Submissive Lola: The Resubmission LE/SE

[popo44]

perhaps its not all working, it says there are no spanking animations but the animation loader in mcm show i have 2

 

[Hex Bolt]

20 minutes ago, popo44 said:

is there supposed to be texxt I can read when mistress is speaking? the dialogue is blank.

You need "Fuz Ro D-oh" from Nexus.  Be sure to get the right version for your game version, or it won't work.

 

6 minutes ago, popo44 said:

it says there are no spanking animations but the animation loader in mcm show i have 2

They must have the "Spank" or "Spanking" tag.  You also must register them in SL Animation Loader, and check that they are enabled in SexLab.  If they all use furniture, such as a chair, the "Spanking with furniture" setting on this mod's MCM System page should be Anywhere.

[Hex Bolt]

On 2/6/2022 at 3:02 AM, agukiin51 said:

I was wondering if you mind if I translate your mod into Spanish?

I'm sorry, I saw your question yesterday, but I forgot to respond.  Yes, you are welcome to translate the mod into Spanish (or any other language).

[popo44]

Working....thanks

 

[Hex Bolt]

I think I found the cause and a remedy for that problem when you're supposed to dance but you just stand there.

 

If happens if you click through the speaker's dialog rather than letting it finish.  Skyrim seems to freak out if a script dares to play a sound (dance music) while someone is speaking.  I have a remedy (it least it works in my game) for the next update.  Until then, you can either let the speaker finish without clicking through or, if your character just stands there, open the game menu or the console and close it to make Skyrim snap out of it.

[u7ndertow]

Unfortunately I still can't get aggressive animations to reliably trigger with my mistress. (Femdom relationship my character is male, owner is female)

 

Even if I set:

Chance owner is rough at 0 to 100%

And

Chance owner is rough at 100 to 100%

 

My character is at 100 submission in my game so I would think it would be 100% aggressive animations at this point.

 

I'm actually kind of confused on the settings. So via the MCM we only set if owner is rough if submission level is 0, or if submission level is 100? Why not have a setting for 1 to 99? Are aggressive animations filtered out in that range by default? What about if your submission level is negative? (I thought I got a negative level once for not following orders).

 

All the non-aggressive lovey dovey animations take me out of the sex slave mindset and puts me as more of a lover.

[Hex Bolt]

18 minutes ago, u7ndertow said:

I'm actually kind of confused on the settings. So via the MCM we only set if owner is rough if submission level is 0, or if submission level is 100? Why not have a setting for 1 to 99?

Draw a straight line between the beginning and end points and interpolate.  If the chance at 0 is 50 and 100 at 100, then at 50 it's 75.

 

19 minutes ago, u7ndertow said:

What about if your submission level is negative?

Always rough.

 

20 minutes ago, u7ndertow said:

Unfortunately I still can't get aggressive animations to reliably trigger with my mistress. (Femdom relationship my character is male, owner is female)

You won't get any for oral, because the tags for that in your case are "Cunnilingus" and "Hands".  SexLab doesn't support mixing "and" with "or" tag lookups, so it can't combine this with requiring "Aggressive".  Beyond that, there are few rough cunnilingus animations (I don't think I have any), at least none that don't involve furniture or bindings, which are excluded.  And any rough "Hands" animation would probably have you aggressively fisting your owner.

 

However, you shouldn't have any trouble with rough anal animations.  They just need the "Anal" and "Aggressive" tags (and not involve furniture or bindings).  Unfortunately, there's no uniformity among animation tags, so some use "Rough", "Forced", "Rape", or some mix of these.  If you're lacking in anal animations tagged as "Aggressive", a tag editor like SLATE can help you add Aggressive where you need it.

[u7ndertow]

So, are you saying that even if I have chance at 0 set to 100%, and chance at 100 set to 100% it can still trigger non-aggressive animations because sometimes it selects oral instead of anal?

 

If I have "owner likes anal" at 100%, can it still select oral?

[Goratrix666]

I have a small problem. Lola has been ordered to be nude than she has been ordered to do a S.L.U.T.S. (Redux) job. Now the S.L.U.T.S. Outfit interferes with the being nude rule. How do I fix that?

[Hex Bolt]

2 hours ago, u7ndertow said:

So, are you saying that even if I have chance at 0 set to 100%, and chance at 100 set to 100% it can still trigger non-aggressive animations because sometimes it selects oral instead of anal?

 

If I have "owner likes anal" at 100%, can it still select oral?

Yes and yes.

 

2 hours ago, Goratrix666 said:

Lola has been ordered to be nude than she has been ordered to do a S.L.U.T.S. (Redux) job. Now the S.L.U.T.S. Outfit interferes with the being nude rule.

The thermal harness has clothing keywords, so it's treated as clothing.  If the problem is the "Required Nudity" rule, you can set the thermal harness to be your nude outfit by using "Nudity alternative" on the MCM Rules page.

