Simple Slavery Plus Plus

[Bdsmfurfaggot]

7 hours ago, Hex Bolt said:

I can't speak for other mods, but SS++ does not require any particular version of Skyrim.  No patches needed, and the only thing it requires is ZAP (which no requirements of its own) and Fuz Ro -D-oh (only for dialog text).  It sounds like a lot of your installation is messed up, which might have taken out ZAP, which would take down SS++ (unless you opted for the No ZAP version).  If you're on an older version of SE, you might need the BEES mod.  I suggest starting with a basic mod list, verify that it works, then add blocks of your mods back until you notice problems.

 

More general messed-upness.  You could ask in Practical Defeat's support topic, but if you're having this much trouble, starting simple then gradually building up to uncover the source of your woes will likely cause the other weird problems to disappear when you get that resolved.  In other words, don't chase symptoms, find the root problem.  It might just be one thing.

Yeeeeah... kinda tried all of these and then some other things too. I appreciate your help tho, I think i'm gonna try some other mods like naked defeat, because I think it's ponzi's stuff that's breaking things. 

[Bdsmfurfaggot]

12 hours ago, Bdsmfurfaggot said:

Yeeeeah... kinda tried all of these and then some other things too. I appreciate your help tho, I think i'm gonna try some other mods like naked defeat, because I think it's ponzi's stuff that's breaking things. 

Yeah it's absolutely Ponzi's mods. Switching to naked defeat was the right call.

[tcswadam]

Sorry to bother you, I really like your modification of this mod, can I make a personal suggestion? I've seen the same scene so many times that I'm tired of the auction process, no matter how wonderful it is. Can you create a simple version? Just skip the auction and keep only the results can make the PC be sure to be sent to other enslavement mods.

[Krashark]

Has anyone figured if SS++ works with Devious Followers Redux from Ponzi dump? After the auction, my character simply stands still, can walk freely around the run and nothing else happens, despite the console saying that the outcome was DF.

 

(I'm posting this also in Ponzi's dump thread because idk where is the source of the problem).

[Bdsmfurfaggot]

1 hour ago, Vaccinated Alligator said:

Has anyone figured if SS++ works with Devious Followers Redux from Ponzi dump? After the auction, my character simply stands still, can walk freely around the run and nothing else happens, despite the console saying that the outcome was DF.

 

(I'm posting this also in Ponzi's dump thread because idk where is the source of the problem).

I have tried, I've fiddled around with all of ponzi's stuff, it used to work, last year, but nowadays it just does not work. I could not get to work, I could not get to work in the same way that I used to get it to work. Unfortunately, I think you're just going to have to go with a different mod. I got naked defeat to work in its place. 

[Nethertale]

I've got CTD issue on game launch with so many of these sub mods

 

Radiant Prostitution

Public Whore

Ravenous

Pama Deadly Furniture

Submissive Lola

Dark Arena

SLUTS

Slaverun

SD+

Slaves of Tamriel

 

Even as if I use them alone, it causes CTD after the game launch, I've got their requirements, and playing on 1.6.1179 GOG.

And yes I've searched to find the SE versions too, these are SE ones...

 

For further explanation My heavy modlist of 480-490 mods is more or less stable, unless I add any of the mods mentioned above

[Hex Bolt]

3 hours ago, tcswadam said:

Sorry to bother you, I really like your modification of this mod, can I make a personal suggestion? I've seen the same scene so many times that I'm tired of the auction process, no matter how wonderful it is. Can you create a simple version? Just skip the auction and keep only the results can make the PC be sure to be sent to other enslavement mods.

If you haven't used it recently, the mod now has a feature to avoid repetition, so the same auction scene will never be chosen twice in a row.  Other than that, you could manually set the SSLV_Timeout variable in the console to something smaller than the default value (the units are seconds).  Its purpose is to stop stuck scenes (probably no longer needed, but it's a safety feature), but one could use it to limit the length of scenes.

 

3 hours ago, Vaccinated Alligator said:

Has anyone figured if SS++ works with Devious Followers Redux from Ponzi dump?

Based on the other player's comments, and that there haven't been any reports of problems with Devious Follower Continued, it sounds like a problem with that mod.  Simple Slavery sends the enslavement event, but the other mod is responsible for responding to it.  If that one isn't working, you might consider Devious Followers - Continued SE.

 

54 minutes ago, Nethertale said:

I've got CTD issue on game launch with so many of these sub mods

I'm sorry to hear that you're having trouble, but I'm not the author of most of those mods, and from your description the crash does not seem to be related to Simple Slavery, so I'm not in a position to provide technical support.  You could try posting your crash log in the Skyrim Technical Support section, or try removing all but one of the mods that you listed that cause a startup crash and post the crash log in that mod's support topic to see if the author can make any sense of it.

Edited December 20, 2024 by Hex Bolt

[Bdsmfurfaggot]

4 hours ago, Nethertale said:

I've got CTD issue on game launch with so many of these sub mods

 

Radiant Prostitution

Public Whore

Ravenous

Pama Deadly Furniture

Submissive Lola

Dark Arena

SLUTS

Slaverun

SD+

Slaves of Tamriel

 

Even as if I use them alone, it causes CTD after the game launch, I've got their requirements, and playing on 1.6.1179 GOG.

