hungvipbcsok Posted October 23, 2022 Posted October 23, 2022 1 hour ago, notwavman said: OK, here's a little something I've made while learning things: 1. Corrected Abadon Cursed Straitjacket from Armbinder to Straitjacket. 2. Expanded formlists to contain Boxbinders from the DD5.2 Beta and BondageHard to contain more rare restraints. 3. Changed look of the Abadon Chastity Bra and Belt to stainless steel, like High Security ones from DCL. 4. Main thing - changed magic effect and look of the trap darts (small poison ones, found in many places, for example Pinewatch on the way to the treasure room) to look like lurker spit and made script which applies Abadon hand restraints, most frequently used are weak ones, harder are more rare and finally top level are the rarest. High arousal increases chances of getting harder(and rarer) restraint. NPCs supported. Attaching zip archive with the modded version, please make sure to back-up UnforgivingDevices.esp before installing. Please try it out and tell me if you like the idea(s) implemented in this. Unfortunately I've still didn't figured out how to replace sound of trap darts with goo sounds and how to get rid of the poison effect... More learning! Unforgiving Traps.zip 51.26 kB · 1 download Wow! The DD trap idea was scraped and reconsider many times before but it never actually work out cuz technical problem. I really hope this one can be a must have in DD mod list
ihatemykite Posted October 25, 2022 Author Posted October 25, 2022 On 10/23/2022 at 8:26 AM, notwavman said: OK, here's a little something I've made while learning things: 1. Corrected Abadon Cursed Straitjacket from Armbinder to Straitjacket. 2. Expanded formlists to contain Boxbinders from the DD5.2 Beta and BondageHard to contain more rare restraints. 3. Changed look of the Abadon Chastity Bra and Belt to stainless steel, like High Security ones from DCL. 4. Main thing - changed magic effect and look of the trap darts (small poison ones, found in many places, for example Pinewatch on the way to the treasure room) to look like lurker spit and made script which applies Abadon hand restraints, most frequently used are weak ones, harder are more rare and finally top level are the rarest. High arousal increases chances of getting harder(and rarer) restraint. NPCs supported. Attaching zip archive with the modded version, please make sure to back-up UnforgivingDevices.esp before installing. Please try it out and tell me if you like the idea(s) implemented in this. Unfortunately I've still didn't figured out how to replace sound of trap darts with goo sounds and how to get rid of the poison effect... More learning! Unforgiving Traps.zip 51.26 kB · 14 downloads Great work, will test it soon. I like the general idea. I might only do some small edits to script, but otherwise I see no issue.
kurotatsu Posted October 25, 2022 Posted October 25, 2022 I've made stupid mistake, edited only inventory items and forgot to edit script items of Abadon Chastity Bra and Belt. Here's corrected esp UnforgivingDevices.esp
alster523 Posted October 30, 2022 Posted October 30, 2022 I jsut grabbed the mod and so far i enjoy it far more then the normal going into menu press struggle and hope that is normally there but i do have a slight problem. On se i downloaded the newst version on consoleutli, and i get a popup everytime i launch the game saying that it cant find it. Is this a know issue? Do i need a specific version number? using 2.0 with the cursed loot DD and bondage shop patches.
kurotatsu Posted October 30, 2022 Posted October 30, 2022 The most important information could be missing in your report - version of Skyrim you're running. Is it LE? SE? AE? I'm running ConsoleUtil 3 on Skyrim LE and have no problems, got it there https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/66257?tab=description
alster523 Posted October 30, 2022 Posted October 30, 2022 7 hours ago, notwavman said: The most important information could be missing in your report - version of Skyrim you're running. Is it LE? SE? AE? I'm running ConsoleUtil 3 on Skyrim LE and have no problems, got it there https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/66257?tab=description I am running patch 1.6.353.0 AE.
kurotatsu Posted October 30, 2022 Posted October 30, 2022 Indeed AE could be problematic, and indeed sometimes older versions do the trick, try it. Or try to downgrade to SE.
Banusx304 Posted October 30, 2022 Posted October 30, 2022 5 hours ago, alster523 said: I am running patch 1.6.353.0 AE. The newest ConsolUtilSSE Version is for AE 1.6.640. I use the Version 1.3.2 with AE 1.6.353 and it works.
alster523 Posted October 31, 2022 Posted October 31, 2022 (edited) Is heatrise and toys & love compatible through the xedit patch or is it too heavily integrated into itself? Edited October 31, 2022 by alster523
kurotatsu Posted November 1, 2022 Posted November 1, 2022 17 hours ago, alster523 said: Is heatrise and toys & love compatible through the xedit patch or is it too heavily integrated into itself? As far as I know - UD has way to patch only DD-compatible devices, no support for Toys&Love framework.
