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I have discovered that when you reassign slaves from DOM to HSH and vice versa, they frequently acquire other slaves' names. It looks like the names must be linked to the roster slots.

Edited by DerangedLoner
Posted
1 hour ago, TrollAutokill said:

You manage their outfit by  putting in their inventory, the stuff you want them to wear and only that. Then you have order to tell them to wear clothes, armor and weapons or nothing. They will use what's in their inventory accordingly.

 

I thought that I had made an eejit of myself further up the thread by saying likewise, and a number of kind souls tried to point me onwards and upwards to the 'Great Heavenly Slave Apparel' changing rooms

 

But I have since seen a few people adding posts saying the same as @Fraying9981  and, for example, despite our seemingly doing what you have just said, in every possible prompt combination down to 'Simple Simon Says', I for one still can't get clothing to appear on my slaves (some will occasionally make a half hearted effort but that, unfortuanately, won't normally outlast the boss lady leaving the cell, and then re-entering.  However, most just won't play 'dress up' at all, no matter what combinations of persuasion I use - Menus, dialogues, even if they change to imply that clothing is now de rigeur and should be showing as the slave prances down the great Skyrim Catwalk 🙄

 

FWIW, this has been true with slaves with added Zaz items, and DD's (DDNGs in my case).  The restraints do show, but nothing can persuade a stitch of the clothing in their inventory to show up to maintain their modesty, or not as the case may be

 

Is there any possibility that maybe some aspects of restraint wearing is screwing the pooch?  Even if screwing the pooch might actually be easier without the clothing in the first place? 😀

 

We might all be wrong, but there seems to be quite a few of us with this issue, and while I'm prepared to admit that I might be stupid, I doubt if all the others are ,,,, ☺️

 

FWIW ... 😊

 

DQW 

 

 

 

   

Posted
40 minutes ago, DonQuiWho said:

But I have since seen a few people adding posts saying the same as @Fraying9981  and, for example, despite our seemingly doing what you have just said, in every possible prompt combination down to 'Simple Simon Says', I for one still can't get clothing to appear on my slaves (some will occasionally make a half hearted effort but that, unfortuanately, won't normally outlast the boss lady leaving the cell, and then re-entering.  However, most just won't play 'dress up' at all, no matter what combinations of persuasion I use - Menus, dialogues, even if they change to imply that clothing is now de rigeur and should be showing as the slave prances down the great Skyrim Catwalk 🙄

 

 

to be precise, the outfit that didn't show was a piercing with a weird slot so probably not related to this mod.

Posted
4 hours ago, DerangedLoner said:

 

Also, be warned that the results aren't perfect: what slaves will wear and not wear isn't always consistent (e.g., the backpacks from Wet and Cold might or might not be worn, especially if you order "No armor"), slaves will sometimes strip bare moving between cells (you then have to reissue clothing orders--but sometimes there's just a delay of a minute or so before they re-dress), and one person earlier noted that they might refuse the "Be naked" order.

It's also worth noting that you can allow/disallow Wet & Cold items in the MCM for slaves and slavers each. The second thing with stripping randomly is a bug, and the last thing is an intended feature where slaves will equip clothes even when ordered to be naked (if they have clothes in their inventory) you can punish them if they do that.

Posted
3 hours ago, Fraying9981 said:

to be precise, the outfit that didn't show was a piercing with a weird slot so probably not related to this mod.

I have had slave have the piercings and normally the nipple that the body slide was not working or I had used the wrong body type and either a) it sat out way from the body or be way inside the breasts. I confirmed this by using free camera and looking in to her body from back to front. 

If the yare on the breasts, run your slides on the correct body type, I normally use cbbe slime , though other are starting to go with obody which I would love to add it but I am being lazy and besides I would love to have someone come up with something that could make everything work on any body type, but so is life and the limitations of older games.

Though at least obody changed body size and shape from what I understand between 0-100 which is still cool due to the verity.

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I was able to play for a bit and it's amazing.

I really like the attention to detail and balance, which lead to a very clean, stable and immersive experience.

It's night and day compared with standard Pahe that is riddled with bugs, no wheel, and repetitive tasks.

