TrollAutokill Posted February 6, 2025 Author Posted February 6, 2025 (edited) 8 hours ago, RustyOldSword said: Hello, guys! Could someone please explain if there is any lore-friendly way to abduct NPCs in Skyrim with this mod? Maybe someone has some extensions for this mod that add such a feature? Everything is great, but it would be so cool if this were more deeply integrated into the gameplay. I mean, for example, you have to buy some kind of blunt weapon to knock someone out from stealth, but even before that, you have to find and read a book to acquire an abduction perk from it, immersively learning the principles behind it at the same time. I'm a game designer in real life, so I just want to leave this suggestion here for free. I could make this mod myself, but unfortunately, I haven't had much free time over the past year. If you follow Kimli's quest you get an introduction to enslaving and slaver's spells and potions. Â If you use DOM Stories you will get a bludgeon from Lucan as a reward. This bludgeon can be used to knockout actors before enslaving them. Edited February 6, 2025 by TrollAutokill
DonQuiWho Posted February 6, 2025 Posted February 6, 2025 9 hours ago, crazymango54 said: I have a pretty good way to do it, but it does involve 3 other mods and some requirements besides.  You can use Knockout & Surrender to make it possible to knock out NPCs, then use Defeat, then use the Defeat-Knockout & Surrender patch. K&S knockout state is recognized by Defeat via the patch, and Defeat's knockout state is recognized by DoM, allowing you to basically knockout an NPC via K&S, then abduct them directly into DoM. In order to do this, you need to click on Defeat's knocked out option on an NPC, then cancel and you will be allowed to abduct them through DoM. All of these steps are only necessary if you knocked someone out without hurting them very much.  The way I have customized K&S, I usually knock out NPCs by getting them below a health threshold (usually 10%), if you set your own threshold to be lower than the DoM abduct threshold, you can just activate the knocked out and wounded NPC and easily abduct directly into DoM. I usually play with surrender turned off, but the same logic applies to that as well: if they are below the abduct health threshold when they surrender, you can just abduct them into DoM.  Lastly, the surrender state is recognized by PAHE due to the Defeat author adding that functionality in. This means that you can enslave an NPC through dialogue after they surrender, but they only go into PAHE rather than DoM, though you could transfer them to DoM later if you wanted. An easy patch, which is far as I know does not exist yet, would be to update that dialogue to call the DoM abduct function rather than the PAHE enslave function. Perhaps someone will decide to make that one day.  That's the setup I use, hopefully you find something useful.  That's a pretty good explanation  Another thing he could try would be to get create longer lasting paralysis poison (Canis Root + Imp Stool are the easiest ingredients to find).  You can increase its efficacy/most importantly duration using some of the more basic game variation mods from Nexus, ie ones which adjust foods & ingredient effects, item weight tweaks etc. There is scope in PAHE to enslave paralysed enemies and, long long ago, nearly 10 years or so ago!, I asked Goubo to add that into the Defeat>PAHE capabilities, and he was kind enough to oblige. It still works today, at least if you are using Bane Master's Defeat version  And if you have longer lasting paralysis added to arrows, you can down a few enemies and, if your followers haven't killed them first, then hack them after the battle is over to bring their health down to the limit at which you have set to allow the enslavement option to appear when activating them  DQW 1
cap_wacky Posted February 6, 2025 Posted February 6, 2025 Another Suggestion/Request: Would it be possible to get a short animation and facial expression set for when a slave gets an orgasm from a non-sexual event like a kink? e.g. a slave has a kink of being threatened, praised, etc. Player does so via chat or wheel and they grab their crotch, show an orgasm like expression, etc for a few seconds and then go back to their previous state.  Other advanced outgrowths / related possibilities: -Restrained slaves shake their heads along with that kind of expression. -Trigger a sexlab orgasm event so mods that trigger off of such things like "Dripping When Aroused" would play their squirting effect, etc.