And yes I've searched to find the SE versions too, these are SE ones...

 

For further explanation My heavy modlist of 480-490 mods is more or less stable, unless I add any of the mods mentioned above

Radient prostitution is difficult to install, can be made easier with vortex and downloading it via nexsus

 

public whore does work, make sure you have the file installed, not the patch, I currently have it installed and fully functional.

 

pama deadly fruniture is broken right now

 

submissive lola needs an update

 

Dark arena is broken and abandoned, and can actually break other mods, same for slave run

 

SLUTS, I'm not sure what's going on yet, I'm having the same issue, but I know it's not simple slavery plus plus, it's gotta be something else, I'll keep you poste if I find a fix.

 

SD+ is broken and abandoned, you can try deviousdevicesNG instead, but warning, THAT'S A LOT OF WORK.

 

Slaves of tamerial is honestly not worth your time. It's always breaking and having issues, even if you get it working, in a week it won't be, I wanted that one t work so bad. Naked defeat does similar things to slaves of tammerial, give that a shot. 

 

Disclaimer; I am NOT a mod author, nor anyone of any actual authority on the subject, i'm just a mod user who has a tiny amount of experience, but I'm down to try and help.

[Seeker999]

@Hex Bolt, I've been using SS++ a long time and have a small suggestion. When I talk to the slave master, no matter what other dialog option I start with, I always have to go to "Why am I here?" for the auction to start. If I say, "Not again" then it doesn't make sense to hear his response and then say "Why am I here?" before he says "You're up..." I'm paraphrasing since I don't remember the exact dialogs, apologies.

Is there a way, if not using the "Why am I here?" option, to bypass it?

Other dialog starter --> appropriate response(s) --> skip to 'you're up...' --> "I...".

I think the flow would feel more natural. If it doesn't happen, that's fine. It's just a thought and I appreciate you taking the time to listen to all of us. 🙂 Thank you.

[Hex Bolt]

48 minutes ago, Bdsmfurfaggot said:

submissive lola needs an update

It does?  Can you elaborate?

 

49 minutes ago, Bdsmfurfaggot said:

SD+ is broken and abandoned

Although it hasn't received an update for nearly 3 years, the author stated as recently as October that he is working on it.

Edited December 20, 2024 by Hex Bolt

[Hex Bolt]

2 minutes ago, Seeker999 said:

I've been using SS++ a long time and have a small suggestion.

Okay, I'm working on Simple Slavery now, so I can take a look at this.

[Bdsmfurfaggot]

8 minutes ago, Hex Bolt said:

It does?  Can you elaborate?

Clipping issues and sometimes it feels like a crapshoot if it'll install correctly, although that might be more of a vortex issue

 

[Bdsmfurfaggot]

Just now, Bdsmfurfaggot said:

Clipping issues and sometimes it feels like a crapshoot if it'll install correctly, although that might be more of a vortex issue

 

actually nevermind, I haven't tried your resubmission version.

 

[Hex Bolt]

12 minutes ago, Bdsmfurfaggot said:

actually nevermind, I haven't tried your resubmission version.

Okay.  I'm actually going to remove the link now on the Simple Slavery mod page to the original 2015 version.  I try hard not to give the impression that I'm promoting my own content, but linking to a version that old is just going to cause confusion at this point (it is credited and linked to in The Resubmission, with gratitude to the original author).  

[Bdsmfurfaggot]

12 minutes ago, Hex Bolt said:

Okay.  I'm actually going to remove the link now on the Simple Slavery mod page to the original 2015 version.  I try hard not to give the impression that I'm promoting my own content, but linking to a version that old is just going to cause confusion at this point (it is credited and linked to in The Resubmission, with gratitude to the original author).  

I would, mention the original, but linked to yours. I don't think it's disrespectful at all, to link to your version of said mod, if it's more up-to-date and is actually working. I think the only disrespectful thing you could possibly do, is if you acted like the original didn't exist. Generally speaking, out of all the mod authors I've interacted with, you're probably my favorite, because generally speaking you're a very respectful person, and you're willing to help and work things out with people. Which is a big deal.

 

[Hex Bolt]

Fair Warning

 

I am planning to disable the obscure option on the System page of the MCM, "Rescan for mod auctions".  It's the one that tells you, "If you don't know what this is, ignore this option."

 

Enhancements that I have made for the next update have surely broken it.  I'm thinking that no one uses it anymore (I had only added it as a special request).  If you do use it and want it to remain, I need you to please work with me to get it working again.

[Hex Bolt]

On 11/26/2024 at 5:56 PM, Zaflis said:

Would it be possible to change the MCM page about supported mods events, so it would not be a checkbox but a slider of chance it can occur?

Preview for the next update (not expected until after New Years).

 

[Herowynne]

42 minutes ago, Hex Bolt said:

Preview for the next update (not expected until after New Years).

 

What do the numbers signify? Are they a percent chance out of 100% or are they weights relative to each other?