Uw102 Posted November 1, 2022 Posted November 1, 2022 I had a problem with UD, some of the devices stopped working as they should. The error is that I noticed that some rope items do not have the "strugle" function, but have the standard "unlock". What could be related to this error? (I use Skyrim SE) I thought this error was due to the fact that I use DD lore, but after deleting it and creating a new save, these objects still had no function. I'm not sure, but maybe some other items besides ropes might not have this feature either.
kurotatsu Posted November 1, 2022 Posted November 1, 2022 You should test out newly acquired items, not already locked on your character. Also make sure that your load order is set right.
Uw102 Posted November 2, 2022 Posted November 2, 2022 15 hours ago, notwavman said: You should test out newly acquired items, not already locked on your character. Also make sure that your load order is set right. What is the correct order? UD should be after DD or in another way?
kurotatsu Posted November 2, 2022 Posted November 2, 2022 1 hour ago, Uw102 said: What is the correct order? UD should be after DD or in another way? UD should be below DD and DCL, UD patches below UD.
Uw102 Posted November 2, 2022 Posted November 2, 2022 57 minutes ago, notwavman said: UD should be below DD and DCL, UD patches below UD. I have them in this order.
Uw102 Posted November 2, 2022 Posted November 2, 2022 17 hours ago, notwavman said: You should test out newly acquired items, not already locked on your character. Also make sure that your load order is set right. I tried some other items and most of the ones that didn't work were leg or hand cuffs and body harnesses (I checked things from the DD Expansion section).
kurotatsu Posted November 2, 2022 Posted November 2, 2022 Only one thing left to try is to start a new game and see if the problem persists.
slicksly Posted November 2, 2022 Posted November 2, 2022 A request - I cannot for the life of me see any way to affect the frequency of locks starting out jammed or not, although it does seem to increase with levels / difficulty. Can you add a toggle and probability slider for locks to start jammed? I find the jammed lock to be useful for my heavier characters who want to skill Blacksmithing anyhow, but having locks being jammed usually forces me to manually break them through failing lockpicking, which is kinda awkward.
Uw102 Posted November 2, 2022 Posted November 2, 2022 1 hour ago, notwavman said: Only one thing left to try is to start a new game and see if the problem persists. The problem remained but disappeared from 1 item.
kurotatsu Posted November 3, 2022 Posted November 3, 2022 14 hours ago, slicksly said: A request - I cannot for the life of me see any way to affect the frequency of locks starting out jammed or not, although it does seem to increase with levels / difficulty. Can you add a toggle and probability slider for locks to start jammed? I find the jammed lock to be useful for my heavier characters who want to skill Blacksmithing anyhow, but having locks being jammed usually forces me to manually break them through failing lockpicking, which is kinda awkward. Locks being jammed is defined by Cheap Locks modifier, which has percentage of randomly getting one of locks jammed. Higher percentage - higher chance each hour to get jammed lock. This modifier is added randomly to patched devices and I believe can be adjusted in the DD Patch section of UD's MCM. 2
kurotatsu Posted November 3, 2022 Posted November 3, 2022 Here's something more, I've changed function of random equip to use DD framework's leveled lists and added corsets and harnesses. No filter is added for those yet. Also it seems for now to see the these two categories you have to start new game. Naturally, if you decide to to give this a go, make sure to back up your original files before replacing. UD_RandomRestraintManager.pex UD_RandomRestraintManager.psc
Timens Posted November 4, 2022 Posted November 4, 2022 Hello. Your mod is very cool but I have an issue with: It breakes my OSTIM animations and so I can't have sex (normally or with ODefeat for exemple), the characters stays frozen, upright and naked. I am playing Skyrim SE with the AE version (1.6.353) but without paid content. I used the 2.0 version of this mod, DD 5.1.7 and the RRF, ForHim, DCL & LBS patchs. I use a lot of mods (the entire Immersive & Adult Collection, https://next.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/collections/xxsqm4), and few other using the collection and your mod have reported the same problem on the I&A Discord, without help. I am posting here hoping that you already know this problem and know how to fix it. Thanks for any help
