Public Whore

[Seeker999]

3 hours ago, wHOaMiEH said:

 

 

Well if you can enthusiastically accept to be public whore for jarldoms why the hell couldnt you be promiscuous in your free time? Also that corruption system would be more of a addition to your reputation then a classic rpgm game. As for your suggestions they are pretty good.

I never enthusiastically accept being PW. I might resign myself to it, or have to be forced. I just don't want to find myself on a forced or automatic path to enjoying my humiliation and that's where I thought you were going.

 

Glad you liked my suggestions. I did have another, similar to helping the farmer but instead you're helping the stablemaster. Sweeping instead of hoeing. Visitors to the city will get an eyeful (or more ?).

[SkyAddiction]

3 hours ago, Visio Diaboli said:

Well for a minute I thought moving everything to a soft Devious Mindbreak dependency would be a solution, but looks like the mod has been abandoned. I could expand the debuff system, which already has a similar objective, but the larger that system grows, the less it's within the thematic scope of PW. I can always split the functionality off into it's own plugin if needed, not that that's ideal either.

 

DayTri rebuilt it. It's now a framework.

[wHOaMiEH]

56 minutes ago, Seeker999 said:

I never enthusiastically accept being PW. I might resign myself to it, or have to be forced. I just don't want to find myself on a forced or automatic path to enjoying my humiliation and that's where I thought you were going.

 

Glad you liked my suggestions. I did have another, similar to helping the farmer but instead you're helping the stablemaster. Sweeping instead of hoeing. Visitors to the city will get an eyeful (or more ?).

 

Well we could always use any of the paths(flat out deny, reluctance and open acceptance). More choices and diversity(not that kind of diversity khm  ) is always good for the mod.

@Visio Diaboli In any case, whatever comes easiest to you for implement will probably be universally accepted. ? 

 

ps- Edited...didnt know that the framework even existed, tnx @SkyAddiction

Edited December 28, 2021 by wHOaMiEH

[blahity]

3 hours ago, Seeker999 said:

I never enthusiastically accept being PW. I might resign myself to it, or have to be forced. I just don't want to find myself on a forced or automatic path to enjoying my humiliation and that's where I thought you were going.

 

Glad you liked my suggestions. I did have another, similar to helping the farmer but instead you're helping the stablemaster. Sweeping instead of hoeing. Visitors to the city will get an eyeful (or more ?).

I'm reminded of the old rpg saying "It's not that you can say yes but how you can say yes to accepting a quest." 

 I think people want a corruption system mainly for added dialogue options, which makes me wonder why not add more options even if several of them share the same responses? 

 

Without writing a term paper here, a "super slut" and "exhibitionist slut" and "cumslut" choice could share that same "knew a slut like you would jump at the chance to be the PW" response. The same way a "Whatever, just another quest" and "I'm getting paid for this, right?" And "I'm not faking an orgasm no matter how much they pay" could lead to the same "not gonna lie I expected a bigger reaction" response. Many roads that all lead to the same place.

 

All of them have a different flavor and allow con, noncon, or different roleplaying. 

Edited December 28, 2021 by blahity

[applesandmayo]

Does the latest version contain that guard fix? Sorry if this has been answered before, I didnt see it in the most recent changelog.

[drm62]

On 12/25/2021 at 6:18 PM, drm62 said:

What happened:

 

I lost against some bandits and got sexually assaulted (SL Defeat).

After that they sold me into slavery (SS++) - at that time i still had my Inventory and made a Save (just to be sure).

 

Solitude bought me, and my inventory got cleared. I whored around for a bit, until the known bug (SL unequips the shackles, guard no like) got me in trouble. I got public raped in the winking skeever. After that event, I noticed my whole inventory was back after someone stole a stone of Barenziah from my inventory.

(I used v1.1.0 Beta from a few days ago. My equipment was marked as stolen, and item-thieves were disabled. New Version should fix these two bugs ).

 

I reloaded the save from the Auction house (SS++) because i didnt want to deal with the lost of my (quest-)items.

 

After that i played a good whore and collected all the required gold to buy my freedom. I payed the last bit of money to the Thane, asked him to unshackle me, to remove the tattoo and ended the conversation. Checked my inventory and it was still completely empty (exept for the zaz shackels and a bit of extra money from the last client).

 

No debug options used, and i changed 2 things after the reload - made the Shackles exempt from the SL-strip and changed the item-thieve option to minvalue 350, maxvalue 300 to workaround the bug.