 

I had a couple of questions:

  1. My HSH is still not showing up the "stay for a while here" option for a house cell. Do I need to make somebody guard the house cell before I can drop slaves? I'm running PAH Diary Of Mine 7.9.2_SE_fomod, with its HSH patch. It's overwriting HSH that is installed without the old DoM patch (as instructed).
  2. Is it OK to install bathing after I've started playing? Or completely unsafe? I must admit I'm encouraged by the animations and immersion.
  3. Does any sex increase sex training or just sex with the player and via dialogue/the wheel?
  4. How do you end the masturbation order sequence? except by resetting with the debug key/the dialogue stop what you are doing?
  5. The mod is really clean in overriding other animations. I use OAR live action and while they don't trigger anymore, the DoM's own animation are good so I don't mind. I did notice a conflict with Dynamic Female Modesty, FYI = DoM animation will mix with DFM sometimes. Anyway, wondering whether OAR can coexist with DoM, or you chose to filter out/replace them with DoM ones in DoM to avoid conflicts
  6. Is there a way to know before capture what is the personality of an NPC? I love the RNG aspect of training, and would like to target more precisely. Edit: found it via dialogue + spells.

 

Papyrus log for DOM HSH

Spoiler
[08/13/2025 - 05:29:39PM] HSHInterface: ============================================================================
[08/13/2025 - 05:29:39PM] HSHInterface: ==                           DOM: HSH Interface                           ==
[08/13/2025 - 05:29:39PM] HSHInterface: ============================================================================
[08/13/2025 - 05:29:39PM] HSHInterface: Initialize DOM for HSH success!

 

Edited by Fraying9981
Posted
17 hours ago, tonitrulupus said:

I have had slave have the piercings and normally the nipple that the body slide was not working or I had used the wrong body type and either a) it sat out way from the body or be way inside the breasts. I confirmed this by using free camera and looking in to her body from back to front. 

If the yare on the breasts, run your slides on the correct body type, I normally use cbbe slime , though other are starting to go with obody which I would love to add it but I am being lazy and besides I would love to have someone come up with something that could make everything work on any body type, but so is life and the limitations of older games.

Though at least obody changed body size and shape from what I understand between 0-100 which is still cool due to the verity.

If you are not using OBody, you are not lazy. You are doing way more than you have to.
With Obody you build your bodyslide once to zeroed sliders. Then Obody will morph the outfit in-game to any BS-preset you have installed.

I have 300 cbbe-3ba-presets installed and they all can be selected in-game and get automatically applied to NPCs. It doesn't change body weight, it changes the BS sliders.
I usually download a mod, build it in BS and then delete the BS folder from the mod to save hard drive space. Unless they have fancy ZAP settings I only need the BS files once.

Although it can't mix cbbe 3ba, BHUNP, UBE and TNG, since they all have different names for their sliders and morph different 3d models. 
So installing BHUNP piercings on a 3ba body will have offsets.
But cbbe slim is just a bodyslide preset for cbbe, it can be used with all the other CBBE presets. CBBE can also be applied to CBBE 3ba, but 3ba has more sliders, so presets made for 3ba will look different on CBBE.

Like really, you are are missing out lol

Posted
27 minutes ago, verydarknut said:

If you are not using OBody, you are not lazy. You are doing way more than you have to.
With Obody you build your bodyslide once to zeroed sliders. Then Obody will morph the outfit in-game to any BS-preset you have installed.

I have 300 cbbe-3ba-presets installed and they all can be selected in-game and get automatically applied to NPCs. It doesn't change body weight, it changes the BS sliders.
I usually download a mod, build it in BS and then delete the BS folder from the mod to save hard drive space. Unless they have fancy ZAP settings I only need the BS files once.

Although it can't mix cbbe 3ba, BHUNP, UBE and TNG, since they all have different names for their sliders and morph different 3d models. 
So installing BHUNP piercings on a 3ba body will have offsets.
But cbbe slim is just a bodyslide preset for cbbe, it can be used with all the other CBBE presets. CBBE can also be applied to CBBE 3ba, but 3ba has more sliders, so presets made for 3ba will look different on CBBE.

Like really, you are are missing out lol

 

may i ask how did you manage to get piercings working with obody on 3ba?

mines generally have offset unless it's fairly large size breasts.

 

I did zeroed sliders

Posted
16 minutes ago, Fraying9981 said:

Although it can't mix cbbe 3ba, BHUNP, UBE and TNG, since they all have different names for their sliders and morph different 3d models. 
So installing BHUNP piercings on a 3ba body will have offsets.
But cbbe slim is just a bodyslide preset for cbbe, it can be used with all the other CBBE presets. CBBE can also be applied to CBBE 3ba, but 3ba has more sliders, so presets made for 3ba will look different on CBBE.

So your saying it will do all the CBBE 3ba body types?  Curvy, slim and I guess vanilla.

Posted
1 hour ago, Fraying9981 said:

 

may i ask how did you manage to get piercings working with obody on 3ba?

mines generally have offset unless it's fairly large size breasts.