[Goratrix666]

Thank you

[qalavix]

On 2/5/2022 at 8:09 PM, HexBolt8 said:

This is turning out to be a good bit of work for something that looks simple on the surface. ?

Or, to put it in simpler terms, "This is programming."  ?

[Hex Bolt]

1 hour ago, qalavix said:

Or, to put it in simpler terms, "This is programming."  ?

I have had a few features turn out to just as simple as I thought they'd be.  A few.  My two main enemies are that "devil in the details", and his friend who whispers sweetly in my ear, "Wouldn't it be great if...".

 

When starting work on an event, I write out a description, including dialog, of how it should work.  This one for spending the owner's gold turned out to be 115 lines.  The work is done and it's testing out well now, but what a lot of work!  However, a few benefits came from this:

 

I noticed that using a different quest type will suppress the fanfare that quests typically start and end with.  All that dum-duh-duh-dum business didn't fit here.  I went back and changed the sweeping and cooking events to remove the fanfare, too.  Simple domestic tasks don't need all that.

 

I figured out how to apply a discount to skill training.  That could be useful for something else.

 

Because Skyrim has a child vendor-trainer, I had to expand player dancing so it wouldn't always end with sex.  This will be useful for future features, such as possibly dancing for the jarl without having sex in the throne room (or having to make out with Idgrod Ravencrone).  Oh, and we can't have a child cheering "This is making me want to fuck you!", so the target of player dancing can now be made to skip the comments and simply clap while the owner watches quietly, refraining from the owner's typical lewd remarks.

 

I think I finally have a good handle now on preventing NPCs from wandering off, particularly with NFF making the owner sandbox when he/she should be watching you entertain someone.  The scene now plays out like this:

 

Lola approaches a merchant, who's sitting in a chair.  Lola offers to dance for him, after which he can do as he pleases with her.  Lola starts dancing.  The merchant stands up and faces her.  Okay, he's standing on the chair, but he's paying attention.  Maybe he likes the view.  The owner, who had sandboxed off to a corner, runs over to watch.  The merchant cheers and makes lewd comments.  Afterwards, sex ensues.  The owner stays to watch instead of wandering away.  Lola reports her success, and the owner gives her the gold to spend.  Now the merchant has walked away, but that's okay, he didn't get far.  Lola approaches to do business, and the owner follows and stays there, simulating helping with the barter.  When the business concludes, the owner is free to sandbox again.  Simple.  ?

Edited February 9, 2022 by HexBolt8

[u7ndertow]

If you have 'owner likes anal' set to 100%, but it still selects oral, isn't that a bug? Would it be possible to modify this?

 

Or am I just misunderstanding the purpose of the setting.

[Hex Bolt]

3 minutes ago, u7ndertow said:

If you have 'owner likes anal' set to 100%, but it still selects oral, isn't that a bug? Would it be possible to modify this?

Or am I just misunderstanding the purpose of the setting.

Misunderstanding the purpose.  It sets the chance for anal sex when the mod selects vaginal.  As a male sub, it's the chance the female domme will choose to give you anal sex rather than receiving vaginal sex from you.

[agukiin51]

Greetings, I have a little problem, nothing serious but a little annoying. When I ask for a spanking, he tells me to download a package of animations so he doesn't replace them with sex. The punishment with the whip works well, it's only when I ask for the spanking. I have downloaded cobalt animations, since I have not found others but these do not work, any idea where to find them?, I would really appreciate it, thank you very much!!

Edited February 10, 2022 by agukiin51

[Amatum]

1 hour ago, agukiin51 said:

Greetings, I have a little problem, nothing serious but a little annoying. When I ask for a spanking, he tells me to download a package of animations so he doesn't replace them with sex. The punishment with the whip works well, it's only when I ask for the spanking. I have downloaded cobalt animations, since I have not found others but these do not work, any idea where to find them?, I would really appreciate it, thank you very much!!

 

I think Sir Nibbles has a spanking animation -

 

Also, make sure you are registering the newly added animations in Sexlab - just in case you forgot or didn't know to.

Edited February 10, 2022 by mattardo

[qalavix]

19 hours ago, HexBolt8 said:

I have had a few features turn out to just as simple as I thought they'd be.  A few. 

 

That's just a trick, to lure you into trying again.  Like a computer store advertising a $100 RTX3090 but aw, they're all sold out but you can buy this almost-as-good GTX680 for only $109.99!

 

 

19 hours ago, HexBolt8 said:

My two main enemies are that "devil in the details", and his friend who whispers sweetly in my ear, "Wouldn't it be great if...".

 

Though, to be serious for just a moment, if you didn't have a fair amount of the second, you'd be downloading and installing mods (at best) or just playing vanilla new games, instead of writing mods.

It's the first that makes me want All My Cool People(TM) and me (because I am not cool) to be rich enough to hire servants or build robot assistants.