cap_wacky Posted February 6, 2025 Posted February 6, 2025 Another Kink Related Request: Have slaves react to praise associated with their kink right after they did an act related to their kink.  E.g. If a slave has a kink for giving a blowjob; Praising them for "Sucking like a Queen" could trigger a lesser kink reaction, possible orgasm, etc even if they don't have the kink for being called a Good Girl. This would likely have to be limited to kinks that have a longer physical action like a sexlab animation, bondage/restraints, punishing slaves, etc and exclude kinks like talking dirty, praise, threaten and so on... 1
TrollAutokill Posted February 6, 2025 Author Posted February 6, 2025 1 hour ago, cap_wacky said: Another Suggestion/Request: Would it be possible to get a short animation and facial expression set for when a slave gets an orgasm from a non-sexual event like a kink? e.g. a slave has a kink of being threatened, praised, etc. Player does so via chat or wheel and they grab their crotch, show an orgasm like expression, etc for a few seconds and then go back to their previous state.  Other advanced outgrowths / related possibilities: -Restrained slaves shake their heads along with that kind of expression. -Trigger a sexlab orgasm event so mods that trigger off of such things like "Dripping When Aroused" would play their squirting effect, etc. Upcoming version updates SLA arousal faction. So you should be able to get physical reactions to arousal and orgasm from DWA and SLA.  The orgasms expressions, I would need to check how it's done in Sexlab. 1
cap_wacky Posted February 7, 2025 Posted February 7, 2025 Oh also an interesting bug of note. Looks like dead people can get upset you've enslaved their relatives  Case in point: In the Morthal Laid to Rest quest, I killed Hroggar and enslaved Alva. Then when I brought Alva back to their house Hroggar's corpse would repeatedly ask me why I was treating her like a slave, while being a corpse on the floor I might add... When I exited out of the dialog he revered to being to a corpse. Maybe a check to see if people are dead before initiating that dialogue set would be a good thing? 2
TrollAutokill Posted February 7, 2025 Author Posted February 7, 2025 5 hours ago, cap_wacky said: Oh also an interesting bug of note. Looks like dead people can get upset you've enslaved their relatives  Case in point: In the Morthal Laid to Rest quest, I killed Hroggar and enslaved Alva. Then when I brought Alva back to their house Hroggar's corpse would repeatedly ask me why I was treating her like a slave, while being a corpse on the floor I might add... When I exited out of the dialog he revered to being to a corpse. Maybe a check to see if people are dead before initiating that dialogue set would be a good thing? Thanks, I put in a check on ghost, dead, unconscious and paralysed.
DocClox Posted February 7, 2025 Posted February 7, 2025 (edited) A couple of questions about kinks: Â What is "Forced to stand?" I tried standing sex, and I tried a couple of standing poses, neither triggered. Do I get them to nothing and then wait? What needs to happen to trigger "taking advantage of slaves?" I tried having the slave in question rape one of her sisters-in-chains, but that didn't do the trick. Not relevant, but here's a picture of me and the girls camping outside Shriekwind Bastion while I wait for Sanginare Vampiris to do it's work. Â Â Â [edit] Â I meant to say earlier - the kink selector seems to work nicely. A bit of a faff, admittedly, but it's something you'd use rarely and it lets you specify what you want with precision, so I think the trade off is about right. Nice work! Edited February 7, 2025 by DocClox
z187719628 Posted February 7, 2025 Posted February 7, 2025 Please forgive me for that foolish question before. After extensive testing, I discovered the real problem with my game. If the player character in a game save has Body Morph from other mods(FHU,SGO4,Hentai Pregnancy), a few seconds after loading this save,the game will freeze and CTD will occur. Â Crash Logger does not have crash logs.Papyrus shows that the game process freezes during DOM loading. When DOM is not loaded, Body Morph will not cause this issue.