 

Thanks for your reply! If you need any further Information just ask. Greetings from germany

Could you find the Bug? or do you need further Information?

[Visio Diaboli]

3 hours ago, applesandmayo said:

Does the latest version contain that guard fix? Sorry if this has been answered before, I didnt see it in the most recent changelog.

Yes

 

1 hour ago, drm62 said:

Could you find the Bug? or do you need further Information?

I must have missed that post. I think I've seen it posted by one other person, don't remember if I fixed it for next version yet. If you're still using that save, you can try 'coc PW_HoldingRoom' in the console, and searching the chests there. Depending how much was broken, the items should be there.

[drunken toad]

15 hours ago, Seeker999 said:

Voluntarily going to bandit camps when not PW?

A corruption system?

Personally, I'm not a fan of turning Public Whore into another corruption mod, but that's up to you. Maybe an alternative is create an addon to PW?  If people want the corruption aspect they can download the addon. If not, they don't. One benefit might be that it is fewer things to maintain in PW, less to go wrong, and if something does bug out, it's easier to find.

 

And now I'm going to make suggestions ? if you're looking for some.

Report to Thane Whatsit and there's a random chance of one of the following:

1. If you already have a punishment score, then you have no choice about being sent to a bandit or giant camp. They won't pay, of course, and you have to depend on them to accurately report back so your remaining quota can be adjusted.
2. If you don't have a punishment score, you are given the option to go to the bandit or giant camp. In exchange, your remaining quota is wiped out when you successfully return. A kind of hazard pay.
3. Your choice: One of the local farmers needs help. Your naked self will go to that farm and help tend the crops. This will reduce your remaining quota by 4 clients. If it puts you in overtime, then bonus for you! There are hoing (hoeing?) animations in the game already you can take advantage of. If the denizens of the farm take advantage of your presence for non-crop tending purposes, well, that's life on the farm.
4. Go to the guard's barracks for morale boosting. Spend the night, guaranteed 8 off your remaining quota.
5. Diplomat/noble/respected citizen has a function. Wants the PW as entertainment. 8 off your remaining quota.

I'm with you, I think a corruption system sounds like way too much work for not a lot of pay off. With the way this mod tracks thane and dragonborn status I feel like it would way overcomplicate things and make adding any new content that much harder and more tedious. I'd much rather see other things like number 5 on your list.

[drm62]

3 hours ago, Visio Diaboli said:

I must have missed that post. I think I've seen it posted by one other person, don't remember if I fixed it for next version yet. If you're still using that save, you can try 'coc PW_HoldingRoom' in the console, and searching the chests there. Depending how much was broken, the items should be there.

 

Ok, ill try that next time i get the chance

But i have noticed something, which might help: By now I am playing with the Enforcement Option Take inventory off, so i get sold to some city and the first thing i do is store my entire inventory in some crate. But somehow I still lose my inventory (rest of it, questitems and keys and such) after i finish the last payment to the thane. So maybe there is some rogue inventory-clear (or put inventory in some chest) command in some script at the end of the whole thing?

Just as an idea ...

Edited December 29, 2021 by drm62

[Mehmeme]

It wouldnt have to be a full fledged corruption system, but Id also like to see something that makes the pc less resistant to go back into whore duty. A light corruption system would work, maybe in combination with some kind of incentive. I think there would at least be some potential there without going too far from the mods original purpose.

 

Despite all that, Id much rather see more starting quests (and maybe generally more dialogue) first.

[lcewolf]

I retry the mod with a fresh new start and try everything several time for several day. I was mostly interrested in the unending version and try it with the main quest.

 

Here's what I noticed;

• Unlike when you have enough fame as a hero or slut, The character's inventory is not taked away in the main quests of Solitude/Whiterun. I mean without the "enforcer mode" option. It works great with fame hero/slut when you arrive in front of the Thane your inventory is taken away automatically if it is selected in your MCM menu enforcer mode or not.

• I can't see anymore the bounty hunter on the road when you get out of town for more then -7 days in unending mode. I don't have any forcegreet from the guard in other hold either.

I would like to propose this to you when the PW is on the run. It would be interesting if you could put some forcegreet coming from the guards no matter the city where you are with multiple option like; Paid them an amount of gold for the guards to close their eyes. With high persuasion convince them to let you go. If you are skilled enough at Sneak run for it...

