TAWOBAE - TAWOBA Extended

[monty359]

8 minutes ago, Hatoc123 said:

Hi Monty

Thanks for the polite reply. glad to hear you are having fun doing your own stuff(that stuff is always great) as for distribution lists being a pain In the past I've tried to use automated level list additions but while it works its kinda glitchy giving out outfits its not meant to etc may just be me being bad with the mod(probley is) I could proberly get some kinks worked out if I can change it so your mod only gives out the male armour and then I figure out something else for the female stuff. Any ideas on how I could tweak your mod so it would only give the male parts out since I doubt my usual techniqe of just deleting some texture files is going to work here since you have a whole esp manging it all.

 

Thanks for listening to me ramble as for whether I could do it myself I'm afraid at the moment at least I have no were near that level of modding knowedge yet maybe in the future I'll have put some time aside to learn modding properly.

I see two possibilities, how you could get BNUNP Bodyslides for TAWOBAE.

 

first is the most obvious one. Create from CBBE 3BA. It is the usuall way. It takes time and is tedious.

 

the second way, is to take a TAWOBA variant, that has already the bodyslides you want and change the ARMA entries for the paths to the .nif files for the female outfits. Additionally, you would need to adjust the slots of the separate parts. I never done anything like that, but theoretikaly you could create a patch, that combines two TAWOBA mods into one. TAWOBAE has a unique filestructure and a different pluggin, so it would not overwrite other TAWOBA mods. You could do this work in XEdit and it would probbably take less time (like i  said, it is theory, i never done anything like this)

 

I see two ways and both ways need a different skillset. Both ways are relatively easy to learn. You can find tutorials for way on the internet. But i think, creating bodyslides takes longer to get better.

 

Could you explain more on the glitches you expirience? Maybe some pictures? Do you use bashed patch or something similliar? I am using ModOrganizer 2. TAWOBAE plugin should be after the bashed patch on the right side of the MO2  window.

 

[Hatoc123]

21 hours ago, monty359 said:

I see two possibilities, how you could get BNUNP Bodyslides for TAWOBAE.

 

first is the most obvious one. Create from CBBE 3BA. It is the usuall way. It takes time and is tedious.

 

the second way, is to take a TAWOBA variant, that has already the bodyslides you want and change the ARMA entries for the paths to the .nif files for the female outfits. Additionally, you would need to adjust the slots of the separate parts. I never done anything like that, but theoretikaly you could create a patch, that combines two TAWOBA mods into one. TAWOBAE has a unique filestructure and a different pluggin, so it would not overwrite other TAWOBA mods. You could do this work in XEdit and it would probbably take less time (like i  said, it is theory, i never done anything like this)

 

I see two ways and both ways need a different skillset. Both ways are relatively easy to learn. You can find tutorials for way on the internet. But i think, creating bodyslides takes longer to get better.

 

Could you explain more on the glitches you expirience? Maybe some pictures? Do you use bashed patch or something similliar? I am using ModOrganizer 2. TAWOBAE plugin should be after the bashed patch on the right side of the MO2  window.

 

Thanks for all that information Monty its a great help as for the gliltches please dont worry about them since those glitches are to do with the mod I created using the automated leveled list addions mod and not your mod related as for how I'm going to end up doing this I dunno but I do have some annual leave coming up so I might be able to learn so stuff then and plop out a bugfest mod lol.

[Varithina]

On 8/15/2022 at 9:48 PM, Hatoc123 said:

Any ideas on how I could tweak your mod so it would only give the male parts out since I doubt my usual techniqe of just deleting some texture files is going to work here since you have a whole esp manging it all.

 

You would need to basically rebuild the entire armor addon and armor section to split it by male and female, though that would not be too hard you would need to duplicate each armor add on, change them so that one is named male, better to change the other to female to make it clear, then delete the paths to the female meshes from it, then you would need to go into that amour section, duplicate that and rename it to male, and delete the various female mesh parts, and finally redo the level lists assigning them correctly, and of course do not forget some of the level lists do not split male and female npc's, they just link to npc's in general, and if you still want to be able to craft them, you would then need to go through and edit the current crafting recipes to make the one gender and then add the other gender ones in, as well as the appropriate tempering recipients where required.  In other words huge amounts of time and effort.

