gekker Posted August 17, 2025 Posted August 17, 2025 4 hours ago, gekker said: Thank you for this. I suspect it is the script failing but will try your method and report back later. Yeah just infinite "Sorry not interested" even after fully training with the spell, regardless of customer.
tonitrulupus Posted August 17, 2025 Posted August 17, 2025 3 hours ago, DonQuiWho said: But on another tack, how do you recruit slavers without having beaten them half to death first? I crank up the health up to 650 health, that way I have the options of recruit or abduct on just about everyone, just have to watch it when you talk to them, you don't choose recruit instead of talk to or abduct, on the recruit, it still relies on personality and I believe your ranking in DOM. its still hit an miss just to ask them, and you can get just about any draugr, troll, riklin, or NPC, just be carful, for example I did get a wolf but it made ALL wolves essential, so killing them really sucked lol, so unless your near the location or you can get to the training location, don't get creatures, sometime they will be killed if a NPC sees them or if other NPC of the same creature type attack you, you either will lose the new trainer or unable to kill the attacker, the recruiting its about 1 out of 5 or 6 asked from the get go without having to do anything else with them. 1
fred200 Posted August 17, 2025 Posted August 17, 2025 17 hours ago, SkyrimOne said: I am making a new attempt to have DOM and AYGAS integrated. To date, I failed miserably. To sell DOM slaves, I used the workaround of moving the slave to PAHE and then approach a potential buyer. But no more! I want to use the feature as it is meant to be... as for the latest release stated you can sell slaves straight from DOM. I have installed the latest 7.9.4a and the AYGAS (latest I can download). I have installed DOM (on my MO2 modlist I have disabled any previous version) and it found AYGAS. I have enabled the patch as suggested. In the MO2 order, DOM comes first and AYGAS later. And that is the same as for the plug-in order. I started a new game, waited for the magic to work. I opened MCM and checked AYGAS under integration. It still does not see DOM as installed. (it shows no present). I have also PAHE installed as for the latest. Another failure? Anyone has got the 2 working- you sell DOM slaves instead of PAHE slaves? Many thanks! DOM has to come after everything. Only use patches from DOM.
Revdrsyn Posted August 17, 2025 Posted August 17, 2025 (edited) Hi. Installed the mod. Take a second and realize *this is amazing*. You've created a dark romance simulator. The diaries are amazing. The psychology, the uniqueness of slaves. Installed everything, voice packs, Pandora. Everything works far better than one would hope. I know it's labor, and it's just amazing work. Thank you. P.S. I am a professional writer/game designer, and if you want some help with diary text, I'm available. Not that it's not already great! Edited August 17, 2025 by Revdrsyn 3
TrollAutokill Posted August 17, 2025 Author Posted August 17, 2025 8 hours ago, DonQuiWho said: But on another tack, how do you recruit slavers without having beaten them half to death first? If they are aggressive you need to show your strength first (beat them down). Otherwise you need to chat with them. If they have low honesty and low openness the dialogue to recruit will appear under "let's have a serious chat". Last possibility is to raise their relationship to 4 with the player. The dialogue will appear even if honesty is high. 1
TrollAutokill Posted August 17, 2025 Author Posted August 17, 2025 9 minutes ago, Revdrsyn said: Hi. Installed the mod. Take a second and realize *this is amazing*. You've created a dark romance simulator. The diaries are amazing. The psychology, the uniqueness of slaves. Installed everything, voice packs, Pandora. Everything works far better than one would hope. I know it's labor, and it's just amazing work. Thank you. P.S. I am a professional writer/game designer, and if you want some help with diary text, I'm available. Not that it's not already great! All diary text can be improved, and that would be great for people trying to include it in AI. If you have the patience you can dig into DOM_Diary.psc code. Otherwise just send me your suggestion in PM.
Revdrsyn Posted August 17, 2025 Posted August 17, 2025 I'll take a look. It was not a critique. This is an amazing mod man. I have felt things, it's intense. The fact that there are baseline personalities make it really matter and differentiate between slaves. The fact that I have to enslave a drauger and bring it back to use to fulfill slave fetishes is peak gameplay. Well done, worked out of the box, no problems. Amazing. Looking forward to fellglow camp being finished and being able to sell these. 1
tonitrulupus Posted August 17, 2025 Posted August 17, 2025 7 minutes ago, Revdrsyn said: This is an amazing mod man. I have felt things, it's intense. The fact that there are baseline personalities make it really matter and differentiate between slaves. I started with PAHE/HSH and when this one came out I installed it, now all I use is DOM, far better design and implemented, though there are a few minor issues here and there, some created or surface with updates, but none of them are game breaking and very minor, at least to me. Over all I prefer this mod over all other that are like it. 4
Mimolette27 Posted August 17, 2025 Posted August 17, 2025 Is there a way for trainers to use the Display Model Torture devices during training instead of spawning them themselves ?