• Submissive Lola is a nice option, but could you put some restrictions before you have access to that? It would be nice if this option only appeared after a few days as PW. I suggest you leave some written choice in the meantime like; (Come back after a few days and we'll see if I can find another solution) (I still haven't had an alternative. If you work well, I will continue to look for a win-win solution.)

I don't know what its your plan for the future of this mod. If in your vision of the mod an Unending version applies only to a city or the entire Skyrim region. I also don't know if you plan to keep the quest active for one city at a time to avoid conflicts or if you plan to put a magical state on the PW (Title, rank) that would make it in all Skyrim, the pw official.

 

In the perspective that it is only one city at a time, it would be interesting if the PC could ask for help from other Jarl. If several Jarl agree to help him/her with the help of Money/Persuation the quest could end this way. It won't work well with enforcer mode.

 

If you need some help him to write the conversations between the PW and other let me know and I would be happy to write you suggestions.

 

Edited December 29, 2021 by lcewolf

[Tseverin]

I've been excited about incorporating this new version of PW. Much to my dismay, with a clean save and after running fnis, I'm getting a tpose. I have been up and down this thread and found only one possible likeness to my scenario. It's my doing, somehow: something in my load order is conflicting with it or I'm missing something stupid. Hopefully, it could be looked into or someone has a reasonable suggestion and we'll see if I've tried it already. For the time being, I'll just revert back to the previous version. I'm using SE and still running SKSE Current SE build 2.0.20 (runtime 1.5.97). I've managed to evade updates for now.

 

I did notice that when I ran fnis without PW, I'd get one warning on the generate fnis window prior to my consistency check. After installing PW, I got 2.

Edited December 29, 2021 by Tseverin

[neneXgod]

36 minutes ago, Tseverin said:

I've been excited about incorporating this new version of PW. Much to my dismay, with a clean save and after running fnis, I'm getting a tpose. I have been up and down this thread and found only one possible likeness to my scenario. It's my doing, somehow: something in my load order is conflicting with it or I'm missing something stupid. Hopefully, it could be looked into or someone has a reasonable suggestion and we'll see if I've tried it already. For the time being, I'll just revert back to the previous version. I'm using SE and still running SKSE Current SE build 2.0.20 (runtime 1.5.97). I've managed to evade updates for now.

 

I did notice that when I ran fnis without PW, I'd get one warning on the generate fnis window prior to my consistency check. After installing PW, I got 2.

Did you make sure that you download the correct version ( Public Whore v1.1.0 Beta SE.zip ) ? select the .hkx compability patch in FNIS to see which one cause that problem.

[Tseverin]

6 minutes ago, neneXgod said:

Did you make sure that you download the correct version ( Public Whore v1.1.0 Beta SE.zip ) ? select the .hkx compability patch in FNIS to see which one cause that problem.

yup.

 

I'll rerun fnis.

[Tseverin]

6 hours ago, neneXgod said:

Did you make sure that you download the correct version ( Public Whore v1.1.0 Beta SE.zip ) ? select the .hkx compability patch in FNIS to see which one cause that problem.

I reran fnis with  the .hkx compability patch checked and I get 6 warnings. All I see is "too many custom animations" and I have XXL (32000 limit).  

[PeterWitzig]

Hi there,

big fan of this mod and I'm really looking forward to further development.

Sadly, I have run into a problem in the latest version:
Hero Fame doesn't seem to recognize that I am a thane and/or the dragonborn... This had worked fine in the past, but now these flags are never set.
I haven't seen this issue come up yet, so I wanted to ask if only I am having this 'bug'. Maybe something in the MCM I botched? Hero Fame is activated btw...

[neneXgod]

5 hours ago, Tseverin said:

I reran fnis with  the .hkx compability patch checked and I get 6 warnings. All I see is "too many custom animations" and I have XXL (32000 limit).  

How many animation mod are you using. And try to disable some sexlab animation ( keep Devious Device, ZaZ enable ) to test it out, if It works then sadly you have to remove a few animation mod.

[zwdragonbone8314]

Hi, I just want to thank you for providing this great mod. I just download the lastest version with my Skyrim AE and it runs perfectly well. I just want to ask, is it possible in future version, we can have a escort guard to the PC as enforced public whore if PC wants to do the bandit quest to speed up the quota? As currently if the PC in enforced mod, she cannot leave the city, and hence is impossible to do the bandit quest. 