TrollAutokill Posted February 7, 2025 Author Posted February 7, 2025 4 hours ago, DocClox said: A couple of questions about kinks: Â What is "Forced to stand?" I tried standing sex, and I tried a couple of standing poses, neither triggered. Do I get them to nothing and then wait? What needs to happen to trigger "taking advantage of slaves?" I tried having the slave in question rape one of her sisters-in-chains, but that didn't do the trick. Not relevant, but here's a picture of me and the girls camping outside Shriekwind Bastion while I wait for Sanginare Vampiris to do it's work. Â "Forced to stand" is forced to stand in attention to master, similar as kneeling, but standing. Â "Taking advantage of slaves" is for slavers and trainers only. Â Pictures are always welcome, you did a nice job there! Â
TrollAutokill Posted February 7, 2025 Author Posted February 7, 2025 (edited) 27 minutes ago, z187719628 said: Please forgive me for that foolish question before. After extensive testing, I discovered the real problem with my game. If the player character in a game save has Body Morph from other mods(FHU,SGO4,Hentai Pregnancy), a few seconds after loading this save,the game will freeze and CTD will occur. Â Crash Logger does not have crash logs.Papyrus shows that the game process freezes during DOM loading. When DOM is not loaded, Body Morph will not cause this issue. Â You'll need to provide a log with the "verbose debug" option ON in the MCM, so I can check when it is freezing. Â Edited February 7, 2025 by TrollAutokill
z187719628 Posted February 7, 2025 Posted February 7, 2025 (edited) 1 hour ago, TrollAutokill said: Â You'll need to provide a log with the "verbose debug" option ON in the MCM, so I can check when it is freezing. Â I enabled Verbose Logfiles in the Debug Menu, but Papyrus doesn't seem to provide any more information. English is not my first language,maybe I made a mistake. Still SkyrimVR. Thank you very much for your help. Papyrus.0.log Edited February 7, 2025 by z187719628
TrollAutokill Posted February 7, 2025 Author Posted February 7, 2025 Version 7.2.7 is out. Still mostly bug fixing. Â What's new in version 7.2.7: Kimli's quest can be started again, but it still needs to be fully checked. HSH and AYGAS interface are initialized at load game. Before it was only at start quest and could cause some problems. Added mood "charmed" for those in love actors with free spirit. Corrected a few mood chances going above 100% too often. Sexlab Arousal faction is now updated with DOM arousal value. Arousal is locked for all DOM actors. This should ensure Dripping When Aroused and SLA take care of DOM actors properly. Corrected family reaction if actor was re-enslaved after being freed in front of family. Freeing a respectful slave will have them giving a hug to the player. This can be turned off in MCM NPC tab. In love NPCs with submission >= 84 will not trigger alarm when enslaved. They will still trigger force greet by family members. Unconscious, paralyzed, dead and ghost actors won't react to capture and enslaved family members. Corrected Wigs being incorrectly flagged as not-special and added ArmorMaterialKSWigs keyword recognition. Corrected wrong check on family relationships when offering sex to NPCs. Corrected wrong check on CurrentFollowerFaction when adding slave to pool. Corrected a bug where it was not possible to free for 0 gold a family member of actors with loving relationship to player. JSON files: Race, gender, age and jobs bonuses are now saved in JSON file PersonalityTraits.json Relationship is now saved in JSON Trauma is now read from JSON files. Unit is number of days. It is added to number of days broken for enslaved actors. It is saved in factions. It is used in falling in love chance. Corrected gangbang virginity read from JSON. JSON reading can now be turned on/off per section in MCM/Personality. 2
TrollAutokill Posted February 7, 2025 Author Posted February 7, 2025 (edited) 51 minutes ago, z187719628 said: I enabled Verbose Logfiles in the Debug Menu, but Papyrus doesn't seem to provide any more information. English is not my first language,maybe I made a mistake. Still SkyrimVR. Thank you very much for your help. Papyrus.0.log 117.71 kB · 1 download  Your game seems to hang when DOM tries to initialize the widgets. There is an incompatibility with another widget mod: "iWant Widgets". You can turn off the widgets in the MCM "Notifications" tab, but for that you need to run the game without your other widget mods. Edited February 7, 2025 by TrollAutokill