 

I did zeroed sliders

Assuming you installed everything correct and everything overwrites correctly, there is still the ORefit setting in OBody MCM. It tries to give pushup to breasts when wearing clothing, but it doesn't apply the same effect to layered clothing like piercings. I never got it to work correctly, so I have ORefit disabled.

Also the Device hider setting in Devious Device's MCM will by default hide percings while wearing something in slot 32.
Another factor of clothing and piecing not aligning is when the bone-weights of a clothing is different to naked body. Some clothes have lessened jiggliness build in, ie chest plates, but the piercing doesn't know that, it uses naked jiggliness. Which leads to clipping

But I still do not know which piercing mod you're using, but I got Devious Devices, Invicta Lingerines and DX Fetish Fashions nipple piercing installed and they animate correctly in sync with the nipples for me.

But also, don't use lockable Devious Devices with DOM slaves, DOMs inventory manager freaks out when it has to process them, leading to script lag and slaves not correctly equipping their gear.
 

 

2 hours ago, tonitrulupus said:

So your saying it will do all the CBBE 3ba body types?  Curvy, slim and I guess vanilla.

Yes, those are just bodyslide-presets shipped by default with Bodyslide. Not different from the thousands of bodyslide presets on Nexus

Posted
9 hours ago, Fraying9981 said:

I was able to play for a bit and it's amazing.

I really like the attention to detail and balance, which lead to a very clean, stable and immersive experience.

It's night and day compared with standard Pahe that is riddled with bugs, no wheel, and repetitive tasks.

 

I had a couple of questions:

  1. My HSH is still not showing up the "stay for a while here" option for a house cell. Do I need to make somebody guard the house cell before I can drop slaves? I'm running PAH Diary Of Mine 7.9.2_SE_fomod, with its HSH patch. It's overwriting HSH that is installed without the old DoM patch (as instructed).
  2. Is it OK to install bathing after I've started playing? Or completely unsafe? I must admit I'm encouraged by the animations and immersion.
  3. Does any sex increase sex training or just sex with the player and via dialogue/the wheel?
  4. How do you end the masturbation order sequence? except by resetting with the debug key/the dialogue stop what you are doing?
  5. The mod is really clean in overriding other animations. I use OAR live action and while they don't trigger anymore, the DoM's own animation are good so I don't mind. I did notice a conflict with Dynamic Female Modesty, FYI = DoM animation will mix with DFM sometimes. Anyway, wondering whether OAR can coexist with DoM, or you chose to filter out/replace them with DoM ones in DoM to avoid conflicts
  6. Is there a way to know before capture what is the personality of an NPC? I love the RNG aspect of training, and would like to target more precisely. Edit: found it via dialogue + spells.

1. No idea, I don't use HSH
2. Should be okay to install bathing on an existing save, it is a standalone mod. Also DOM only uses the animation from BIS, not the scripts. Although it is possible to import slaves into "Bathing in Skyrim - Renewed", either by telling them to be combat slaves, at which point the game partially treats them as followers, or by giving a bathing-token to the slave. I do that with almost all my slaves, it's cool to have them visually dirty. Even of that means i have to bath them twice. Sadly, DOM doesnt do visible dirt on it's own
3. Any sex counts, some dialogue and punishment counts. If you want to cheese it, the plugs accessed with Y->Tie up->Gag/Plugs also add training at broken speed
4. Any command really. Either tie up, tell them to pose or tell them to follow. Unless they are stuck at the end of their animation, which sometimes can happen. Then K to "reset" is the only way.
5. You can use OAR and DOM together no problem. Some animations are already tweaked when you install DOM, like DD NG and some modesty mods. If you want to exclude Dynamic Female Modesty, you can add the condition "NOT IsInFaction DiaryOfMine.esm | 58FC50" with OARs ingame-menu to DFMs OAR rules, to exclude the "DOM Actor Faction".
But DOMs idle animation will work no matter what, since it plays animations directly, rather than replacing the default-anims like OAR mods.
6. Easiest way is hotkeys. "NPC Traits key", "NPC feelings key" "Slave mood information". ( 8,9,0 for me) By holding shift you either get the stats either as words or numbers
 

Posted
10 hours ago, Fraying9981 said:

I was able to play for a bit and it's amazing.

I really like the attention to detail and balance, which lead to a very clean, stable and immersive experience.

It's night and day compared with standard Pahe that is riddled with bugs, no wheel, and repetitive tasks.

 

I had a couple of questions:

  1. My HSH is still not showing up the "stay for a while here" option for a house cell. Do I need to make somebody guard the house cell before I can drop slaves? I'm running PAH Diary Of Mine 7.9.2_SE_fomod, with its HSH patch. It's overwriting HSH that is installed without the old DoM patch (as instructed).

