AAF Family Planning Enhanced Redux

[Ashmar50]

Klobbo  also have the same problem with 4.004 of no pregnacy with sex but debug works and have tryed all the fixes nothing worked i went back to 4.003 until next update. Cumflation also did not work i don't know if you had that problem also with 4.004 i really want to try the new stuff added i hope next update works i have also thought of changing my body since i don't use base cbbe just to see if that may be it.

[Invictusblade]

10 hours ago, Ashmar50 said:

Klobbo  also have the same problem with 4.004 of no pregnacy with sex but debug works and have tryed all the fixes nothing worked i went back to 4.003 until next update. Cumflation also did not work i don't know if you had that problem also with 4.004 i really want to try the new stuff added i hope next update works i have also thought of changing my body since i don't use base cbbe just to see if that may be it.

so I found out what the problem was,

I made a mistake with the ending of sex scenes

 

so at the moment,

if you are having Male to female sex then turn both Male to Male Sex Outcome and Female to Female Sex outcome to OFF.

 

I have fixed this issue in the upcoming update (I will try to release on Friday and then I am going on a break for a while because my house is getting new carpet)

[CherryNebula]

So I'm having a bit of an issue. Whenever my PC is pregnant, she goes into labor, like almost immediately, if I wait or sleep-even for  just an hour, the quest "The Beauty of Life" starts. I've uninstalled/reinstalled on a fresh game. I've tried it with humans, super mutants, and ghouls, and the end result is always skipping straight to labor. I rolled it back to the previous version, and I didn't have that problem anymore.

[Iskandar]

Hello, sorry to bother again about this, but I am still not having any luck with Male/Male pregnancy in the latest version of FPE. I use the Frogless Fertility Test Kit and I get the message that my player has the chance of impregnation that I set him at, but I use the debug menu to force pregnancy and I still get the "failed to impregnate" message. I also tried having sex with multiple NPCs but still no luck, even with 90% chance of impregnation. I figured since the changelog for the latest version makes mention of fixing same sex sex issues, it would work this time.

I know impregnation is working, as I've seen pregnant NPCs, but only females (even with MCM set to mostly gay). 

I'm convinced I might've done something wrong on my end, but I just wanted to get an opinion/advice/possible solutions. 

So far, I've tried:

• reinstalling WDF and FPE
• stopping/starting FPE
• resetting FPE's MCM menu
• starting a new game/deleting all old saves

If there's anything else you need from me please let me know and I'll provide it. 

[Argent Wolfe]

This is for folks using version 4.00, it may work with versions earlier or future but YMMV and I'm using Fusion Girl 1.86 since it's the latest version before ZBG was added as a requirement for FG morphing to work.

 

Okey dokey, so I found a "simple" fix for people like me who aren't having the body morphs showing on your character but it is working on Npcs. The real problem comes not from the mod but from Looksmenu, I'm sure that many of you are like me in that once you have that "perfect" face you save it to looksmenu as a preset and keep using it with minor tweaks here and there as you go. I've been using the same one for my female character since around 2016 and that's where the problem comes in, ever since looksmenu added in the advanced body sliders that information is saved right along with the facial information and gets very quickly outdated as body types get updated and more complicated (or you switch body types entirely). The problem get worse if, like me, you like to have a "customized" body for your Nora using the advanced sliders which looksmenu will very kindly save into the preset for you. Enter a mod that changes those sliders and it has no idea where to start because your Nora's body isn't sitting at the "0" marker that bodyslide set up so it gives up and nothing happens. The answer for this is really very easy (a little less easy for folks like me but easier than trying to recreate a face) and is easiest with a new game but can be done on existing games.

 

1: Start the game up.

2: Start a new game, load your preset face, (remember that it has preset body sliders loaded in too?) and exit character creation.

    2a: If you play with the same body type you set as default in bodyslide go to step 3.

    2b: If you use a customized body based on your default go to body>advanced in character creation and write down every slider you changed and what the slider is set to. (Don't   forget to write down the "-" or things will look funny when you're done. Trust me I did that)

3: Once out of character creation open MCM for FPER and find the "regenerate body morphs" option and set it to a hot key (I believe it's under debug 4).

4: Use the hot key you just set without any character in the crosshair. (If you use the default female body that's it, you're done, you've just force updated all the body sliders in your preset and the morphing functions have updated and corrected sliders to hook into.)

