, mod list etc. I hate to be that guy 'but it works for me' but it works for me. So clearly this is not a universal problem with a version alone. Not saying it has to be on your end, but the more information you can provide the easier fixing potential bug will be.

Edited March 14, 2023 by Karkhel

[M3G4T3RR4]

Hey! Great mod, I was just wondering, is there any way to add the Victim status (Aggressive/Rape animations) to sex initiated with Queues and during the Public Rape punishment? (I was surprised this wasn't counted already.) It doesn't make sense to play a character who'd resist customers including from queues and have Consensual animations play.

[Lenore]

It took me a while to get to this updated mod, tried out the new Windhelm quest and I have to say .. great job! Kudos, really a job well done .. thank you! I look forward to more updates.

[Karkhel]

7 hours ago, M3G4T3RR4 said:

Hey! Great mod, I was just wondering, is there any way to add the Victim status (Aggressive/Rape animations) to sex initiated with Queues and during the Public Rape punishment? (I was surprised this wasn't counted already.) It doesn't make sense to play a character who'd resist customers including from queues and have Consensual animations play.

For queues since they appear randomly no matter what you do, I think it would be a way too punishing (maybe make this optional feature if possible?), if you have any mods that make non consensual encounters worse, I personally have at least 4 different mods that make it worse. I would end up deleveled, drugged with various stuff, smeared with shitty makeup, and get a lot more wear and tear from apropos. But I do agree on the public punishment if it actually doesn't pick aggressive ones (can't compare how it works for me since I never got the public punishment yet, maybe double check you got aggressive animations to be picked? Though I think sexlab has some by default) as its supposed to be punishment.

[M3G4T3RR4]

15 hours ago, Karkhel said:

For queues since they appear randomly no matter what you do, I think it would be a way too punishing (maybe make this optional feature if possible?), if you have any mods that make non consensual encounters worse, I personally have at least 4 different mods that make it worse. I would end up deleveled, drugged with various stuff, smeared with shitty makeup, and get a lot more wear and tear from apropos. But I do agree on the public punishment if it actually doesn't pick aggressive ones (can't compare how it works for me since I never got the public punishment yet, maybe double check you got aggressive animations to be picked? Though I think sexlab has some by default) as its supposed to be punishment.

 

You can actually set Queues to never appear from the MCM, though it would be nice to still be able to have them with a toggle-able aggressive option since they seem like fun and the game itself literally forces them on you lmao. As for the punishment part...you just made me realize that your character is bound in those, and there may simply not be any appropriate bound aggressive animations in my game, I'll have to check that!

 

 

[HBoo]

I have set all "thieves" to 0% chance of occurrence(set them to never steal items)

but they still steal items.? This looks like a bug.

 

 

[Karkhel]

7 hours ago, M3G4T3RR4 said:

 

You can actually set Queues to never appear from the MCM, though it would be nice to still be able to have them with a toggle-able aggressive option since they seem like fun and the game itself literally forces them on you lmao. As for the punishment part...you just made me realize that your character is bound in those, and there may simply not be any appropriate bound aggressive animations in my game, I'll have to check that!

I know you can but I love them and I don't think they should be a punishment on their own, thats what the punishments and unique events are for. I hope you manage to figure it out. I will test stuff myself when I get around to it.

[Plaguetard2.0]

In case anyone else comes across having issues with arrests, not going to prison under other mods, and having issues of passing the time to get out of prison... in my mod setup, I realized it was this mod that was actually causing these issues. Things like Jail Rape, Prison Overhaul Patched, ParaPrison Alternative, Cursed Loot... all had prison systems that just weren't working the way they were intended, and it ended up being this mod (on Skyrim SE, again at least in my mod setup) that was conflicting and causing these issues.

[Karkhel]

2 hours ago, Plaguetard2.0 said:

In case anyone else comes across having issues with arrests, not going to prison under other mods, and having issues of passing the time to get out of prison... in my mod setup, I realized it was this mod that was actually causing these issues. Things like Jail Rape, Prison Overhaul Patched, ParaPrison Alternative, Cursed Loot... all had prison systems that just weren't working the way they were intended, and it ended up being this mod (on Skyrim SE, again at least in my mod setup) that was conflicting and causing these issues.

PoP and Prison alternative are generally not compatible, one REQUIRES devious devices the other one has issues with devious devices. Jail rape is only compatible with PoP if you turn off player option I assume you did that. Cursed loot's prison is not compatible you have to turn off that part. This is me assuming you are running some combination of those. The wording on your post is a bit vague. If you mean individually then Public whore only causes issues to PoP if you get approached during arrest or event or if you have auto aproaches on during imprisonment. You'd need to turn off sexual fame start to public whore if you are running PoP.

Edited March 17, 2023 by Karkhel

[Plaguetard2.0]

2 hours ago, Karkhel said:

PoP and Prison alternative are generally not compatible, one REQUIRES devious devices the other one has issues with devious devices. Jail rape is only compatible with PoP if you turn off player option I assume you did that. Cursed loot's prison is not compatible you have to turn off that part. This is me assuming you are running some combination of those. The wording on your post is a bit vague. If you mean individually then Public whore only causes issues to PoP if you get approached during arrest or event or if you have auto aproaches on during imprisonment. You'd need to turn off sexual fame start to public whore if you are running PoP.

Sorry, let me clarify. I was having issues with being arrest and being able to serve the prison sentence, so I started doing some testing.