 

 

Not sure what's going on in your case, but no, you don't need anyone to guard the house or camp--I've assigned a slaver to guard Breezehome, but because HSH doesn't handle slavers, the Breezehome HSH cell shows up as "Unguarded" (not that it matters in the least).

 

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6. Is there a way to know before capture what is the personality of an NPC? I love the RNG aspect of training, and would like to target more precisely. Edit: found it via dialogue + spells.

 

You want to ask for a serious chat, then pick "What kind of a person are you, exactly?" Obviously, that won't work in combat, but you should still be able to bring up the dialog on an Acheron Defeated NPC (but I don't remember for sure if that brings up "Serious chat", or just "Have you ever dreamed of having a servant?" prompt).

Posted
1 hour ago, verydarknut said:

Yes, those are just bodyslide-presets shipped by default with Bodyslide. Not different from the thousands of bodyslide presets on Nexus

Cool, just wish it would do all types (BHUNP, UBE and TNG) but I think that could crash the game, to much going on 

Posted
2 hours ago, verydarknut said:

I never got it to work correctly, so I have ORefit disabled.

 

thanks, i've started doing that too

2 hours ago, verydarknut said:

But also, don't use lockable Devious Devices with DOM slaves, DOMs inventory manager freaks out when it has to process them, leading to script lag and slaves not correctly equipping their gear.

 

that's...good to know lol. I'm actually equipping them with unforgiving devices right now. probably not a good idea

1 hour ago, verydarknut said:

3. Any sex counts, some dialogue and punishment counts. If you want to cheese it, the plugs accessed with Y->Tie up->Gag/Plugs also add training at broken speed

 

thanks! so the unlocked devious ones?

1 hour ago, verydarknut said:

add the condition "NOT IsInFaction DiaryOfMine.esm | 58FC50" with OARs ingame-menu to DFMs OAR rules, to exclude the "DOM Actor Faction".

 

thanks!

1 hour ago, DerangedLoner said:

Not sure what's going on in your case, but no, you don't need anyone to guard the house or camp--I've assigned a slaver to guard Breezehome, but because HSH doesn't handle slavers, the Breezehome HSH cell shows up as "Unguarded" (not that it matters in the least).

 

 

thanks. ok. well in my case it's simply the dialogue line to drop slaves that is not showing up

Posted

I cant figure out how to sell DoM slaves with AYGAS. none of the convos for shopkeeps or npcs have anything related to selling. I have the DoM patch which i figured should overwrite AYGAS but should AYGAS be overwriting DoM?

Posted
4 minutes ago, just_dominic said:

I cant figure out how to sell DoM slaves with AYGAS. none of the convos for shopkeeps or npcs have anything related to selling. I have the DoM patch which i figured should overwrite AYGAS but should AYGAS be overwriting DoM?

"PAH Diary of Mine" should overwrite AYGAS's scripts and esp. It is part of DOMs FOMOD installer, you don't need a separate patch. You should see a dialog "Ever dreamt of having a servant" on NPCs.
Also sometimes it takes a moment for the script to recognize which slaves are around you.

 

Posted (edited)
29 minutes ago, verydarknut said:

"PAH Diary of Mine" should overwrite AYGAS's scripts and esp. It is part of DOMs FOMOD installer, you don't need a separate patch. You should see a dialog "Ever dreamt of having a servant" on NPCs.
Also sometimes it takes a moment for the script to recognize which slaves are around you.

 

the patch i was refering to was in the fomod installer. currently DoM is very close to the bottom of my mo2 and is overwriting all the PAHE mods. i have never seen that dialogue option "Ever dreamt of having a servant" appear though.
my mo2 (filtered for pah)
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Edited by just_dominic
Posted
1 hour ago, Fraying9981 said:

thanks! so the unlocked devious ones?

 

I never tried using DDs plugs or ZAZs plugs. Maybe they also add to training, since DOM recognizes the keywords according to a quick skim of the scripts. Apparently it also recognizes the keywords from Darkwood Manufacturing Toys 201 , which I didn't know before. I'll have to experiment.
But from what I can tell from my limited papyrus skill perusing the source files, it should equally work with DDs plugs, Darkwood toys, ZAZ and DOM. Any other plug would need keywords added.  

 

I always use the plugs built into DOM, that get spawned with the wheel menu. There I can say that they raise anal and vaginal training to 100 in a few days, much faster than manual training and also add greatly to DOMs arousal stat.