Fraying9981 Posted August 17, 2025 Posted August 17, 2025 2 hours ago, tonitrulupus said: I started with PAHE/HSH and when this one came out I installed it, now all I use is DOM, far better design and implemented, though there are a few minor issues here and there, some created or surface with updates, but none of them are game breaking and very minor, at least to me. Over all I prefer this mod over all other that are like it. 100% agree, same experience. Kudos to the author for upgrading, balancing and maintaining over the years! The irony for me is I went into DoM after trying several times to make Pahe work again on different saves, without success. I wish I had made the switch much earlier. 5
DerangedLoner Posted August 17, 2025 Posted August 17, 2025 (edited) 17 hours ago, verydarknut said: Quote I don't think it's been mentioned in this thread, but the DOM Acheron add-on was just updated a week ago for the latest DOM version, so presumably it'll work better now, though I personally wasn't seeing any problems with it. Most notably, it no longer requires PAHE, though Enthralled, which is great fun and works well with DOM, still does depend on having PAHE installed. Not quite true. The patch in DOM fomod patches "Enthralled Custom NPCs for Pahe v1.5.1_" to not require PAHE. Wow, it's confusing. There's this in the main description for the addon: Quote Version 7 requires the Enthralled DOM7 Patch in the downloads. Earlier versions do not. The patch is esl flagged. In the comments, you'll find main files that are not dependant on PAH, these are experimental. And then there's the changelog for Version 1.5.1 (which is actually a changelog for the updated patches--Version 1.5.1 was released a month earlier, and hasn't changed): Quote What's New in Version 1.5.1 Released July 7 Updated patches for players who don't have PAHE, no changes in main file. *High Poly Head+KSHairdo's patch: removed the PAHE master. Works both with and without PAHE. If you have PAHE installed you don't need to update. *Missive patch: two versions: the standard version is the one that was uploaded before, it requires PAHE. The DOM only version does not require PAHE, but also won't support it. Other patches should still work. If you're using the Enthralled patch that was included in DOM's version 7.8 FOMOD, you don't need the DOM7 patch. If you are not and are using PAHE+DOM, you still need the DOM7 patch. According to a post yesterday by the author, @a_random_user, a PAHE-free version is planned for the future, meaning PAHE is still required. However, in MO2 the only things I see depending on PAHE are the patches, so I'm not sure what @a_random_user is talking about. Maybe he means a version that would work without either PAHE or DOM? While investigating all of this, I realized I had both the patch published with Enthralled and the one from the DOM FOMOD installed (which is probably why the FOMOD wasn't auto-checking the latter patch--I reported that to @TrollAutokill but never got an answer), without any apparent problems, but the patch published with Enthralled shouldn't be necessary. Finally, it bears noting that if you don't install PAHE, you don't get the Farenger's Study plugin, which, among other things, gives you two highly valuable copies of the enchanted Iron Collar of Slave Leashing, which allows freshly captured slaves to be fully mobile with no chance of escaping. CORRECTION: It looks like the reason the DOM FOMOD doesn't auto-check the Enthralled patch is because it works only with DOM, not if you have both PAHE and DOM installed (in which case you need the patch from the Enthralled page). Edited August 17, 2025 by DerangedLoner 2
DerangedLoner Posted August 17, 2025 Posted August 17, 2025 15 hours ago, fred200 said: DOM has to come after everything. Only use patches from DOM. Except for the DOM Acheron addon.
myhouseatl Posted August 17, 2025 Posted August 17, 2025 I am getting a CTD when ever I approach Valtheim Towers with paradise_halls_fellglow_slave_camp.esp enabled. When I do manage to approach somewhat close, there are bad mesh's from some of the NPC's. (Meshes splatter all over the screen) I tried to convert all the files in DOM without success. (Cathedral did report some face meshes that it converted.) Disabling the .esp fixes the issue.