 

Though just what is the problem you have with level lists, as the one included in the mod seems to work fine, it might be well worthwhile loading your entire mod list into xedit, then looking and seeing what if anything is conflicting with this mods level lists, chances are it is the bash/smash patch being and idiot and doing something odd, or what ever way you are using of dealing with conflict resolution between level lists.

[Selena Glazer]

Bikini Armor Quest Integration? or this mod is just a base for TAWOBA?

 

Thanks in advance

[monty359]

3 hours ago, Selena Glazer said:

Bikini Armor Quest Integration? or this mod is just a base for TAWOBA?

 

Thanks in advance

I do not use the quest mod. As i understand, the story is about nise introdusing sexy female armors,  would it be not immersion braking to have male armors too?

I never bothered with it, because of immersion braking and very short quest line. Did it change?

 

Anyway, i will put it on the list.

[Selena Glazer]

1 hour ago, monty359 said:

I do not use the quest mod. As i understand, the story is about nise introdusing sexy female armors,  would it be not immersion braking to have male armors too?

I never bothered with it, because of immersion braking and very short quest line. Did it change?

 

Anyway, i will put it on the list.

hope so, thanks for your great work 

[chris312]

This says there a patch for immersive wenches, does this apply to the buxom wench Yuriana mod? When I build the outfits in bodyslide I use the 3ba ones but they don't seem like there being built. I can't do the normal cbbe because for some reason the body under the armor stay at zero bodyslide while the actual armor around it is built to my specifications.

 

Edit: Also anyone know how to find the armors using additemmenu? Elven or Orc armor doesn't seem to be called elven when I put it in the search.

 

Edited August 22, 2022 by chris312

[monty359]

6 hours ago, chris312 said:

This says there a patch for immersive wenches, does this apply to the buxom wench Yuriana mod?

 

No, I do not use this mod. Is this a follower mod? If so, no patch needed, you can give the follower whatever outfit you like, after recruiting. Sorry, if it is not helping you.

 

6 hours ago, chris312 said:

When I build the outfits in bodyslide I use the 3ba ones but they don't seem like there being built.

Can you give some more details? Maybe pictures in bodyslide, how do you know, they are not built?

 

7 hours ago, chris312 said:

 I can't do the normal cbbe because for some reason the body under the armor stay at zero bodyslide while the actual armor around it is built to my specifications.

 

TAWOBAE meshes contain the body meshes, but they are just for the viewer in the bodyslide, They are not used in game. If you want to use normal CBBE, you need to buid the Normal CBBE body too. TAWOBAE mod provides only outfit parts in game, no bodies.

 

 

[chris312]

21 hours ago, monty359 said:

No, I do not use this mod. Is this a follower mod? If so, no patch needed, you can give the follower whatever outfit you like, after recruiting. Sorry, if it is not helping you.

 

Can you give some more details? Maybe pictures in bodyslide, how do you know, they are not built?

 

 

TAWOBAE meshes contain the body meshes, but they are just for the viewer in the bodyslide, They are not used in game. If you want to use normal CBBE, you need to buid the Normal CBBE body too. TAWOBAE mod provides only outfit parts in game, no bodies.

 

 

So here is what i'm talking about the first image shows that I'm trying to build them to the 3ba bodyslide. I pressed build and exepect that to show up in game. And then the second image shows the one that is not the 3ba cbbe. I didn't press build for that since of course am trying to have the 3ba body and that this bodyslide isn't working right anyway. and the third and forth image shows what i'm looking at in game. My bodyslide that I wanted isn't being applied

[safado]

22 hours ago, chris312 said:

 

 

Edit: Also anyone know how to find the armors using additemmenu? Elven or Orc armor doesn't seem to be called elven when I put it in the search.

 

 

Orcish and Elven.    You can also name completely or partially the plug-in listing the assets in the search, "theamazingworldofbikiniarmorextended".