5: Save, exit, reload

 

If you use a customized body like me it's also reset your character to default instead of the bodybuilder/buxom/whatever you had so when you re-enter looksmenu you can readjust the sliders back to where you originally had them and continue to play as usual. (You can wait until just before you enter the elevator out of the vault to regen the morphs if it would bother you to see a standard body on your character. XD )

 

"I'm mid game" or "I don't activate mods until after I've left the Vault" version:

 

1: Make sure your character isn't in any stage of pregnancy/post partum/cumflation. You can check this in your perks tab as of 4.00.

2: Go to Sanctuary or re-enter Vault 111 (These are the safest places to use slm 14, other locations can be used just make sure to have a gun equipped but not drawn to break the eternal falling/stuck in third person staring at yourself issue which can happen.)

3: Use "slm 14" to enter looksmenu and follow steps 2-5 above. (Minus the starting a new game part)

 

I would suggest saving a new preset of your character at this point so that you don't have to repeat the process later if you don't plan on altering your mod load out.

I would also suggest that if you use the bodygen options that randomize npc bodies to have that disabled when you do this since it will randomize your PC's appearance as well. (I personally quit using that option completely since it confuses mods that use body morphing mechanics in my own experience.)

 

I am NOT a modder but I have been reading through ALL the posts in this and other forums where this kind of issue has come up trying to figure out where my own problem was coming from and how to fix it. The above bit of instructions is the result of about 2 months of researching, testing, and restarting games to find an answer and I thought I would share the (finally) happy results here to save others the headache I've had to deal with. Now I'm going to head off and restart yet another game (to actually play this time) and make sure that Lucky has a very bad day soon. Cheers!

[Dez65]

On 4/11/2022 at 4:10 PM, Dez65 said:

As additional data:  I played through to a pregnancy for the player character and she seemed to begin to show at about the 6 month, so it seems that the pregnancy bodymorphs are working, just not the Cumflation.  The pregnant swelling was not what I expected but I remember the MCM has a slider for that bodymorph I think so I'll fiddle with that once this issue is resolved.

Confirmed also that pregancy works on NPCs, or at least bodymorphs do - no births yet.  

 

Love this version, especially the way it interfaces with Random Overlay Framework!  Let me know if you come up with any insight for the Cumflation issue.

[Invictusblade]

2 hours ago, Iskandar said:

Hello, sorry to bother again about this, but I am still not having any luck with Male/Male pregnancy in the latest version of FPE. I use the Frogless Fertility Test Kit and I get the message that my player has the chance of impregnation that I set him at, but I use the debug menu to force pregnancy and I still get the "failed to impregnate" message. I also tried having sex with multiple NPCs but still no luck, even with 90% chance of impregnation. I figured since the changelog for the latest version makes mention of fixing same sex sex issues, it would work this time.

I know impregnation is working, as I've seen pregnant NPCs, but only females (even with MCM set to mostly gay). 

I'm convinced I might've done something wrong on my end, but I just wanted to get an opinion/advice/possible solutions. 

So far, I've tried:

• reinstalling WDF and FPE
• stopping/starting FPE
• resetting FPE's MCM menu
• starting a new game/deleting all old saves

If there's anything else you need from me please let me know and I'll provide it. 

so there is a couple of options for male to male impregnation

 

Male Pregnancy under Pregnancy Control Options

Male to Male Cum under Additional Options

Male to Male Sex Outcome under Additional Options

[Argent Wolfe]

Additional things I noticed as mentioned above is that the pregnancy morphs for first pregnancy are slow to kick in and relatively minor (unless you get the breeder virus) so I bumped the morph power up from 5 (default) to 6. Second pregnancy holy crap she was huge at month one (with the virus.. I'm blaming Lucky for me catching it) so probably best to wait to see how things go with the morphing before I mess with the power level again. Post Partum doesn't seem to prevent pregnancy if the virus is active, My PC got pregnant again a day after birth and Ack Ack got pregnant within an hour or two at most. I'll have to check my settings on that since I never got the infertile perk from post partum so it may be my fault. Cumflation morphs I'm not sure if they're working properly right now since my PC got pregnant quickly even with default chance settings and the time it takes to run home after a violate scenario and unlock the inevitable handcuffs so that I can check for morphing makes it difficult. I'll extend the time to make it easier to check since the rest of the cumflation effects (notices, overlays, etc) are working for me. "Reminds me of TDY in Hawaii.... " or something like that cracked me up.

 

Edit: The post partum not preventing pregnancy was my fault, I'd turned that off in a previous playthrough while trying to figure out pregnancy morph issues.

Edited April 13, 2022 by Argent Wolfe

[Invictusblade]

2 hours ago, Dez65 said:

Confirmed also that pregancy works on NPCs, or at least bodymorphs do - no births yet.  

 

Love this version, especially the way it interfaces with Random Overlay Framework!  Let me know if you come up with any insight for the Cumflation issue.