Revdrsyn Posted August 17, 2025 Posted August 17, 2025 12 hours ago, TrollAutokill said: All diary text can be improved, and that would be great for people trying to include it in AI. If you have the patience you can dig into DOM_Diary.psc code. Otherwise just send me your suggestion in PM. I'm looking into it. I've got some other stuff going on, but I'll PM you my suggestions once I can get them together. I'll shoot for something stylistically in the dark romance category, classic stuff like JJ Argus. 2
Fakeganda Posted August 17, 2025 Posted August 17, 2025 On 8/16/2025 at 12:55 AM, TrollAutokill said: Either you have DOM perks off (check DOM MCM player's tab) or you just have PAH installed. On 8/16/2025 at 6:30 AM, tonitrulupus said: I can get those options to not show by changing the health / % under capture. Change it to health option 10, it wont show on 99%of NPC, change it to 1000 health it should come up on everything. And since some NPC like children, fox, rat, some wolves, etc, are under the default of 30 health, I get those option when the game starts. seems just had to check the mcm box for DOM perk, thank you both for the reply. 1
a_random_user Posted August 17, 2025 Posted August 17, 2025 2 hours ago, DerangedLoner said: 19 hours ago, verydarknut said: Quote I don't think it's been mentioned in this thread, but the DOM Acheron add-on was just updated a week ago for the latest DOM version, so presumably it'll work better now, though I personally wasn't seeing any problems with it. Most notably, it no longer requires PAHE, though Enthralled, which is great fun and works well with DOM, still does depend on having PAHE installed. Not quite true. The patch in DOM fomod patches "Enthralled Custom NPCs for Pahe v1.5.1_" to not require PAHE. Wow, it's confusing. There's this in the main description for the addon: Quote Version 7 requires the Enthralled DOM7 Patch in the downloads. Earlier versions do not. The patch is esl flagged. In the comments, you'll find main files that are not dependant on PAH, these are experimental. And then there's the changelog for Version 1.5.1 (which is actually a changelog for the updated patches--Version 1.5.1 was released a month earlier, and hasn't changed): Quote What's New in Version 1.5.1 Released July 7 Updated patches for players who don't have PAHE, no changes in main file. *High Poly Head+KSHairdo's patch: removed the PAHE master. Works both with and without PAHE. If you have PAHE installed you don't need to update. *Missive patch: two versions: the standard version is the one that was uploaded before, it requires PAHE. The DOM only version does not require PAHE, but also won't support it. Other patches should still work. If you're using the Enthralled patch that was included in DOM's version 7.8 FOMOD, you don't need the DOM7 patch. If you are not and are using PAHE+DOM, you still need the DOM7 patch. According to a post yesterday by the author, @a_random_user, a PAHE-free version is planned for the future, meaning PAHE is still required. However, in MO2 the only things I see depending on PAHE are the patches, so I'm not sure what @a_random_user is talking about. Maybe he means a version that would work without either PAHE or DOM? While investigating all of this, I realized I had both the patch published with Enthralled and the one from the DOM FOMOD installed (which is probably why the FOMOD wasn't auto-checking the latter patch--I reported that to @TrollAutokill but never got an answer), without any apparent problems, but the patch published with Enthralled shouldn't be necessary. Finally, it bears noting that if you don't install PAHE, you don't get the Farenger's Study plugin, which, among other things, gives you two highly valuable copies of the enchanted Iron Collar of Slave Leashing, which allows freshly captured slaves to be fully mobile with no chance of escaping. CORRECTION: It looks like the reason the DOM FOMOD doesn't auto-check the Enthralled patch is because it works only with DOM, not if you have both PAHE and DOM installed (in which case you need the patch from the Enthralled page). To hopefully bring some clarity here. The main download of Enthralled requires PAH, and supports DOM up to version 6 . You always need the main download, even if you'll overwrite parts of it. If you want to use PAH and DOM version 7 at the same time, you use the DOM7 patch from Enthralled. If you want to use DOM only, you can use the option in DOM's fomod. This is a version of the main esp file with the pah dependency replaced with DOM. I also added my own version of a PAH less esp file in the comments of the file. The reason that I didn't post it on the download page was that I hadn't tested it yet. The old HPH head and Missive patch also still listed PAH as a requirement, so I uploaded a version that didn't need them. Missives patch needed to have either PAH or DOM as a master, which is why there are two versions of that patch. For the next update, I've completely remade the Missives patch from scratch, making it dependent on neither of them. Next version, I want to streamline this a bit, and make sure all up to date patches will be on Enthralled downloads page. I was looking into making a FOMOD myself, but I won't have the time to get that before the next update. It's coming soon. 4