I tried the following setups

Jail Rape + Cursed Loot (My Original Setup)

PoP + Jail Rape (Player Disabled) + Cursed Loot (Just to add PoP and see if I was getting the same issue)

PoP

Jail Rape + Cursed Loot

Jail Rape

Cursed Loot

Prison Alternative (I just tossed this one on because I was at a loss)

 

And in each setup kept having the same issues (New Game, get arrested, see what happens). In all cases, I was being arrested, put in a cell, the respective mod would be running, but if I attempted to wait out the sentence I got an infinite loading screen. In cases like in PoP where you can just wait, I would get the pop up to wait out the prison sentence even though that shouldn't happen, and if I agreed, I still got the infinite loading screen. I started scanning through those various mods and saw one (I forget which, I think PoP), had a conflict somewhere with Public Whore that didn't seem like it was something significant... but ultimately I decided to remove PW and suddenly, all of them worked individually, and the most complex setup of PoP + Jail Rape + Cursed Loot (with possible CL Prison Sentence instead of Vanilla) all worked correctly.

 

Hope that clarifies! Sorry it seemed vague.

Edited March 18, 2023 by Plaguetard2.0

[Karkhel]

3 hours ago, Plaguetard2.0 said:

Hope that clarifies! Sorry it seemed vague.

Yep that it does, thanks for explaining it. Have you tried just moving load order a bit? Like try having PoP the lowest to override public whore or the other way around, I assume you are talking about cells they both change. I wouldn't be asking if I didn't run those two together for a bit, I run into issues but only the ones I mentioned. Everything else worked fine. Which city did you get arrested in? I only tested this in whiterun. Overall I had a couple mods interfere with PoP in various ways I just ended up removing PoP.
How is cursed loot prison working so far? I'm kinda interested in adding DCL just for the prison part. I've seen some posts claiming there were issues with this part of the mod specifically.

[Plaguetard2.0]

9 hours ago, Karkhel said:

Yep that it does, thanks for explaining it. Have you tried just moving load order a bit? Like try having PoP the lowest to override public whore or the other way around, I assume you are talking about cells they both change. I wouldn't be asking if I didn't run those two together for a bit, I run into issues but only the ones I mentioned. Everything else worked fine. Which city did you get arrested in? I only tested this in whiterun. Overall I had a couple mods interfere with PoP in various ways I just ended up removing PoP.
How is cursed loot prison working so far? I'm kinda interested in adding DCL just for the prison part. I've seen some posts claiming there were issues with this part of the mod specifically.

I did dabble with the load order. Putting Jail Rape or PoP or Prison Alternative all at the bottom. Just couldn't get it to stop trying to just pass through the prison sentence and end up in an infinite loading screen.

 

As for DCL's prison system... I only went there when I went on purpose to test things. It seemed to be fine, and I didn't have any issues, but I only played in it for like 20 minutes to test things and see how they run together and haven't been sent there yet during my actual playthrough. You can set the chance to be sent to that prison system and I have it at like 25% (it is possible it won't trigger now that I have PoP back in my setup). I MIGHT remove PoP, although I'd be concerned I'd have to start over at this point. I like the mod, or hate the mod, depending on my mood, as sometimes I don't want to spend what feels like hours just watching assault stuff in prison and want to play the game.

[Plaguetard2.0]

15 hours ago, Karkhel said:

Yep that it does, thanks for explaining it. Have you tried just moving load order a bit? Like try having PoP the lowest to override public whore or the other way around, I assume you are talking about cells they both change. I wouldn't be asking if I didn't run those two together for a bit, I run into issues but only the ones I mentioned. Everything else worked fine. Which city did you get arrested in? I only tested this in whiterun. Overall I had a couple mods interfere with PoP in various ways I just ended up removing PoP.
How is cursed loot prison working so far? I'm kinda interested in adding DCL just for the prison part. I've seen some posts claiming there were issues with this part of the mod specifically.

 

So, I ended up having to play through the DCL prison on an actual playthrough. Skooma dealer drugged and raped PC (via Solutions) who when I went to attack him, my dragonborn voice mod made me select the wrong option and the Whiterun Guards nearby sided with the skooma dealer. This was considered a "violent crime" and got me tossed into the DCL prison.

 

One thing I noticed, I had a rather large bounty in Riften (from unpaid taxes via SL Adventures), and being tossed in this prison took care of BOTH the Riften bounty and the recently acquired Whiterun bounty from the assault. I suppose that makes sense as this isn't a region specific prison.

 

Either way, the entire mod ran well for two entire days (probably 3 hours). I had no issue, I was able to pickpocket keys to formulate an escape plan using sex, and overall the mod runs fairly well if that your flavor is to watch the PC in DD equipment and have lots of sex.

 

That being said, I've actually loaded back before the save and disabled it, as I felt like the entire situation takes waaaaaay to long to play out. This was also in part to SL Adventures and Deviously Helpless triggering as well, causing even more sex. I'm actually not the biggest fan of some of the loreless items such as rubber suits and ebonite armbinders, and this ended up being entirely too much DD for my liking, and not enough combat and exploration. I believe I had 4 days left due to my bounty, and that would be 3 or 4 more days of playing JUST that prison mod for the amount of time I have to play some games outside of work and life and all that. Honestly, the reason I get turned away from PoP is because of how long it takes to play out, this was even worse. At least Dark Arena I can get out of in an hour or so.

 

Hope that helps you decide. Overall the entire system did operate very, very well. I did the ore retrieval, the cleaning, and warehouse aspect of the prison. The escape system and hidden items to help you get out is pretty unique and I liked that part. I would like the system more if I could limit the amount of DD items. I'm fairly certain I could have limited the sentencing time though.

Edited March 18, 2023 by Plaguetard2.0