I found the issue, I made a mistake with an IF statement, I will post a "better" fix tomorrow

*I will be adding more sliders(with mcm option) to cumflation (it might work???)

 

actually I will post a script fix update for this Now (the _Aid for the newest version)

FPE_Cumflation.pex FPE_Cumflation_Aid.pex

Edited April 14, 2022 by Invictusblade

[Nivea]

Was wondering if there was a way to add the Cumflation body changes to males? I understand how to set up sliders and was wondering if that would be possible? Thanks!

[Invictusblade]

1 hour ago, Nivea said:

Was wondering if there was a way to add the Cumflation body changes to males? I understand how to set up sliders and was wondering if that would be possible? Thanks!

while I am working on it, I will have a look at it

[Invictusblade]

2 hours ago, Argent Wolfe said:

Additional things I noticed as mentioned above is that the pregnancy morphs for first pregnancy are slow to kick in and relatively minor (unless you get the breeder virus) so I bumped the morph power up from 5 (default) to 6. Second pregnancy holy crap she was huge at month one (with the virus.. I'm blaming Lucky for me catching it) so probably best to wait to see how things go with the morphing before I mess with the power level again. Post Partum doesn't seem to prevent pregnancy if the virus is active, My PC got pregnant again a day after birth and Ack Ack got pregnant within an hour or two at most. I'll have to check my settings on that since I never got the infertile perk from post partum so it may be my fault. Cumflation morphs I'm not sure if they're working properly right now since my PC got pregnant quickly even with default chance settings and the time it takes to run home after a violate scenario and unlock the inevitable handcuffs so that I can check for morphing makes it difficult. I'll extend the time to make it easier to check since the rest of the cumflation effects (notices, overlays, etc) are working for me. "Reminds me of TDY in Hawaii.... " or something like that cracked me up.

 

Edit: The post partum not preventing pregnancy was my fault, I'd turned that off in a previous playthrough while trying to figure out pregnancy morph issues.

so it is normally slow to start growing (which is intended)

 

I am reworking the breeder virus

btw I am basing it off descriptions from Boston Breeder (rapid pregnancies (weeks instead of months), extremely fertile, and the ability to be impregnated by creatures(not this one))

so it is overpowered by design. (but it is too overpowered)

 

*btw I am a fan of the Boston Breeder mod, so that is why I added it.

 

about cumflation, try the files above

Edited April 14, 2022 by Invictusblade

[Invictusblade]

7 hours ago, CherryNebula said:

So I'm having a bit of an issue. Whenever my PC is pregnant, she goes into labor, like almost immediately, if I wait or sleep-even for  just an hour, the quest "The Beauty of Life" starts. I've uninstalled/reinstalled on a fresh game. I've tried it with humans, super mutants, and ghouls, and the end result is always skipping straight to labor. I rolled it back to the previous version, and I didn't have that problem anymore.

I will have a look, maybe I messed something up (or an option went nuts)

 

5 hours ago, Iskandar said:

Hello, sorry to bother again about this, but I am still not having any luck with Male/Male pregnancy in the latest version of FPE. I use the Frogless Fertility Test Kit and I get the message that my player has the chance of impregnation that I set him at, but I use the debug menu to force pregnancy and I still get the "failed to impregnate" message. I also tried having sex with multiple NPCs but still no luck, even with 90% chance of impregnation. I figured since the changelog for the latest version makes mention of fixing same sex sex issues, it would work this time.

I know impregnation is working, as I've seen pregnant NPCs, but only females (even with MCM set to mostly gay). 

I'm convinced I might've done something wrong on my end, but I just wanted to get an opinion/advice/possible solutions. 

So far, I've tried:

• reinstalling WDF and FPE
• stopping/starting FPE
• resetting FPE's MCM menu
• starting a new game/deleting all old saves

If there's anything else you need from me please let me know and I'll provide it. 

I will have another look at Male to Male pregnancy

 

 

3 hours ago, Argent Wolfe said:

This is for folks using version 4.00, it may work with versions earlier or future but YMMV and I'm using Fusion Girl 1.86 since it's the latest version before ZBG was added as a requirement for FG morphing to work.