 

19 hours ago, HexBolt8 said:

The scene now plays out like this:

 

Lola approaches a merchant, who's sitting in a chair.  Lola offers to dance for him, after which he can do as he pleases with her.  Lola starts dancing.  The merchant stands up and faces her.  Okay, he's standing on the chair, but he's paying attention.  Maybe he likes the view.  The owner, who had sandboxed off to a corner, runs over to watch.  The merchant cheers and makes lewd comments.  Afterwards, sex ensues.  The owner stays to watch instead of wandering away.  Lola reports her success, and the owner gives her the gold to spend.  Now the merchant has walked away, but that's okay, he didn't get far.  Lola approaches to do business, and the owner follows and stays there, simulating helping with the barter.  When the business concludes, the owner is free to sandbox again.  Simple.  ?

Awe

some

!

(I wish we could figure out how to keep them from standing on chairs... or on other people having sex, for that matter - but that might have to wait for TES 7)

[Hex Bolt]

4 hours ago, agukiin51 said:

I have downloaded cobalt animations, since I have not found others but these do not work, any idea where to find them?

Cobalt animations have some great ideas, but my impression is that they're in a beta or "work in progress" stage.  I recommend the overlap spanking animation from Rydin's animations (LE and SE).  It's a small pack, so it won't increase your animation count by much.

[Talesien]

52 minutes ago, qalavix said:

(I wish we could figure out how to keep them from standing on chairs... or on other people having sex, for that matter - but that might have to wait for TES 7)

Chairs and such, no idea, but Nymra managed to include a 'protection' into the whipping scene from Naked Defeat that prevents other NPC's from intruding. Not 100% certain how he did it (he might simply create an invisible wall around the scene, that would explain the 3rd person camera problems that can happen). I suppose it would be possible to apply that SL Scenes as well, but that would require patching SL (perhaps a worth addition for Sexlab Utility plus).
Coming to think of it there may be some SLTRS scenes that could also benefit from this functionality. Like the shoe cleaning, whipping, etc.

[qalavix]

10 minutes ago, Talesien said:

Coming to think of it there may be some SLTRS scenes that could also benefit from this functionality. Like the shoe cleaning, whipping, etc.

@Talesien there's a LOT that could benefit.

 

Hell, check this screenshot out:

Spoiler

 It was even funnier (in a certain "Argh!  SKYRIM!!" sort of way) seeing the brownrobe going up and down as Danica's hands did.

But I'm really really tired of having sex someplace, and having someone casually walk on top and then just stand there... often looking down like, "Oh, how curious is the copulation I am standing upon."

Uh, @HexBolt8, that isn't a bitch at you, or a mod-feature-request, or anything... just venting.

[Hex Bolt]

Regarding the "Owner prefers anal" MCM setting, I've clarified the info text for the next update:  "The chance that a dom will choose anal sex over vaginal sex (or pegging over receiving vaginal sex in a femdom relationship).  Does not affect gay dom/sub relationships.  Some scenes will still require a certain sex type, so 0% does not mean never and 100% does not mean always."

 

The next update will have a new setting, "Owner prefers oral".  Currently, it's fixed at 33%.  The same caveat applies, that 0% does not mean never and 100% does not mean always.

 

These are just the chance for a sex type when a scene doesn't specifically require a type.   Scenes with a set type usually occur when the owner's arousal gets high and the owner demands sex.  Players can avoid that by keeping the owner sexually satisfied.  When you offer sex to the owner, there's no type specified in the conversation, so the MCM settings are used. 

[u7ndertow]

2 hours ago, HexBolt8 said:

The next update will have a new setting, "Owner prefers oral".  Currently, it's fixed at 33%.  The same caveat applies, that 0% does not mean never and 100% does not mean always.

 

Awesome. Thanks!

 

2 hours ago, HexBolt8 said:

Scenes with a set type usually occur when the owner's arousal gets high and the owner demands sex. 

 

I guess that makes sense. These are SubLola scenes though right? When I get a scene with dialogue like "Put your tongue to good use instead of always complaining" it would make sense if that is always oral (regardless of MCM settings). I'm not sure how many variants of "owner demands sex" there are but I think I pretty much always get the "put your tongue to good use" one.

 

Just a random question- I've been looking for an excuse to get into modding. if I wanted to play around with the script that aggregates tags and calls the Sexlab libraries for generic sex/owner sex, does that require compiling the changes into pex files, or will Skyrim recognize the edited script without needing to be compiled again?

[Hex Bolt]

38 minutes ago, u7ndertow said:

These are SubLola scenes though right?

Yes.  The settings only apply to sex initiated by this mod, and only between the PC and the owner.

 

40 minutes ago, u7ndertow said:

... will Skyrim recognize the edited script without needing to be compiled again?

No, you have to compile the script that you changed.

[Ragatokk]

This mod seems nice, but what mods would you recommend it to be used with?
It seems like it would be a bit weird with devious followers, but the information mentions compatibility with it.