crazymango54 Posted August 17, 2025 Posted August 17, 2025 20 hours ago, gekker said: Yeah just infinite "Sorry not interested" even after fully training with the spell, regardless of customer. So it's likely the script isn't running correctly. In that case you'll want to make sure that you have everything installed right because a disordered set of overrides could easily break that script. In your install, you want DOM to win all conflicts with the other PAHE mods. DOM will provide its own versions of HSH and AYGAS esp files, so it's important that those are the ones being used, not the ones from the original mods. If you are using MO2, click on Diary of Mine in the left panel, and you should see some (blue) highlighted esp files in the right panel, make sure that you see AYGAS and HSH (if you are using that) as that will confirm that DOM's versions are winning. If all of that is already the case, then it could be a problem with the script being able to assert itself. In that case you could use Elephant's Script Latency mod to check your latency in-game, should be between 60 and 80, anything higher could be causing the issue. Aside from that, you could start a new game and see if it works, if it works on a new game, then it's a resource issue, if it still doesn't work on a new game, it's an installation issue. 1
crazymango54 Posted August 17, 2025 Posted August 17, 2025 3 hours ago, Revdrsyn said: I'm looking into it. I've got some other stuff going on, but I'll PM you my suggestions once I can get them together. I'll shoot for something stylistically in the dark romance category, classic stuff like JJ Argus. You'll want to check out Enthralled if you haven't already. 1
Revdrsyn Posted August 18, 2025 Posted August 18, 2025 3 hours ago, crazymango54 said: You'll want to check out Enthralled if you haven't already. The instructions were *very* convoluted, but I think I managed to get it running. We'll see. 1
DerangedLoner Posted August 18, 2025 Posted August 18, 2025 4 minutes ago, Revdrsyn said: The instructions were *very* convoluted, but I think I managed to get it running. We'll see. Sometimes I wonder how easy it is to deal with complex mod interactions if you're not a professional developer or the like. 1
crazymango54 Posted August 18, 2025 Posted August 18, 2025 31 minutes ago, Revdrsyn said: The instructions were *very* convoluted, but I think I managed to get it running. We'll see. It was unfortunate because Enthralled came out like the same week as DOM v7 was released, which brought a lot of internal changes. There was also popular demand for a version of the mod that didn't require PAHE since many users have migrated to DOM alone; the author of DOM also helped with this compatibility by having his own option in the installer. PAHE was a requirement of DOM for years, so the change was relatively recent. So with the unfortunate timing, the demand to remove PAHE, and two authors trying to cooperate to bridge the gaps, we're left with some oddities. I'm sure it won't be long before that becomes much simpler. Assuming you are on the latest DOM version (v7), I would recommend that you just use DOM alone without PAHE if you aren't already, and just follow the third step of the instructions. 5 hours ago, a_random_user said: If you want to use DOM only, you can use the option in DOM's fomod. This is a version of the main esp file with the pah dependency replaced with DOM. So, just install the regular Enthralled mod, then install DOM again and select the Enthralled patch from the installer, and just make sure DOM wins the conflict. If you already did that, you should be good to go. The way you'll know if it works right is if you get a slave (Bette in Riften is a good test, jail slaves too) and you see the little widget pop-up saying you have them, that would mean DOM picked them up correctly. 2
Revdrsyn Posted August 18, 2025 Posted August 18, 2025 I got it working. I'm looking forward to discovering the quests on my next playthrough. 2
DerangedLoner Posted August 18, 2025 Posted August 18, 2025 On 8/16/2025 at 8:37 PM, DerangedLoner said: I don't think it's been mentioned in this thread, but the DOM Acheron add-on was just updated a week ago for the latest DOM version, so presumably it'll work better now, though I personally wasn't seeing any problems with it. Most notably, it no longer requires PAHE, though Enthralled, which is great fun and works well with DOM, still does depend on having PAHE installed. Quick note: if you are still using PAHE, I advise continuing to use @shuman85's modification of the older version of the Acheron addon--my experience with the new version (2.1.1) is that when you use the Activate key on a defeated NPC, the PAHE enslavement widget pops up first, and has to be canceled out of to get to the Hunter's Pride widget.
TrollAutokill Posted August 18, 2025 Author Posted August 18, 2025 (edited) On 8/17/2025 at 8:43 PM, DerangedLoner said: Except for the DOM Acheron addon. Yes the DOM archeron addon is not included in the DOM fomod. Also the enthralled patch will be removed from the DOM fomod next update. Since Enthralled is actively being developed it makes sense for the t to include its own patches. Same for Archeron. Edited August 18, 2025 by TrollAutokill 1
TrollAutokill Posted August 18, 2025 Author Posted August 18, 2025 On 8/17/2025 at 9:52 PM, myhouseatl said: I am getting a CTD when ever I approach Valtheim Towers with paradise_halls_fellglow_slave_camp.esp enabled. When I do manage to approach somewhat close, there are bad mesh's from some of the NPC's. (Meshes splatter all over the screen) I tried to convert all the files in DOM without success. (Cathedral did report some face meshes that it converted.) Disabling the .esp fixes the issue. WIP. Hopefully will be fixed in the September update when I get back to my computer.
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