 

Okey dokey, so I found a "simple" fix for people like me who aren't having the body morphs showing on your character but it is working on Npcs. The real problem comes not from the mod but from Looksmenu, I'm sure that many of you are like me in that once you have that "perfect" face you save it to looksmenu as a preset and keep using it with minor tweaks here and there as you go. I've been using the same one for my female character since around 2016 and that's where the problem comes in, ever since looksmenu added in the advanced body sliders that information is saved right along with the facial information and gets very quickly outdated as body types get updated and more complicated (or you switch body types entirely). The problem get worse if, like me, you like to have a "customized" body for your Nora using the advanced sliders which looksmenu will very kindly save into the preset for you. Enter a mod that changes those sliders and it has no idea where to start because your Nora's body isn't sitting at the "0" marker that bodyslide set up so it gives up and nothing happens. The answer for this is really very easy (a little less easy for folks like me but easier than trying to recreate a face) and is easiest with a new game but can be done on existing games.

 

1: Start the game up.

2: Start a new game, load your preset face, (remember that it has preset body sliders loaded in too?) and exit character creation.

    2a: If you play with the same body type you set as default in bodyslide go to step 3.

    2b: If you use a customized body based on your default go to body>advanced in character creation and write down every slider you changed and what the slider is set to. (Don't   forget to write down the "-" or things will look funny when you're done. Trust me I did that)

3: Once out of character creation open MCM for FPER and find the "regenerate body morphs" option and set it to a hot key (I believe it's under debug 4).

4: Use the hot key you just set without any character in the crosshair. (If you use the default female body that's it, you're done, you've just force updated all the body sliders in your preset and the morphing functions have updated and corrected sliders to hook into.)

5: Save, exit, reload

 

If you use a customized body like me it's also reset your character to default instead of the bodybuilder/buxom/whatever you had so when you re-enter looksmenu you can readjust the sliders back to where you originally had them and continue to play as usual. (You can wait until just before you enter the elevator out of the vault to regen the morphs if it would bother you to see a standard body on your character. XD )

 

"I'm mid game" or "I don't activate mods until after I've left the Vault" version:

 

1: Make sure your character isn't in any stage of pregnancy/post partum/cumflation. You can check this in your perks tab as of 4.00.

2: Go to Sanctuary or re-enter Vault 111 (These are the safest places to use slm 14, other locations can be used just make sure to have a gun equipped but not drawn to break the eternal falling/stuck in third person staring at yourself issue which can happen.)

3: Use "slm 14" to enter looksmenu and follow steps 2-5 above. (Minus the starting a new game part)

 

I would suggest saving a new preset of your character at this point so that you don't have to repeat the process later if you don't plan on altering your mod load out.

I would also suggest that if you use the bodygen options that randomize npc bodies to have that disabled when you do this since it will randomize your PC's appearance as well. (I personally quit using that option completely since it confuses mods that use body morphing mechanics in my own experience.)

 

I am NOT a modder but I have been reading through ALL the posts in this and other forums where this kind of issue has come up trying to figure out where my own problem was coming from and how to fix it. The above bit of instructions is the result of about 2 months of researching, testing, and restarting games to find an answer and I thought I would share the (finally) happy results here to save others the headache I've had to deal with. Now I'm going to head off and restart yet another game (to actually play this time) and make sure that Lucky has a very bad day soon. Cheers!

thanks for this,

one of the problem is that there is too many moving pieces and some of them might mess each other up.

 

one thing I try to do is to keep the bodymorph keywords separated

Default = None

Pregnancy = FPFP_Keyword

Cumflation = FPFP_Cum_Keyword

Milking = kw_Morph_Milk (But I really should rework this one)

 

so hopefully they won't interfere with each other (but people do have issues with crashing morphs)

 

[Nivea]

53 minutes ago, Invictusblade said:

while I am working on it, I will have a look at it

 

Thank you so much, your very kind to consider it.

[Iskandar]

4 hours ago, Invictusblade said:

so there is a couple of options for male to male impregnation

 

Male Pregnancy under Pregnancy Control Options

Male to Male Cum under Additional Options

Male to Male Sex Outcome under Additional Options

 

I have all those set to "On" in the MCM.

 

1 hour ago, Invictusblade said:

I will have another look at Male to Male pregnancy

 

Thanks! It is much appreciated. In the meantime I will be testing things on my end to see if maybe I'm doing something wrong that's making it not work.

[Invictusblade]

5 hours ago, Iskandar said:

 

I have all those set to "On" in the MCM.

 

 

5 hours ago, Iskandar said:

Thanks! It is much appreciated. In the meantime I will be testing things on my end to see if maybe I'm doing something wrong that's making it not work.

 

I tested my version and it doesn't work so it is something I did

 

I have backtracked on some scripts (back to Ego's version) and I will see if that will work.

[Dez65]

11 hours ago, Invictusblade said:

actually I will post a script fix update for this Now (the _Aid for the newest version)

Thanks for posting these!  I overwrote the existing scripts and set Cumflation to 100% chance and 2 power but I'm still not getting any results.  