 

 

 

 

[safado]

1 hour ago, chris312 said:

 

 

 

 

 

That discrepancy between the body and armor means that you do not have the 3BA v2.XX bodyslide morph reference files that  TAWOBA-EXT needs. 

I think you are using older 3BA version 1.x.  Version 2.x also include version 1.x bodyslide references for compatibility with legacy 3BA.

 

 

The armor assets fail to morph when you build them without the main 3BAv2 references installed.  The body you use morph but not the armors, they are calling to different morph files.  Because 3BAv2 also ha 3BAv1 sliders the armor will morph those old morphs in Bodyslide but will fail to properly generate a valid morph for the game.

 

Install latest 3BAv2 to fix your issue, hopefully.

 

I do not use exagerated presets, but I created this to show result with proper TAWOBa-EXT and requirements.

Spoiler

 

 

List of changes from version 1 to version 2.   Newer 2.43 has more changes. Each mention of a slider means a new file reference.

Spoiler

• Add new sliders (48)
  [ Vagina and Anal ]
  - More Puffyness
  - Labia Clumpled
  - Labia Bulgogi
  - Neat
  - Clit Swell
  - Anal Loose
  - Anal Back
  - Anal Texture
  - Anal Texture Re
  [ Nipples ]
  - Thicc
  - More Puffy
  - Shy
  - Crease
  - Invert
  - SquashX
  - SquashY
  - Tube
  - Bump
  - Crumpled
  - Areola Pull
  [ Butt ]
  - Saggy
  - Pressed
  - Narrow
  [ Breasts ]
  - Pressed
  - Converage
  [Torso ]
  - Back Vally
  - Back Wing
  - Clavicle
  - Protruded Ribs
  [ Legs and Feet ]
  - Outside
  - Inside
  - 7B Legs
  - FrontBack
  - Calf FrontBack
  - Knee Together
  - Leg Spread
  [ Muscle Definition ]
  - Back
  - More Abs
  - More Arms
  - More Legs
  [ Hips ]
  - UNP Hip
  - Hip Narrow
  [ Arms ]
  - Armpit
  [ Belly ]
  - Front Up Fat
  - Side Up Fat
  - Front Down Fat
  - Side Down Fat
  - Under
• Overall improved body mesh
  - Increased polys in Breasts and Nipples
  - Remeshed vagina and anus
  - Repainted vagina and anus bone weights
  - Improves overall edge flow
  - Optimize polys of invisible mesh(inside vagina, anus)
  - Remove 34, 38 partitions (only use 32)
  - Improved some uv map
  body mesh is edited so change use file and object names (The old version files are still remain for compatibility)
• Slightly edited Legs, Butt of SMP physics
• Improved CBPC vagina collision
• Remove old cbbe racemenu morph option in Fomod
• Add multiple types of references
• SMP and CBPC (Full) option was changed to SMP and CBPC (Heavy) option
  and added Full SMP (include belly physics) option
• Improved collision meshes

 

 

Important: If you decide to upgrade to 3BAv2 you also need to upgrade CBPC and XPMSSE to the latest version.  3BAv2 tracks and uses new features in those require mods.

It is necessary that 3BAv2 overwrite CBPC parameter files. Do not recommend using custom CBPC files from the community.

 

 

Edited August 23, 2022 by safado

[chris312]

oooooohhhhhh i think i found the answer! The buxom wench yuriana mod uses it own version of tawobe thats why when i go in game its not my build. I just picked up what i could find with the additem menu.

[monty359]

8 hours ago, chris312 said:

So here is what i'm talking about the first image shows that I'm trying to build them to the 3ba bodyslide. I pressed build and exepect that to show up in game. And then the second image shows the one that is not the 3ba cbbe. I didn't press build for that since of course am trying to have the 3ba body and that this bodyslide isn't working right anyway. and the third and forth image shows what i'm looking at in game. My bodyslide that I wanted isn't being applied

 

The answer of Safado should help you. It is the only thing i can think of. @safado Thanks for your detailed explanation!

