Npcs mad at Player

[Heroine HoneyCrotch]

This is the funniest stuff. I have used/played with dialogue that scripts in a change with relationship with player,setting it -1.  Lately I have been playing with a file where female pc can offer pussy or blowjob for coin. Sometimes npc takes either,or for free, and the relationship rank changes to -1 so when female pc goes back up to npc to plead for some coin for services they use vanilla voiced dialogue that is rude, so funny. I really wish I had more incline to play with voice synthesizer mod on SE. It would be so fun to have new rude comments. Right now,most users,dont encounter many negative npcs that are not trying to kill you. It's a shame too,negative npcs are funny. 

 

 

[Gukahn]

2 hours ago, Heroine HoneyCrotch said:

 

Only a matter of time until someone who is REALLY bored and have Time, makes skyrim abridged.. xD

 

[Kendo 2]

2 hours ago, Heroine HoneyCrotch said:

Right now,most users,dont encounter many negative npcs that are not trying to kill you. It's a shame too,negative npcs are funny. 

What Skyrim are you playing?  EVERY npc in the game treats the player like a he/she is a dumbass.  I got so sick of it I made an esp to disable all the dev Millennial snark.  It's fucking annoying.

[Grey Cloud]

31 minutes ago, Kendo 2 said:

I got so sick of it I made an esp to disable all the dev Millennial snark. 

Got to agree with you there. I seldom play with audio on and have the general subtitles toggled off.

[Heroine HoneyCrotch]

9 hours ago, Kendo 2 said:

What Skyrim are you playing?

Same Skyrim your playing... "My" Skyrim.

 

What I am referring to is when PC talks to an npc that has a -1 relationship rank.  You hit action key to initiate conversation and before dialogue options come up the npc is rude.  

 

My pc gets robbed and raped. as soon as she tries to talk to Harrald afterwards he is(vanilla voiced)rude. 

 

 

 

 



 



 



 



 



 



 



 

 

[SacredDatura]

Totally agree. I'm into all that degradation, and I play a lot with Devious Followers, but the process that turns an NPC into a follower unfortunately also makes their relationship rank high enough that they start getting nice and friendly.

 

Made Nazeem a follower once thinking that it'd be an abusive kind of experience where he's constantly sneering at you but no. He becomes perfectly polite. Likewise I edited Grushnag (an orc added by Cutting Room Floor that follows one of the Khajiit caravans) to have the "Disgusted" mood, which works really well - he goes "what do you want? >:[" when you speak to him... until you recruit him.

 

I'm wondering how much hassle it would be to have NPCs permanently use their hostile greeting lines. Is it a matter of switching around a value or two in xEdit, or is it a bigger undertaking that involves swapping out all the voice files?

[Gukahn]

15 minutes ago, Buridan said:

 

 

Made Nazeem a follower once thinking that it'd be an abusive kind of experience where he's constantly sneering at you but no. He becomes perfectly polite.

 

 

A polite Nazeem is like an abomination of god? Never kill that guy because even if he is a part of my shitlist, whiterun without him is not whiterun xD

 

 

16 minutes ago, Buridan said:

I'm wondering how much hassle it would be to have NPCs permanently use their hostile greeting lines. Is it a matter of switching around a value or two in xEdit, or is it a bigger undertaking that involves swapping out all the voice files?

Mh, wouldn't it be a lot easier to permanently lock their disposition towards you? I don't know shit about modding but there is surely a way to do something like that. Again i don't know anything about the CK except how to open it..don't even have it installed right now.

[SacredDatura]

On 3/4/2021 at 12:07 AM, Gukahn said:

Mh, wouldn't it be a lot easier to permanently lock their disposition towards you? I don't know shit about modding but there is surely a way to do something like that. Again i don't know anything about the CK except how to open it..don't even have it installed right now.

 

I have no idea either. I know how to do rudimentary patching and edits in xEdit, and that's it.

 

The issue is that the process of making an NPC your follower (eg. through NFF) also improves their disposition to +3 (Ally). I'm not sure if disposition +3 is actually required for them to function properly as followers though.

[Tlam99]

Can't one lock relationship in SLEN if I remember right ?

 

[Gukahn]

45 minutes ago, T-lam said:

Can't one lock relationship in SLEN if I remember right ?