 

Is there anything else I need to do to implement the change?

 

So appreciate your hard work on this.  Enjoy your time off and your new carpet!

[Invictusblade]

1 hour ago, Dez65 said:

Thanks for posting these!  I overwrote the existing scripts and set Cumflation to 100% chance and 2 power but I'm still not getting any results.  

 

Is there anything else I need to do to implement the change?

 

So appreciate your hard work on this.  Enjoy your time off and your new carpet!

in tomorrows version, I have added three options for CBBE and Fusion girl (under different sliders)

I have tested them and they work for me

[Adapt1973]

Played yesterday for a few hours with the updated FPER , WLDF with offspring, SA, Harassment, Hardship, every animation pack from the manual 89 mods. Mostly crafting and AAF related.

Got super prego, There was no cumflation for the duration.

Pregnancy seemed pretty normal, her belly grew little by little to full term.

She gave birth to a living baby white girl, But her belly stayed fully morphed.

I figure it might go down in a couple days, check it out and see.

Slept till morning, when she woke up walked by the settlement Doctor, and then gave birth to a second, A black baby boy.

Double prego 2 different fathers.

 

This morning, I woke with the idea to clone this profile, then install FPER 3.8.

Ran that with all the same mods, Every part of it worked.

[vaultbait]

18 hours ago, Argent Wolfe said:

The real problem comes not from the mod but from Looksmenu, I'm sure that many of you are like me in that once you have that "perfect" face you save it to looksmenu as a preset and keep using it with minor tweaks here and there as you go. I've been using the same one for my female character since around 2016 and that's where the problem comes in, ever since looksmenu added in the advanced body sliders that information is saved right along with the facial information and gets very quickly outdated as body types get updated and more complicated (or you switch body types entirely). The problem get worse if, like me, you like to have a "customized" body for your Nora using the advanced sliders which looksmenu will very kindly save into the preset for you.

 

Be aware that LM presets are just simple JSON files you can edit with Notepad or any other text editor. If you want, you can simply delete the BodyMorphs section and then the next time you apply it the sliders won't get changed.

[Iskandar]

12 hours ago, Invictusblade said:

I tested my version and it doesn't work so it is something I did

 

I have backtracked on some scripts (back to Ego's version) and I will see if that will work.

 

Great to know! I'll be looking forward to any updates.

[Invictusblade]

10 hours ago, Adapt1973 said:

Played yesterday for a few hours with the updated FPER , WLDF with offspring, SA, Harassment, Hardship, every animation pack from the manual 89 mods. Mostly crafting and AAF related.

Got super prego, There was no cumflation for the duration.

Pregnancy seemed pretty normal, her belly grew little by little to full term.

She gave birth to a living baby white girl, But her belly stayed fully morphed.

I figure it might go down in a couple days, check it out and see.

Slept till morning, when she woke up walked by the settlement Doctor, and then gave birth to a second, A black baby boy.

Double prego 2 different fathers.

 

This morning, I woke with the idea to clone this profile, then install FPER 3.8.

Ran that with all the same mods, Every part of it worked.

that is weird, I will have a look

 

so question

how did she give birth both times?

by herself?

by doctor?

Edited April 15, 2022 by Invictusblade

[Invictusblade]

7 hours ago, Iskandar said:

 

Great to know! I'll be looking forward to any updates.

so I have fixed it (I think) *well it works for me now

but one of the changes I had to make was a slight change to MCM because I noticed an option conflict

 

"Male to Male Sex Outcome"

will conflict with

"Only Male Player Pregnancy"

 

so I added them together in the same MCM page with a note about choosing only one.

[Invictusblade]

I will post the update tomorrow after some more testing.

 

yep, a bit more work is required

 

Male to Male = works

Female to Female = works

Male to Female = Doesn't work

*that is fixed now

 

but while working on that, I realise that I needed to recalibrate the cumflation morphs (I added 4 new morphs to it)

*fix-ish now

 

but I am going to need some help with tweaking the cumflation morphs in the near future

Edited April 15, 2022 by Invictusblade

[Iskandar]

12 hours ago, Invictusblade said:

so I have fixed it (I think) *well it works for me now

but one of the changes I had to make was a slight change to MCM because I noticed an option conflict

 

"Male to Male Sex Outcome"

will conflict with

"Only Male Player Pregnancy"

 

so I added them together in the same MCM page with a note about choosing only one.

 

That's good to know!

 

4 hours ago, Invictusblade said:

I will post the update tomorrow after some more testing.

 

Great, thanks for helping with this! I'm looking forward to that update and testing it! I really appreciate it.