[Jeffmanns]

is there a way to use https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/41585?tab=description (t.a.w.o.b.a. extended) with this mod without having to download tawoba remastered (and running 2 mods that pretty much do the same thing) ?

[monty359]

On 9/3/2022 at 2:27 PM, Jeffmanns said:

is there a way to use https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/41585?tab=description (t.a.w.o.b.a. extended) with this mod without having to download tawoba remastered (and running 2 mods that pretty much do the same thing) ?

i am not sure, what you want to do. f you want to use TAWOBAE with one of the other two mods, you mention (TEWOBA or TAWOBA Remastered), you will have to download both mods and install them.

 

If you want to use TAWOBAE plus one of the other two mods together, but without doubled outfits, you will have to create either a patch, that combines the two mods into one or create an entirely new mod (.esp file), that is using assets from both mods. Both tasks are possible to acheave, but will needs knowledge and time.

 

 

[Reaper121]

Is there a version of this for Oldrim? I tracked down the offsite one of Nise's, but the book graphics are totally broken, high-def or vanilla, so I'd have to console add the books, and leave the weird graphics where they stand, just looking goofy.

[monty359]

1 hour ago, Reaper121 said:

Is there a version of this for Oldrim? I tracked down the offsite one of Nise's, but the book graphics are totally broken, high-def or vanilla, so I'd have to console add the books, and leave the weird graphics where they stand, just looking goofy.

no, there is no version of this mod for LE.

[NigDickRick]

Wondering if there's been any update on a way to use the male bottoms for a female futa character? Is there some way I can manipulate the files?

[monty359]

4 hours ago, NigDickRick said:

Wondering if there's been any update on a way to use the male bottoms for a female futa character? Is there some way I can manipulate the files?

No, unfortunatelly not yet, it is on the list. I have now less time for modding, and the time i have, i use to get better with blender and create the missing outfits.

 

You can manipulate the files: the nif files with bodyslide (fit male items to female body and conform sliders).

With creation kit the esp. Here you need to copy the panty itrems for each outfit and link the female to the correct files. Additionally you would have to copy and change the smithing files. If you know, how it works, it is easy, but takes time.

 

 

[NigDickRick]

4 hours ago, monty359 said:

No, unfortunatelly not yet, it is on the list. I have now less time for modding, and the time i have, i use to get better with blender and create the missing outfits.

 

You can manipulate the files: the nif files with bodyslide (fit male items to female body and conform sliders).

With creation kit the esp. Here you need to copy the panty itrems for each outfit and link the female to the correct files. Additionally you would have to copy and change the smithing files. If you know, how it works, it is easy, but takes time.

 

 

No unfortunately I'm not sure how to do all that, glad to hear it's on the list, I'll wait until the release, great work on everything regardless

[monty359]

5 hours ago, NigDickRick said:

No unfortunately I'm not sure how to do all that, glad to hear it's on the list, I'll wait until the release, great work on everything regardless

What is the most used setup for the gameplay with futa?

What schlong should i use for 3ba body?

How is the "gender" futa handled by the game/sexlab?

[alster523]

Is there a good mod to use that makes the unenchantable parts of the bikini's enchantable?

[monty359]

28 minutes ago, alster523 said:

Is there a good mod to use that makes the unenchantable parts of the bikini's enchantable?

In TAWOBAE all parts should be enchantable. Let me know If you find a part, that is not.

[ScaleSwimer]

On 7/30/2022 at 6:31 AM, DumCumpster said:

@monty359 I decided to finally move on from LE and go to SE.

 

I updated the removal of leveled lists

here is the link, the link you're currently using has been deleted and likely won't go anywhere.

 

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1B-Kgd5eCTxEsSyDP2WXi1qYbj3aYtBk-/view?usp=sharing

 

 

Thank you you amazing person I have been waiting for this gift thank you.

[ScaleSwimer]

SO when I use this mod on males with himbo there is some clipping around the gentiles. IS there a way around this? In bodyslide it looks great but in game it just clips through. Also it just hit me cant this be used with the original mod at all? Would it break anything?


Edit: The ass clips through with physics enabled. Damn

 

Edited September 25, 2022 by ScaleSwimer