z187719628 Posted February 7, 2025 Posted February 7, 2025 (edited) 1 hour ago, TrollAutokill said:  Your game seems to hang when DOM tries to initialize the widgets. There is an incompatibility with another widget mod: "iWant Widgets". You can turn off the widgets in the MCM "Notifications" tab, but for that you need to run the game without your other widget mods. I'm sure it's not an issue with "iWant Widgets", "IWant Widgets "is a requirement for SGO4,It is to test whether the Body Morph of SGO4 will cause freeze. Before this,I have tested FHU and hentai pregnancy, and they both cause reload save freeze after using their Body Morph. "iWant Widgets" was not used in these tests.  In the testing of FHU and hentai pregnancy, the Papyrus log is very similar to this one,when DOM starts loading, the game freeze.(If the player characters in save have Body Morph from these mods)  If there is no Body Morph on the player character, I will reload the save successfully,without any issues.  I hope my limited English ability can express my meaning clearly Edited February 7, 2025 by z187719628
VAHHXX Posted February 7, 2025 Posted February 7, 2025 This mod lacks a system for the mental and physical wear and tear of slaves. up to their complete loss. It would be interesting and add spice. What do you think about this? Â Many thanks to the author of the mod for his work. this is the best thing I've seen 1
TrollAutokill Posted February 7, 2025 Author Posted February 7, 2025 1 hour ago, VAHHXX said: This mod lacks a system for the mental and physical wear and tear of slaves. up to their complete loss. It would be interesting and add spice. What do you think about this? Â Many thanks to the author of the mod for his work. this is the best thing I've seen Elaborate... 3
Good Provider Posted February 7, 2025 Posted February 7, 2025 8 hours ago, TrollAutokill said: "Taking advantage of slaves" is for slavers and trainers only. Â Pictures are always welcome, you did a nice job there! Â Â Would be nice if the slaves also could be turned on by raping/punishing fellow slaves, with permission of course, Â
TrollAutokill Posted February 7, 2025 Author Posted February 7, 2025 31 minutes ago, Good Provider said: Â Would be nice if the slaves also could be turned on by raping/punishing fellow slaves, with permission of course, Â That's what happens if you turn a slave into a trainer. Both slavers and trainers can trigger their dominant kinks. 1
oxid132 Posted February 7, 2025 Posted February 7, 2025 On 2/6/2025 at 7:32 AM, TrollAutokill said: You're probably trying to get HSH to work with version 7, and that's not possible yet. The stable version is 5.5 and this one should work with HSH. Yea, I was trying to do that. Thanks mate and apologies for having the IQ of a gerbil.
sidfu1 Posted February 7, 2025 Posted February 7, 2025 16 minutes ago, oxid132 said: Yea, I was trying to do that. Thanks mate and apologies for having the IQ of a gerbil. the last somewhat working version for 7 and HSH was 7.1.10 but you cant get it now which is why always keep versions till not needed
sidfu1 Posted February 7, 2025 Posted February 7, 2025 8 hours ago, z187719628 said: I enabled Verbose Logfiles in the Debug Menu, but Papyrus doesn't seem to provide any more information. English is not my first language,maybe I made a mistake. Still SkyrimVR. Thank you very much for your help. Papyrus.0.log 117.71 kB · 2 downloads you need to take and get one of the crash logers and get that log. the pap log will not show why you crashed it will only show a few near items that where processed around a crash. it actually misses things that happens while it is crashing. Â
crazymango54 Posted February 8, 2025 Posted February 8, 2025 8 hours ago, TrollAutokill said: Freeing a respectful slave will have them giving a hug to the player. This can be turned off in MCM NPC tab. Is this only for releasing to family members or just whenever they leave DoM (AYGAS sales, dialogue release, etc.) Also, speaking of releasing, could you make it so slaves disappear after you release them through dialogue? Sometimes I will release one in the wild or a town or something and they just stand there permanently, it would be nice if they "moved on" so to speak.
z187719628 Posted February 8, 2025 Posted February 8, 2025 2 hours ago, sidfu1 said: you need to take and get one of the crash logers and get that log. the pap log will not show why you crashed it will only show a few near items that where processed around a crash. it actually misses things that happens while it is crashing.  I have crash loggers, but it seems unable to generate crash logs for this situation. But for other CTDs, it can generate logs. Do I need to download the PDB from the page? https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/59818?tab=description  Â
z187719628 Posted February 8, 2025 Posted February 8, 2025 My problem is more complex than I imagined,other VR users have encountered the same issue. Perhaps it's an issue with some VR Mod scripts. Don't worry about my problem anymore. Thank you all for your efforts.
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