 

Also, just a suggestion, do you consider maybe incorporate your mod with civil war quest? As a war prisoner to become the public whore in the capital city of each faction is another convincing way to make PC as public whore. 

[Mehmeme]

22 hours ago, lcewolf said:

In the perspective that it is only one city at a time, it would be interesting if the PC could ask for help from other Jarl. If several Jarl agree to help him/her with the help of Money/Persuation the quest could end this way. It won't work well with enforcer mode.

Idk if this is what you mean, but I think a feature where you ask a jarl from another hold to pay your debt for you and in exchange you become pw in their hold might be useful. And maybe depending on your fame in that hold you have to repay the debt in addition to the usual quota. This feature could be used if you want more time, in exchange for degrading yourself in another hold and potentially adding even more money you have to come up with.

So, lets say you are pw in solitude, still owe 1000 gold but you know you cant make it in time. You then go to whiterun, ask the jarl to pay that money for you, he agrees on the condition that you become pw in whiterun, you get a new quota (eg 5000 gold) and if you were already close to being pw in whiterun anyway you also have to pay back the 1000 gold provided, ending in a 6000 gold debt, but at least your timer to come up with that money got reset.

You could even do interest on the initial debt, eg the jarl only agrees if you become pw and pay 50% interest on the original 1000 gold, resulting in a 6500 debt, maybe with an adjustable mcm slider.

Edited December 30, 2021 by Mehmeme

[shiagwen]

On 12/24/2021 at 5:04 AM, Visio Diaboli said:

Put a couple hours in today, here's where bugfixes are at (all started in TODO, moved to appropriate category as they were addressed). If an issue could not be fixed/reproduced, I'll require more details about the setup it was experienced in, and the steps to reproduce it, if I'm going to consider looking at it again.

 

TODO
-Threesome requester should follow player to avoid disappearing
-Bandit quest doesn't play nice with enforced mode
-Player should be added to blackblood marauders in addition to bandit ally for bandit quest
-Sadistic clients still stealing items, still no way to get them back
-Alternative sex trigger should be added to third in threesome, in case requester can't be spoken to properly
-Bandit quest, threesome quest should end when duty does
-Actor manager needs a reliability upgrade
-Confiscated items in bandit quest are not returned (potential solution, need to test)
-Whiterun start Belethor bug
-Whiterun start Farengar bug
-PrintQuota shows 0

FIXED
-Returned items marked stolen
-Hero fame displaying incorrectly, not making me eligible
-Successful intimidation in HF eligibility branch just continues dialogue
-Debuffs only active during sex
-Quest log is not being cleared on duty end

COULD NOT FIX
-ZaZ items stripped by SexLab -> not sure how to prevent that
-Torturer whip dealing damage -> the package used does not allow strikes to do damage
-Check ZaP ankle shackle textures -> could not reproduce
-Thane status not tracking -> could not reproduce

What time schedule do you think you need for the bugfix program ?

[Asiatore]

Hi, I just wanted to mention that I ran into something which causes my game to CTD seemingly at random.

This is the last thing that happens before the crash according to the Papyrus Logs:

 

    [PW_Main (6D000D63)].pw_mainloopscript.OnUpdate() - "pw_mainloopscript.psc" Line 232
[12/30/2021 - 06:36:54PM] VM is freezing...
[12/30/2021 - 06:36:54PM] VM is frozen
[12/30/2021 - 06:36:54PM] Saving game...
[12/30/2021 - 06:36:56PM] VM is thawing...
[12/30/2021 - 06:37:00PM] error: Array index -1 is out of range (0-8)
stack:
    [PW_Main (6D000D63)].pw_mainloopscript.OnUpdate() - "pw_mainloopscript.psc" Line 232
[12/30/2021 - 06:37:05PM] error: Array index -1 is out of range (0-8)
stack:
    [PW_Main (6D000D63)].pw_mainloopscript.OnUpdate() - "pw_mainloopscript.psc" Line 232

 

This is happening on the SE version.

As I don't know what the mainloopscript does I will just disable the mod for the moment and wait for the next version.

 

But otherwise for the time it worked it was great to play around with.

 

 

 

[lcewolf]

On 12/29/2021 at 1:50 AM, lcewolf said:

@Visio DiaboliI retry the mod with a fresh new start and try everything several time for several day. I was mostly interrested in the unending version and try it with the main quest.