Posted
23 minutes ago, just_dominic said:

the patch i was refering to was in the fomod installer. currently DoM is very close to the bottom of my mo2 and is overwriting all the PAHE mods. i have never seen that dialogue option "Ever dreamt of having a servant" appear though.
my mo2 (filtered for pah)
image.thumb.png.fb44e2fe4ad531a2b5272143e788c18c.png

I would say it looks correct. I ditched Paradise Halls a while ago though, so not sure how that might interfere. For me the dialogue just shows up, when I have slaves nearby, no MCM changes or anything needed. 
Hmm, sometimes it seems like the script recognizing slaves for AYGAS picks up on slaves better when talking to them. But that might just be me going insane.
But also AYGAS is a slow script-heavy mod, even worse in script-heavy environments. 
Sorry about this esoteric answer, I never encountered your issue. Only the dialog not listing the correct slave, but not everyone not showing up

Posted
1 hour ago, verydarknut said:

I would say it looks correct. I ditched Paradise Halls a while ago though, so not sure how that might interfere. For me the dialogue just shows up, when I have slaves nearby, no MCM changes or anything needed. 
Hmm, sometimes it seems like the script recognizing slaves for AYGAS picks up on slaves better when talking to them. But that might just be me going insane.
But also AYGAS is a slow script-heavy mod, even worse in script-heavy environments. 
Sorry about this esoteric answer, I never encountered your issue. Only the dialog not listing the correct slave, but not everyone not showing up

oh i didnt know you could run all this without pahe. only reason i had pahe was cuz i thought it was needed for DoM and the pahe addons like HSH, AYGAS. 
well damn if its not needed then ill uninstall it. gotta start a new playthrough cuz my game bugged and crashes whenever i try to load a save now anyway when it tries to load lydias 3ba body for some reason xd. 

Posted
47 minutes ago, just_dominic said:

oh i didnt know you could run all this without pahe. only reason i had pahe was cuz i thought it was needed for DoM and the pahe addons like HSH, AYGAS. 
well damn if its not needed then ill uninstall it. gotta start a new playthrough cuz my game bugged and crashes whenever i try to load a save now anyway when it tries to load lydias 3ba body for some reason xd. 

Yes, DOMs ecosystem doesn't need PAHE anymore. Most patches are either included in the FOMOD or, in the case of Enthralled, included on their mod page.
Starting a new game is a good idea to clean out PAHE, but depending on your Lydia issue a new game might not resolve that. If it is a missing mesh, it might always crash. But I don't know, there are so many potential causes for crashes, who knows. It should get mentioned in the crash log

Posted
26 minutes ago, verydarknut said:

Yes, DOMs ecosystem doesn't need PAHE anymore. Most patches are either included in the FOMOD or, in the case of Enthralled, included on their mod page.
Starting a new game is a good idea to clean out PAHE, but depending on your Lydia issue a new game might not resolve that. If it is a missing mesh, it might always crash. But I don't know, there are so many potential causes for crashes, who knows. It should get mentioned in the crash log

sweet then ill drop pahe.
was looking at the obody NG page cuz every crash seemed to be mentioning bodymeshes and obody. seems like its very common issue that isnt exactly obodys fault but an issue ussep has with obody on gog version? (i am running gog version) image.thumb.png.8dba18c0b3cd42951e7486af8aecec70.png

though annoyingly enough i dont see the solution aside from that vague cookie trail nebula commented... dunno why people dont give details on how they fixed stuff also unsure about straight up uninstalling ussep

Posted
2 hours ago, just_dominic said:

sweet then ill drop pahe.
was looking at the obody NG page cuz every crash seemed to be mentioning bodymeshes and obody. seems like its very common issue that isnt exactly obodys fault but an issue ussep has with obody on gog version? (i am running gog version) image.thumb.png.8dba18c0b3cd42951e7486af8aecec70.png

though annoyingly enough i dont see the solution aside from that vague cookie trail nebula commented... dunno why people dont give details on how they fixed stuff also unsure about straight up uninstalling ussep

Unless there are GOG specific bugs I'd recommend you check the OBody NG Installation Guide and OBody NG Troubleshooting Guide and apply the SKEE.ini changes outllined in both articles.
Also on the same forum you posted leading to Race Menu GOG Bug Fix 1.6.1179, maybe it applies to you
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Posted (edited)

Edit: found the NG mod and its patch. closed.

 

I see DOM is overwriting Dripping when aroused.

The dripping animation doesn't seem to be playing anymore.

Is there a fix for that?

 

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Edited by Fraying9981
Posted

I updated the file from 7.5 to 7.9 and the mcm has disappeared along with the text boxes containing information like personality and the sort. Tried doing it on a new save and the setstage_ski command in the faq section but havent had any luck with getting it to appear, any help would be appreciated.

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