BreadDain Posted November 4, 2022 Posted November 4, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, Timens said: Hello. Your mod is very cool but I have an issue with: It breakes my OSTIM animations and so I can't have sex (normally or with ODefeat for exemple), the characters stays frozen, upright and naked. I am playing Skyrim SE with the AE version (1.6.353) but without paid content. I used the 2.0 version of this mod, DD 5.1.7 and the RRF, ForHim, DCL & LBS patchs. I use a lot of mods (the entire Immersive & Adult Collection, https://next.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/collections/xxsqm4), and few other using the collection and your mod have reported the same problem on the I&A Discord, without help. I am posting here hoping that you already know this problem and know how to fix it. Thanks for any help Unforgiving Devices is not supposed to modify any of sex frameworks, neither SexLab nor OStim. When does the issue happen? Were you wearing any of devices? Do you have DAR patch option enabled in UD MCM? Does this issue happen without Unforgiving devices enabled/installed? Also please provide fresh FNIS log for better diagnostics. The only things that can possible happen is either there is a weird itneraction with hardcore disabler or your OStim animations are getting canceled during device events due to animation event conflicts, I can't see anything else hard blocking OStim from running. Quote the entire Immersive & Adult Collection, https://next.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/collections/xxsqm4 Impossible to view it without registration, can you specify what people are writing there, please? Edited November 4, 2022 by BreadDain
Timens Posted November 4, 2022 Posted November 4, 2022 Thanks for your quick response. 2 hours ago, BreadDain said: When does the issue happen? Were you wearing any of devices? Do you have DAR patch option enabled in UD MCM? Does this issue happen without Unforgiving devices enabled/installed? Also please provide fresh FNIS log for better diagnostics. It happens from the start of my game, even without any device. I don't know what is DAR, it's patch wasn't activate (but doesn't work either if it is). It happens only if UD is enaled, I have no problem if it's installed but disabled. The FNIS log is Spoiler FNIS Behavior V7.6 XXL 04/11/2022 17:38:45 Skyrim SE 64bit: 1.6.353.0 - C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Skyrim Special Edition\ (Steam) Skeleton(hkx) female: XPMS2HDT (126 bones) male: XPMS2HDT (126 bones) Patch: "GENDER Specific Animations" Patch: "SKELETON Arm Fix" Patch: * tktk1's "TK Dodge / Ultimate Combat" (CTD:0,3%) Reading 0Sex_0M2F_A V?.? ... ChAnims:196 CTD:2,2% pOpt:1,4% Reading 0Sex_0MF_D V?.? ... ChAnims:204 CTD:2,4% pOpt:1,6% Reading 0Sex_0MF_K V?.? ... ChAnims:288 CTD:3,3% pOpt:2,2% Reading 0Sex_0MF_M V?.? ... ChAnims:244 CTD:2,8% pOpt:1,9% Reading 0Sex_0MF_R V?.? ... ChAnims:104 CTD:1,2% pOpt:0,8% Reading 0Sex_0MF_S V?.? ... ChAnims:230 CTD:2,7% pOpt:1,8% Reading 0Sex_0MF_U V?.? ... ChAnims:344 CTD:4,0% pOpt:2,6% Reading 0Sex_B3P_A V?.? ... ChAnims:141 CTD:1,6% pOpt:1,1% Reading 0Sex_BB_A V?.? ... ChAnims:92 CTD:1,1% pOpt:0,7% Reading 0Sex_BGA_A V?.? ... ChAnims:274 CTD:3,2% pOpt:2,1% Reading 0Sex_BG_A V?.? ... ChAnims:194 CTD:2,2% pOpt:1,5% Reading 0Sex_BLF_A V?.? ... ChAnims:120 CTD:1,4% pOpt:0,9% Reading 0Sex_EMF_A V?.? ... ChAnims:56 CTD:0,7% pOpt:0,4% Reading 0Sex_NIB_A V?.? ... ChAnims:192 CTD:2,2% pOpt:1,5% Reading 0Sex_OpS_A V?.? ... ChAnims:530 CTD:6,1% pOpt:4,1% Reading Anubs Human V1.0 ... ChAnims:1221 CTD:7,1% pOpt:1,6% Reading DD V4.0.0 ... ChAnims:725(576) CTD:13,1% pOpt:1,0% Reading DD2 V4.0.0 ... ChAnims:374(374) CTD:10,7% pOpt:0,0% Reading DD3 V4.1.0 ... ChAnims:119(119) CTD:2,9% pOpt:0,0% Reading DDC V1.2 ... ChAnims:58 CTD:0,4% pOpt:0,2% Reading DDSL V4.0.0 ... ChAnims:410 CTD:2,8% pOpt:0,9% Reading Deviously Cursed Loot V9.0 ... ChAnims:23 