[Hex Bolt]

21 minutes ago, Herowynne said:

What do the numbers signify? Are they a percent chance out of 100% or are they weights relative to each other?

Relative weights, 0 to 10.  I avoided any resemblance to percentages because that tends to confuse people ("Do I have to make them add up to 100?").

 

Upcoming feature description (which I probably should have included in the preview):  "The checkboxes to enable installed enslavement mods as auction outcomes are now sliders with relative weightings.  You can select a weighted chance from 0 to 10 (zero deactivates that outcome).  Using just zeroes or ones would be equivalent to the way that checkboxes worked."

Edited December 21, 2024 by Hex Bolt

[Hex Bolt]

8 hours ago, Seeker999 said:

I've been using SS++ a long time and have a small suggestion. When I talk to the slave master, no matter what other dialog option I start with, I always have to go to "Why am I here?" for the auction to start. If I say, "Not again" then it doesn't make sense to hear his response and then say "Why am I here?" before he says "You're up..." I'm paraphrasing since I don't remember the exact dialogs, apologies.

Is there a way, if not using the "Why am I here?" option, to bypass it?

Other dialog starter --> appropriate response(s) --> skip to 'you're up...' --> "I...".

I think the flow would feel more natural. If it doesn't happen, that's fine. It's just a thought and I appreciate you taking the time to listen to all of us. 🙂 Thank you.

All right, I had a chance to look at this.  Have you had the opportunity to use the most recent version?  I reorganized the dialog a bit in recent releases.

 

"Why am I here?" is replaced with "Oh no, not again" (or the like) on subsequent enslavements.  They're mutually exclusive.  Either way, that topic is optional.  Skip it if you prefer.

 

The one that starts the auction is "When do I get out of here?  [Start auction]".  That seems like a reasonable question even for repeat visits (how can you know when the next auction is scheduled?), and it's consistent and unambiguous that this choice will start the auction if you're ready to go.  After a quick one-line reply from the slavemaster, you have a choice of six responses, from scornful to excited, an opportunity to roleplay a changing attitude as you gain experience with being in this situation.

 

I think the way it is in the current version works pretty well.  I'm open to suggestions, but maybe give it a try again and see if it doesn't actually flow fairly well.

[Nethertale]

21 hours ago, Bdsmfurfaggot said:

Radient prostitution is difficult to install, can be made easier with vortex and downloading it via nexsus

 

public whore does work, make sure you have the file installed, not the patch, I currently have it installed and fully functional.

 

pama deadly fruniture is broken right now

 

submissive lola needs an update

 

Dark arena is broken and abandoned, and can actually break other mods, same for slave run

 

SLUTS, I'm not sure what's going on yet, I'm having the same issue, but I know it's not simple slavery plus plus, it's gotta be something else, I'll keep you poste if I find a fix.

 

SD+ is broken and abandoned, you can try deviousdevicesNG instead, but warning, THAT'S A LOT OF WORK.

 

Slaves of tamerial is honestly not worth your time. It's always breaking and having issues, even if you get it working, in a week it won't be, I wanted that one t work so bad. Naked defeat does similar things to slaves of tammerial, give that a shot. 

 

Disclaimer; I am NOT a mod author, nor anyone of any actual authority on the subject, i'm just a mod user who has a tiny amount of experience, but I'm down to try and help.

So what you say is a lot of SS++ mods aren't working, so do you know any other mods which aren't in SS++ Slavery mcm modlist but can work with them?

Also thx for your response

[jfraser]

1 hour ago, Nethertale said:

So what you say is a lot of SS++ mods aren't working, so do you know any other mods which aren't in SS++ Slavery mcm modlist but can work with them?

Also thx for your response

Mods have to be connected to SS - there are not any that are not in the SS menu that would be able to connect. Assuming you mean as outcomes from the auction. 
 

 

 

[Bdsmfurfaggot]

4 hours ago, Nethertale said:

So what you say is a lot of SS++ mods aren't working, so do you know any other mods which aren't in SS++ Slavery mcm modlist but can work with them?

Also thx for your response

Unfortunately dude, it's not The simple slavery Plus Plus fault, it's just other modders have not really updated their stuff or have been as diligent. The Skyrim community of modders is kind of dying out, and that has a lot more to do of course with some of the hostility, and gatekeeping that this community has. This kind of threads where people actually try to help each other out, are extremely rare

[Seeker999]

On 12/21/2024 at 2:18 AM, Hex Bolt said:

I think the way it is in the current version works pretty well.  I'm open to suggestions, but maybe give it a try again and see if it doesn't actually flow fairly well.

I am so sorry to have bothered you. I've been playing this run for so long (started Jan. 2024) that I didn't realize I hadn't updated from 6.3.21. Next time I'll try and remember to double-check the version number and changelog before posting. 🤦‍♀️ I look forward to the new dialog. Thank you.

[damarok]

Hello. Is there any not strictly "defeat" mod that could still send me to SS+ repeatedly? I prefer to avoid defeat mods as they are usually quite heavy and tend to be a buggy mess in my experience.