 

As i understand it, it only works for the Increase you can get with SLEN´s Dialogue, not the vanilla increase you get with doing Quests or making one a Follower what Buridan did with NFF. And not everyone uses SLEN or wants to use it, so it wouldn't be a possibility for everyone wanting this kind of Deposition block

 

I can be wrong tho, never locked the Rank in SLEN for anyone and every npc i turned into a follower was already an ally or would have became one shortly after without me noticing.

[Tlam99]

Block the relationship globally might break some quest, I guess.

But doing it for a couple of selected npc wouldn't be a big deal.

Or this ?

 

 

 

[Guffel]

6 hours ago, T-lam said:

Block the relationship globally might break some quest, I guess.

But doing it for a couple of selected npc wouldn't be a big deal.

Or this ?

 

 

 

 

You can use RDS as a workaround. When you're mean to NPC they get a negative affection value and RDS lowers their relationship rank accordingly. You can use it you to make NPC hate you in an immersive way. But you could also you the debug menu to just edit the NPCs affection directly.

[Mr. Otaku]

I think Sexlab Approach Redux has a function in it where depending on how you act towards people they'll really hate you for the rest of the game, though i can tell that's not exactly what you guys are looking for.

[Prophetic Spirit]

Sexlab Attraction have a default setting enabled which relationships with the player is randomly generated each time the npc appears first time.

Probably that's the problem.

[Kendo 2]

There is a vanilla game bug to where if you ever had a follower with a high Aggression (the Stray Dog, Meeko, any hireling, etc.) certain NPCs will become hostile to you.  It doesn't matter if the Aggressive follower is still with you or not.  The only way to fix this is to get away from the hostile NPCs, sleep for 24 hrs, make a new save and restart the game.

 

I had all of Riverwood attacking me as well as Uthgerd the Unbroken when I entered the Bannered Mare.  Running away, sleeping and saving was the only way to fix it.

[KoolHndLuke]

Toggle ai and then reset their relationship values in the console cheat. I play with this stuff alot with bandits and shit I want to turn to followers that won't cause a town to aggro on me. You can reset alot of things about them like faction, aggression, relationship to player, etc. To check, just type get relationshiprank or get faction, etc.

[woodsman30]

3 hours ago, Kendo 2 said:

follower with a high Aggression

Meet Bandit defender Marauder aka my body guard since forever 

Spoiler

Mean as a rattlesnake tougher that a two dollar steak... Seen a town attack her once she killed everyone... but to your point yea it happens sometimes.... never ends well. lol

[Grey Cloud]

1 hour ago, woodsman30 said:

tougher than a two dollar steak.

? Not heard that one before.

 

1 hour ago, woodsman30 said:

Mean as a rattlesnake

I thought junk yard dogs were the measuring stick for mean?

[woodsman30]

22 hours ago, Grey Cloud said:

Not heard that one before.

Common here those steaks can be found at the local choke and puke " restaurant " as far as the snakes if you ever come face to face with one in the wild trust me you would agree.

[Grey Cloud]

2 hours ago, woodsman30 said:

as far as the snakes if you ever come face to face with one in the wild trust me you would agree.

Man up, pal. ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_IAayleb5Ck

 

[Melissa_69]

On 2/28/2021 at 3:13 AM, Heroine HoneyCrotch said:

Same Skyrim your playing... "My" Skyrim.

 

What I am referring to is when PC talks to an npc that has a -1 relationship rank.  You hit action key to initiate conversation and before dialogue options come up the npc is rude.  

 

My pc gets robbed and raped. as soon as she tries to talk to Harrald afterwards he is(vanilla voiced)rude. 

 

 

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What mod is the screenshots from?

[Melissa_69]

On 2/27/2021 at 2:57 PM, Heroine HoneyCrotch said:

This is the funniest stuff. I have used/played with dialogue that scripts in a change with relationship with player,setting it -1.  Lately I have been playing with a file where female pc can offer pussy or blowjob for coin. Sometimes npc takes either,or for free, and the relationship rank changes to -1 so when female pc goes back up to npc to plead for some coin for services they use vanilla voiced dialogue that is rude, so funny. I really wish I had more incline to play with voice synthesizer mod on SE. It would be so fun to have new rude comments. Right now,most users,dont encounter many negative npcs that are not trying to kill you. It's a shame too,negative npcs are funny. 

 

 

What type of dialog mod you're using?