 

Here's what I noticed;

• Unlike when you have enough fame as a hero or slut, The character's inventory is not taked away in the main quests of Solitude/Whiterun. I mean without the "enforcer mode" option. It works great with fame hero/slut when you arrive in front of the Thane your inventory is taken away automatically if it is selected in your MCM menu enforcer mode or not.

• I can't see anymore the bounty hunter on the road when you get out of town for more then -7 days in unending mode. I don't have any forcegreet from the guard in other hold either.

I would like to propose this to you when the PW is on the run. It would be interesting if you could put some forcegreet coming from the guards no matter the city where you are with multiple option like; Paid them an amount of gold for the guards to close their eyes. With high persuasion convince them to let you go. If you are skilled enough at Sneak run for it...

• Submissive Lola is a nice option, but could you put some restrictions before you have access to that? It would be nice if this option only appeared after a few days as PW. I suggest you leave some written choice in the meantime like; (Come back after a few days and we'll see if I can find another solution) (I still haven't had an alternative. If you work well, I will continue to look for a win-win solution.)

I don't know what its your plan for the future of this mod. If in your vision of the mod an Unending version applies only to a city or the entire Skyrim region. I also don't know if you plan to keep the quest active for one city at a time to avoid conflicts or if you plan to put a magical state on the PW (Title, rank) that would make it in all Skyrim, the pw official.

 

In the perspective that it is only one city at a time, it would be interesting if the PC could ask for help from other Jarl. If several Jarl agree to help him/her with the help of Money/Persuation the quest could end this way. It won't work well with enforcer mode.

 

If you need some help him to write the conversations between the PW and other let me know and I would be happy to write you suggestions.

 

 

13 hours ago, Mehmeme said:

Idk if this is what you mean, but I think a feature where you ask a jarl from another hold to pay your debt for you and in exchange you become pw in their hold might be useful. And maybe depending on your fame in that hold you have to repay the debt in addition to the usual quota. This feature could be used if you want more time, in exchange for degrading yourself in another hold and potentially adding even more money you have to come up with.

So, lets say you are pw in solitude, still owe 1000 gold but you know you cant make it in time. You then go to whiterun, ask the jarl to pay that money for you, he agrees on the condition that you become pw in whiterun, you get a new quota (eg 5000 gold) and if you were already close to being pw in whiterun anyway you also have to pay back the 1000 gold provided, ending in a 6000 gold debt, but at least your timer to come up with that money got reset.

You could even do interest on the initial debt, eg the jarl only agrees if you become pw and pay 50% interest on the original 1000 gold, resulting in a 6500 debt, maybe with an adjustable mcm slider.

 

Your idea have merit indeed and i like it. But i was testing the endless mode without engage the enforcer mod. Gold and client don't really matter in that case.

Edited December 30, 2021 by lcewolf

[Mehmeme]

2 hours ago, Asiatore said:

Hi, I just wanted to mention that I ran into something which causes my game to CTD seemingly at random.

This is the last thing that happens before the crash according to the Papyrus Logs:

 

    [PW_Main (6D000D63)].pw_mainloopscript.OnUpdate() - "pw_mainloopscript.psc" Line 232
[12/30/2021 - 06:36:54PM] VM is freezing...
[12/30/2021 - 06:36:54PM] VM is frozen
[12/30/2021 - 06:36:54PM] Saving game...
[12/30/2021 - 06:36:56PM] VM is thawing...
[12/30/2021 - 06:37:00PM] error: Array index -1 is out of range (0-8)
stack:
    [PW_Main (6D000D63)].pw_mainloopscript.OnUpdate() - "pw_mainloopscript.psc" Line 232
[12/30/2021 - 06:37:05PM] error: Array index -1 is out of range (0-8)
stack:
    [PW_Main (6D000D63)].pw_mainloopscript.OnUpdate() - "pw_mainloopscript.psc" Line 232

 

This is happening on the SE version.

As I don't know what the mainloopscript does I will just disable the mod for the moment and wait for the next version.

 

But otherwise for the time it worked it was great to play around with.

 

 

 

Had this happen on LE too

[Visio Diaboli]

On 12/29/2021 at 1:50 AM, lcewolf said:

Unlike when you have enough fame as a hero or slut, The character's inventory is not taked away in the main quests of Solitude/Whiterun. I mean without the "enforcer mode" option. It works great with fame hero/slut when you arrive in front of the Thane your inventory is taken away automatically if it is selected in your MCM menu enforcer mode or not.