CTD:0,2% pOpt:0,1% Reading FlowerGirls SE - BDSM V1.2.0 ... ChAnims:396 CTD:2,7% pOpt:0,9% NOTE: FlowerGirls SE - BDSM has at least one identical -AV defined in both 's' and '+' line Reading FlowerGirlsSE V3.0.2 ... ChAnims:1618 CTD:7,9% pOpt:0,0% Reading FNISBase V7.6 ... ChAnims:0 CTD:0,0% pOpt:0,0% Reading FunnyBizAmp V8.0 ... ChAnims:45 CTD:0,3% pOpt:0,1% Reading FunnyBizBeastly V1.0 ... ChAnims:90 CTD:0,6% pOpt:0,1% Reading FunnyBizBound V12.0 ... ChAnims:170 CTD:1,1% pOpt:0,3% Reading FunnyBizFun V12.0 ... ChAnims:252 CTD:1,5% pOpt:0,4% Reading FunnyBizGroup V8.0 ... ChAnims:276 CTD:1,7% pOpt:0,4% Reading FunnyBizLover V7.0 ... ChAnims:30 CTD:0,2% pOpt:0,0% Reading FunnyBizMC V1.0 ... ChAnims:8 CTD:0,1% pOpt:0,0% Reading FunnyBizMolag V1.0 ... ChAnims:277 CTD:1,7% pOpt:0,4% Reading FunnyBizNecro V10.0 ... ChAnims:328 CTD:2,1% pOpt:0,5% Reading FunnyBizRape V11.0 ... ChAnims:200 CTD:1,2% pOpt:0,3% Reading FunnyBizUn V12.0 ... ChAnims:362 CTD:2,2% pOpt:0,6% Reading ImmersiveAnimatedLooting V?.? ... ChAnims:13 CTD:0,1% pOpt:0,0% Reading ODefeat V5 ... ChAnims:11 CTD:0,1% pOpt:0,0% Reading SexLab V1.64 ... ChAnims:882 CTD:5,6% pOpt:1,5% Reading SexLabAP V1.64 ... ChAnims:142 CTD:0,9% pOpt:0,2% Reading SexLabCreature V1.64 ... ChAnims:177 CTD:1,2% pOpt:0,3% Reading SL_Survival V4.0.0 ... ChAnims:19 CTD:0,2% pOpt:0,1% Reading XPMSE V7.2 ... ChAnims:164(164) CTD:2,2% pOpt:0,0% Reading ZaZAnimationPack V7.00 ... ChAnims:829 CTD:3,6% pOpt:0,0% Reading _ESG_0ER_F V?.? ... ChAnims:16 CTD:0,2% pOpt:0,1% Reading _ESG_0ER_M V?.? ... ChAnims:7 CTD:0,1% pOpt:0,1% All Anim Lists scanned. Generating Behavior Files... 8 GENDER modifications for Animations\male 9 GENDER modifications for Animations\female Alternate Animation mods: 4 sets: 41 total groups: 194 added file slots: 1499 alternate files: 1233 Creature Pack not installed 12451 animations for 46 mods successfully included (character) ChAnims: 12451(1233) CTD:109,4% pOpt:34,7% max: 11378 LC: 28628 (max. 26162) >>Warning: Too many custom animations. Your Skyrim is likely to crash (CTD, crash to desktop)<< You can increase your animation number DRASTICALLY with these tools: Animation Limit Crash Fix (Skyrim SE and LE), SSE Engine Fixes (Skyrim SE only) Since FNIS cannot know if such mod is installed, it will still warn you at the original limit. But when such tool is used, load calculation can be switched off (FNIS.ini: "LoadCTDCalculation=0") 1 Warning(s). (I specify that I've got SSE Engine Fixes as asked in this log, and don't experimenting CTD) 2 hours ago, BreadDain said: Can you specify what people are writing there, please? Not sure what you want to, the other report ? Spoiler Quote I have a few interesting issues. I have the base I&A, most of the armor collection (although I have not actually seen any of them in game), and the SL stuff up to the unforgiving devices from the install guides here. I think I have a version of Osex from before the creator explicitly disabled Ostim from it. 1) Unless I have cleared the threads (and sometimes rebuilt the animation library) everyone just sort of stands around awkwardly after I lose a fight or initiate solicitation (I have only tried it for keys). Quote Anyone having issues with ostim/osex when downloading unforgiving devices? Every time I try to boot it up, my character in a ostim scene just freeze up and cant continue further Quote Hey guys I did some testing and it seems that "Unforgiving Devices" mod from ?│loverslab-advanced breaks the ostim. Unforgiving Devices makes it unable to start/finish ostim/osa/osex animation without a hard command from MCM These messages date from July and August, I couldn't discuss with the authors 1
kurotatsu Posted November 6, 2022 Posted November 6, 2022 Woah, it was quite an adventure... But finally I think I ironed all the bugs, wrote nice check function, so there should be no errors on attempt to lock devices anymore! Filter works now, although coding bits are changed, check RandomRestraintManager script for exact values if you use it. Whole DD framework library now used via leveled lists as Random Manifest. New game required, unless someone knows sure way to enforce OnInit() event, which I failed to do, quest restart won't work... Naturally, back up your files before installing this. UD_modded.zip 3
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