 It's intended to leave your inventory untouched unless enforced mode is active, or maybe an item confiscation toggle? (I can't remember if that's a thing I added atm). If there's a non-enforced mode, item confiscation toggle, then it probably needs to be fixed, because I haven't touched it in so long I forgot about it.

 

On 12/29/2021 at 1:50 AM, lcewolf said:

I can't see anymore the bounty hunter on the road when you get out of town for more then -7 days in unending mode. I don't have any forcegreet from the guard in other hold either.

I'll add that to the to-do, haven't tested that in forever either.

 

 

On 12/28/2021 at 10:23 PM, drm62 said:

So maybe there is some rogue inventory-clear (or put inventory in some chest) command in some script at the end of the whole thing?

Very possibly.

 

 

22 hours ago, PeterWitzig said:

Hero Fame doesn't seem to recognize that I am a thane and/or the dragonborn... This had worked fine in the past, but now these flags are never set.
I haven't seen this issue come up yet, so I wanted to ask if only I am having this 'bug'. Maybe something in the MCM I botched? Hero Fame is activated btw...

Hero Fame is busted in the new version, will be fixed in the next

 

 

18 hours ago, zwdragonbone8314 said:

I just want to ask, is it possible in future version, we can have a escort guard to the PC as enforced public whore if PC wants to do the bandit quest to speed up the quota? As currently if the PC in enforced mod, she cannot leave the city, and hence is impossible to do the bandit quest. 

Possibly, but for the next version I'm just going to disable it during enforced mode since that's the fastest short term solution.

 

18 hours ago, zwdragonbone8314 said:

Also, just a suggestion, do you consider maybe incorporate your mod with civil war quest? As a war prisoner to become the public whore in the capital city of each faction is another convincing way to make PC as public whore. 

Eventually I will, but it'll be a large task. Not sure when I'll start on it.

 

12 hours ago, shiagwen said:

What time schedule do you think you need for the bugfix program ?

It's probably do-able by the weekend but I don't end up meeting deadlines when I set them, so I avoid doing so.

 

4 hours ago, Asiatore said:

[12/30/2021 - 06:37:00PM] error: Array index -1 is out of range (0-8)
stack:
    [PW_Main (6D000D63)].pw_mainloopscript.OnUpdate() - "pw_mainloopscript.psc" Line 232
[12/30/2021 - 06:37:05PM] error: Array index -1 is out of range (0-8)
stack:
    [PW_Main (6D000D63)].pw_mainloopscript.OnUpdate() - "pw_mainloopscript.psc" Line 232

I think it occurs while outside of a city, I encountered it during bugfixing. I fixed it, mostly; it'll still take some polishing to make it a 'good' solution.

[shiagwen]

1 hour ago, Visio Diaboli said:

 It's intended to leave your inventory untouched unless enforced mode is active, or maybe an item confiscation toggle? (I can't remember if that's a thing I added atm). If there's a non-enforced mode, item confiscation toggle, then it probably needs to be fixed, because I haven't touched it in so long I forgot about it.

 

I'll add that to the to-do, haven't tested that in forever either.

 

 

Very possibly.

 

 

Hero Fame is busted in the new version, will be fixed in the next

 

 

Possibly, but for the next version I'm just going to disable it during enforced mode since that's the fastest short term solution.

 

Eventually I will, but it'll be a large task. Not sure when I'll start on it.

 

It's probably do-able by the weekend but I don't end up meeting deadlines when I set them, so I avoid doing so.

 

I think it occurs while outside of a city, I encountered it during bugfixing. I fixed it, mostly; it'll still take some polishing to make it a 'good' solution.

So we can count on it for next wek. that would be gorgous if the bugs listed would all work fine. Would be a hammer of a mod.

Next thing i would top priorize is the bandit quest for creatures. That would be unique, i m waiting for this since creature sex came up.

Please keep up a clear eye for straight, clearly playable content like the creature quest and avoid unimportant unplayable or useless content wasting your time and raise bugs fpr nothing, as many proposes here. See Inte working on POP since 8 years, didnt get anything new in the mod, didnt get most old things running solid, opposite adding a lot of unnecessary but unsolid things. Maria Eden was  a superb mod, fantastic, but totally buggy and Zaira never took the time to repair bugs. He continued with new things with new bugs instead making the mod playable. Those examples could be continued.

Edited December 30, 2021 by shiagwen